hello great 32's ! would it mayby be possible to have this piece meby with a better camera? it sounds amazing but i think less distortion could be the iceing on the cake .
'm sure I know why..but i thot it kinda funny anyway. If you listen to the Gigout Toccata in Bmin on the link right next to this vid (eugene gigout-toccata fur orgel royalecn)..the pitch/intonation is actually the same,(give or take a few cents%),..althought the two pieces are in different keys..hehehe..
Thanks for the comments. I know what the registration is supposed to be, but I do not have the skills to make rapid registration changes mid-performance. I have recently installed toe-pistons but i do not know how to activate registration changes. In my case it would take two people to perform this piece, me to play and an assistant to change stops.
@tubamaxima Does your organ have a reversible "Pedal 32s on" (or off) toe stud? if so, you can use it to add the 32s at the last statenment of the theme as Noel Rawsthorne did in His Liverpool Cathedral recording to great effect. Other than that you did a very good job indeed.
If my translation is right, then he said just what I was about to. Only reeds and foundation stops of 8' and 4' on the swell to begin with. The pedal should have the swell coupled to it, and only foundations 8', 16' and 32' to begin with. The pedal reeds - including the 32' should be saved until the bit where the score says "Anches Ped" - then you put the reeds to the pedal. Other than that, great performance. But take care not to play too quickly in a large acoustic environment.
@JCS22260 *This is what JCS22260 said* The score does not have the 32' pipes written in from the first C. Also there were no changes (in the pedal) later on.... dissapointing
The video recorder was a cheap thing called a "Flip". I'm actually surprised it's that good. Yes, the sound is bad. Maybe half of something is better than a whole of nothing. I just did it to demonstrate the organ
The tempo is really good. The Boellmann is one of the most successful compositions for organ. While not too difficult to master, as far as technique, the RHYTHM is what makes this piece. It takes a clean fingering to play, and everytime I play it people go "your rhythm in the Boellmann was superb!"
This is not a real pipe organ, but a Hauptwerk "virtual" organ. I cannot change stops quickly, so i played "full" from the beginning. Altpapapi is correct in that the 32 should not have used until later. He should listen to my Bach Toccata in D minor where I make several registration changes. Sounds better.
I am not a good sight reader of music. The piece is not that difficult although it sounds difficult. basically is is the same melody played in C minor, then G minor back to C minor. It took me about a year.
I can't play music as I read it, It takes me forever, I have to learn it by ear, or rather, just play it till my hands move without thinking, and then I can do it.
Perhaps a few weeks for a simple song, months for something complicated... and a year or two for this probably :P
Only organ I have access to is this old POS with only 1 octave pedals and two mains that are extremely short, so I often find myself not having the notes that should be there
You might want to look into a simple Hauptwerk set up. If you have ANY keyboard with a MIDI OUT, use a cheap computer with 2-4 gigs of RAM ( mine has 16 gigs for the three keyboards and pedals) and you can play anything. The pedals I salvaged from a used pipe organ ( got it for $150) and converted it to MIDI ( cost about $400 total) which is cheaper than the $1700 for a new one.
My system is fantastic, 1000% better than any Allen or Rogers piece of shit.
I don't use my speakers any more ( not good enough). Good speakers are WAY too expensive. I use a AKG 701 headphones. They are the best available. Unbelievable !!! They weren't cheap ( I got them on sale for $200, they are usually over $500). But they are the best by far.
Whew! This is a disaster. The pedal registration is completely overwrought with the 32' contra from the beginning. This leaves very little expansion capability for the climax of the piece. Sounds mostly like someone trying to show off. Sorry, didn't like this at all.
If you are playing in a big place, like St Paul's cathedral London, which has a 10 second reverb, you have to play slow otherwise the notes wont be clear.
Also, with some organs, you have to give the reeds time to 'speak'.
i also think this version is better than Iomanorgans! i listened to both and feel the passion is in this video, is louder and sounds soooo much better. x
You can probably get a pedalboard for free if you contact Allen organs or Rogers or anyone of those digital organs where a church throws out a pipe organ.
The pedal board conversion took me a few hours to build. It has been very reliable.
Hi i have just buyed my self a 30 pedalboard to play on myorgan As i have a big cathedral sample set I have got 3 keyboards But the pedalboard is Proving Tricky . I am looking for somethink that will make the pedalboard work like contacts and Midi software Board Problem Is dont no nothink about Midi at all. could u Reply back to me if possible God bless
I was able to obtain a real AGO radiating convave pipe organ pedalboard from a discarded pipe organ. It didn't have any contacts on it at all since everything was inside the discarded console. I purchased 32 pedal board ten pin "blocks" and 32 one inch width bronze contacts that I attached underneath each pedal key. I ran 32 wires (plus a ground) to a crude junction post. WERSI electronics has a Midi conversion kit that somehow accepts 32+1 wires and sends the MIDI signal to my computer.
You can also purchase a MIDI kit from classic in Canada . It does the same thing. I made my pedalboard about 15 years ago when I plugged it into my simple keyboard before I went with hauptwerk. So I didn't need to buy one. My cost was about $50 for the contacts, the wire you can get anywhere ( I used 24 guage solid core from the telephone company) and the WERSI MIDI kit was about $400 and the pedalboard was $150
Chłopie, co tak kiepsko grasz? Za wolno, nie rytmicznie, źle zaregistrowane... Z takim wykonaniem nie ma się co chwalić.
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Man, what you play so poorly? Too slow, not rhythmically, register bad ... With this implementation is not as praise. (translation by Google translate :))
I don't, yet ! I am just using cheap speakers, but lot's of them. Each manual and pedal has it's own stereo amp ( my best amp is for the pedal division) and two speakers in stereo. I heard there is another way of doing it so that you can program the organ to always play all of the speakers available, regardless of what manual or stop is on. I don't know how to do that. I would recommend that if you use speakers, to make sure all of them are matched. Mine aren't. I think this is most important.
Thanks for the comments. Actually, I live in the middle of no-where. My neasrest neighbor is about 1/4 mile away. No problem with the noise. The organ has eight channels, maybe that's why it sounds so good. I've heard other similar organs and they are only through two channels, not as good. Where are you from, England ?
Many thanks for this posting... Thoroughly enjoyed it. Used to have it in my repertoire then it sort of slid out unnoticed. I think I'll practise it up again. ORGAN SOUNDS WONDERFUL! Bet your neighbours love you! lol
Great, I love the 32' Pedal as well. good technique, good tempo.
Simsonsimsons 1 week ago
Wonderful!!!
indytriton 2 months ago
I liked the playing but save the 32' until the end. it's a little too full on when you have it all the way through!
zippylad77 4 months ago
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odes anyone have the sheet work for this. would you please email it to
andraz.skrinjar@gmail.com
MsAndraz 5 months ago
audio very ugly
ziobebino 8 months ago
Sound from this organ is very good! And your'r playing very well! (sorry, my Englisch is very poor)
pio9210 8 months ago
I can't play it this fast yet...your video inspired me to get off my butt and start practicing...
87PianoGirl 9 months ago
@87PianoGirl see valentina maria baginska....she plays in a much faster tempo which suites this piece better
thugnlive 7 months ago
i like your tempo!
moechtegernPianist 11 months ago
hello great 32's ! would it mayby be possible to have this piece meby with a better camera? it sounds amazing but i think less distortion could be the iceing on the cake .
many thanks ..
MrAlex413x 1 year ago
This is very good. Not a bad registration. I like the fact that you've added more stops to the pedal. Keep up the great work!
mfortee 1 year ago
'm sure I know why..but i thot it kinda funny anyway. If you listen to the Gigout Toccata in Bmin on the link right next to this vid (eugene gigout-toccata fur orgel royalecn)..the pitch/intonation is actually the same,(give or take a few cents%),..althought the two pieces are in different keys..hehehe..
all in all very nice job tubamaxima..cudos.
cobychas 1 year ago
PEDAL! SWEET> SOUNDS GOOD FOR A DIGITAL Organ.
danielmkubacki 1 year ago
Thanks for the comments. I know what the registration is supposed to be, but I do not have the skills to make rapid registration changes mid-performance. I have recently installed toe-pistons but i do not know how to activate registration changes. In my case it would take two people to perform this piece, me to play and an assistant to change stops.
tubamaxima 1 year ago
@tubamaxima Does your organ have a reversible "Pedal 32s on" (or off) toe stud? if so, you can use it to add the 32s at the last statenment of the theme as Noel Rawsthorne did in His Liverpool Cathedral recording to great effect. Other than that you did a very good job indeed.
trompettechamade1 5 months ago
le 32' des le debut c pas écrit dans la partition, et malheureusement aucune nuances par la suite...un peu décevant
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JCS22260 1 year ago
@JCS22260 In English , please !!!
tubamaxima 1 year ago
If my translation is right, then he said just what I was about to. Only reeds and foundation stops of 8' and 4' on the swell to begin with. The pedal should have the swell coupled to it, and only foundations 8', 16' and 32' to begin with. The pedal reeds - including the 32' should be saved until the bit where the score says "Anches Ped" - then you put the reeds to the pedal. Other than that, great performance. But take care not to play too quickly in a large acoustic environment.
Sathrandur 1 year ago
@JCS22260 *This is what JCS22260 said* The score does not have the 32' pipes written in from the first C. Also there were no changes (in the pedal) later on.... dissapointing
Flutenatic 1 year ago
ok... but you are very good (sorry im italian i dont speak english) bye
lockiper 1 year ago
I enjoy to see you .. !!! Congratulations
Vegasastron 1 year ago
the sound is very bad,,, but this is gooood
lockiper 1 year ago
The video recorder was a cheap thing called a "Flip". I'm actually surprised it's that good. Yes, the sound is bad. Maybe half of something is better than a whole of nothing. I just did it to demonstrate the organ
tubamaxima 1 year ago
AMAZING!!!!! THATS THE BEST VERSION IVE HEARD SO FAR!!!
Nothing more to say.
BRILLIANT JOB DUDE!!
Greez, Friedrich (Organist, too) ^^
friedrichsacher 2 years ago
Mighty great and grand music!
neelsdp1 2 years ago
very good, very good, but it begins ppp ;)
paranormaalutrecht 2 years ago
u should do the phantom of the opera. its hard for me to find a rlly gud one online. maybe you could do that
kelphelp 2 years ago
You should be playing for the gods my friend. =) If I won the lottery, I would pay for someone like you to play all day. =)
oB33TLEJUIC3o 2 years ago
id build a massive extension and have a 7 manual organ built, as many stops as i could get.
hatstalker 2 years ago
The Cavaille-Coll samples from HW are fantastic! I love their work from the Metz organ
DesireeDeFete 2 years ago 2
Hauptwerk is truly amazing. I have two Cavaille-Coll samples, the Metz and the Caen.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
@tubamaxima the contra bombarde of the pedal is great,
i love Cavaillé-Coll classical pipe organs.
apetorino 7 months ago
The tempo is really good. The Boellmann is one of the most successful compositions for organ. While not too difficult to master, as far as technique, the RHYTHM is what makes this piece. It takes a clean fingering to play, and everytime I play it people go "your rhythm in the Boellmann was superb!"
DesireeDeFete 2 years ago
Can you play it for us and submit it to Youtube ? it would be nice to hear you play it.
Antoni
tubamaxima 2 years ago
Sure! And the comment was actaully one of good critique ...wink wink.
DesireeDeFete 2 years ago
I can't tell if you people are just full of shit, or actually genuinely disappointed by this.
that would have been awesome to hear it first person though, the camera tends to distort it D:
weylin6 2 years ago
This is not a real pipe organ, but a Hauptwerk "virtual" organ. I cannot change stops quickly, so i played "full" from the beginning. Altpapapi is correct in that the 32 should not have used until later. He should listen to my Bach Toccata in D minor where I make several registration changes. Sounds better.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
You still did better than I could ever hope to do :I
How long does it take you to learn a song by heart? One such as this for example.
weylin6 2 years ago
I am not a good sight reader of music. The piece is not that difficult although it sounds difficult. basically is is the same melody played in C minor, then G minor back to C minor. It took me about a year.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
I can't play music as I read it, It takes me forever, I have to learn it by ear, or rather, just play it till my hands move without thinking, and then I can do it.
Perhaps a few weeks for a simple song, months for something complicated... and a year or two for this probably :P
Only organ I have access to is this old POS with only 1 octave pedals and two mains that are extremely short, so I often find myself not having the notes that should be there
weylin6 2 years ago
You might want to look into a simple Hauptwerk set up. If you have ANY keyboard with a MIDI OUT, use a cheap computer with 2-4 gigs of RAM ( mine has 16 gigs for the three keyboards and pedals) and you can play anything. The pedals I salvaged from a used pipe organ ( got it for $150) and converted it to MIDI ( cost about $400 total) which is cheaper than the $1700 for a new one.
My system is fantastic, 1000% better than any Allen or Rogers piece of shit.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
I might just look into this. Sure as hell cheaper than making a real one LOL
They really don't sound all that bad if you got good samples and the correct speaker setup
weylin6 2 years ago
I don't use my speakers any more ( not good enough). Good speakers are WAY too expensive. I use a AKG 701 headphones. They are the best available. Unbelievable !!! They weren't cheap ( I got them on sale for $200, they are usually over $500). But they are the best by far.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
Whew! This is a disaster. The pedal registration is completely overwrought with the 32' contra from the beginning. This leaves very little expansion capability for the climax of the piece. Sounds mostly like someone trying to show off. Sorry, didn't like this at all.
altpapapi 2 years ago
If you are playing in a big place, like St Paul's cathedral London, which has a 10 second reverb, you have to play slow otherwise the notes wont be clear.
Also, with some organs, you have to give the reeds time to 'speak'.
tommyupoo 2 years ago
i also think this version is better than Iomanorgans! i listened to both and feel the passion is in this video, is louder and sounds soooo much better. x
hollie22scotland 2 years ago
wow this is fantastic! u played it with sheer passion! :-)
hollie22scotland 2 years ago
Excelente! :D
Hud0092 2 years ago
but it's sound great
iomanorgan 2 years ago
sorry but I think it's a little bit slow ! I played it last year and I played it very faster !
iomanorgan 2 years ago
I have played many organs, and the bigger the organ the slower you should play.
I don't think playing fast allows you to hear each note.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
i agree! Widor's 5th is played very slow on the recording I've heard of him on the Cavaille-Coll.
RobtheKappelmeister 2 years ago
I agree!! Needs to be faster.
Also, I don't think the 32' stops should have been used at the beginning. There's no momentum to build up to.
chicorico70 2 years ago
Fabulous 32' reeds :-)
lee1984yate 2 years ago 2
You can probably get a pedalboard for free if you contact Allen organs or Rogers or anyone of those digital organs where a church throws out a pipe organ.
The pedal board conversion took me a few hours to build. It has been very reliable.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
Hi i have just buyed my self a 30 pedalboard to play on myorgan As i have a big cathedral sample set I have got 3 keyboards But the pedalboard is Proving Tricky . I am looking for somethink that will make the pedalboard work like contacts and Midi software Board Problem Is dont no nothink about Midi at all. could u Reply back to me if possible God bless
Aaronorganist19 2 years ago
Try contacting Callsic Organs in Canada. They have exactly what you are looking for.
Antoni
tubamaxima 2 years ago
how much did your pedalboard cost?
Crystalvector 2 years ago
I was able to obtain a real AGO radiating convave pipe organ pedalboard from a discarded pipe organ. It didn't have any contacts on it at all since everything was inside the discarded console. I purchased 32 pedal board ten pin "blocks" and 32 one inch width bronze contacts that I attached underneath each pedal key. I ran 32 wires (plus a ground) to a crude junction post. WERSI electronics has a Midi conversion kit that somehow accepts 32+1 wires and sends the MIDI signal to my computer.
tubamaxima 2 years ago
You can also purchase a MIDI kit from classic in Canada . It does the same thing. I made my pedalboard about 15 years ago when I plugged it into my simple keyboard before I went with hauptwerk. So I didn't need to buy one. My cost was about $50 for the contacts, the wire you can get anywhere ( I used 24 guage solid core from the telephone company) and the WERSI MIDI kit was about $400 and the pedalboard was $150
tubamaxima 2 years ago
fajna toccata boelmana c-moll w ......h-moll xD
cross147 2 years ago
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towertooth456 3 years ago
anyone got a "fakebook" format of this peice?
e.g with chords for left hand and pedal?:s
This is fab, just shows how far the hauptwerk stuff has come along, fab playing from antonni as well!
compton357 3 years ago
Chłopie, co tak kiepsko grasz? Za wolno, nie rytmicznie, źle zaregistrowane... Z takim wykonaniem nie ma się co chwalić.
EN
Man, what you play so poorly? Too slow, not rhythmically, register bad ... With this implementation is not as praise. (translation by Google translate :))
W960 3 years ago 2
I don't, yet ! I am just using cheap speakers, but lot's of them. Each manual and pedal has it's own stereo amp ( my best amp is for the pedal division) and two speakers in stereo. I heard there is another way of doing it so that you can program the organ to always play all of the speakers available, regardless of what manual or stop is on. I don't know how to do that. I would recommend that if you use speakers, to make sure all of them are matched. Mine aren't. I think this is most important.
tubamaxima 3 years ago
Antoni... What kind of subwoofer do you have on your HW setup. Quite the "wall-shaker" indeed!
Capt737AA 3 years ago
Quite a good performance. I have heard this suite played by a brassband. I was looking for it and came across your version.
FlyToADream 3 years ago
Stuart:
Thanks for the comments. Actually, I live in the middle of no-where. My neasrest neighbor is about 1/4 mile away. No problem with the noise. The organ has eight channels, maybe that's why it sounds so good. I've heard other similar organs and they are only through two channels, not as good. Where are you from, England ?
tubamaxima 3 years ago
Many thanks for this posting... Thoroughly enjoyed it. Used to have it in my repertoire then it sort of slid out unnoticed. I think I'll practise it up again. ORGAN SOUNDS WONDERFUL! Bet your neighbours love you! lol
Keep playing.
Regards,
Stuart
stuartylad 3 years ago