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  • Nice place ;)

  • nice vid!

  • Does anyone have any info on these Iron Phosphate packs

  • yeah my lipo battery exploded on my bed when i was chargen it

  • @jaxzf

    omg you charged it on your bed...... it says everywhere charge 2 feet away from anything flamable on a concrete surface. unless your ready for the risks with lipo's you shouldnt be using them.

  • You can buy A123 cells directly from a123systems.

    Or you can find the relavent cordless hand tool powerpack like De-Walt, and strip that down. Don't ask exactly which one though, as I don't yet know. ;-)

  • Lipo for RC cars definitely. (Lithium Polymer)

  • which batteries are better lipo or lithium-ion

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  • lipo is lithium polymer

    lithium ion is a bit different

  • which is better??

  • isnt lipo short for lithium polymer

  • Lipo puts more power out for a longer time, but is dangerious (ie, explodeing) Liion is much safer but less power out put.

  • ok thanks

  • your welcome, but there is also the new LIFE which is a Lithium Iron, it puts out the same amount of power as a lipo but not explosive. and not as dangerous. ***But*** it costs twice as much as a A123 pack (liion) and 3 times as much as a Lipo pack... BIG DOWNSIDE!

  • greeat i would go for LIFE then if money wasnt a problem

    but i think ill just stick to buying a lipo but take heaps of caution when charging

    thanks

  • hey retard i thought the LiFe were the same as the A123 but just kind of an upgraded version but possibley mistaken on that......... however they are not as powerfull this i know not the volt significantly less

  • @WarhawkLegend69 NOpe...

    A123 are Li-ion, LiFe and lithum phosphate. i think

  • 2:30 i just felt like saying that

  • where did u get the a123 from

  • what is 123

  • a123 is a lithium-ion battery

  • A 3S 11.1 5000 Mah Lipo is the only way to go!!!!

    You can go 8000 but it weighs a bit more and can slow the car down.

  • Does it not say on the traxxas site that it needs an 8000mah battery to reach higher speeds? Have a look.

  • I have tried an 8000mah battey but have found that with that much speed/power, you end up sacrificing control and handling.

    I like to go as fast as the next guy, but I would rather have control of my car. So I go with a little less power (5000mah) and less weight.

    I keep up with my friend's 8000 battery car all day with my 5000 battery.

  • Ahh ok. Did you mean slow down as in lossing handling?

    Thanks! Im aobut to buy lipos for my slash atm.

  • While driving my car with an 8000 Lipo battery I found that I would loose control when I hit full throttle. It would do a wheelie, dance on its rear wheels and then cart wheel and crash (all within about1 second).

    With the 5000 lipo I can keep up with my friends cuz they end up slowing down for corners or loose control when they tried to launch down a stright away.

    Its all fun no matter what battery you are running, I am quite happy with my 5000 Lipo.

    Plus 5000 Lipos are cheaper than 8000!

  • Hey buddy, news flash.....mAh has nothing to do with power/punch output voltage. mAh is simply the battery's capacity. The mAh shows you how long the battery will last when running it. ie-a 5000mah will last longer than a 3000mah. The amount of cells in the battery and the "C" rating give the battery it's punch and power.

  • what he said

  • @monster271 You do realise that mah * C rating = total OUTPUT amps?? So yes, the mah DOES matter when referring to punch.

    It is why you cant/shouldnt use a 2200mah 20C in an offroad car, but it is fine to use a 5000mah 20C in the same car - and I'm not just talking about runtimes.

  • @locksmack Well, if that's so, I sure can't tell the difference in punch between my 1800mah and my 3800mah all the way up to a 5000mah. But I can tell the difference between a 30c battery and a 40c. Just my opinion.

  • @monster271 News flash...mAh has a lot to do with output. No it has nothing to do with voltage because amperage and voltage are two different things but amperage is "Off the line punch" and voltage is "speed". A 5000mAh 20C 2S puts out more amperage than a 4000mAh 20C 4S. Thats what these bigger brushless motors rely on is amperage more than voltage i.e. Mamba Monster. they rely more on torque than voltage to get those bigger trucks moving.

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  • @monster271 Sorry if i offend you.

  • @UGotKilledByACamper ....monster is an ignorant idiot look what i said cuz i didnt see that you already handled it..lol

  • @07STINKYBOY Haha, hes a dumbass.

  • @UGotKilledByACamper That must be why my comment got top rated?

  • @monster271 haha yea dude, to show other people how much of a dumbass you are...Again, sorry if i offended you.

  • @UGotKilledByACamper What's with all the name calling? What are you? 4 years old? I guess if I was 4 too, I would cry I guess. Man, if you would listen, you might get down off your high horse and learn something. Can you not comprehend a simple thing??

  • @monster271 Lol, well appearantly youre in the same boat i am. before you post stuff and point out other people are wrong, think first and actually aquire some knowlegde in that itty bitty brain of yours, before you start posting stuff that your oblivious too, like rc batteries.

  • @monster271 what the fuck are you retarted? The "C" rating you are talking about is the currents @ discharge...the c has no affect in power ....the more S's and amount of volts in a lipo and more mah=milliamp hours affect the speed and run time you ingnorant ... perfect example ... an 11.1v 3c 8000mah 20c lipo will have 150% more power than a 7.4v 2s 4000mah 35c lipo...i bet you dont have a lipo powered car... even if you do gimme ur email so i can show you what a real r/c truck looks like.

  • @07STINKYBOY I realize that. Of course the more CELLS you add, the more power you will get. Do you understand that the "S" after a 1,2,3,4,5, or 6 refers to the number of CELLS in the battery? Not the discharge rate. The C rating is power at discharge ("C burst"). That's the power I'm referring to. I will get more power out of a 7.4v 2s 5000mah 40c lipo than with a 7.4v 2s 5000mah 30c. I realize I was wrong in my first comment about milliamps. Not sure what I meant to type....

  • @07STINKYBOY Oh, and let's get one thing straight without all the immature name calling. I have 5 Lithium Polymer powered RC cars. They are all race cars that I race at our local tracks. I don't bash. I build all my cars from kits. I used to MAKE all my NiMH batteries. I help build my friend's vehicles as well. We race on a regular basis, and have for a long time. I've seen it all. I have seen LiPos blow up, and over the time I've been racing, I've owned well over 50 LiPos.

  • @monster271 what cars do you have then some frickin gay hpi or losi shit...hahaha

    idk why u have ownd over 50 lipos ive never busted one...cause its called a good charger and you should never balance your lipos....i know it gives it morer run time but...it makes them last forever ...(why put currents where the currents dont want do go?) thats how i look at it....my DH bike , my motorcycle, my truck, and my r/c cars are are all better taken care of and are better than yours mister bigshot.....

  • @07STINKYBOY Ok. Yeah. All hail the mighty STINKYBOY. His toy cars are all perfect! Let it be known that all of STINKY'S cars are better than everyone elses!!!! I've owned over 50 lipos because I test them. I will buy them, my friends and I will run them, then sell them. Now, I do have some that I've had since lipos came out! I have a Hyperion EOS0615I charger. I always balance my batteries. Lithium Polymers need to be balanced. I'm no bigshot. That's YOU Mr. High Horse.

  • @monster271 HAHA are you kiddin me man? look at your page....hahah what a joke dont turn this around on me ERIC... your the one posting crap...now we just f'd up this guys vido...lol....pretty funny ...look alll the comments we posted lol...hahahahA

  • @07STINKYBOY The excessive comments actually help his videos. That's why people always ask for people to comment in case you haven't noticed. And, I'm not Eric. He's the creator of this account. But I'll pass on your message for you.

  • @monster271 not in lipos thats only in nickel metal hidrides....and c's have nothing do do with power i have an old venom pack from 2007 and its a 3c 11.1v 4700mah 15c pack and has more power than my orion 3s1p 3800mah 11.1v 20c pack...

  • @monster271 well, i would agree with you, but more mAh usualy does give some extra power. I have 2 traxxas batteries, both same everything except the mah and i get a little more power out of my 4200 than my 3000

  • @glo160 Thanks for the civilized reply. Everyone else just bit my head off. ahaha. I agree with you if you are talking about NiMH or NiCad batteries. :)

  • @monster271 Ha, yea anything for a rustler owner lol, im going to be getting a vxl for christmas, hope i get to drive it outside before it snows to much lol

  • @monster271 well going from a 1000mah to a 6000mah will actually increase speed but not that much. more power to the esc per hour

  • @monster271 ok yes it is true that a 5000 will last longer than a 3000... but c is the output of the battery times however many c's ex. a 5300 65c lipo has a output of 344500 mah then a 4000 mah 65c lipo has only 260000 mah miliamps an hour so the 5300 is a more powerful battery than a 4000 battery or a 4000mah 7c 7cell is more powerful than a 3600mah 7c 7 cell

  • Agreed. lipo or nothing!!

  • thats pretty ba

  • heyy about how fast does ur car go with that battery in and also how much did the battery cost?

  • you can get a 3800mah 7.2 volt battery for around $34 i got a 2 pack for $64

  • great vid im getin one of these with a 3s 2c 11v battery.

  • Love the slo-mo. Nice driving and camera work!

  • yea it does ive got one its stock it is a great truck and tyhe stock shock system is pretty good this vid is sick

  • does the rustler have a good stock shock system

  • the caps will eventaly strip its threads so yea i just got aluminum caps

  • yea they took the shock system from jato 3.3 its the same

  • is it brush less and what battery is it

  • yes its brushless its a vxl and battery read description duh. A123 9.9V pack

  • I m not using any charger. I am going to buy one

  • u dont have a charger u cant race it

  • What charger are you using?

    Do you like the LiFe??

  • How much time does it take to charge that and how much time does it run for

  • Heck no!!! You can't buy anything this sophisticated at any supermarket. You have to go to a REAL hobby shop and pay REAL money for one of these.

    TRAXXAS CARS ROCK!!!

  • what r u a dumb ass

  • Whats the best RC truck for under $100?

  • none really

  • i agree

  • For under $100 you'll have to buy something used of ebay or from your local classified ads. Try going to a local RC racing club for some advice before you buy aything. For truchs like the one in the vid, you'll still be paying 300/400 used!

    Hope this helps. ;-)

  • for that vxl rustler used... probably 200 not 400 dude...

  • Hmm, Yeah you're right. 200 used tops, as they're 230 ish retail. My brain was telling me it was a 1/8th Truggy. :-D

  • or a micro t

  • im trying to decide a rustler a revo can't decide tough choice

  • look at 1:19 the front wheel lol

  • ahhaha i cant beleive it didnt break.

  • im thinking of upgarding my xl-5 to xvl smart move are not

  • yea i think so if you put a good li po you can prob hit like 50mph or more which is amazing

  • but u will need metal gears in your tranny

  • should i upgrade my old rustler xl5 to vxl?

  • no.

  • yes brushless is the new rage i have a vxl rustler and it is so much fun

    you will want to get lipo to unleash all the brushless power

    i suggest a mamba max 4600

  • i got the xl-5 but its "not in shape" anymore. one wheel spinning faster than the other and the top speed on 3300 mah 7.2 V is about 10-15 mph so i dont bother upgrading it. instead im gonna by a vxl with a 4900 mah 11.1 V 3s 25 c lipo.

  • check out spec point concepts lipo batteries they are the best vale in lipo and perform great

  • Yes.

  • This is why I love Traxxas so much!

  • Nice vid man!

  • next time NO MUSIC

  • about how fast is that?

  • sure would be nice to be able to hear the motor

  • bro... i could not agree more with ya!! I think all these people take time putting music in these rc videos when all i REALLY want to hear is the actual car/truck, and the motor.. FRUSTRATING.... augghhhhhhhhhhh

  • ive got stampede

  • wow thats snappy

  • AHH .....camera.. lol ..hate it when that happens

  • lucky i only could afford the normal rustler, but im saving up to upgrade a TON and i mean a TON of parts. i want to put $300-400 into it over the next few months

  • you can get a brand new rustler and a lipo for that much

  • AAAH I can't wait, I'm getting my VXL Friday XD

  • i may sound like stoopid but wats a123 i no wa nimh lipos and all those other ones but wats a123 is it cheapre then lipo batter then lipo

  • a123 is a different technology to lipo that can give out as much power is tougher can charge quicker but cant hold as much capacity

  • oh ok thats cool how much is the "a123"

  • alot

  • yah i kind of thought it wud be

  • like 150 ish for 20c 7.2 to 10.8 volt adjustable battery

  • wow thats a lot and also wat do u mean u can change the volt like how much volts its spitting out

  • you can adjust the voltage that the atery puts out from 7.2 volt to 10.8 volts

    there is a little button and an led on the batery and you adjust it with the button

    the higher the voltage the lower the capacity (mah)

    9.9 volts is the sweet spot at 4200 mah

  • k thank you

  • LiFeP04... not FePo. You should at least know what your batteries are before using them.

  • whats the differense between a123 and lipo

  • holy there tough

  • I hook it up wit ah big O'l fatty wako!

  • its not a FePo you moron theres no such thing as phosphate polymer batteries its a LiFe lithium phosphate

  • are those any good?

  • there kind of stupid a 8 or 9 cell is probably better and a lipo is much better but you have to do all this shit to keep them from exploding

  • 9 cells burn out any motor after 10 runs. too much power!

  • not if its a brushless

  • Are you sure?

  • yeah you can use up to a 3cell lipo 11.1 v thats what i run and you could use a 9 easy its less powerful most are like 9.9v or something not sure lipos are better because there more powerful and much lighter

  • actually it's Lithium Iron Phosphate with Nano technology. I run a 3s 10v pack in my brushless rustler and a 2s 6.6v pack in my brushed rustler. Awesome batteries, I love them!

  • its not iron it ion

  • Really... It's Lithium Ion with nano-technology, the actual chemistry is Lithium Iron Phosphate.

    I just finished a college engineering project where we built a pack of 1200 cells for a 200hp electric motorcycle. I know these batteries very well... I also built my own packs for my rustler and they are awesome. Only bad thing is they don't run as long as an equivalent Lithium Polymer, but they're much safer to use.

  • You have to realize that R/C cars don't use nano-tech, the batts aren' that advanced nor that expensive. They are just toys, no matter hoe much fun it brings.

  • nice how fast were u going???? :-P

  • i give 5 stars for the quality

  • Hi just wondering how you fitted those oddly shaped a123's in there, they simply don't fit in the normal 7.2 stick pack spacing I find.

    Although the rustler has an extended pack holder right?

  • I was wondering is mah the same as HV because I've seen a battery I like but it says HV instead. I was wondering are they the same.

  • HV stands for high voltage, that's used when talking about things cappable of 14volt or more, generally.

    mAh, is miliamp hours i believe. So 1000mAh can supply 1000 miliamps (1 amp) for an hour before it runs out.

    So no they are completely different things

  • well when I looked at maxamps website most of there lipo batterys said HV instead of mah. So will do just as well?

  • yeah i know maxamps are strange, but look at any other Battery website and they will not use those terms as badly as max amps do.

  • alright

  • oops not is, it

  • I suggest putting losi XXX-T-CR 2.5 shocks in the back, Revo shocks in the front, and putting in a ball differential to make is like a XXX-T but faster and quieter.

  • I was wondering is mah the same as HV because I've seen a battery I like but it says HV instead. I was wondering are they the same.

  • Does it handle well for a RWD ST?

  • hell no

  • he has the stock vxl brushless motor...

  • what kind of motor do you have

  • A123 Fepo4

  • The accu is are A123 Fepo cells!!!

    And 4 of these cells are in use!

  • that looks awesome at 0:31

  • at 1:18 now thats classic traxxas durability

  • its 1/10 :)

  • At 1:18, it's slower so you see more of what was going on. At 1:10, it happened quite fast.

  • I have to agree with him on this one.

    Traxxas is notorious for being poorly designed with durability in mind.

    I used to laugh at y friends who had supped up T-maxx trucks, which would constantly break from day to day. My good ol Savage didnt have the take off their's had, but it almost never failed me, and would imbarras then in a hill climb, or hook. It jumped better to.

    The only thing it didnt have on them was take off. Top speed was about the same, when those junk 2.5 motors would run thatis

  • I will agree that the T/E-Maxx are prone to breakage but the Rustler can take a beating like no other...I had the XL-5 and drove it like a crazy man...it never broke. I just ordered a VXL and look forward to it's arrival...I have an e-maxx full alloy brushless and yes it constantly gives me problems

  • Yeah your right, I havent heard anything bad about the rustlers. I shouldnt have said "traxxas" as opposed to the T-maxx trucks them selves.

    I have always been a losi fan when it comes to the stadium trucks though. I had a xxx-nt that had practically every upgrade possible on it.

    I wish I wouldnt have sold it.

  • you'll like the VXL: it's fast, light, and very fun. Also, I would warn you to tighten up all nuts, bolts, and other such items. I had to spend 2 hours combing a parking lot with a magnet to find the rear tire nut when it worked loose.

  • Ha ha ah, yeah I losed 2 wheels in the first 2 runs...crazy hey!!! I don't know why they are so loose...lucky I have spares ;)

  • just got a rustler vxl today im going to race it see how fun it is i love these cars

  • I have an old Rustler that I am going to get the brush less(VXL)motor for it

  • you do know that you need a brushless speed control right?

  • yes sir but thanx for reminding me

  • wow wow calm down i just said that to se how people react and you guys did but eneywas nice truck nice vid

  • at 1:18 the front right wheel gets crunched

  • 1/10

  • If they suck so much *and they don't* Then why did you "waste" your money on 8 of em?

    Ah, bragging over the internet is no good, unless you can back it up with a video, like such =D

    Good car, good driver =D

  • bull shit they cost like 400 a peice you lying sack of shit

  • Nice vid man, im thinking of getting one. but why do evrybody have music instead of the real sound in their videos. its much more funny to hear the car

  • where can i get a 3slipo

  • maxamps is a great place for these

  • how strong is that

  • cool i just orded me a rustler vxl now ill have rusty vxl and pede xl5 :)

  • What are the runtimes w/ an A123? Can't decide btwn A123 & LiPo, A123 seems safer but do you get long runtimes out of it?  Seems like you get power out of it!! Nice vid

  • The runtime with this 3s A123 2300mAh Pack is 10-15 min.Sure,with a 4000mAh Lipo Pack the runtime will be longer and maybe more Power.

    But with optimal gearing the A123 Pack has enough Power for me. Lipo i would only take for an onroad car but not for bashing and offroad.

    One wrong jump or crash the lipos will burn youre car down.You can build a hardcase for them,then id would be safer,but i want to ride like i want and not what the lipos want:)

  • Do you have the A123 cells from a123racing dotcom? I was wondering the shape of the pack and how it fits in your rusty. Did you have to mod the batt tray or just strap them in there? Also what is your "optimal gearing" or what are you using in the vid?

  • how much faster will ur rustler go with a123 rather then with an nimh battery?