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  • next week see the ferocious cells take on....VIRUSES!

  • if he dies ur to blame killer and ur an inscore bully

  • What an idiotic comparison. Are you in kindergarden? If no, kill yourself.

  • Oh shit, the extremely sped-up video showed faster growth than the semi-sped up video? Wow!

  • nice!

  • 50$ on the bacteria!

  • $20 on the cells!

  • I thought I was gonna see cells and bacteria squaring off against other, not another biology class :(

  • How did i get here from Team fortress 2?

  • u took 2 cool video from youtube and spam

  • "5 thousand BILLION BILLION". :O

  • there's no such number as five thousand billion billion I think what they're talking about is 5 sextillion or 3x10 the the 21st

  • bacteria are cells...

  • @Weraisethenerdyflag you're an idiot

  • @ehandkz No, actually, I'm simply disagreeing with you. There's no need to call me an idiot. From what I understand, but I'm not as painfully cocksure, the cell exists inside of the bacterium. The plasma membrane decides what it comes into contact with, however, I don't know for sure, I COULD be wrong. So even if I am, there's no need to act childish by calling me names.

  • @ehandkz Actually, you know what? I think I am wrong. The book I'm reading is trash then, so chill. Still, though, I'm not an idiot. All I have is the mix up with what it's classified as. Capsule, cell wall, plasma membrane, cytoplasm, DNA, ribosomes... It gets confusing. I was simply thinking of a prokaryotic bacterium and a few of its components.

  • @ehandkz i think they meant to say prokaryotic cells vs eukaryotic cells. :\

  • they call it battery cell

  • @unknown9155 What does a battery have anything to do with this?

  • sometimes, I wish I were born a bacterium :)

  • CRAP.

    at 1:02 it looks like japanese word !!

  • @emblazonpunk you're right :P

  • This video is garbage. The two videos are detail processes at different scales, and aren't really comprable. The talking is annoying. I'm unhappy all around.

  • @pyrpoi Build a fucking bridge and get the fuck over it. You whiny brat.

  • @pyrpoi don't worry, be happy

  • @pyrpoi good its ment to learn not to make u laugh

  • bolero and more sophisticated terminology really proves a point

  • is it possible with the naked eye to see as if you are looking under a microscope?A plane flew over head spraying chemtrails.I thought i was being infected by something cause i could see some kind of microscopic particle.I thought it was from the plane,but when i looked left and right it moves with my eyes?If i look at a white wall,cant see it,only when i look at a blue sky?I was hoping to see the image on some of these vids,maybe i am better off going to an eye DR then youtube..lol

  • @ezfla Don't worry, just about everyone sees this, its something underneath your cornea in fluid and moves along with your eye. I forget what it is but its harmless.

  • @caveman175 thx a lot,i was about to explore bio weapons soon.lol

  • @ezfla Those are called floaters, and they are literally inside your eyes.

  • @ezfla yeah don't worry about that. as someone else said, they're called floaters. They're basically just cell detritus. Everyone gets them to varying degrees, I can usually only see them when I look at the sky, but some people see them all the time, and I think there are procedures those people can go through to 'get rid of them'

  • I LOVE how a few comments go on to say to "praise the Lord" and all that.

    ... :I

  • nice vidéo soubhanallah

  • @pedrodemellodotnet please learn how to spell

  • Whats the music that plays for cell growth? 0:49 ?

  • no, i didn't see the difference, you showed two uncomparable videos. either show us the detailed processes in bacteria or a fastforward cellgrowth so it becomes comparable.

  • @pedrodemellodotnet an hour is an hour because a 24th (approx.) od a day is an hour which means days make hours which make more day which grow into weeks ect. so in reality an inch isnt wat an inch is unless the day is a 24th of an hour because the earth would just move anyway (possible an inch forwar or back depending on how long you are measuring) so then seconds could be considered placed because time is constant and so far so is the earths rotation speed. so by logic time = distance

  • @pedrodemellodotnet U MADAH??

  • @pedrodemellodotnet BUT WHAT IF I DONT WANNAH PRAISAH GODAH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!­!!!!!!!???HE DIDNT COMA ON MAY 21AH SO WHYAH SHOULD I PRAISAH HIM?

    ''the lord, he do nothing!''

  • This just goes to show how powerful our Designer is. The complexity, beauty and perfect balanced interaction between all things is the evidence and witness to Him. Uncomprehensible algorithms of life are all credited to Him. Accept it or rebel, the choice is solely yours.. Accept Jesus Christ before it's too late!

  • @hauzzer shut up, how does cell growth in ANY way show there is a creator? all medical science (much like the science that made this video) all point to evolution and not creation even in the slightest. you can be as dumb as you want, but don't go spreading your ignorance around.

  • @pedrodemellodotnet oh my unicorn .. please say that was a joke that you rejected the pink proton beam unicorn as your creator and the invisible pink unicorn as your savior? DUH what is wrong with you?!!

  • Bacteria are basically like a cancer

  • @pedrodemellodotnet WRONG, the work of Pink Proton Beam Unicorn is all around us. Mankind made "god" up.

  • @pedrodemellodotnet Pink Proton Beam Unicorn created the universe, not "god", now you will suffer in the Lake of Bubbly Fairydust for all of eternity because you rejected Pink Proton Beam Unicorn as your creator.

  • @Emothicaol, b.s. ... Xenu rides the pink proton beam unicorn to work everyday, and he does it cause he has to, not because he wants to.

  • @pedrodemellodotnet I back up my beliefs of Pink Proton Beam Unicorn with everything around us that Pink Proton Beam Unicorn created.

  • @pedrodemellodotnet You're going to burn forever for not accept that Pink Proton Beam Unicorn created the universe.

  • @pedrodemellodotnet Read the Bible, Hell isn't a place or burning or torture, it's separation from said god. Eternal loneliness, not fire. You're the missing link between religious people and idiocy.

  • PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE

    Y U NO STOP ARGUMENTING ABOUT GOD ON VIDEOS LIKE THIS?!?!?

  • Whatever happened to believing whatever you wanted to and leaving eachother the FUCK alone??? Geeze, all this stupid debate is getting old. I dont give a shit if you worship the flying spaghetti monster! if it makes you happy, good for you!

  • how many times is the magnification on this one?

  • This video evidently has very poor scientific grounding. For a start bacteria are cells so the title 'cell vs bacteria' makes zero sense. Assuming you are actually trying to show the difference between eukaryote and bacterial cellular division you are incorrect. the second half of the video showing the "cell" reproducing is actually a break down of the stages of mitosis. This also occurs during the replication of bacterial cells. Buy a gsce biology book or something its very basic stuff.

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  • Yeah the difference is that the cell must protect by all means the nucleus and their cromossomes, so that their genes will work properly.

    The bacteria also have the same deal, but instead its much smaller and smaller amount of genes so they reproduce very quickly.

  • yeah

  • Ewwwww they look like green turds >_<

  • What The Hell. A much Similar Process happens in bacteria cells. The Bacteria still has to double it's genetic content and sort it out (like an eukaryote). It just happen that this video doesn't show it.

  • i heard that e.coli is a really bad bacteria.... sorry im asian and i dont pay attention to school... idk why i just said that but if youre wondering i get straight A s in school and i DO have a life

  • are there bacteria when a woman has trophoblastic disease

  • bacteria seem like worms!!

  • Can you people shut up with religion! I'm trying to re-learn Biology class here!

  • I don't get what these people are even arguing about

    Of course seeing how bacteria work PROOFS that there is a kind and loving god

    Who else could have build these little machines like

    Staphylococcus aureus

    Hepatitis

    Listeria monocytogenes

    Smallpox

    Salmonella

    and so on ...

    They are 100% proof of a deadly bacteria designing god

  • @TheStrayCross if you are to believe in God, you are also to believe in the devil

  • @BeefCheck123 So the Devil created diseases?

    Which kill gods creation...

    So the devil is more powerful than god?

    Why doesn't he punish or kill him like he did in Eden for fucking with us?

  • @TheStrayCross dude i know it totally "proofs" everything!

  • @TheStrayCross So, let me guess: your "kind and loving god" made bacteria that now goes around and infects people? Do you also mean to add AIDS/HIV virus to your loving god's "proofs" of existence?

  • @jedikitty you do realize that was sarcasm or me do you? xD

  • @TheStrayCross Well that was the stupidest shit about god i ever heard.

    ITs just made like that, god didnt do shit. he doesnt exist

  • @PhenixReviewz Dude! xD Just read what I wrote a couple of lines down, I explained it already

    If you think "Everything was designed, the flagellum is proof of it" these diseases (which kill everybody painfully) must be from the god also ^^

    I don't believe in any gods :D

  • @TheStrayCross THen you win

  • @TheStrayCross calling Smallpox and Hepatitis a bacteria makes me guess that you must be a scientist

  • @MrMaezig Sorry sorry bacteria and virus designing god :P

  • @TheStrayCross just for the know it allness: there are many causes for hepatitis, but due to repeated molesting I furthermore demand a restraining order, so that the religion allway have to stay at least 50 meters away from science.

  • @TheStrayCross Hepatitis and Smallpox are both caused by a virus.

  • @2KV6Stang "deadly bacteria and virus designing god" is just too long

  • @2KV6Stang LOL! Yeah, but his point was still valid. ;)

  • @2KV6Stang really V>S

  • cant u even touch god with your hand? no?

    can u each onto a dirty object and pick up millions of bacteria ? yes

    now shut all the fucking religious bullshit. if u cant see it and cant touch it its not real

  • @loyaltodeath u can c it with a microscope ;-)

  • @loyaltodeath im not saying religion is true, im just asking can you see and touch a black hole?

  • @1a111a1 You can't see one, since it sucks light in. You can see the effects it has on things. And I wouldn't advise trying to touch one.

    If you try to compare this to how we can't see or touch God, but how we can tell he's there, I'm going to rage. There is no proof of God. None. We don't reach a stage where we go 'omg God must have done this!' because we always learn more, and go to an even deeper level. Plus I see no way of how this video proves the holy trinity, eternal debt or Jesus.

  • @3kliksphilip im just saying to that other guy that his argument is bad.i personally think that to think that there is a god is silly because there is no proof. its just an idea that people came up with a long time ago to explain things like rain and nighttime that they couldnt explain in any other way. thinking that there is a god is just as ridiculous as thinking that the earth is actually floating inside the cavern of a giant kangaroos mouth because there is no way of proving otherwise.

  • @1a111a1 oh so how u pop into existence , show me 1 thing that pops into existence without creator ?

    also how if we turn from some animal & trash whatever u believe in how that first baby will survive and why it's male and female , simply many questions u will not answer , how sky there , why day is 24 hours not + or - a min

    Cheap talk....i am not asking u to believe in something if you interesting i am just saying message i am asked to do so by our prophet Mohamed .

    thx

  • @MrSameho whered god come from then? wups... i beat religion...

  • @1a111a1 that is very limited thinking man , when god created us the word creation has been defined god as well as marriage that god created to make humans live and produced , etc.

    god doesn't have wife or marriage he created this for his creation.

    for example physics he created physics later on we discovered it.

    i hope u got my point

  • @1a111a1 you wouldn't understand.

    God isn't an entity, it is a concept, a universal principle.

    To put it in the simplest terms, what most people refer to as "God" is simply the organization of all matter in the universe, and the symphony which this matter creates at any given instant.

  • @HariVIyer ok, thats what you mean by "god", but these people are referring to an almighty entity that created everything in the universe; this is asinine. I know what people mean by god because i went to a religious school when I was younger. The organization of matter in the universe is determined by scientific principles and laws that humankind has discovered and has yet to discover. I would understand.

  • @1a111a1 most of these people are spewing bs without critically thinking about any of it...I'm not sure why you are wasting your time with them.

    And by the way, scientific principles can only explain how matter is organized in the universe, not why it is so.

    God is simply Purpose, and Purpose speaks a language, that language is called science.

  • @1a111a1 o boy u kinda didnt

    good try though i respect that

  • @1a111a1 how does this video prove theres no god?

  • @MrSameho you are an ignorant loser. 1) nothing "pops" into existence 2) the fist baby had parents you stupid fuck. Have you ever heard of "evolution"? Human beings did not just come into existence, we evolved from previous generations through mutations and natural selection. 3) The sex of a zygote is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome, but i don't think its even worth trying to explain this concept to you.

  • 4) this is the worst one. The length of a day is determined by the speed at which the earth rotates. Is 24 hours a perfect number for you? Hours are a measurement determined by human beings just like inches. Asking why a day is 24 hours is like asking why an inch is exactly one inch. My talk is not cheap, it is substantiated by scientific evidence. Your talk is what your mom told you when you were little. Grow the fuck up.

  • And thats why, cells don't rule the earth!

  • ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • send the heavy white blood cell guy and everything is fine

  • Yeah 5000 billion billion i like that number : D

  • Their just comments people, there's no need to overeact to it.

  • bacteria... are cells...?

  • @arslanabhatti Yes, prokaryotes.

  • It's religious comments that the uploader becomes a complete pussy and is too stupid to minimize his comments so he wants to be involved of a conversation he doesn't even need to be part of and disable comments so other people can't have an outlet

    It's not the religious talk, it's the uploader's fault..

  • @1ramonawhite Please don't use double negatives. I cant tell what position you are for.

  • Why is it that someone posts a science thing on youtube and suddenly you get religous freaks out the woodwork?

    cmon guys, butt out.

  • RELIGION IS SIMPLY A BELIEF! I am a Christian myself and "believe" in god. But science is proof. Can any1 religious in here PLEASE send me a video of GOD creating this.............im waiting.........

  • @iMrBigRed You could also call it faith, but I digress.

  • @Aresftfun yes that too. But who ever brings religion into science is just irrelevant. Keep the religious comments in the religious parts of YouTube.

  • @iMrBigRed True-true. But it is inevitable that comments like that will be in evolution videos, I'm just surprised it was in this one.

  • @iMrBigRed Christians do not believe in Science. And Christianity is not a religion but rather a relationship. Why is this discussion even here in this wonderful page? It's for wows not debates!

  • @receivejesusnow Yes, Christianity is a religion. because it is based on ''faith''. and science doesn't require ''belief''.

  • @receivejesusnow Are you serious. . ??? What kind of narrow minded buffoon are you. . ?? It's morons like you, that have caused countless hundres of millions to be killed, simply because of the "my faith is better than your faith" crap that you're driveling on about here.

    Faith is faith, no matter what you believe in. No one religion is correct. It varies based on culture. There are religions that are faaar older than Christianity, so what makes you think that Christianity is better than others?

  • @Soldier4USA2005 that's what you think. It's this kind of folly that sends people to Hell.

  • @receivejesusnow Since you didn't answer my question, or even dispute it, I will suspect that you don't have an answer and you got caught in a self delusional lie. Therefore, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Thank you for proving my point.

    I thought that you had to be a very bad person to be sent to hell. Being sent there, simply because someone doesn't believe in the same god as you, is some of the worst religious idiocy I have heard of. The worst, are religious extremists.

    Like you.

  • @receivejesusnow And we are now waaaay of topic of the video, which is good information.

  • @kei1010101010 You are correct, they do need nutrients to grow. However, seeing that nutrients are on the scales of nanometers, it's not something the eyes can see under a light microscope. The bacteria are typically grown in substances called growth medium, which contains all the necessary nutrient to supply growth.

  • super boring

  • Bah, 7th grade science.

  • Sounds like Bolero by Ravel.

  • what is the name of the classical music in this video?

  • How did you record what you see under the microscope? Did you have to buy an adapter? What's the brand, model, and how much did it set you back?

    Thanks!

  • Studying about meiosis and mitosis has allowed me to appreciate life more and understand God even better. I just wish more people would see it that way.

  • @missypunkrocker wtf is god doing there...its bacteria....dont understand ppl these day, talking about science and religion,its what it is nothing else,no god nothing,its all about science...and by the way i agree with (RCTycoonlll)

  • Religion and science. Religion tries to tell you why the world is, whilst science tries to tell you how it works. They can go together, scientists can be religious

  • @paperboyjohn

    Science: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from this?

    Religion: Here's the conclusion. What facts can we find to support it?

  • @Easytoremembermember There are very few actually "facts" in science, and even those "facts" have been revised and even replaced by others. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's theory. That is what makes science great. It's ability to adapt. Science is based on what humans, and our creations, are capable of perceiving, and I am sure that we can all agree that humans are far from perfect.

  • @Easytoremembermember i think the conclusion goes something like mitochondria and chloroplasts found in eukaryotes are prokaryotic endosymbionts.

  • @Easytoremembermember

    Science: Heres how much the government(s) will give us in grants to form a conclusions favorable to their "planning".

    Religion: God made science and everything science stares at. We will trust god more than the "planners".

  • @Easytoremembermember LOL! I wonder sometimes if they even bother with facts at all. Funny all the same though. ;)

  • @percivul If you seriously think thats true your an idiot.

  • @MrMikebalzich Oh good!  Let's begin this game with logical fallacies! I see you'd like to start with ad hominem and vaguary. Good job. Now, would you like to expand on what the fuck you're talking about so I can systematically destroy what I assume will be a nonsensical christian argument?

  • @percivul I'm not arguing that. I'm saying if you really think Christians blindly follow that other than west borrow baptist church then your just making an ass of your self. The actual Christianity teaches that the creation story is meant to be taken figuratively, but I assume you didn't know that. If you honestly think a good portion of America believes that the creation story is true then your just being a self-righteous prick in which so far I see you being braggadocio with your vocab.

  • @MrMikebalzich I see. Well, acording to a Miller poll in which christians in this country were surveyed, of the fundementalist group, the majority think that the bible is to be taken literally and evolution is a myth. Moreover, you failed to mention which christian teaching you're reffering to as a counter to that. I don't recall ever saying "a good portion of America" believes in creationism. So, now that we've cleared that up, it's your turn. Also, if you like, I'll post the link.

  • @percivul Actually, I'll post the link anyhow. I want to be fair. I should also note that it took me less than 10 seconds to find just this one article on this one poll. There are quite a few that have been done in the same arena and by and large, the US tends to lean towards thinking science is wrong... at least among the christian sect of the population.

    newscientist DOT cam/article/dn9786-why-doesnt-­america-believe-in-evolution DOT hhhl

    Sub cam for com.

    Sub hhhl for html.

  • @percivul Some Christians do believe it. Yes that is true but it not what the actual faith teaches. You'll find the catholic ethics book mentions the theory of creation and its initial purpose was to serve as a story and most catholic high schools do the same thing. If a Christian can not confirm that in the first place they really can't call themselves Christian due to lack of information. As you state "fundamentalist" meaning the ones that take it way to seriously, not the actual faith.

  • @MrMikebalzich But you see, there in lies my entire premiss. Science works because anyone can repeat the experiments contained within. There is no ambiguity or seperate "beliefs". The math is absolute. Religion as a whole depends on the diametric opposite in order to function. That is essentially what faith is. The reason creationists, of every faith, get laughed at is because it requires them to discount something they COULD prove in favor of something that only functions without proof.

  • @percivul I agree that it is fruitless trying to get Religion to prove something with Science. However, There is something beyond Science (don't assume I'm trying to get all improvable hypothesis here. I actually feel I have a valid claim that I will explain in a second) that had to start everything and if my idea is correct. The odds of a higher power outweigh the odds of its non-existence.

  • @MrMikebalzich Ok, to be fair to you, let me know when you have asserted all of your points and I'll adress them one by one.

  • @percivul Ok. And for the record I'm going off to bed after its posted. Its late here lol. I'll have to elaborate in tommorow.

  • @percivul Science recently claims (mostly Hawking) that everything in the universe is predictable. While we have known this for a while it made me realize something. If everything has to have a cause and effect then theres a paradox. Take a molecule and break it into a atom then into a quart. As we keep breaking it down we realize each level of size plays its own role in the universe. However, if the cause and effect system continues the paradox would be that there would be too many things......

  • @MrMikebalzich bear with me through this response though. I am horrible at explaining my ideas

  • @MrMikebalzich No worries.  Take your time.

  • @percivul I am not calling super natural as what it might seem as "magical" and other bs. I claim it as supernatural because it would have to be a effect without a cause. Thus making it supernatural

  • @MrMikebalzich Ok, I want some clarity. Are you suggesting that the supernatural is essence a means to justify a violation of a fundemental law of physics? Namely, the conservation of information (cause and effect). If that's not what you mean, I would ask that you restate your point so I'm not confused as to your conclussion.

  • @percivul Yes, thats exactly where I am getting at.

  • @MrMikebalzich Ok, I'm with you now. Alright, I'm going to address your points as best I am able.

    "However, There is something beyond Science"

    Ok, it is upon you to demonstrate what you mean. To simply say it is not enough. A counter to that would be if I said "I believe in pixies and dragons. Do you believe me?" and you would most likely say "no." All I have to do is ask "why," and you come to the core of religious faith. It's the case of special pleading. A logical falllacy.

  • @MrMikebalzich ...If you will not accept my assertion due to lack of demonstrable evidence, you can not in the same context exclude your faith in a diety from that scrutiny. To do so is to commit a logical fallacy.

  • @MrMikebalzich So to sum up your point, it is ok for someone to believe in something that is "beyond" science because the expected result is that it makes them happy. This is an irresponsible and frankly, dangerous point of view. I'll explain. In ancient Greece, people believed that lightning was the creation of Zeus. There are records from that time period of people using bronze rods to "catch the fingers of Zeus". I'm sure you can imagine what happened to them...

  • @percivul Alright well I've been fighting myself on whether i should actually respond to this because I know how this will go down (just pissing each other off even if its intellectual) but I'm going against my better judgement and doing it anyway. Now your first point about saying religious believing in something beyond Science is being irresponsible for the example of the Greeks is blowing things way out of proportion. Just because someone is religious.....

  • @percivul I guess beyond Science is a bad term and will allow you to draw to the conclusion of pixies and what not. I'm basically trying to say that this world is not black and white and nothing is ever as it seems and to draw to the conclusion that "yep theres nothing that could have been responsible for this that has a intellect" is a logical fallacy. Science is only meant to explain something, not disprove it and therefore can never disprove a god, only discover it.

  • @MrMikebalzich I take issue with the last part of your statement. Science isn't meant to explain anything, as you frame it. What science does is remove the parts of a hypothesis convergently. If the end result is the removal of all parts, the hypothesis fails. The assertion you make that is can't disprove god, only discover it IS a fallacy in that again, you're using the argument from ignorance by stating that god has to exist. This is not how the scientific method works.

  • @MrMikebalzich In essence, lack of understanding in the natural world is not sufficient reason to substitute an intangible parent figure in its place. Secondly, I would address your assertion that being theistic more often brings about happiness. You might be interested to know that there have been peer reviewed studies on marriage and divorce in which they found a correlation between higher divorce rates and theistic beliefs. Ironically, it was atheists who scored lower in divorce rates...

  • @percivul I have to begin to doubt your religious knowledge (sorry) If you are unable to tell me the most common effect religion has on people. You may have knowledge of it but it seems you are lacking the experiance from current evidence. To claim that atheists have a lower divorce rate then say that with that evidence they are happier than theists is a massive gap to jump to get to that conclusion. Yes, I agree that just because we can't explain something means we should jump to the conclusion

  • @MrMikebalzich Your doubt is fine, but to correct your thesis, I never said it was a fact that atheists have better marriages. I said a peer reviewed study showed a correlation between theism and divorce rates. In that stufy, atheists had fewer divorces. I'm not making the leap to say that this is personal proof of atheisms superiority. I'm simply saying that I agree with the validity of the study as it was peer reviewed.

  • @MrMikebalzich ...so I would suggest that perhaps religion does NOT in fact increase happiness.

    The cause and effect you are reffering to is also called infinite regress, and yes, it is a paradox. But the statement I will use to clear it up is the intellectually valid one. We simply do not know what started (if there is a begining) the universe. To simply say that we don't know where it comes from does not automatically mean it was a god that did it.

  • @percivul of God which is why I remain agnostic catholic. However, when I talked about God and infinite regress being a paradox I also stated that the physics in this world are too well set up to have life and If an unknown force were to be the actual cause of this existence and have the physics play out so we could exist as well is odd. Its like consistently hitting a jackpot on a slot machine and not questioning "wait whats going on?"

  • @MrMikebalzich Not sure what you mean here, so perhaps we should exchange phone numbers and have a discussion about this and possibly other points. I really do want to understand where you're coming from so until I have clarity, I'll simply refrain from commenting on this part.

  • @MrMikebalzich This is the argument from ignorance fallacy. Losely attached is the false dichotomy fallacy. Perhaps there is 3rd option? Perhaps a 4th? That is the point of science and scientific theory. It states that we continually test and retest a hypothesis to rule out the parts which are NOT valid to a tangentile point. So, to say we "had to come from somewhere" is a fallacy, because it is suggesting that since we do not know our own origins, there can be only one other option.

  • @MrMikebalzich Now, for the statement on infinite division, mathematics have shown demonstrably that infinite smallness is a valid position in the world of string theory. In other words, to break down elements into smaller components does not suggest there has to be a foundational size to any given quark. In fact, my statement earlier applies here as well. We simply do not know what lies beneath, but again, it does not automatically validate a god.

  • @percivul For infinite division to be plausible then we wouldn't exist or atleast wouldn't be around for nearly as long as we have been. If things went on forever and for us to be as fragile as we are then if one thing reacts wrong with us in the chain (which is infinite, so most likely every life second thousands... well actually an infinite amount) create a reaction that suddenly makes H2O no longer want to bond for just a slight second, we would be immediately killed and once again everyting

  • @MrMikebalzich would not be as predictable as it is in the known world today. So ultimately yes, infinite division can happen but theres a small chance it will and to stick with that side just for the sake of not wanting to get into a frame that is beyond known science would be a logical fallacy.

  • @MrMikebalzich Again, not sure where you're coming from with this point. I'm going to need clarity here.