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  • Why are you even mad? She was addressing the EXTREMIST MISOGYNISTS. But you are responding to her video. Are you a misogynist then?

    And you're right, men don't have rights on women's reproductive organs, just like women don't have rights on men's reproductive organs. WE'RE EQUAL.

  • Brilliant...total clarity and honesty.

  • Only creepy males who have issues stemming from their childhood hate women and feminism. Good quality men who love and respect women as a whole have no problem with feminism. Feminism stands up for women against people who want to subjugate women. When women are being mistreated, abused, or portrayed in ways that harm women in the media, feminists speak up. Demanding equal pay and the right to self-determination is a noble thing and only woman-haters have a problem with this.

  • @jfkjrlover Nope, you're not a deranged man-hater....nope...not at all....

    (backs away slowly)

  • @factory2590 If this chick spent a year in Saudi Arabia or Iran then come back to America, she would have a different outlook.

  • I love this vid, and I am happy to know I'm not the only one thinking this. The biggest thing that annoys me about feminism is that it seems to have left men walking on eggshells in the workplace. It's ridiculous, if you so much as look at a woman wrong: SEXUAL HARASSMENT!!!! I seriously hope the men's movement is gaining ground.

  • @YoungLifeVices So you can get away with making a woman feel uncomfortable around you? You shouldn't even hope for such a thing! No woman should have to put up with unwelcome male attention at work. Note the word UNWELCOME.

  • @jfkjrlover And while you're at it YounglifeVices, note the feminist attempt to control you via your sexuality, and social acceptance.

    This is SOP for feminists. Pay no attention to the manhater. Her opinion of you is irrelevant, since her bitter hatred of you would repel you anyway.

    I suggest moving along, since there's nothing to see here.

  • @jfkjrlover If you look up any document that discusses rights, you'll notice that it says you have the right to free speech. It does not say that you have the right to never feel awkward. So instead of trying to curtail everybody elses actions by trying to make illegal to offend you, how about you 1), admit to being a social incompetent, and 2) learn to handle the things you don't like in life. It's not men's fault that you don't know how to handle an awkward moment with another human being.

  • fuck men they all need to be dealt with. i'm glad they kill each other haha.

  • Its funny how that lowlife from feministing blocked the comments and rating because she was affriad of the backlash of common sense she would get.

  • @BlissInTheAbyss Typical feminist. Thinks she's right, no matter HOW many people disagree....thinks she's 'Progressive' while spouting hateful sexist and racist rhetoric (because it's acceptable).

    Then she wonders why feminists have such a bad rep.

    Then she, like other feminists, demand we stop thinking badly of them. Without changing one iota of their outlook.

    Then, they get angry when we tell them to fuck off.

    They haven't figured out they don't matter yet.

  • @factory2590 Dude. I´m glad I heard you speak. Keep it up bud. By the way you sound a lot like my uncle and that´s a compliment. Have a good life man.

  • @factory2590 She's entitled to her opinion, and I agree that there is a lot of misogyny on the Internet. I see tons of it on YouTube. It's hurtful, knowing that there are so many men (and even some women) out there who feel the need to attack women as a whole for some cockamamie reason.

    Feminists have a bed rep because of the extremists that people point to. "Oh, look! Valerie Solanis was a feminist! That means they're all bad! Derp!" It's that kind of groupthink that gives people a bad name.

  • @NintendoArielle Well, I suppose you can excuse your bad behaviour to yourself however you like.

    It won't change how the rest of us view you one little bit, but it might make it easier for you to sleep at night.

    Feminism is an anti male hate movement. ALL forms of it. Much like there are no 'pro-Jewish' Neo-Nazi movements...

  • @factory2590 My bad behavior? I haven't done anything. You, on the other hand, discriminate. Yes, there are extremists in the feminist movement, but those are rare. The average feminist is not man-hater. If you choose to be this ignorant, then it's your own damn fault. You just see the stereotype and apply it to everyone. That's pathetic and fucking stupid.

    Comparing feminism to Nazism just shows how ridiculous you're being. It's not "anti-male," for fuck's sake. Get a life.

  • @NintendoArielle "Comparing feminism to Nazism just shows how ridiculous you're being. It's not "anti-male," for fuck's sake."

    Well, let's just see how History judges you assholes on that one...

    I'm confident I'll be vindicated.

  • @BlissInTheAbyss Ha ha. Amen.

  • I find it ironic how the so called privileged gender has less freedom of speech compared to women/feminists.

  • @nicko81m No one has "less freedom of speech," you moron. Even the KKK and Westboro Baptist Church are allowed to say what they want, regardless of their extremist views on black people and gay people.

    Seriously, stop whining about feminism. I mean, holy shit, Jessica was pointing out something that's obviously true. There are so many misogynistic comments on the Internet. It shows how misogynistic some people in this culture still are. THAT was the point of her video, asshole.

  • Feminists are shameless hypocrites

  • Factory2590: Your argument in this video is good. I don't agree with you, however, that the use for feminism today has vanished. Of course, legally women have obtained a sort of "equality",I think they still haven't realized one culturally. Maybe for men this is hard to see. Feminism has its radical trains of thought, like all ideologies do, but this is my feminist view: As a female, I know I am no more than a person, but no less, and desired to be treated as such. Negative stereotypes persist.

  • thankyou man brother : loved the video so true, i have 2 daughters who disagree with the feminist movement.....keep up the good work....

  • Awesome, awesome video, Factory. Major nod for the balls to go public. That is awesome and a role model for others, such as myself. 

  • @FingSpaghettiMonster Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Speaking up isn't as scary as it might seem though.

    I'm just sayin'.... :)

  • -the coddling and protecting of our american women[read: fragile sexy white skinny] is also sexist

    -men aren't pressured into roles of fatherhood as much as women/motherhood and reproductive rights are about the right to control ones body whereas fatherhood is not

    - accusing someone of rape is WRONG. but also is seen as a source of viable power for some women and maybe the abortion bill that is trying to take away funds from planned parenthood by REDEFINING RAPE is a little more important

  • great video bro loved it...

  • BITCHES ARE ONLY HERE TO S MY D. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE BETTY YOU WORK FOR ME!

  • You should ask Jessica if she wants men to be forcibly given hormone therapy to make them less aggressive, or if maybe she wants men to have far, far fewer rights than women. She will say yes to these sorts of suggestions. Then ask her if she is aiming for gender equality or the domination of women over men. LOL. Then point out this contradiction, and take a screenshot of her reply. Then post it all over the internet.

  • Those evil feminists! Demanding equal treatment and such, its just so radical. Some men just have such a hard time coping with intelligent women speaking their mind over the internet. Yes, it's hard boys, I know. But maybe you will get with the program someday. Lovely video. I do enjoy watching people like you shit themselves over a vid blog.... Bravo!

  • @jadakiss0601 "Those evil feminists! Demanding equal treatment and such, its just so radical. "

    You bet. I've found that out after hundreds of ill-informed, bigoted, hateful feminists have come here to 'point and laugh' without knowing a damned thing about what they 'criticise'.

    Bigots like you will get yours.

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  • @factory2590

    "Bigots like you will get yours."

    lol wat? k now i'm pointing and laughing

  • @needlenose big deal.

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  • @jadakiss0601 Feminism is NOT about choice.

    It's an emotionally-based ideology that wants power plain and simple. It gains power by fooling gullible people into believing that women still are not at an equal footing in western countries compared to men. They will do anything to skew the statistics in their favor and continue to move the goal posts because that is all an emotional concept like feminism can do to keep the flow of fanatics coming into their movement.

  • Feminism tells you what you WANT to hear, it appeals to your ego, it appeals to your gender pride and all other forms of superficial nonsense that do not deal with the scope of reality. Think for yourself and stop being a drone led on by petty emotions with a complete lack of rational and critical thought.

    Why do you think Feminist critical theory was invented? It was invented because they want you to use THEIR criticisms and not your own. That doesn't sound like choice to me.

  • @jadakiss0601 Also, I am a WOMAN who understands that she doesn't have to subscribe to such a bigoted, elitist and racist movement to gain strength and feel "empowered". I draw strength from my own logic and reasoning.

    Why don't YOU try it?

  • @jadakiss0601

    "Some men just have such a hard time coping with intelligent women speaking their mind over the internet. Yes, it's hard boys blah blah blah"

    You are high. Women's capacity to be full of themselves is truly a wonder of nature. You flatter your vain self with unearned self-compliments about your own intelligence. Your leap of logic that men give a flying crap about your intelligence undermines your claim to having any. And free speech? It was MEN who invented the concept, tart.

  • @jadakiss0601 Typical feminist shaming tactic....no rebuttal at all just shame him into submission. How about looking at the issues and disproving them. Oh thats riiiiiight.... you can't. Have a nice day.

  • Feminism: Both sexes are equal but females are more equal than males.

  • Was the "suck my dick" comment supposed to be ironic? Let's hope soAand the whole "feminism is only about equality for women, what about men" argument: seriously?

    Note the word equality, not superiority. Equality as in both things being EQUAL. Equality for women IS equality for men

    If you think the feminist movement is about superiority that's a different issue and you should address that with the proper vocabulary so as not to mislabel our movement and make yourself look like an ass

  • @nasheenkalkat

    Oh...hmmm, let me ask you this:

    If you have ZERO idea what men's lives are actually like, how do you know when you've passed "equal"? Secondly, why do you assume women were disadvantaged in all areas? Because it sure looks like you got a lock on "the family" from where I sit, and it doesn't look like women are going to give up that power willingly either...

  • @factory2590

    Would you say that you have no idea what women's lives are like? Of course not. You're an educated man, you don't have to be a woman to have some sense of what a woman's life is like. In fact you seem to think you understand it quite well. Just because we're not men doesn't mean we can't understand the way that they're treated in legislative and societal institutions.

  • @nasheenkalkat

    So you're well aware of all the issues men face? The suicide rates, the violent deaths? You know the solution to male unemployment, and you clearly see a method for defusing the Misandry so prevalent in our culture?

    Feminists done a lot about that stuff have you?

    Or is Feminism really NOT about "equality" after all, considering all these Feminist pronouncements on men are, you know, formed without actually talking to men...

    Feminist history is revisionist propaganda....

  • @nasheenkalkat I've read enough Feminist literature, and spoken to enough ove the years, to know Feminist "understanding" of men.

    It consists of trying to convince men we have more than we do, and that we should give what we have to women..."because men oppressed women".

    Feminism is enforced legal Chivalry, there is no "equality" in there ("equality for women" sounds a lot like "for women, equality and nothing less. For men, equality and nothing more!" to me...)

    You're FRAUDS.

  • @nasheenkalkat i love u man fuck feminism

  • @nasheenkalkat Somone didn't get spakned enough as a child and needs to shut the hell up. nasheenkalkat...OH by the way watch my video on how trixie flims hates freedom of speech just type trixiefilms in the serch collum and my video will be at the top of the list.

  • @nasheenkalkat Feminism is not now, nor has it EVER been about 'equality'.

    That's PR, and nothing more.

    Feminism is an anti-male Hate Movement.

  • @nasheenkalkat I'm sorry but:

    a) fuck you.

    b) look at the most open piece of institutionalised sexism in the world: the violence against women act.

    c) fuck you once more cause you are that much of a retard.

    d) also you're the ass here if you can't understand, maybe we all should speak really slowly and simply for you next time.

    e) also you are mislabelling your movement if you think feminism was about equality for women AND men.

    but prove me wrong tell me all the ways feminism has made men equal

  • GMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone finally said it!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you factory2590!!! I would give you the hero award if I could!!! Thanks for saying the truth man. Outstanding vid!

  • @NoMorThanMost

    You should check out MRm! Magazine then.

    You can download it at Mens News Daily dott Com...

  • I also want to applaud you for letting people comment on your videos. Makes the argument very transparent.

    (*** I've Now subscribed to your channel***)

  • at least you're brave enough to let people comment on your video. good stuff keep up the good work.

  • Thanks. I love watching Feminists prove they're a bunch of complaining sexist harpies.

    I mean, I could SAY it, but it's so much more effective when they actually DEMONSTRATE the fact...

  • Suck my dick? Wow, what a mature video - nice emotional rant by an angry white man. I'm scared...really really scared now..I feel oppressed by your angry whiteness!

  • @Tigerbos

    Back! Back damn Feminist!

    Fear my angry whiteness, you sniveling wretch!

    heh heh heh...

  • baby=patronizing

    my video= you lacked the hearing to hear it and the confidence to handle it nor understand it

    wandering around to other comments of mine to somehow assert some dominance is laughable. You are, as they say, a typical machismo. Either that or your a female chauvinist pig. Both ways, you lack any capacity for the truth. (waits for more patronizing) *yawn*

  • Oh wow. This response surprises me. Can't spew your stupid shit on my stuff so you follow me around to do it. LOL. You're hilariously predictable like all the other insecure men out there. *yawn* (awaits more insulting comments and psychobabble) continue, please, you're proving my point.

  • Are you still here?

  • DianaBoston is an old hag who hates men and thinks women are oppressed, yet cannot name one instance where they are. Also, what reproductive rights do men have? Additionally, how does Jessica's talk about rape being unacceptable prove that she is right in reference to this video? Are you implying that the man in this video is a rapist? Watch it, lady -that is slander and a high crime. You just can't face it that you are fucking ugly and can't have love in your life. So fuck you!

  • @shmiggen Yep! I'm an old hag with 40 years of life experience on this planet and I love my life and my friends and family. I know you're trying really hard and all to get me upset but you're just making yourself look like a fucking asshole. I find you amusing as hell. Thanks for the laughs.

  • you're digging your own ditch because you never respond intelligently to those who challenge you. All you have are ad hominem attacks and personal insults. How are women oppressed? Well? Can you answer the question? Do men have reproductive rights? Well? Can you answer the question? Of course not. Dismissed.

  • @shmiggen Teehee!

  • Teehee? haha, guess you really proved my point then. Ok, you can go back to playing with your cats now.

  • yes, o master of nothing, i proved your point. I'd much rather play with a pussy than a stupid dick.

  • That much is obvious.

    Trolls like you make good examples of WHY men should hate Feminists.

    You're a picture perfect example. So please, continue to rant against men and Teh Patriarchy....it's fun, AND educational.

  • Internet white knights!

    Take up your swords!

    Don your armor!

    For glory!

  • haha. nice.

  • Yeah! Takes balls, and brains to do that. Awsome!

  • great video !

  • Yes, fight the oppressors!

  • The first thing these misandric, hysterical vipers need is a good old fashioned beating. Yes, I said it. You see, "EQUALITY" has a cost, and its about high-time we started charging. For decades we have allowed these loathesome cows to demonize us, illigitmate us, legally control us, and humiliate us, causing massive psychological and tangible harm.

    Would we ever, men, allow other men to perpetrate these crimes? NO. We would beat them senseless.

    But you know what protects them?

    Chivalry.

  • "Rights" are political conceits; as such they are made up nonsense.

    Good for you, dude speaker.

  • You are my one of my heroes, right up there with Dick Masterson. Five out of fucking five!

  • Feminists, especially in the West, are nothing but spoiled bitches.

  • And yes, women can be sexist, too. It happens all the time.

  • "And yes, women can be sexist, too. It happens all the time"

    No shit....really? Women can be sexist?

    I've got news for you sister, the Average woman says and does (and seems to think) the most hateful, sexist things...and not only feels justified in doing/saying them, but she also feels superior enough to call anyone who objects a misogynist.

    Routinely.

  • The next time you have to fight to not be continually objectified, dumbed down, or denied the same pay as your co-workers let's see you smile and take it with stride.

    You're going to be pissed, right? Yeah, because every time you say you want to be "equal" someone comes along and accuses you of being "elitist" and wanting to be "better" and telling you to get in your "place."

  • Everything you reference not only happens to men, but does so in a socially sanctioned, even official or LEGAL way.

    And even speaking about men's issues gets you in nearly every woman's "bad books".

    In fact, many women, and certainly the VAST majority of feminists, scoff at the very idea of men as a gender having issues that in any way mirror women's.

    And that makes many women, and ESPECIALLY feminists, incredibly sexist as a matter of default status.

  • No we do not. We know society also has an effect on our male counterparts just the same as it does us. It just does. We don't blame men and women for being sexist, we blame society.

    Like I said, we are trying to get society to go past race, class, gender, sexual orientation, ETC. We're not your enemies, we're really not.

    But, go ahead and demonize us. That's fine. You'll go on with your merry life and us ours.

    This discussion is obviously over. Have the last word--I don't care.

  • uh huh.

    Male porn stars are paid at most 300 per scene while women can earn up to 2000 per scene, are you going to go fight on the behalf of the men for equal pay? Are you going to make sure that women who are in the military, federal, and civil service live up to the same physical standards as the men have to? I bet that you couldn't give a rat's ass in the areas of life where women dominate men.

    Please keep up your bullshit, I am sure you are paying for it without realizing it.

  • Your laughing at the issues disturbs me--however, I'd like to thank you for being the poster boy for the issues we fight!

    And in fact, Feminism is about equality for everyone because we have to go past race, class, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc for everyone to be truly equal.

    It's only called "Feminism" because it started with women's suffrage. Sure, we could change our name, but we'd lose our history.

    We don't want to be any better than anyone else. We just want to be equal.

  • "We don't want to be any better than anyone else. We just want to be equal. "

    If that wasn't a great big lie, men wouldn't be in the situation they are.

    But it IS a great big lie, and men aren't stupid...much as women seem to think we are...

  • We don't think men are idiots. If we did then there wouldn't be male feminists. For crépe's sake.

    *facepalm*

    However, you are acting like an idiot. Stop playing the victim because you're not. Currently we live in a patriarchal society and your gender does indeed hold the power.

    Saying there's no need for feminism is like saying there's no racism because Obama was elected president. And guess what! Feminism deals with issues like racism, too!

    Do your research before making false accusations.

  • You accuse me of ignorance as to what feminism is. This is becoming more and more common with you folks.

    Here's the deal.

    I do NOT have to become some academic to criticise feminism. I do NOT have an obligation to try and be "fair" to "real feminists". I do NOT, in any way, owe feminism, or feminists, a damn thing...

    As to "no need for feminism" I will go one further:

    Feminism is an evil blight that has nearly destroyed society, and nearly succeeded in enslaving men, both STATED goals.

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  • Great video a perfect counter strike to mizz valenti. 5*

  • that was one of the most coherent statements directed at the lie of feminism that I have listened to ever. Great work.

  • hahaha right on brother

  • You could be right now in Pattaya with wonderful non feministic women.Hope that soon you will post a vid of you in Pattaya having fun there.Forget feminist..think of yourself..life is short.PATTAYA ROCKS

  • ur the man

  • all the you tube feminists need to be the better person . thea}y love the word fuck what dose that proove . its not a womon}s rites tha}y care about . Im getting hot hearing them say fuck all the time .

  • Has anybody noticed that feminists are still saying inequality is in the work force because women earn less money and something should be done about it? Something has already been done. Women have the same rights as men. But it didn't suddenly become equal, with half the CEOs being women the day after they got equal work rights. It takes time, and women are gaining power. Look at college students. Well over half are women, especially in the higher-level courses.

  • Advancing the right of everyone isn't feminism. It's a particular brand of classical liberalism. Feminism is about the rights of women. If it isn't about the rights of women, it's not feminism. If it's about the right of everyone, it's not feminism. Feminism *can* be about equality in a world where women are actually discriminated against. But if that's not the case, then feminism - logically - is about advancing the rights of women over and beyond those of men.

  • Feminism is a movement with a gendered name that claims to be for gender equality but is actually for female superiority and has a twisted view on reality. Women have been getting away with false accusations of rape and domestic violence. Women are not an oppressed group. They are an overempowered group.

  • Only men are sexist, only whites are racist... That's their logic.

  • you make some good points man. feminists are extremely empowered.

  • dude the way you ended the video put the biggest smile on my face u made my day. finally i meet a guy thats not pussified like the rest of these emasculated guys out there and have the balls to call out feminism for what it really is. a fucking SEXIST ideology.

  • The more men that feel free to do that, the better. It's a total shame that it's still such a big deal to question feminist propaganda.

    But things are changing. Quickly. And the more men that make videos, and comment, and read MRA blogs, and participate in protests...the better.

    So thanks for the props...and I look forward to watching your videos....

  • Only men are sexists because we live in a disgusting, male centered patriarchy. Misogyny stems from men and men despise women. Every other woman has been raped or sexually assaulted in her lifetime. It's bound to leave some women scarred and rightfully angry. And some women would prefer never to have to look at or deal with men again, even briefly. No wonder.

  • That's the craziest thing I've heard all day!

    Thanks for making me laugh so hard....you're a peach.

    Have a good one. :)

  • "I don't think I've got particularly insightful views...."

    It's just that you're more aggressive (like me). You say that feminism is evil and it needs to go, ASAP, and i like that (because its true) :D. However, i got some suggestions for you (and your videos). if you want to hear them, let me know :P.

  • By all means, fire away!

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  • Wow, you're blind to the world! Wanna take a gander at what we have to deal with? If we rid the world of women there would be no maliciousness, war (we're fighting for you, you ingrates!), blind consumerism, raping of men, lesbians, and children, and abuses of the preceding groups. Just like every other species on this planet, we don't need you at all. other than bearing new members, you lot are as useless as you are violent. And science is making it questionable as to whether you all are vital.

  • Out come the shaming canards and low blows once again....(yawn)...

    THIS is what a feminist looks like. This is the tone of that movement, and this is the level of "tolerance" they have for dissenting views, ie. outright dismissal as anti-female.

    But men don't have to let psychotic bitches like that run things. We can, and in my view SHOULD, stand up and demand consideration, respect, and equality.

    We do that, and who'll care what feminists think, you know?

  • Holy hell factory, and i mean that in every sense of the word. Up until today i only watched 2 videos (i think) of you. But damn, i just watched some more and i must say that out of every MRA out there on youtube (or in real life that i've seen for that matter), you are the best, least boring and most intelligent. It's as if you pull the words right out of my mouth and say it yourself. When i hear you talk, it's like im talking.

    In other words, keep up the good work.

  • Whew. For a second there I thought you caught me using my "brainwave scanner". :)

    I don't think I've got particularly insightful views....

    I really AM just saying what nearly every man is thinking (and a LOT of women too).

    Glad you like them though, there'll be more forthcoming.. :)

  • Feminism is producing superficial uncaring cold men in my opinion that will just use woman and throw them away.Men are waking up to the marriage racket...the domestic abuse racket and all the little war tricks of the feminist.What do women want?...of course they dont really know but they do want security...dont give it to them...they want babies...wear condoms always...they want money....make sure they dont have any...always be detatched silly and uncaring

  • Manhater.

  • lol @ factory... u sure r tired of explaining urself to stupid feminists who never have a REAL logical reply :)

  • Logic never enters the argument, since feminism is not a logical ideology. Using logic, it's easy to show their hypocrisy.

    Which of course is why some feminists are denouncing "Traditional Science" as Patriarchal, and therefore biased against women, thus discounting whichever finding they deem uncomfortable.

    I have learned over the years, it's much quicker to call them out than argue till you're blue in the face - by giving in to their delay, deny, and obfuscate tactics...

  • You know, I saw an article that said the same thing of women. It was really interesting you should look it up. It sighted a UN study which proved that females are 3500% more likely to abuse and molest children...

  • factory2590

    Kudos Bro!!! see u understand whats going on in the modern world. Don't worry bro, all those who r bashing ur video are either fembots or manginas. We as men have nothing to do with these evil cults.

    Feminists are sick sociopaths who have a completely different view on life. Manginas are deranged lunatics who support women's hate movement just to get laid. WTF? These people are not worth the trouble let them find their own death...

  • What are you....five?

  • did u learn that word "sex" from ur elder brother? guess ur single mom is too busy to check what her 5 year old is doing online...

  • Couple things to wrap your head around then sister.

    1) I am an anti-feminist, and I believe it is the source of many of society's ills.

    2)Women are incredibly coddled both officially and unofficially in our society, up to and including rights that men do not share.

    3) I don't give a fuck how I come off to you or anyone like you. I don't need to apologize for shit. Feminists have a lot to apologize for though.

    If you think attacking me will mitigate your feminist guilt, you're wrong.

  • Anyone of any gender, race, religion,sexual orientation, nationality, etc. can still be sexist, racist, homophobic, heterophobic, biphobic, xenophobic, etc.

    Feminism is far from being unnecessary. There are still groups in the US that would strip a woman of her rights. There are still places in this wold where women are property.

    A group will only be able to establish and maintain their rights so long as they are willing to stand for them. The same goes for masculism.

  • From the masculist perspective feminism is one of those groups that tries to strip men of "their rights". So hypocritical...

  • And yet you oppose masculists? How does that mesh with your egalitarian worldview? I mean, you just said they were standing up for their rights and everything....

    Is this a lead-in to you stating that men deserved the shit thrown at them by Feminists because we ALLOWED it to happen?

    Cause I haven't heard that one in a while, it'd be refreshing.

  • I oppose masculists? Where did you get that idea? I don't believe that I have made any statements to that effect.

    I support some (but admittedly not all) of the goals of the men's rights movement.

    I only oppose blaming feminism (as if that was one unified movement) for all of your problems. It would be equally wrong and insensitive for feminists to blame masculists for discrimination against women, right?

    When both 'sides' blame each other, neither can objectively claim the moral high ground.

  • I don't know why you feel like your under attack just because someone defends feminism.

    Maybe it would help to look at things from someone else's perspective. I used to think masculism was just another name for anti-feminist, anti-woman, until I bothered to investigate on my own. I dare say I'm not the only one who could benefit from doing so.

    You're right that men do face sexual discrimination, hence the need for MRM. But dont ignore that women have and still face injustice as well.

  • Otherwise you just come off much like a white guy complaining about how the blacks are keeping you down and how the civil rights movement is to blame for your problems.

    If the goals are gender equality, I see no reason that feminists and masculists cant work together.

  • I do. Feminists are liars, cheats, and will manipulate anything to make sure women come out on top. Feminists have been positioning themselves as "experts" on Gender, but have NO idea what men face or live through every day. None. Nada. Zip.

    On purpose.

    I am here to fight for men's rights. I don't give a fuck if it means trampling everything you hold dear into the dust. I don't care one whit for "women's rights", which is EXACTLY the regard you have shown men.

    So fuck feminist "help".

  • You're the one conflating "Feminist" with "Woman", not me.

  • I guess if someone is told they're a 'victim' forcefully enough, they might come to believe it. you hope. Either you oppress men or they'll oppress you. You're either with us or against us.right?

  • No, you're right. Feminists blame "The Patriarchy" for everything they think is wrong.

    Of course, "The Patriarchy" can better be expressed as "Men", or at best "Male Power".

    So, Feminists don't blame masculists (whoever the fuck THOSE are supposed to be), they blame men in general, and male power (of any kind) in specific.

    So...when was the last time a Feminist lobbied for a law to limit Female power? Or balance men's rights and women's (ie, give men more)?

    never.

    So, fuck all of you.

  • Clearly you have no grasp of the issues men face, nor are you willing to admit the culpability of Feminist dogma in bringing about the current state of affairs.

    It's VERY clear that men are discriminated against. Anyone with eyes can see that.

    You go ahead and keep your blinders on...it's always been a great failing of feminism that it relies on bully tactics repressing the questioning of it's tenets to survive.

    All it takes to defeat Feminism is open dialogue, which this video is part of.

  • Don't you just love it when they say we're not supposed blame feminism for a lot of the problems men face, especially since a lot of those problems started when feminism reared it's ugly head? Im beginning to think they're a bunch of alcoholics "in denial". Go to A.A and work your fucking program !!

  • Perfect response, factory2590. Feminism is nothing more than a vile anti-male, pro-abortion hate movement.

  • Speaking of secretary jobs - what about THAT reverse discrimination? Any man who applies to be a secretary, has to compete with 200 women. That is UNFAIR. Meanwhile, the men have to take all the difficult jobs, like CEO. Obviously, the leadership jobs in companies are less desirable. If they were more desirable, we'd see more women in the roles, wouldn't we? The only thing keeping women from being the CEO of big companies is the fact that the jobs are undesirable.

  • ... Do I detect sarcasm?

  • The problem with women being in charge is that when they're assertive or brutally honest, the way male leaders are, the woman comes across as a bitch or a lesbian or "shrill." . This is why I personally believe women belong at home with the kids. We don't need a bunch of uppity lezzies in charge of our companies. I'm obviously not the only one who believes this, as 99% of all fortune 500 companies have male CEO's. There are plenty of secretary jobs to go around, ladies.

  • Best response on youtube.

  • The "patriarchy" feminists bitch about is bullshit.

    The best person qualified for the job should GET the job. And the best person qualified usually does get the job.

    And guess what? The best person qualified for all the important jobs is usually a MAN.

    Noone is holding women back. Women have more crutches holding them up and legislation in their favor and they still strive for mediocrity. Or they use thier vagina like an ATM machine and have some man pay for them.

  • "The fact that women get a free cab ride home is proof that they are inferior and need crutches in society"

    You've proven that patriarchy isn't made-up by this statement alone.

  • No. I did not. I proved that women get benefits they dont deserve just because they are women.

    If women want to be equals they need to act like it. You can't have it both ways. You cant play the helpless little girl card to get benefits from society...and then say you're opressed when you have more social programs, court bias, and scholarships than men do.

    They are truly living a hipocrisy.

  • Feminism has nothing to do with men, yet the "men's movement" has everything to do with the fantsay that feminists spend their time propogating a false idea that men are worthless. What more evidence do you need that men assume they are the center of the universe?

  • Fantasy? A lot of feminists do think men are worthless, thats a fact. Maybe not ALL of them. But a lot of them do. That means that its not a fantasy.

    Men ARE the center of the universe. Men created nearly everything you see, use, and take for granted today.

  • "Man-hating feminists" are a negligible if not completely made-up faction of the movement the mainstream expolits to discredit feminism as a whole.

    And yes men are the center of the universe which is exactly why men in and of themselves do not need a movement. It's also why they can't imagine how an entire social phenomenon has nothing to do with them.

    I agree that men are oppressed in some ways in our society, but patriarchy is the enemy here, not women.This is the fight of true feminists.

  • Oh god, you actually believe that too. I can't tell wither to be amazed at the navitity or just pity you.

  • So....men are not deserving of consideration in your world. And if they are they are incapable of deciding for themselves what they want changed (that is the exclusive purview of those who "think correctly").

    "man hating" is CENTRAL to feminism, aka Patriarchy Theory(tm), only a feminist would try and deny that.

    If you're such an equalist, why are you trying to shut men up?

    ...because they might not agree with feminism?

    Maybe Feminism is wrong, not half the population...

  • Now you're just making up arguments I never wrote. Women oppose patriarchy and the negative effects it has on both women and on men--it's certainly taken its toll on you. Hating men has notihing to do with the movement, despite all the stereotypes the mainstream has created and wants you to believe. If by merely responding to you, I'm trying to shut you up, then you're trying to shut women and feminists up in posting this video.

  • Patriarchy Theory IS man-hate...whether you admit it or not. Ergo, ALL feminism is man-hatred.

    PHMT arguments are juvenile, baseless, and an obvious attempt to deflect blame from yourselves.

    And yes, I would dearly love Feminists to shut up for a while...maybe get in touch with the fact that sometimes non-feminists, or even (gasp) ANTI Feminists are right.

    But that would threaten women's power (Matriarchy?)...and we couldn't have THAT, now could we?

  • Feminism is about promoting an egalitarian, democratic society, not one where some people have inherent authority over others. This has nothing to do with hating men, but conversely patriarchy has everything to do with promoting a society where men have inherent authority over women.

  • Seeing as how "the Patriarchy"(tm) is summed up in two words as "Male Power", how exactly is this "nothing to do with hating men"?

    Feminism has never, and likely will never, had any interest in Preserving, let alone advancing, the rights of men.

    Why do you think you deserve a say now? Because this is about men, and their rights, and those who oppose us in advancing them.

    i.e. ANYONE who identifies as Feminist.

    Equality is black and white...you either have it or not. Men don't.

  • Patriarchy is the dominance and inhernet authority of men over women. Radical feminists want to discontinue this heirarchy, and replace it with an egalitarian system. The idea that women as nuturers have a greater right to their children stems from the system of patriarchy. In fact, all the inequties pointed out by the "men's movement" stem from patriarchy and were here long before feminists existed.

    When you discredit feminists, you discredit your own "men's movement."

  • Which can, and should, be read thusly:

    Patriarchy is any power men have that in any way limits women's power. Wherever there exists an overlap, women must prevail to make up for thousands of years of oppression...

    Correct?

    Well, I don't give a shit if you think you're on the side of right. Fact is, women are and have historically been the most protected and privileged group in society.

    In every fashion.

    Your man hate notwithstanding, men are the "oppressed" ones, if anyone is.

  • Well since you want to talk historically . . . .

    If you truly believe that men are the most oppressed members of society, you have no one but men and patriarchy to blame, because until recently they have had almost total control of government, commerce, religion, all aspects of the public sphere. Have men been oppressed? Yes. How women were responsible for this oppression is beyond me. They weren't making the rules.

  • Circular, and pointless, argumet...

    In any case, you bore me to death, since you say nothing new...

    Post all you wish, but I'm done responding to this thread....

  • It's not a circular argument, it's a point you don't have an answer for--at least not an answer that would defeat my argument and support yours.

    From the spiteful, condescending tone of your video, I think you're far more interested in hating people and unleashing your frustration than actually improving society.

  • "If you truly believe that men are the most oppressed members of society, you have no one but men and patriarchy to blame"

    No we don't. By that, your saying no one has ever been oppressed under other forms of government rule like, a dictatorship, a monarchy, a theocracy or a oligarchy.

    "How women were responsible for this oppression is beyond me."

    Small groups of bastards are to blame for this, including men and women.

  • Dictatorship, monarchy, etc. are all patriarchal institutions. Heirarchy itself is a principle component of patriachy

  • ...and i am sorry but are you againt the monarchy also?

    are you a god damn comunist?

    "itself is a principle component of patriachy" a feminist crossed with marxism perhaps?