Yeah lets show a BIASed website to show statistics about the US... Look at the damn moto - For a stronger, cleaner, fairer world economy... Holy shit that makes me want to puke. Question i want answered is; according to who? There are so many other things involved, including monetary policy and political cronyism, need for tort reform, etc. that drives up the cost of HC in the US. Its not just as simple as looking as some arbitrary statistics compiled by a group that FAVORS socialist HC.
If you think the US has a free-market healthcare system any argument you try to make will be horribly flawed. There is a reason the US became the richest nation with the best healthcare (before massive government involvement). Why with NO government HC spending did everyone have access to a doctor and NO one had to wait or was turned away? Not to mention sustainability w/ progression... We'll see in another 50 years.
Isn't the 93% statistic anecodtal evidence? I love how the NHS works, don't get me wrong. But playing devils advocate for a moment, how useful is that statistic in actually determining the quality of the NHS?
@Nightmare060 No, the 93% stat isn't anecdotal evidence. Taking the accounts of a handful of NHS patients and presenting them as representative of the system as a whole would be anecdotal evidence but surveying a representative sample of patients with a well constructed questionaire is a pretty sound way of determining the attidute of the general public towards the NHS. You're correct that on it's own it does little to demonstrate overall quality but customer satisfaction is an important factor.
@sunrise2104 So in which case, this statistic would suggest at the very least that the NHS has to be doing something right to keep the people happy, and would be a starting point to look into the details to perhaps get more of an idea of what determines a good or bad service?
Considering many americans strongly view america as a christian nation, one can ask the question to these people "what would jesus do?" . I ask would jesus stand in the hospital corridore behind a desk and under a sign with the caption "billing dept " .
the healthcare issues in the usa is based on race , class & a failed racist ideology that base everything on fear of non whites, religion , guns & hating the poor. the usa is slowly turning into a fascist country like Nazi germany, thanks to the conservative rightwing.
I'm just so fuckin tired of hearing all these people say that socialist program are bad. But I bet every one of those fucks will have no problem cashing their social security check. Hypocritical cunts.
This bill is only a win for the insurance companies profits. They can still deny claims. So nothing was really fixed other than they have to accept preexisting conditions really. The exchange is going to be a huge waste of tax dollars that would have been better spent on a public option.
The current reform is crap. I'm a working uninsured american. And with this bill in it's current state I will not able to afford my rent. If the public opinion had still been on the table this would have been a good bill. But now it's a failure. It doesn't remove the exemption insurance companies have from anti-trust laws. This bill will not force then to compete with each other. And they get an injection of 20 to 30 million people into their system. Government fail.
@HaT223 And the Australian Healthcare system as well. I really pity Americans to have been lied to by their government and the right wing press. I am saddened and having many Friends from the USA my heart goes out to you.
We need to make videos to prove that non profit organisations are better than companys,who's main objective is to create profit are better for healthcare now?...wow
Seriously,i barely trust that i'm going to get paid out on house insurance,and people actually trust insurance companys with their lives?
well you've heard the saying "better the devil you know",this is "better the devil,thats not trying to make money off your ass"
I have emailed the White House about going after dental care as well as health care, but the response I got back had zero to do with what I wrote!
I had to wonder if a live person even reads the email sent to the White House, since the response I got back only covered the issue of health care and said nothing of the issue I brought up.
So, even with dental insurance, dentist will still charge huge amounts of money over what our insurance will cover and will see nothing wrong with it.
Does the NHS cover dental as well? My husband and I have had to put off much needed dental care to make sure our children got their needs met.
We have dental insurance, but dentist here charge double what the insurance will pay out, so we are forced to put off our dental needs to make sure our children don't suffer.
We all brush twice a day and floss along with that, but we still need dental work.
It does cover dental, but only necessary dental for adults on a basic level. Most people in the UK use private dental services as well as the NHS. However, the NHS does cover ALL children's dental needs. Adults have to fork out for some of their dental sometimes, depending on what it is.
Oh sure, our dentist will hand us an application for credit with a 20% interest rate to cover our dental work, but we don't want a huge debt over our heads!
If we were considered "poor" we wouldn't have to pay one dime for dental care. A dental van would come right to our house, but since they think we make too much we are forced to either put off the work needed causing even more work needed or go into debt we would be paying on till we are near death!
Plain and simple is that the Government NOT the rich messed the system as bad as it is today. The Government gave them speical right to protect them from competing in the market and hold a monoply on people. NOW you want me to trust this same Governmet fix the problem? Fuck that. The way to fix greed is to let them compete, fail and not bail them out. What you have left is companies that offer the best at the best price. But the Free market doesn't line The Demacrat and Rep.'s Pockets does it.
Have you not watched this series of videos? You do not get value for money in the US. Not by a long shot! Your healthcare system is the joke of the developed world! Who is going to fix it? you? the fatcats running the multibillion dollar pharmaceutical corporations, the 'free market'? or perhaps the only institution that could possibly fix it, your government!
Yeah the same US government that protects Big Pharma by NOT letting outside drug companies compete. The SAME US governemt that the protects the Issurance companies from monopoly laws. The SAME US governement that prevents the people from choicing what they want by not allowing cross state competion. The governemnt of the USA is at this very moment bribing senetors with deals for there states with tax payer money to get a shitty bill that nobody seems to want. And you say TRUST them? Give it up.
I live 25 miles from DC, and at one timei thought Theyy were different. You see it up close though and you see that the only differeance between Dem's and Rep's is which Corp's are paying for there air time and lobbying for them. I vote third party cause i do want real change. It may not be what you or others want but thats my choice. Medicare is a broken and exploited system thatthe Government runs and wants expand. Yet through all this they have yet to come up with an idea on fixing it.
Last I checked the NHS of the UK has been around sence 47, put up in a country with was severly damaged do to the bombings of WWII. Its been there for most peoples lives. Im fine if your happy with it. But when I had to get emergecy help in Canada for some simple like an ashama attack, i thought i was gonna die. It took forever to get me in, then when in of an hour went by and i still had not been helped. Had someone drive me to buffalo NY. They saw me, put me in with no wait, treated me.
Its called an opinion. When a Health system almost kills you, the opinion of such a system will not be good. I have also heard from other people from America that didn't like the system ether. Its me expressing my feelings and thats all. You have your feelings and on this subject we disagree do to having to deal with 2 different systems. My system works great for me, it might not for you. I mean how many times have you dealt with the American system here to come up with your opinion?
Hearing people talk like they think its the rich peoples fault and that they have caused all the problems for America are just talking out there asses. The people that have to pay for this bullshit is the middle class. All while Corporations like the Unions, Big Pharma. Maybe while all of you are bitching about the rich, you forget its the Government that protects Medical companies with Anti trust law exemption and prevent cross state competition.
Do find Humor in people that don't live in the US telling the US what it should be doing. Im liberation so that means i view thing Different from how Republican and Democrats view things. Basically a Ron Paul type a guy. In America the Individual liberty take front stage over the comfort of the whole. The Federal Government doesn't have the power to force this on its people. No one person should give up there right for any reason for another person. The government is the problem here.
I'm glad that the health care system here in New Zealand is based on the British NHS system, and not the inefficent and socially unfair private US one - the US spend's way to much to provide so little to so few people!
Health care is as much a social and moral issue as an economic one.
Thank you for these videos! They were very well done.
While I agree that the system in the UK is better than anything we have here in the USA (or have proposed here), it simply would not work here. I work with USA government contracts so I see first hand how inefficiently they run things.
The government in the USA is too corrupt, too greedy, and too caught up in political correctness to run such a vital system. Its sad that our cultural and economic failings keep us from such a good system.
No they dont pretend to to like it they actually do like it.....Yes Universal Healthcare would be far worse! Government running health care when they already cant handle what theyre suppose to be doing!! That would be horrible. Ill trust my life to Insurance companies rather than the government anyday...Not all insurance companies do the wrong thing...most do the right thing BUT some do bad obviously. Still not enough to justify the governement running Healthcare!!
I have already clearly stated that I refuse to waste my time with you.
Perhaps when you've actually researched the subject I will speak again with you. Common sense would also have me believe that a zombie is an all powerful being.
yes taxes are higher,granted but that's down to us having completely different economic models and different natural resources but our national insurance is peanuts compared to private insurance and you are covered for everything.
Yes we're two different countries....Mine has a lot more people and a bigger army. You can keep your healthcare like it is and ill keep mine like it is...........
People like you make me embarrassed to say I am an American. My father was born and raised in Liverpool, maybe its not too late to move...I love this country, but if people like you remain a driving force then it really does have no hope.
No, I love hearing different view points. I just hate idiots who imply threats of violence or superiority by stating things such as "mine has a lot more people and a bigger army". You come off as a condescending bigot. If that was not your intent, you should be more careful with your wording in the future. If that was your intent, go troll elsewhere.
Are you a complete idiot.....I stated it has a bigger army and more people which is true. I wasnt implying anything just stating the truth! You must me clueless or something...
Why would you state we have a bigger army then? It is also true that we have far worse crime rates than most of Europe, why did you not include that random fact? Because like having a bigger army, it is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
The only logical reasons you would include that random bit of knowledge is to either imply threats or manipulate through misdirection. Neither puts you in a very good light.
So you get scared from people on youtube.........The reason I stated we have a bigger army is because it takes more money to run it! You wouldnt know that though Im sure.
when you consider the people who have to sell their homes or spend quite a substantial amount of their life savings and including people who have only limited health insurance its over 10% substantially
Actually, yes.. By your own admission the USA is a large country. 10% is a HUGE number of people.
Besides, for those 90% that do have coverage, how many have good coverage? Most people have coverage that is so poor they might as well not have any. They are certainly worse off than anyone in the UK.
The real question is that how many have coverage that is equal to or better than that in the UK? What do they have to pay for it?
Dude the real fact of the matter here is most people who have insurance like theirs. So why would they have to get worse coverage so a much smaller percent can get coverage too?? Its life my friend its not always fair and you cant please everyone.
Oh and when my mother first moved to a new state and didnt have a job she got free health care until she found one.
Worse coverage? You don't seem to understand that a lot of the coverage we do have is absolutely horrible and would be dramatically improved by a new system.
Maybe some of the higher end coverage will not be as good, I honestly don't know. The vast majority of people I know are not privileged enough to have such good coverage. What they have is practically useless.
Luckily, I do have very good coverage, though I would not mind it taking a hit if that meant evening it out a bit more for all.
Ok a new system but that system definitely wouldnt be like universal healthcare because it would make it far worse...just everyone including illegal aliens would be covered! It doesnt cost some crazy amount to have good healthcare like youre making it seem...
Actually, I'm against universal health care for the USA. I think its a great system, but unfortunately I don't think it would work here. It would be a disaster until our government is no longer bought by large corporations and people are held accountable for their own actions.
Our country is run by greed, and since only the filthy rich have a chance at holding an important political position, its not likely to change. No, we have too many other problems to deal with first.
As a Brit I genuinely believe your new President is currently a good man with good intentions (I say currently, he may yet be corrupted...)
It's well known the corporate greed and selfish interests have their hands deep into your politics but there are still individuals who simply pursue what's right and against all the odds they sometimes succeed.
I understand some healthcare reforms got through in a diluted form but it's a step in the right direction at least.
This is a good video for people who already agree that US healthcare should be nationalized...
Unfortunately, the people that don't have a problem with Corporations profiting billions off of the sick and dying, have already dismissed this guy as "one of them thare intellectual folk" and tuned out long ago.
first part................................................
i cant belive that sky would even let this clown go on and be rude about country, i think the british goverment should acctuly sanction sky if they try to lie about it, and if americans belive this crape then they are highlightng another problem i belive which is also their education system. i live in the uk and the NHS has been a huge help like, one of my mates had bad achne like the nhs accutly took him in gave
As I mentioned on an earlier video in the series, Fox News is hardly considered a credible source here in the USA. It is extremely biased and dishonest, and most of us consider it a joke, albeit one in bad taste. Really, only the nut-job extremists trying to affirm their eccentric views give it any credence.
Granted, most of the public media here is that way. The only thing that changes is who and what they support.
him drugs when these wernt good enough then then gave him stronger ones hes now got perfect skin, when talking to overseas students who had the same problem he is horrified they were unable to get this treatment!!!!
If my brother lived in America, he would have died by now. I'm so thankful for the NHS, the staff is always so lovely to my family and I, and I don't care about paying tax for it. Socialist healthcare is proven in Europe. So stuff it up yours!:D
well thats good. I live here in America and it's pretty obvious health care is on it's way. But it actually isn't "socialized" health-care it would still require payment but it would be a program headed by the government and have salary caps on the executives so the patients/customers aren't stuck paying for the CEO 100 million dollar yearly income.
"socialist" has a negative implication to Americans because alot of us (NOT including me)
are so brainwashed into thinking "socialism" is a evil tyrannical thing which it's not it simply a economic model that is applied to certain "industry" or "service" that is considered so equally important to everyone that they would rather it be regulated by the government to prevent pathological capitalist from cashing in on people's economic vulnerability, such police,fire rescue they could charge1000's$
This is a fantastic piece of work and much appreciated. You're doing the media's job for them dpr, they should be the ones providing a balanced and critical assessment of the evidence, but of course that wouldn't sell papers, attract as many viewers, or allow them to influence the debate in a manner pursuant to their right-wing editorial position.
Nice video dprjones , health care in the U.S is a fiasco to to say the least , doctors are overpaid or we are way underpaid , our insurance system is a failure .
Best Wishes to the HappyCabbie , hopefully he will get the help he deserves .
Let me try to make some economic sense for you dprjones. HappyCabbie would get treated in the UK and be able to get back to work. As soon as he gets back, a portion of his paycheck is going to contribute towards keeping the system that made him healthy (whether or not he likes it). That can be compared to taking a loan to getting cured and paying back the debt while you work. The parallel is already in the US. People are getting into debt to cure illness...
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..here reform is an excuse to get others to pay for you when you are sick. The so called rich people who apparently have more than what they need. It is foolish of course. Rich people become rich by giving people what they want. This is communism trying to make a back door entry.
Corporations and the rich benefit from the government on a much higher level than the average taxpayer. So lets not start with the "downtrodden rich people have to pay for all the mean, lazy poor people" routine, please.
And that aside, how can you think its okay to have to go into debt in order to recieve health care?? Are you saying healthcare is a priviledge?
btw, I think you should have to pay for health care on some level, but not go into debt or bankruptcy for it.
I tend to agree with that. There is corporatism in the US. Here is how I see it - we know rich people use the government for their advantage, so let us give the government power to run our lives? That is a bad move. Healthcare is neither a right nor a privilege although you might have been led to believe it. It is a resource, like food, water, clothing and housing. I do not think it is a very good idea to get into debt, it is better to live healthy and save for a rainy day.
A rainy day that may never come if you live healthy. But you could get unlucky. That is why there is insurance. Real health insurance is like accident insurance. But you might get real unlucky and even insurance might not be enough to cover costs. Or you might get real real unlucky and get a disease without a cure. The world is not perfect.
venompangx and 82abhilash sign in within 5 minutes of each other, venompangx tells me he is going to send me a private message, 5 minutes later i get a private message from 82abhilash, just a coincidence, eh ?
Regarding the other private message i received from venompangx regarding banks giving you a loan of $250,000 if you earn $20 an hour.
" They may want a level of commitment from you which takes the form of a downpayment ( mabe 20% ). That way they know you won't stick them with the bill and run once you are well. That is how banks build confidence. I hope you understand "
How many people do you think that earn $20 an hour have $50,000 to put down as a downpayment ?
No bank exists that would give you that loan. I hope you understand. What planet are you on ?
Oh dear, I sent you a PM because I did not want to spam dprjones' comment page. Not only do you insist upon it, you spread conspiracy theories, that I have no interest in debunking. I should not spend more time with you.
Wrong my friend. In UK you are born in debt. You pay it as long as you can earn, you better. But you can never pay it back completely. You pass it on to your kids. It is like being bankrupt the day you are born. And if you live a healthy life, golly you are still indebted. Just because they use different terms do not think that there is no debt. It is an illusion. It is like being born bankrupt.
Right. I am talking about taxes. The worst form of injustice there is. Politicizes everything there is and threatens the integrity of every vocation it touches. Science, health, old age, life choices, everything. Which tax funded social program runs so well in the US that you are eager to pay more? This nation was founded by tax protestors. And now you want to emulate the people they kicked out. Your ancestors must be spinning in their graves.
Why assign more responsibility to what you recognize as a piss-poor government? Would it not be better not to depend on them? You are always the best person you can depend on right?
I explained why in UK, you are bankrupt because of medical bills. In the US you still have a chance when it comes to health. The way they managed social security does not scare you?
Which bank will give you that loan? Banks that have confidence in your capacity to pay back will. And banks compete. So the only people left out will be those that spend recklessly and live unhealthly. The most irresponsible lot.
You never explained why the UK is bankrupt because of medical bills.
What bank do you know of will give you a $250,000 loan to get cured if you earn $20 an hour ? Name a bank that would be confident enough to give you that loan ?
Ok I looked at your conversation with 82abhilash. Obviously you are slow and delusional. If I am 82abhilash then dprjones is thunderf00t and I have not explained why paying taxes is like being in debt. You are like Ray Comfort, except with healthcare. I have better things to do with my time.
I sent you a message from my own account. I sent it to you just a minute back. You must have got another message. It is confusing when you are talking to many people at once. But thinking they are the same person!!!
Thank you for 5 great videoes. I learnd a lot about the british system and how easy it is for agitators to do damage whit the use of bias words and paper sheets. The demanding challenge was met with facts and you won victouriously.
He has fooled himself. I said 'you have been fooled' not 'you have fooled'. And it is obvious I have not explained here how. You want me to do that in a 500 word character count? You are the fool. You will believe anything that makes you feel good.
Yes, and by saying " you have been fooled drjones " you are saying by making this video, he is fooling us, so cut the ad hominem bullshit, how has he/we been fooled, show us the beef ?
There is data and then there is interpretation of data and in both cases you can be selective based on your biases. Which you are entitled to, except when it is used as an excuse to steal. I cannot elaborate because there is no room to elaborate here.
To you? The guy who misunderstood the simplest of statements that I wrote? It will take a whole book maybe more to correct his nonsense. Where to start? Try reading 'The Mirage of Social Justice' by Friedrich Hayek, for starters.
Yes, I am making ad hominem remarks. And you are not. And dprjones never relied on argument from authority or argument from popularity or any other logical fallacies of that sort. Have you heard of British intellect Jonathan Miller. Here is a quote from him 'Almost anything interesting takes time, it is only the idiotic and the trivial that can be done immediately.' I tend to agree. The speed with which liberals are trying to rush with 'reform' tells me they prefer the idiotic and the trivial.
" The speed with which liberals are trying to rush with " reform " tells me they prefer the idiotic and the trivial. Oh dear, more ad hominem bullshit, WTF has that idiotic comment got to do with this video. This video is about comments Hannity made about the British NHS, you fucking clown, bottom line is, you are full of wind and piss.
How has he/we been fooled ? Enlighten everybody ? 82abhilash,a legend in his own mind.
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I know you are a little slow, so I will use simple words. I will start by forgiving you for mocking me. After all I am enlightened and you are not. Now to guide you towards enlightenment. Read 'Mirage of social justice by Friedrich Hayek. Then read the health care bill, it will be law by the time you are done. But before all that you need to start with reading comprehension. Which is obviously poor. You never understood the simple words I said at the beginning. Start with reading.
What has the healthcare bill got to do with what Hannity was saying about the NHS ? How has he/we been fooled ? You seem to be dodging that question, spit it out ?
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What has the health care bill to do with reading comprehension? Well if you can't read it, then you can't understand it. Was that too hard for you to understand?
Oh i see, you didn't understand, i'll ask again, what has reading the health care bill got to do with what Hannity was saying about the NHS in this video ?
How has he/we been fooled ? You seem to be dodging that question, spit it out ? Are you not capable of backing up your claim ? Try to stick to the points made in this video, dickhead.
I said something similar to this about the Canadian system, but since this is about the NHS, I'll update a bit.
Saying the American Healthcare system is better then the British Healthcare system is like saying that Sri Lanka has better football players then the British.
exactly the point! - then we can privatize the fire dept, the police dept, the military - hell we should privatize the whole government, because the free market rules all...............Or wait: Did I just describe a Tyrannical Dictatorship?
btw - I agree with you, just having a little fun with sarcasm
About two years ago I found out that I was a type two diabetic. At the time, I was between jobs.
I contacted a medical center to hopefully get help but they wanted payment which I did not have.
Luckily, I was a military veteran and was able to get help through the veteran's administration. Those that don't have that option are in an extremely bad situation.
does the US insurance industry need to be brought under control and focused on providing payment for needed health care as opposed to profit reports for their respective board? it certainly does.
While not agreeing that economic efficiency should be the cornerstone to any reform, I do stand by the position that somebody has to pay for health care and unless you can create a system that does not drop all the bills on a select group, it is a failure.
...system! I don't even want to think what I am paying each month into a system that I have already been notified will provide me with pennies on the dollar when I retire. So I am now responsible for my own retirement as well as covering living expenses for people currently pulling social security.
I do agree that health care should not be for only those who can afford it, but don't pretend that those who are footing the bill are being selfish for complaining.
Im now days a huge fan, I couldnt agree more to what dprjones says.
Ive been calling this nonsense the US is pulling of for what it is since I was in 4th grade or something - how can life even have a value? We are diffrent, not worth diffrently.
You noted that the US spends more than any other country on health care, but didn't show any statistics on average lifespan - which would be a fair indication of how well that money is being spent.
Data available on the internet tends to agree with other sources that while the U.S. spends more, we in fact, have a shorter lifespan than those in the U.K. and other countries with socialized health care. I would be very surprised if someone came up with information that disagreed with this.
This is correct. The US spends much more on healthcare for much less effect. The US system is totally disorganised, however any efforts by Government to reorganise it properly is doomed to being thwarted by conservatives who simply don't want anything to change, who are deeply and irrationally suspicious of any efforts to improve the system, and who want to cut and/or privatise healthcare even further.
many Americans under the belief that they have good health care are real not aware of what the insurance company can do ...it seems at the drop of hat.and are paying out money on a false promise of coverage... which if the insurance company can find a loop hole ....even the smallest of one will mean denied payment All at a time when you need to be concentrating on recovery not fight legal matters
Hannity would have no problem it would seem on billions being spent on war and destruction
In one year I will graduate and my Mother's health care will no longer cover me. Chances are in the economie's current state I may not be able to get a job right away. And if I do, there is no guarantee that job will provide me with health insurance or be able to afford me health insurance. If I get sick, I am shit out of luck.
If you're graduating high school and can't find a job, find a cheap community college; you can go for a degree, and you'll be covered until you're 24.
And even if I was covered until 24, what happens when I turn 25? That doesn't fix the problem of not everyone can or will afford medical insurance, but everyone can get sick.
If a country has the ability to care for people who get sick, and not by their choice or from something that they did to themselves, then they should care for those people, regardless of how much money they make.
You are young. Cultivate healthy habits and you will long enough to get health insurance. Keep the healthy habits and you might get a discount on your premium.
Hmm...not many red thumbs. I was hoping for more opposition to these videos. Don't get me wrong, I'm Canadian and prefer what we have here to what the U.S. doesn't have there and the videos were great. But if it's a big issue for the regular american why do I only see opposition to reform on faux news and other politically motivated outlets ? cont.
In Canada, when there is an issue that will effect the whole nation, we have a referendum . Which is a national vote to decide a particular issue. Do the states have that option?
Look up medical tourism which has very little government involvement, regulation or oversight? Find something interesting?
drshlotzkin 5 months ago
But Hannity is a piece of shit and is a NEO-CON not a real conservative or right-winger (if you perform that false dichotomy).
drshlotzkin 5 months ago
And the Nazi's and their prisoners said everything was fine with Healthcare in their camps... 100% satisfaction.
drshlotzkin 5 months ago
Yeah lets show a BIASed website to show statistics about the US... Look at the damn moto - For a stronger, cleaner, fairer world economy... Holy shit that makes me want to puke. Question i want answered is; according to who? There are so many other things involved, including monetary policy and political cronyism, need for tort reform, etc. that drives up the cost of HC in the US. Its not just as simple as looking as some arbitrary statistics compiled by a group that FAVORS socialist HC.
drshlotzkin 5 months ago
If you think the US has a free-market healthcare system any argument you try to make will be horribly flawed. There is a reason the US became the richest nation with the best healthcare (before massive government involvement). Why with NO government HC spending did everyone have access to a doctor and NO one had to wait or was turned away? Not to mention sustainability w/ progression... We'll see in another 50 years.
drshlotzkin 5 months ago
Isn't the 93% statistic anecodtal evidence? I love how the NHS works, don't get me wrong. But playing devils advocate for a moment, how useful is that statistic in actually determining the quality of the NHS?
Nightmare060 1 year ago
@Nightmare060 No, the 93% stat isn't anecdotal evidence. Taking the accounts of a handful of NHS patients and presenting them as representative of the system as a whole would be anecdotal evidence but surveying a representative sample of patients with a well constructed questionaire is a pretty sound way of determining the attidute of the general public towards the NHS. You're correct that on it's own it does little to demonstrate overall quality but customer satisfaction is an important factor.
sunrise2104 1 year ago
@sunrise2104 So in which case, this statistic would suggest at the very least that the NHS has to be doing something right to keep the people happy, and would be a starting point to look into the details to perhaps get more of an idea of what determines a good or bad service?
Nightmare060 1 year ago
Considering many americans strongly view america as a christian nation, one can ask the question to these people "what would jesus do?" . I ask would jesus stand in the hospital corridore behind a desk and under a sign with the caption "billing dept " .
sprylama 1 year ago
the healthcare issues in the usa is based on race , class & a failed racist ideology that base everything on fear of non whites, religion , guns & hating the poor. the usa is slowly turning into a fascist country like Nazi germany, thanks to the conservative rightwing.
unelmitchell 1 year ago
I'm just so fuckin tired of hearing all these people say that socialist program are bad. But I bet every one of those fucks will have no problem cashing their social security check. Hypocritical cunts.
Darkconis 1 year ago 9
This bill is only a win for the insurance companies profits. They can still deny claims. So nothing was really fixed other than they have to accept preexisting conditions really. The exchange is going to be a huge waste of tax dollars that would have been better spent on a public option.
Darkconis 1 year ago
The current reform is crap. I'm a working uninsured american. And with this bill in it's current state I will not able to afford my rent. If the public opinion had still been on the table this would have been a good bill. But now it's a failure. It doesn't remove the exemption insurance companies have from anti-trust laws. This bill will not force then to compete with each other. And they get an injection of 20 to 30 million people into their system. Government fail.
Darkconis 1 year ago 2
Fox news also spend a lot of time smearing canadian helathcare which much the same story.
HaT223 1 year ago 4
@HaT223 And the Australian Healthcare system as well. I really pity Americans to have been lied to by their government and the right wing press. I am saddened and having many Friends from the USA my heart goes out to you.
franks2732 1 year ago
We need to make videos to prove that non profit organisations are better than companys,who's main objective is to create profit are better for healthcare now?...wow
Seriously,i barely trust that i'm going to get paid out on house insurance,and people actually trust insurance companys with their lives?
well you've heard the saying "better the devil you know",this is "better the devil,thats not trying to make money off your ass"
easylyt 2 years ago 2
I have emailed the White House about going after dental care as well as health care, but the response I got back had zero to do with what I wrote!
I had to wonder if a live person even reads the email sent to the White House, since the response I got back only covered the issue of health care and said nothing of the issue I brought up.
So, even with dental insurance, dentist will still charge huge amounts of money over what our insurance will cover and will see nothing wrong with it.
Mom2BTJ 2 years ago
Does the NHS cover dental as well? My husband and I have had to put off much needed dental care to make sure our children got their needs met.
We have dental insurance, but dentist here charge double what the insurance will pay out, so we are forced to put off our dental needs to make sure our children don't suffer.
We all brush twice a day and floss along with that, but we still need dental work.
Mom2BTJ 2 years ago
It does cover dental, but only necessary dental for adults on a basic level. Most people in the UK use private dental services as well as the NHS. However, the NHS does cover ALL children's dental needs. Adults have to fork out for some of their dental sometimes, depending on what it is.
MrDragon1968 2 years ago
Oh sure, our dentist will hand us an application for credit with a 20% interest rate to cover our dental work, but we don't want a huge debt over our heads!
If we were considered "poor" we wouldn't have to pay one dime for dental care. A dental van would come right to our house, but since they think we make too much we are forced to either put off the work needed causing even more work needed or go into debt we would be paying on till we are near death!
Mom2BTJ 2 years ago
As MM stated to Sean (Shemp) Hannity,"The People of the UK are laughing at You".
What MM fails to point out is all the People of the US whom
laugh at Sean Hannity,24 hours of every day and 7 days a week.
The market share for Fox News reflects the views of the American People,~24% of the population get Their opinions from Fox News.
Fox News receives advertising dollars from the Physicians
Groups and Big Pharma and Medical insurance groups,so
the impression is of a wild west snake oil show.
MrJrain 2 years ago 2
Plain and simple is that the Government NOT the rich messed the system as bad as it is today. The Government gave them speical right to protect them from competing in the market and hold a monoply on people. NOW you want me to trust this same Governmet fix the problem? Fuck that. The way to fix greed is to let them compete, fail and not bail them out. What you have left is companies that offer the best at the best price. But the Free market doesn't line The Demacrat and Rep.'s Pockets does it.
eviljagtech 2 years ago
The 'same' government?
Have you not watched this series of videos? You do not get value for money in the US. Not by a long shot! Your healthcare system is the joke of the developed world! Who is going to fix it? you? the fatcats running the multibillion dollar pharmaceutical corporations, the 'free market'? or perhaps the only institution that could possibly fix it, your government!
artyfarty2 2 years ago
Yeah the same US government that protects Big Pharma by NOT letting outside drug companies compete. The SAME US governemt that the protects the Issurance companies from monopoly laws. The SAME US governement that prevents the people from choicing what they want by not allowing cross state competion. The governemnt of the USA is at this very moment bribing senetors with deals for there states with tax payer money to get a shitty bill that nobody seems to want. And you say TRUST them? Give it up.
eviljagtech 2 years ago
"Yeah the same US government"
the same US government?
You saying that like a mantra. Yet it is different people each time. You will see change if u vote for it.
Furthermore a proper national healthcare system will break the control of the big pharms.
artyfarty2 2 years ago
I live 25 miles from DC, and at one timei thought Theyy were different. You see it up close though and you see that the only differeance between Dem's and Rep's is which Corp's are paying for there air time and lobbying for them. I vote third party cause i do want real change. It may not be what you or others want but thats my choice. Medicare is a broken and exploited system thatthe Government runs and wants expand. Yet through all this they have yet to come up with an idea on fixing it.
eviljagtech 2 years ago
Last I checked the NHS of the UK has been around sence 47, put up in a country with was severly damaged do to the bombings of WWII. Its been there for most peoples lives. Im fine if your happy with it. But when I had to get emergecy help in Canada for some simple like an ashama attack, i thought i was gonna die. It took forever to get me in, then when in of an hour went by and i still had not been helped. Had someone drive me to buffalo NY. They saw me, put me in with no wait, treated me.
eviljagtech 2 years ago
"Im fine if your happy with it."
Well I'd be a lot let happy if we had your system.
"But when I had to get emergecy help in Canada for...."
So you are extrapolating your single experience Canada to an entire healthcare system? How clever is that?
artyfarty2 2 years ago
Its called an opinion. When a Health system almost kills you, the opinion of such a system will not be good. I have also heard from other people from America that didn't like the system ether. Its me expressing my feelings and thats all. You have your feelings and on this subject we disagree do to having to deal with 2 different systems. My system works great for me, it might not for you. I mean how many times have you dealt with the American system here to come up with your opinion?
eviljagtech 2 years ago
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"how many times have you dealt with the American system "
Never. But I don't base my opinions on anecdotes. Statistics are far more reliable.
I do understand that a bad experience can jade one's view. But you should try to see past it.
artyfarty2 2 years ago
Hearing people talk like they think its the rich peoples fault and that they have caused all the problems for America are just talking out there asses. The people that have to pay for this bullshit is the middle class. All while Corporations like the Unions, Big Pharma. Maybe while all of you are bitching about the rich, you forget its the Government that protects Medical companies with Anti trust law exemption and prevent cross state competition.
eviljagtech 2 years ago
Do find Humor in people that don't live in the US telling the US what it should be doing. Im liberation so that means i view thing Different from how Republican and Democrats view things. Basically a Ron Paul type a guy. In America the Individual liberty take front stage over the comfort of the whole. The Federal Government doesn't have the power to force this on its people. No one person should give up there right for any reason for another person. The government is the problem here.
eviljagtech 2 years ago
I'm glad that the health care system here in New Zealand is based on the British NHS system, and not the inefficent and socially unfair private US one - the US spend's way to much to provide so little to so few people!
Health care is as much a social and moral issue as an economic one.
MangaFanGuy 2 years ago
Thank you for these videos! They were very well done.
While I agree that the system in the UK is better than anything we have here in the USA (or have proposed here), it simply would not work here. I work with USA government contracts so I see first hand how inefficiently they run things.
The government in the USA is too corrupt, too greedy, and too caught up in political correctness to run such a vital system. Its sad that our cultural and economic failings keep us from such a good system.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
what has happened to happy kabby is tarribly said and unjust.
(sorry if I misspeld kabbys name)
thatguywiththathair 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Most people in the US love their healthcare by the way!!!!
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
That's... not necessarily true.
maslab 2 years ago
Actually it is very true.
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
So because they like their health care, or pretend to, that means that Universal Health Care would be worse?
Please look up what the Insurance companies have been doing...
maslab 2 years ago
No they dont pretend to to like it they actually do like it.....Yes Universal Healthcare would be far worse! Government running health care when they already cant handle what theyre suppose to be doing!! That would be horrible. Ill trust my life to Insurance companies rather than the government anyday...Not all insurance companies do the wrong thing...most do the right thing BUT some do bad obviously. Still not enough to justify the governement running Healthcare!!
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
Do your research. That's all I have to say.
You obviously do not know what the difference is, and I refuse to waste my time with you.
maslab 2 years ago
Its common sense......grow a brain or get a new one I suggest!
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
I have already clearly stated that I refuse to waste my time with you.
Perhaps when you've actually researched the subject I will speak again with you. Common sense would also have me believe that a zombie is an all powerful being.
Good day.
maslab 2 years ago
I have done the research and know most people love their healthcare. Get a new argument.
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
So you want to pay twice as much as the UK for your medicine and have poorer health outcomes do you?
Rockster969 2 years ago
Your taxes are like twice as high as ours. Plus our quality of healthcare is better.
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
yes taxes are higher,granted but that's down to us having completely different economic models and different natural resources but our national insurance is peanuts compared to private insurance and you are covered for everything.
Rockster969 2 years ago
Yes we're two different countries....Mine has a lot more people and a bigger army. You can keep your healthcare like it is and ill keep mine like it is...........
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
People like you make me embarrassed to say I am an American. My father was born and raised in Liverpool, maybe its not too late to move...I love this country, but if people like you remain a driving force then it really does have no hope.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
Oh so you dont like people with rational thinking or different view points? You better get out then, actually run!
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
No, I love hearing different view points. I just hate idiots who imply threats of violence or superiority by stating things such as "mine has a lot more people and a bigger army". You come off as a condescending bigot. If that was not your intent, you should be more careful with your wording in the future. If that was your intent, go troll elsewhere.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
Are you a complete idiot.....I stated it has a bigger army and more people which is true. I wasnt implying anything just stating the truth! You must me clueless or something...
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
Why would you state we have a bigger army then? It is also true that we have far worse crime rates than most of Europe, why did you not include that random fact? Because like having a bigger army, it is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
The only logical reasons you would include that random bit of knowledge is to either imply threats or manipulate through misdirection. Neither puts you in a very good light.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
So you get scared from people on youtube.........The reason I stated we have a bigger army is because it takes more money to run it! You wouldnt know that though Im sure.
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker yet a large proportion of the usas population has no access to healthcare or if they do its very limited
excandersham 2 years ago
10% is a large portion.......
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
when you consider the people who have to sell their homes or spend quite a substantial amount of their life savings and including people who have only limited health insurance its over 10% substantially
excandersham 2 years ago
Thats where you would be wrong I think.
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
Actually, yes.. By your own admission the USA is a large country. 10% is a HUGE number of people.
Besides, for those 90% that do have coverage, how many have good coverage? Most people have coverage that is so poor they might as well not have any. They are certainly worse off than anyone in the UK.
The real question is that how many have coverage that is equal to or better than that in the UK? What do they have to pay for it?
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
Dude the real fact of the matter here is most people who have insurance like theirs. So why would they have to get worse coverage so a much smaller percent can get coverage too?? Its life my friend its not always fair and you cant please everyone.
Oh and when my mother first moved to a new state and didnt have a job she got free health care until she found one.
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
Worse coverage? You don't seem to understand that a lot of the coverage we do have is absolutely horrible and would be dramatically improved by a new system.
Maybe some of the higher end coverage will not be as good, I honestly don't know. The vast majority of people I know are not privileged enough to have such good coverage. What they have is practically useless.
Luckily, I do have very good coverage, though I would not mind it taking a hit if that meant evening it out a bit more for all.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
Ok a new system but that system definitely wouldnt be like universal healthcare because it would make it far worse...just everyone including illegal aliens would be covered! It doesnt cost some crazy amount to have good healthcare like youre making it seem...
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
@UndercoverCracker
Actually, I'm against universal health care for the USA. I think its a great system, but unfortunately I don't think it would work here. It would be a disaster until our government is no longer bought by large corporations and people are held accountable for their own actions.
Our country is run by greed, and since only the filthy rich have a chance at holding an important political position, its not likely to change. No, we have too many other problems to deal with first.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
As a Brit I genuinely believe your new President is currently a good man with good intentions (I say currently, he may yet be corrupted...)
It's well known the corporate greed and selfish interests have their hands deep into your politics but there are still individuals who simply pursue what's right and against all the odds they sometimes succeed.
I understand some healthcare reforms got through in a diluted form but it's a step in the right direction at least.
intruder313 2 years ago
don't talk shit,most folk don't have healthcare.
Rockster969 2 years ago 3
Actually most do!
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
This is a good video for people who already agree that US healthcare should be nationalized...
Unfortunately, the people that don't have a problem with Corporations profiting billions off of the sick and dying, have already dismissed this guy as "one of them thare intellectual folk" and tuned out long ago.
It's still a great vid, tho. And every bit helps.
antifaith82 2 years ago 19
Thank you for informing.
Hopefully this will sway the opinion of those who believe everything hannity or fox in general has to say on the NHS.
I've already done my research prior to this whole debate.
anonymous0s0egion 2 years ago
first part................................................
i cant belive that sky would even let this clown go on and be rude about country, i think the british goverment should acctuly sanction sky if they try to lie about it, and if americans belive this crape then they are highlightng another problem i belive which is also their education system. i live in the uk and the NHS has been a huge help like, one of my mates had bad achne like the nhs accutly took him in gave
pdmspencer 2 years ago
As I mentioned on an earlier video in the series, Fox News is hardly considered a credible source here in the USA. It is extremely biased and dishonest, and most of us consider it a joke, albeit one in bad taste. Really, only the nut-job extremists trying to affirm their eccentric views give it any credence.
Granted, most of the public media here is that way. The only thing that changes is who and what they support.
LuthaisBC 2 years ago
part end.......................
him drugs when these wernt good enough then then gave him stronger ones hes now got perfect skin, when talking to overseas students who had the same problem he is horrified they were unable to get this treatment!!!!
pdmspencer 2 years ago
If my brother lived in America, he would have died by now. I'm so thankful for the NHS, the staff is always so lovely to my family and I, and I don't care about paying tax for it. Socialist healthcare is proven in Europe. So stuff it up yours!:D
zeezeegabor 2 years ago
well thats good. I live here in America and it's pretty obvious health care is on it's way. But it actually isn't "socialized" health-care it would still require payment but it would be a program headed by the government and have salary caps on the executives so the patients/customers aren't stuck paying for the CEO 100 million dollar yearly income.
jjason55740 2 years ago
well sounds like u should socialise it lol :)
pdmspencer 2 years ago
"socialist" has a negative implication to Americans because alot of us (NOT including me)
are so brainwashed into thinking "socialism" is a evil tyrannical thing which it's not it simply a economic model that is applied to certain "industry" or "service" that is considered so equally important to everyone that they would rather it be regulated by the government to prevent pathological capitalist from cashing in on people's economic vulnerability, such police,fire rescue they could charge1000's$
jjason55740 2 years ago
The public all pays for the healthcare system in Europe.....so its not free!
UndercoverCracker 2 years ago
Awesome series DPR, thankyou.
O2BSoLucky 2 years ago
Don't forget cruel and selfish.
mrx0066600 2 years ago
This is a fantastic piece of work and much appreciated. You're doing the media's job for them dpr, they should be the ones providing a balanced and critical assessment of the evidence, but of course that wouldn't sell papers, attract as many viewers, or allow them to influence the debate in a manner pursuant to their right-wing editorial position.
m1ll10n1977 2 years ago 2
Nice video dprjones , health care in the U.S is a fiasco to to say the least , doctors are overpaid or we are way underpaid , our insurance system is a failure .
Best Wishes to the HappyCabbie , hopefully he will get the help he deserves .
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ihatecoughland66601 2 years ago
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paullawrencegrundy 2 years ago
Let me try to make some economic sense for you dprjones. HappyCabbie would get treated in the UK and be able to get back to work. As soon as he gets back, a portion of his paycheck is going to contribute towards keeping the system that made him healthy (whether or not he likes it). That can be compared to taking a loan to getting cured and paying back the debt while you work. The parallel is already in the US. People are getting into debt to cure illness...
venompangx 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
..here reform is an excuse to get others to pay for you when you are sick. The so called rich people who apparently have more than what they need. It is foolish of course. Rich people become rich by giving people what they want. This is communism trying to make a back door entry.
venompangx 2 years ago
Corporations and the rich benefit from the government on a much higher level than the average taxpayer. So lets not start with the "downtrodden rich people have to pay for all the mean, lazy poor people" routine, please.
And that aside, how can you think its okay to have to go into debt in order to recieve health care?? Are you saying healthcare is a priviledge?
btw, I think you should have to pay for health care on some level, but not go into debt or bankruptcy for it.
TZ3k 2 years ago
I tend to agree with that. There is corporatism in the US. Here is how I see it - we know rich people use the government for their advantage, so let us give the government power to run our lives? That is a bad move. Healthcare is neither a right nor a privilege although you might have been led to believe it. It is a resource, like food, water, clothing and housing. I do not think it is a very good idea to get into debt, it is better to live healthy and save for a rainy day.
venompangx 2 years ago
A rainy day that may never come if you live healthy. But you could get unlucky. That is why there is insurance. Real health insurance is like accident insurance. But you might get real unlucky and even insurance might not be enough to cover costs. Or you might get real real unlucky and get a disease without a cure. The world is not perfect.
venompangx 2 years ago
venompangx
venompangx and 82abhilash sign in within 5 minutes of each other, venompangx tells me he is going to send me a private message, 5 minutes later i get a private message from 82abhilash, just a coincidence, eh ?
Regarding the other private message i received from venompangx regarding banks giving you a loan of $250,000 if you earn $20 an hour.
larsontic 2 years ago
Cont
" They may want a level of commitment from you which takes the form of a downpayment ( mabe 20% ). That way they know you won't stick them with the bill and run once you are well. That is how banks build confidence. I hope you understand "
How many people do you think that earn $20 an hour have $50,000 to put down as a downpayment ?
No bank exists that would give you that loan. I hope you understand. What planet are you on ?
larsontic 2 years ago
Cont
Nobody can go bankrupt in the UK because of medical bills. have you no comment about that ?
Who pays for medicaid in the US ?
larsontic 2 years ago
Ok, you need to send me that question as a PM before I will even think to respond.
venompangx 2 years ago
Oh dear, I sent you a PM because I did not want to spam dprjones' comment page. Not only do you insist upon it, you spread conspiracy theories, that I have no interest in debunking. I should not spend more time with you.
venompangx 2 years ago
So you didn't think you were spamming dprjones comment page when you posted the idiotic comment ?
If you want to respond, just do it here and give everybody a laugh, like you did with bank loan.
Keep squirting water out of your lapel Coco.
larsontic 2 years ago
My time is precious. You are just not worth it.
venompangx 2 years ago
Keep blowing smoke out of your ass.
larsontic 2 years ago
" That can be compared to taking a loan to getting cured and paying back the debt while you work "
Say you earn $20 an hour, and it costs you $250,000 to cure you. What bank do you know of that would give you that loan ?
In the UK you will not go bankrupt because of medical bills.
larsontic 2 years ago
Wrong my friend. In UK you are born in debt. You pay it as long as you can earn, you better. But you can never pay it back completely. You pass it on to your kids. It is like being bankrupt the day you are born. And if you live a healthy life, golly you are still indebted. Just because they use different terms do not think that there is no debt. It is an illusion. It is like being born bankrupt.
venompangx 2 years ago
". You pay it as long as you can earn, you better."
Are you talking about taxes? Last I checked we pay taxes too.
zet168 2 years ago
Right. I am talking about taxes. The worst form of injustice there is. Politicizes everything there is and threatens the integrity of every vocation it touches. Science, health, old age, life choices, everything. Which tax funded social program runs so well in the US that you are eager to pay more? This nation was founded by tax protestors. And now you want to emulate the people they kicked out. Your ancestors must be spinning in their graves.
venompangx 2 years ago
"Which tax funded social program runs so well in the US that you are eager to pay more?"
I think the US government is piss-poor in many areas that's why I support reform.
"Your ancestors must be spinning in their graves. "
.......My ancestors were slaves.
zet168 2 years ago
Why assign more responsibility to what you recognize as a piss-poor government? Would it not be better not to depend on them? You are always the best person you can depend on right?
venompangx 2 years ago
We pay taxes whether you like it or not. The only difference between the US and UK in that regard is the services we get in return.
zet168 2 years ago
Precisely. The US was never meant to be a welfare state. Which is why it does such a bad job when it tries to be one. It must be obvious by now.
venompangx 2 years ago
What bank do you know of that would give you that loan ?
In the UK you will not go bankrupt because of medical bills.
" In UK you are born in debt "
And you are not in the USA ?
larsontic 2 years ago
I explained why in UK, you are bankrupt because of medical bills. In the US you still have a chance when it comes to health. The way they managed social security does not scare you?
Which bank will give you that loan? Banks that have confidence in your capacity to pay back will. And banks compete. So the only people left out will be those that spend recklessly and live unhealthly. The most irresponsible lot.
venompangx 2 years ago
You never explained why the UK is bankrupt because of medical bills.
What bank do you know of will give you a $250,000 loan to get cured if you earn $20 an hour ? Name a bank that would be confident enough to give you that loan ?
" In the UK you are born in debt "
And you are not in the USA ?
Are you 82abhilash ?
larsontic 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Ok I looked at your conversation with 82abhilash. Obviously you are slow and delusional. If I am 82abhilash then dprjones is thunderf00t and I have not explained why paying taxes is like being in debt. You are like Ray Comfort, except with healthcare. I have better things to do with my time.
venompangx 2 years ago
You've still not explained why the UK is bankrupt because of medical bills ?
Name a bank that would be confident enough to give you that loan ?
And you are not in the USA ?
Like 82abhilash you have a habit of ignoring questions about backing up the claims you make.
larsontic 2 years ago
Oh dear, do I have to spell it all out to you? I will send you a private message.
venompangx 2 years ago
venompangx
Sending me that private message on your 82abhilash account wasn't to clever, eh ? Can we call it a schoolboy error ?
larsontic 2 years ago
I sent you a message from my own account. I sent it to you just a minute back. You must have got another message. It is confusing when you are talking to many people at once. But thinking they are the same person!!!
venompangx 2 years ago
Thank you for 5 great videoes. I learnd a lot about the british system and how easy it is for agitators to do damage whit the use of bias words and paper sheets. The demanding challenge was met with facts and you won victouriously.
2112xanaduu 2 years ago
I think this is one of the best series of videos I've seen on youtube about the subject.
Your rescources are clear and accesable to those that don't agree or don't believe you. So, they can inform themselves.
I never understood americans being against healthcare from an ideological point of view.
And why is it sold as something evil with scare tactics and lies??
ratje67 2 years ago
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You have been fooled dprjones. But you will find a willing flock here.
82abhilash 2 years ago
82abhilash
You've still to explain how dprjones has fooled us ?
Keep squirting water out of your lapel, Coco.
larsontic 2 years ago
He has fooled himself. I said 'you have been fooled' not 'you have fooled'. And it is obvious I have not explained here how. You want me to do that in a 500 word character count? You are the fool. You will believe anything that makes you feel good.
82abhilash 2 years ago
You said " You have been fooled ", so i will ask again, how has dprjones fooled us ?
Cut the ad hominem bullshit, show us the beef ?
Keep squirting water out of your lapel, Coco.
larsontic 2 years ago
Boy you are dumb. I said, 'You have been fooled dprjones'. I was addressing him.
82abhilash 2 years ago
Yes, and by saying " you have been fooled drjones " you are saying by making this video, he is fooling us, so cut the ad hominem bullshit, how has he/we been fooled, show us the beef ?
larsontic 2 years ago
It takes a vivid imagination to find that meaning in my words. You must be delusional.
82abhilash 2 years ago
By all means elaborate. Exactly by what and how has he been fooled? Unlike Hannity, DPR provides his sources and represents them accurately.
Bookwyrm86 2 years ago
There is data and then there is interpretation of data and in both cases you can be selective based on your biases. Which you are entitled to, except when it is used as an excuse to steal. I cannot elaborate because there is no room to elaborate here.
82abhilash 2 years ago
Show us the beef ?
How has he/we been fooled ?
larsontic 2 years ago
To you? The guy who misunderstood the simplest of statements that I wrote? It will take a whole book maybe more to correct his nonsense. Where to start? Try reading 'The Mirage of Social Justice' by Friedrich Hayek, for starters.
82abhilash 2 years ago
Oh dear, more ad hominem bullshit. Show us the beef ? How has he/we been fooled ?
Or is it a case of you're full of wind and piss and you're not capable ? Scared of bruising your fragile ego ? Stick to sucking HTWW dick, you clown.
larsontic 2 years ago
Yes, I am making ad hominem remarks. And you are not. And dprjones never relied on argument from authority or argument from popularity or any other logical fallacies of that sort. Have you heard of British intellect Jonathan Miller. Here is a quote from him 'Almost anything interesting takes time, it is only the idiotic and the trivial that can be done immediately.' I tend to agree. The speed with which liberals are trying to rush with 'reform' tells me they prefer the idiotic and the trivial.
82abhilash 2 years ago
" The speed with which liberals are trying to rush with " reform " tells me they prefer the idiotic and the trivial. Oh dear, more ad hominem bullshit, WTF has that idiotic comment got to do with this video. This video is about comments Hannity made about the British NHS, you fucking clown, bottom line is, you are full of wind and piss.
How has he/we been fooled ? Enlighten everybody ? 82abhilash,a legend in his own mind.
Keep squirting water out of your lapel, Coco.
larsontic 2 years ago
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I know you are a little slow, so I will use simple words. I will start by forgiving you for mocking me. After all I am enlightened and you are not. Now to guide you towards enlightenment. Read 'Mirage of social justice by Friedrich Hayek. Then read the health care bill, it will be law by the time you are done. But before all that you need to start with reading comprehension. Which is obviously poor. You never understood the simple words I said at the beginning. Start with reading.
82abhilash 2 years ago
Reading comprehension ?
What has the healthcare bill got to do with what Hannity was saying about the NHS ? How has he/we been fooled ? You seem to be dodging that question, spit it out ?
larsontic 2 years ago 2
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What has the health care bill to do with reading comprehension? Well if you can't read it, then you can't understand it. Was that too hard for you to understand?
82abhilash 2 years ago
Oh i see, you didn't understand, i'll ask again, what has reading the health care bill got to do with what Hannity was saying about the NHS in this video ?
How has he/we been fooled ? You seem to be dodging that question, spit it out ? Are you not capable of backing up your claim ? Try to stick to the points made in this video, dickhead.
larsontic 2 years ago
You are just looking for excuses to smear me. I do not want to talk to you any more.
82abhilash 2 years ago
Like your hero HTWW, you are a fucking pathetic coward.
larsontic 2 years ago 3
There you go again, Mr. Smear. HTWW works is not my hero by the way. We just agree on some things.
82abhilash 2 years ago
Stop your whining, you pathetic cunt. Put up, or shut up.
larsontic 2 years ago
And you do it again. Proving my point once again. I am on a roll. You keep it up.
82abhilash 2 years ago
I said something similar to this about the Canadian system, but since this is about the NHS, I'll update a bit.
Saying the American Healthcare system is better then the British Healthcare system is like saying that Sri Lanka has better football players then the British.
andrewisgood 2 years ago
I find the style of the video keeps my attention. The content is very well explained to be as objective as possible.
Great Job,
MexxPowers 2 years ago
Thanks for a very informative video series, dpr. Members of Congress should be required to view these videos.
rwbltd01 2 years ago
If you consider healthcare a fundamental human right, privatising it is almost as bizare as privatising the judicial system.
DeusMortemEst 2 years ago 6
exactly the point! - then we can privatize the fire dept, the police dept, the military - hell we should privatize the whole government, because the free market rules all...............Or wait: Did I just describe a Tyrannical Dictatorship?
btw - I agree with you, just having a little fun with sarcasm
TZ3k 2 years ago 2
Absolutely fantastic work, DPR!
somtwo 2 years ago
I don't usually post long posts
About two years ago I found out that I was a type two diabetic. At the time, I was between jobs.
I contacted a medical center to hopefully get help but they wanted payment which I did not have.
Luckily, I was a military veteran and was able to get help through the veteran's administration. Those that don't have that option are in an extremely bad situation.
KitsuneVoss 2 years ago 3
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Health care should be completely privatised.
VanDoodah 2 years ago
And that will reduce health care costs because people have a disincentive towards making bad health decisions.
82abhilash 2 years ago
does the US insurance industry need to be brought under control and focused on providing payment for needed health care as opposed to profit reports for their respective board? it certainly does.
While not agreeing that economic efficiency should be the cornerstone to any reform, I do stand by the position that somebody has to pay for health care and unless you can create a system that does not drop all the bills on a select group, it is a failure.
Look at our social security....
1n354a 2 years ago
...system! I don't even want to think what I am paying each month into a system that I have already been notified will provide me with pennies on the dollar when I retire. So I am now responsible for my own retirement as well as covering living expenses for people currently pulling social security.
I do agree that health care should not be for only those who can afford it, but don't pretend that those who are footing the bill are being selfish for complaining.
1n354a 2 years ago
*applause*
Im now days a huge fan, I couldnt agree more to what dprjones says.
Ive been calling this nonsense the US is pulling of for what it is since I was in 4th grade or something - how can life even have a value? We are diffrent, not worth diffrently.
Good work dprjones, keep it up!
mammacatta 2 years ago
You noted that the US spends more than any other country on health care, but didn't show any statistics on average lifespan - which would be a fair indication of how well that money is being spent.
Data available on the internet tends to agree with other sources that while the U.S. spends more, we in fact, have a shorter lifespan than those in the U.K. and other countries with socialized health care. I would be very surprised if someone came up with information that disagreed with this.
Abzu93 2 years ago
This is correct. The US spends much more on healthcare for much less effect. The US system is totally disorganised, however any efforts by Government to reorganise it properly is doomed to being thwarted by conservatives who simply don't want anything to change, who are deeply and irrationally suspicious of any efforts to improve the system, and who want to cut and/or privatise healthcare even further.
dutchroll 2 years ago 3
@TemperaMagenta: Are you talking about the baby in th video when you say 6 weeks premature? If so, you have your maths wrong.
A 21-week pregnancy is approximately 5 months, so roughly half way through a full 9 month term. That is very different from 6 weeks premature.
Apologies if you were referring to another comment, I couldn't find it if you were.
ClearVista 2 years ago
No - she was referring to someone else.
ThSkBj 2 years ago
I was referring to
mecher3k's comment. ^^
TemperaMagenta 2 years ago
many Americans under the belief that they have good health care are real not aware of what the insurance company can do ...it seems at the drop of hat.and are paying out money on a false promise of coverage... which if the insurance company can find a loop hole ....even the smallest of one will mean denied payment All at a time when you need to be concentrating on recovery not fight legal matters
Hannity would have no problem it would seem on billions being spent on war and destruction
AmericanResponses 2 years ago 2
Yeah. Paying into insurance for 20 years just to be dropped over forgetting to let them know you had asthma when you were 6 is a bitch.
Greywyn7 2 years ago 4
In one year I will graduate and my Mother's health care will no longer cover me. Chances are in the economie's current state I may not be able to get a job right away. And if I do, there is no guarantee that job will provide me with health insurance or be able to afford me health insurance. If I get sick, I am shit out of luck.
And that thought terrifies me.
CheatTerra 2 years ago
High school, or college?
If you're graduating high school and can't find a job, find a cheap community college; you can go for a degree, and you'll be covered until you're 24.
Greywyn7 2 years ago
I am graduating from a university.
And even if I was covered until 24, what happens when I turn 25? That doesn't fix the problem of not everyone can or will afford medical insurance, but everyone can get sick.
If a country has the ability to care for people who get sick, and not by their choice or from something that they did to themselves, then they should care for those people, regardless of how much money they make.
CheatTerra 2 years ago
A lot can happen in four years; you could meet someone who's hiring, the degree could make it easier to find a job, etc.
Greywyn7 2 years ago
You are young. Cultivate healthy habits and you will long enough to get health insurance. Keep the healthy habits and you might get a discount on your premium.
82abhilash 2 years ago
oh, sorry to hear that
coolintruddle 2 years ago
Hmm...not many red thumbs. I was hoping for more opposition to these videos. Don't get me wrong, I'm Canadian and prefer what we have here to what the U.S. doesn't have there and the videos were great. But if it's a big issue for the regular american why do I only see opposition to reform on faux news and other politically motivated outlets ? cont.
coolintruddle 2 years ago
In Canada, when there is an issue that will effect the whole nation, we have a referendum . Which is a national vote to decide a particular issue. Do the states have that option?
coolintruddle 2 years ago
Because YT caters to niche audiences.
82abhilash 2 years ago
dprjones more like dprPWNS
fishbone937 2 years ago 4