Tell me, dipshit Barosso, if I don't know how my MEP is using MY EU votes to influence EU bills, how can I make an informed decision on how he's representing me?
Where could I cast my vote for this secret, democratic election?? Oh wait, I cant..that dosent sound like a democracy at all..actually this exactly what america is doing..just bigger and more stupid then any other piece of land in the world
The EU has been some moronic shit that it seems no one really wanted from the start. If governement in Europe and America keep growing and getting even more convoluted, I fear there will be a massive revolution in the western world in my lifetime.
So he's sort of like the pope. Elected in secret, by a group of people and not by the populace (or the majority of members of his religion). Then, like the pope, can we not treat him as merely an adviser who's advice we can ignore when it does not fit with the populace's views or wants?
2:28 - 3:14 Is what this is all about. It's like a play. This can't be serious. Kids in school behave better or listen to the "teacher" better.
Nobody cares about you there. It's just one big show and you're still losing jobs and the general standard of living is lowered slowly. We're all just one herd of nice little slaves. We were tought to behave and listen while the "big guys" act like free big guys with free big mouths.
This ugly thing named Barroso is beyond the nausea, he is absolutely repulsive. If I had, even in the most remote circumstances, someone publicly exposing me by telling inescapable truths in my face just like that british gentleman did, I swear I would dig a hole in the ground and stick my head in it. This Barroso is miserable server of the global elite. Please make no mistake, I'm a portuguese citizen, I know what I'm talking about.
@Totuus2011 I'm not sure about Stalin but I do know that Hitler certainly wasn't. The Nazi party elected Hitler as president of their political party and had the majority 52% of the votes in the election. It's strange that Hitler's election was more democratic then the EU.
Europeans need to stop believing their socialist brainwashing media, telling them to hate the British, and instead JOIN US to fight the EU and take back freedom and democracy. The EU will be the ruin of you all after the events of today. If eurozone nations meekly sit by and let their leaders create a EUSSR there will be no going back. The best thing you can hope for is to be isolated from the EUSSR!
@asdasdasdfdfd333 YOU need to get rid of the queen and the royal family. THe US was founded because British people hated the Royal Family and left. Finish the job. Hang the Queen and may royals from around the world be slaughtered
@DefectivePoliceFarce 51% pwns 49% and tells 49% how life has to be lived. That's democracy and it's happening all over the place. Then there's also corruption everywhere but that's another story.
Man I can't stop LMFAO!! he says"I was elected by this parliament in a secret vote " SECRET VOTE LMFAO!!! WELL MR BARROSO I ENJOYED THAT enormously LOL! OMG secret vote and he brags about it likes that's OK
I'am from Poland, so I know what I'am saing - chief of EU parlament Buzek is an agent of old regiment communist secret police - Walensa as well. Those assholes defends communist EU, becouse they have order from communist secret police supervisers. Only dorks can belive communism gone 20 years ago. Changed name - that's all. Traiters and communist agents are between us and makes big money from ours taxes and pretending enemies of communism and totalitarity. Bullshit - Buzek, Walensa ale agents.
@liberwig I am Polish too and poeple dont listen to this GARBAGE. Sorry mate but you are not right. The communism has ended in Europe but it has large roots in post soviet area of influence countries like Poland. Thats why the best idea would be to remove all political staff in our country and place a new young decent people on their places with a degree and experience.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Your from Belgium eh? I would want to too, I don't know plenty about Belgian politics, but I know the walloons and flemish are very divided (if you could elaborate more). But democracy is fragile, its a balance of rules which can be exploited for extremism very quickly; its greatest strength can also be its greatest flaw. As an outsider (canada) I find it difficult to believe that the EU still exists and is able to do what its been doing unopposed.
OMG just hold a referedum on the EU because we are either gonna leave through a referedum or sometime next year we will be forced out of the EU because with the way its going the EU isn't gonna last as very long.
Martin Schulz should be assassinated. Fucking fascist son of a bitch.
Always the one scraming loudest, we'll see how hard he's gonna scream when the revolution comes and we will be stoning him to death in front of the EU parliament.
@Seventh7Art of course that if I am not representing anyone I vote secretly. This is not the case. MEPs or any other voted representative at all shall not vote secretly because there is no way to check how they are representing citizens who voted for them.
If I want someone to represent me then I need to know what he does so I can revoke him or not vote him next ballots!
Don't represent people if you are scared of people seeing what you're voting for in their name!
@Seventh7Art Secret ballot votes are fine for citizens, but when an elected official cast his vote it should be out in the open, so that his constituency can see that he is following the wishes of the people who put him in his seat. To have secret ballots in parliament is disgraceful; if you are to represent a group of people, you should be held accountable for your performance!
It makes me sad and happy insame time. Sad as I wish Poland had politicians as Farage. And happy cause at least there is somebody liek that out there...
All im gonna say is that if UK left the EU we would just sit and watch while they become more powerful and Britain get pushed to the bottom of the pile and we will have as much influence as Greenland!
@Sawdy07 the UK doesnt want to tell other countries what to do and no country has the right to do so. we want to be free from the stupid EU regulations cuasing us economic harm.
if you think EU have real influence in the case of their military your right but its at the expense of the taxpayer.
if you support the EU your a fascist plain and simple.
@Sawdy07 All I'm goimg to say is we have no influence in EU right now we watch while they become more powerful and Britain gets pushed to the bottom of the pile. We pay a lot of money to the EU but get very little in return if it wasn't for the rebate which they want to stop we would be the largest contributer to GDP.
It is time to give the people of Britain the right to vote on the E.U membership, let the people decide who governs, parliamentary ratification is not acceptable on this issue, this country as a right to a say and we want it, lets put this to bed finally, whether it be a yes or a no. I'm not interested how ohther countries voted, I want to know what the British want and let them decide. This is their land
EUX.TV now censoring sound ?! this sham union needs to end quickly. I'm Portuguese and peacefull, but I'm feeling robbed of my democracy..... and so do many other people who unfortunately cannot articulate their own opinion.......
Barroso says that because the EU is not a state, it doesn't have a president, to be elected by the people. But it DOES have a president! (Van Rompuy) So why is he not elected by the people??
@ccd101 The EU does not have a president. There are 3 presidents representing its 3 core institutions: Barroso, Van Rompuy, and Buzek from Portugal, Belgium, and Poland representing the commission, the council, and the parliament. They represent these institutions. If they represented the whole european people, then there would be a EU wide citizen vote. On top of that, the members of the parliament and the council are directly elected by the people.
Officially, the EU does not have a constitution either ("it's just a treaty!"), but when you scratch away the propaganda, the "Lisbon treaty" is the EU constitution, Van Rompuy is the EU president, Barroso is the EU Prime Minister and the commissioners are the ministers. NOT ONE of them was elected by the people, nor was there ever an EU people's vote on the constitution! (No-votes in F, NL were ignored, IRL blackmailed.) =>EU is a dictatorship.
@ccd101 I disagree with you concerning the extent of Van Rompuy & co's powers. The fact is that, today, the EU is run by the different heads of states (especially Sarkozy and Merkel) who are directly elected by the european people. Lately, more and more, the EU parliament is scraping power away from those heads of states. But that doesn't make the EU less democratic because those MP's are also elected directly by the people.
"the EU is run by the different heads of states (especially Sarkozy and Merkel) who are directly elected by the european people."
The "rotating presidency" has no formal power and only acts for 6 months, each. Sarkozy was only elected by (part of) the French, not by 500 million EU citizens!
"Lately, more and more, the EU parliament is scraping power away from those heads of states."
The EU parliament can only "nod thru" decisions made by the commission unelected by the people.
@ccd101 When talking about the heads of state, I wasn't refering to the rotating presidency. You're right, that's just an irrelevant bit of protocol. I was talking about the EU Council with all the heads of state. All the elected EU leaders are represented there and, of course, bigger countries have more influence.
As for the parliament, it doesn't just "nod through". If a law does not please the majority, it votes against it. Same thing for the new commision.
No, usually it's the UNelected ministers (not PMs) who make up the EU Council (e.g. if the topic is agriculture, then it's the agr. ministers). Btw, the EU Council is a violation of the legal principle of separation of powers, because executive politicians (ministers) act as a legislative body!
"the parliament, it doesn't just "nod through"."
If it doesn't nod (rare), the unelected commission has another go. But EP can't make laws.
@ccd101 The real problem with the EU is not so much its democratic deficit but rather the fact that it is too "nosy". The EU is right to impose certain rules to nations and try to reach convergence. However, this convergence should be "a convergence of ends" and not a "convergence of means". It's okay to ask countries to be competitive and reduce their budget deficits, just don't tell them how to do it. Each country has its specificities and the EU should respect that.
"The real problem with the EU is not so much its democratic deficit but rather the fact that it is too "nosy"."
The real problem is *both*.
"It's okay to ask countries to be competitive and reduce their budget deficits, just don't tell them how to do it."
For this, you don't need a "superstate". Let's be clear about this: The goal of the EU is to become "United States of Europe" in the NWO framework. Everything else is just pretexts and excuses.
@ccd101 However, I totally agree with you on the fact that the Lisbon "treaty" is in fact a constitution (meaning that it has more power than the politicians made us believe) and that it should have been voted for/against by the european people. A system should have been put in place to let countries that want more integration push forward, and countries worried about national sovereignty stay out.
Dani Rodrik's latest book "The Globalization Paradox" is a great read on this exact subject.
hahaha what a silly argument for secret votings, in normal society, if there are any, that have nothing to hide and have no lies hidden there is no need for secret votings, truth don't need any secrecy only lie needs it
It's a very fair point that electing a president of the commission, council etc. would confer more state-hood than the present system.
But if the EU is not a state, why does it have a parliament?
"A parliament is a legislature, [...] It acquired its modern meaning as it came to be used for the body of people (in an institutional sense) who would meet to discuss matters of state."
Well EU is far from democratic, it is an attempt at a truly thorough political union or whatever, but what bothers me is that national govts, such as UK's is avoiding the referendum. Thats what should bother people (especially in UK), not so much an appointed bureaucrat such as Baroso.
WTF is Barroso talking about when he says "Britain has done more for representative democracy"?? LOL!!! We haven't had a referrendum on the EU Constitution & Britain has an antique electoral system called First Past the Post! It is the most UN-representative system in Europe!!
Now we're being 'offered' the Alternative Vote system which is yet another cowardly sell-out by those Lib/Dem turncoats who 'promised' to fight for PR & didn't even fight for AV+
@slim5782 which assole, Farage ? He was elected through proportional representation, with his party "UKIP" getting a little more in the share of UK seats than the 16,5% of votes in the UK the list got. EU elections give a clear detail of the political spectrum. Eurosceptics represent at least 1/7 of the Parliament, not counting those who spring up from nowhere on national issues.
Get us out of the EUSSR now before the revolution grows, because we will get our freedom's and rights back one way or another. Freedom isn't free and people are starting to wake up, the next step is mass protests like Greece and Italy, then it will be violent aggression towards the control system and finally it will be OFF WITH THERE HEADS.
@eyeswideopennimrod 1: the EU is literally nothing like the USSR, so just using wordplay and putting an E at the beginning does not make it clever. 2: obviously your opinion is as valid as anybody else's but spouting rubbish doesn't contribute to a civilised argument. 3: the vast majority of people in Greece and Italy aren't protesting against the EU, rather their national governments for harsh austerity measures which to some extent are unavoidable given the financial crisis in Europe.
@trico0712 So the fact that the people of all the nations within the EUSSR did not have a say, or if they did it must be a YES vote or it will be re voted on or ignored, or is it the fact 6 of the 26 unelected presidents of the EUSSR are ex communist party members that make me liken it to the USSR. If Greece, Italy, Ireland or Spain could control the value of there money, then they could get themselves out of the financial mess they have been forced into by been part of this experiment.
Bar0sso is a Bilderberg member, he is a puppet 0f the internati0nal BANKING cartel.
The brainwashed and confused people out there will eventually wake to his LIES/SELLOUTS and the EU - BANKERS takeover released as ONE WORLD ORDER agenda, once the evidence is presented.
"Secret election"? He actually claimed that a SECRET election gives him legitimacy? What kind of idiot is he? More importantly this proves just how undemocratic and imperial this body is. Democracy is a joke without transparency, and secret elections are about as laughable a joke as I have ever heard.
@Hashishin13 The EU treaties state that the Parliament should represent the general interest. Now here's the argument: EU MPs are elected within their nations or even regions, so they are accountable only to them. In Canada, an Alberta politician has to defend tar sands no matter the general consequences, otherwise he is not reelected. If you tell what they voted for, it is no longer the general interest. This is why in the EU Parliament you can have a secret vote if 20% of MPs ask for one.
@Monkeyshouts So basically your saying that when these people decide to have a secret election they do so specifically because they know that there vote will not represent the people who elected them? Also you sound as if this is a good thing? It's representative democracy, if they aren't representing their electorate then they are probably representing whoever is giving them money, i.e. this new governmental body or their campaign donaters.
@Hashishin13 Not a good thing for sure, but what is the worst burden? What lobbyists, who are the most concerned about transnational legislation, say, letting MPs to their choice? (NGOs do lobby too) Or party discipline? I don't think the latter helps debating. Money and bribery is not as huge a factor as it can be in the US: Proportional representation means that a seat can't be threatened by a conservative puppet.
@Monkeyshouts Proportional representation =/= Democracy. You can talk it up all you want, but in the end it still comes down to the essence of the philosophy, of which you speak there is nothing but excuses and baah baah sheep sounds.
@DOHC2L I don't see the link with P.R. because the symptoms you just gave also concern Parliaments with members elected in single-winner constituencies, which usually end up with 2 parties and independants. I defend the actual P.R. for the European Union because we actually don't have a EU-wide democracy, Latvians and French and Maltese don't talk to each other or campaign together, so the best to me is to send each national political spectrum, in all its shades, to Strasbourg and Brussels.
@DOHC2L You're saying 'no' to an open question. The question was about the usefullness of P.R. and you made a good point before, with P.R. everything boils down to the proportions. What I said is that, with all the national differences, the picture is blurred. The UK Labour delegation are more free-marketeer than some Southern LibDems or Conservatives! (like Barroso). And Scandinavian Conservatives way more progressive than their Eastern colleagues. What do you say? Ok. Baaah. Baah.
How can Mr Barroso say that people dont have respect for the european union if he is the one who dont have respect for the people by saying it was elected with secret votes and not even let the people vote! This is tyranny and only means they can do whatever they want!RESPECT
@Leifthrasir yeah maybe they are but still able to see that this parliament is a totalitarian system which steels the rights of the EU countries/citizines ;)
@Leifthrasir so you had the chance to vote for or against herman van rampoy? you had the chance to vote for or against the libsabon treaty? you had the chance to say something against that they ignored the irish no vote? tell me how you made that
@Taroth21 Herman van Rampoy was nominated by the leaders of EU states who were democratically elected. The Lisbon treaty was passed in each state in accordance to each states constitution. The majority of Irish people voted no in the first place becasue they didn't know enough about it. Which was corrected for the 2nd vote. With a even larger voter turn out making the 2nd vote even more representative of the Irish people than the 1st. The EU is not perfect but it is gradually getting there.
@Leifthrasir But we the people have no chance to remove or account him. We had NOT vote him so it is NOT democratic..
And the EU is not even fine or nice it is a disaster which will lead us all in a crisis. Greek is only the beginning! Maybe you cant see this but they give big credits from state to state which is illegal and then they let pay the problems which were caust because of the euro by the people. That is take the money from the people and give it into the hands of the banks.
@Leifthrasir with the lissabon treaty they are able to control every single state in the EU. You will see the eu states will become to police states. the eu wants his own army. this is all just about controlling us.. i cant find a dmn good thing in the eu and the lisabon treaty!
Barroso may have the respect of the EU parliment, but no body in europe repsects him, or even knows who he is. You build a country like you build a church from the ground up. You give power to the people so that the building can be strong. If you take away the power from the people the building becomes weak with no foundations and it crumbles away. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE THEIR OWN FUTURE
The Farage's suggestion that Barroso is ignored by Russia because Russians are concerned about his democratic legitimacy really made me laugh for about five minutes. Russia and North Korea: The guardians of democratic values in the world.
My good evry time i listen to this barosso i get a feeling and a look like van rumpoy = total confusion ! what is he talking about ?? the man talks in cirkels and cirkels and my good !
President barroso? how is he a president? he was elected by the poeople of europe? he is not a head of state? so how can he claim the title President?
He's the president of the Commission, the word President might be misleading. He could as well be called Chairman or something. And he is elected by people who we elect, so it's not like we have no say. An btw being the President of the Commission is not being the head of state.
@maxpegasus1 - total hogwash WE DIDNT GET THE VOTE THAT WE WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS EUROPE IN THE FIRST PLACE - WE DO NOT. Give us a vote and we will show you.
@PHONEYPOLITICS First of all I have to say that your capital letters really impress me. But anyway, I thought we were talking about the choosing of Barroso for his post and not about the method of joining for the member countries. And also the following countries have voted on joining the EU: Ireland, Norway, Denmark, Austria, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Malta, Slovenia, Hungary, Lithuania, Slovakia, Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia and Latvia. It took me google and about 10 seconds to learn this.
@maxpegasus1 Yes, but - the other states, as UK (and the others)...did not have referendum - the polititians of those countries pushed the citizens of those contries in EU whether they were ready for that or not!. In addition, EU is nothing , no state, without constitution . People need to vote for constitution - in the countries where was referendum for constitution (Ireland, Denmark) they voted NO, and this "Lisbon treaty"-was forced upon the people who did not want it, neither vote for it.
@maxpegasus1 You are wrong! Norway had a referendum some time past and the Norwegian people voted NOT to join the EU . They are however, part of the `European economic area` . As far as I am aware. Today`s date is 23-April-2011.
@InVlaanderensVelden Thank you for agreeing with me. As for the unellected rumpy, i care not how his name is spelled. But if you insist, then let me say Rompuy.
Your right,.. complaining is bad,.. we should all turn a blind eye and let everybody do what they want without criticism cause it doesnt affect us anyway.
3:32 "If I clap really loud, people will think we're all clapping!"
allamericandude15 6 days ago
you and mr van roumpoy are appointed by the friggen german bankers
wayne17700 6 days ago
barossio you are a fucken dick head
wayne17700 6 days ago
Tell me, dipshit Barosso, if I don't know how my MEP is using MY EU votes to influence EU bills, how can I make an informed decision on how he's representing me?
Disgusting fascist fuck.
aidanjt 1 week ago
I for one can't wait for the day they catch Shhultz and Barosso in a cupboard interfering with each other, Just hope it gets on YouTube:).
Kresnov 2 weeks ago
The guts to wear that shirt and tie....
ravenpt 2 weeks ago
Where could I cast my vote for this secret, democratic election?? Oh wait, I cant..that dosent sound like a democracy at all..actually this exactly what america is doing..just bigger and more stupid then any other piece of land in the world
djtoneLOK 2 weeks ago
Kindergarden
750sedan 2 weeks ago
Schultz ,what a wanker. I wonder how long it will be before I could be arrested for saying that on Youtube?
sysmoute 2 weeks ago
27 dictorships!
Spazur 3 weeks ago
barroso is a cloud
europe is a fucking mess
MIIGUELFERREIRA 3 weeks ago
barroso is a beatch
MIIGUELFERREIRA 3 weeks ago
27 chefs have completely spoilt the broth
nick10791 1 month ago
The bankers are on the ropes HA HA HA
lonewolf2297 1 month ago
The EU has been some moronic shit that it seems no one really wanted from the start. If governement in Europe and America keep growing and getting even more convoluted, I fear there will be a massive revolution in the western world in my lifetime.
IanHimself28 1 month ago
So he's sort of like the pope. Elected in secret, by a group of people and not by the populace (or the majority of members of his religion). Then, like the pope, can we not treat him as merely an adviser who's advice we can ignore when it does not fit with the populace's views or wants?
Zennaphobia 1 month ago 6
Freaking Schulz what is his freaking problem..
MrRatchet08 1 month ago 2
2:28 - 3:14 Is what this is all about. It's like a play. This can't be serious. Kids in school behave better or listen to the "teacher" better.
Nobody cares about you there. It's just one big show and you're still losing jobs and the general standard of living is lowered slowly. We're all just one herd of nice little slaves. We were tought to behave and listen while the "big guys" act like free big guys with free big mouths.
RealTrueTarget 1 month ago
Tha club of hienas.
MrGorongosa 1 month ago 2
This ugly thing named Barroso is beyond the nausea, he is absolutely repulsive. If I had, even in the most remote circumstances, someone publicly exposing me by telling inescapable truths in my face just like that british gentleman did, I swear I would dig a hole in the ground and stick my head in it. This Barroso is miserable server of the global elite. Please make no mistake, I'm a portuguese citizen, I know what I'm talking about.
CMLLIS 1 month ago
@CMLLIS unfortunately we cant inport politicians like the british guy are mr. bloom :C
zedeco 1 month ago
The illusion off democracies
MegaBeestenboel 1 month ago
elected by about 100 people, though supposed to represent millions..... yeah thats fair and democratic
lousaffire 1 month ago
where can i cast my secret vote in a secret democracy ?
b44rt 1 month ago
democrazy
alexanderkirkegaard 1 month ago
What a joke - secretly elected.
408Magenta 1 month ago
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They always fall for the trap without realizing what Farage is doing, can we clone that man?
karldoyle2 1 month ago
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karldoyle2 1 month ago
wow there really are people trying to take over the world first financially
xmasterfunk 1 month ago
Barroso truly is full of shit.. Bilderberger tool.
aakkoin 1 month ago
A Secret Vote!
God save us.
itsinmynamechap 1 month ago
Elected by secret.
Hahahah! That's the way to go.
Hitler and Stalin was also elected by secret...
Totuus2011 2 months ago
@Totuus2011 I'm not sure about Stalin but I do know that Hitler certainly wasn't. The Nazi party elected Hitler as president of their political party and had the majority 52% of the votes in the election. It's strange that Hitler's election was more democratic then the EU.
ThatArcticFoxGuy 1 month ago
@ThatArcticFoxGuy Yes. That is how bad this really is. There was more democracy in nazi-Germany than E.U.S.S.R.
Totuus2011 1 month ago
IT GETS ME REALLY UPSET TO SEE THE EU RIDE ROUGHSHOD OVER DEMOCRACY
LeamingtonSteve 2 months ago
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skinworld01 2 months ago
my left ear enjoyed this video
automaterialism 2 months ago
hahaha....secret vote !! what a scumbag......one bullet bang !!
biskalero 2 months ago
Europeans need to stop believing their socialist brainwashing media, telling them to hate the British, and instead JOIN US to fight the EU and take back freedom and democracy. The EU will be the ruin of you all after the events of today. If eurozone nations meekly sit by and let their leaders create a EUSSR there will be no going back. The best thing you can hope for is to be isolated from the EUSSR!
asdasdasdfdfd333 2 months ago
@asdasdasdfdfd33 We'll join you! Where do we sign??
LVwithoutNumbers1 2 months ago
@asdasdasdfdfd333 We share the same opinion!
MightyPhilou 2 months ago
@asdasdasdfdfd333 YOU need to get rid of the queen and the royal family. THe US was founded because British people hated the Royal Family and left. Finish the job. Hang the Queen and may royals from around the world be slaughtered
SerotoninRush 2 months ago
In Europe we are seeking to create a movement to take back our freedom and replace the EU with a European Confederation.
Visit my channel and watch my new animated video entitled "European Action".
Thank you folks!
Dankeschön liebe Leute!
TheEuropeanAction 2 months ago
@TheEuropeanAction sorry, you're too fascist for me.
LeamingtonSteve 2 months ago
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"Visit my channel to see my new animated video about regaining European freedom entitled "European Action".
Thank you folks!
Dankeschön liebe Leute!"
DeutschesLeid 3 months ago
ahahah... these are the guys who are screwing it all up...
sommoesupremo 3 months ago
27 democracies?
I don't see any democracies.
DefectivePoliceFarce 3 months ago 18
@DefectivePoliceFarce
I only see burocrats
MrDemilord 2 months ago
@DefectivePoliceFarce 51% pwns 49% and tells 49% how life has to be lived. That's democracy and it's happening all over the place. Then there's also corruption everywhere but that's another story.
RealTrueTarget 1 month ago
@DefectivePoliceFarce There's only one really democracy on the European continent, and it's not part of the political union.
drydust999 1 month ago
Who's that Barosso arse-licker with the glasses, sat at seat 6? Ive seen him loads of times, and he really is a bitter man towards Nigel and UKIP.
EU is utter corruption. End EU now!
geography27 3 months ago
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Man I can't stop LMFAO!! he says"I was elected by this parliament in a secret vote " SECRET VOTE LMFAO!!! WELL MR BARROSO I ENJOYED THAT enormously LOL! OMG secret vote and he brags about it likes that's OK
mickey7411 3 months ago
I'am from Poland, so I know what I'am saing - chief of EU parlament Buzek is an agent of old regiment communist secret police - Walensa as well. Those assholes defends communist EU, becouse they have order from communist secret police supervisers. Only dorks can belive communism gone 20 years ago. Changed name - that's all. Traiters and communist agents are between us and makes big money from ours taxes and pretending enemies of communism and totalitarity. Bullshit - Buzek, Walensa ale agents.
liberwig 3 months ago
@liberwig I am Polish too and poeple dont listen to this GARBAGE. Sorry mate but you are not right. The communism has ended in Europe but it has large roots in post soviet area of influence countries like Poland. Thats why the best idea would be to remove all political staff in our country and place a new young decent people on their places with a degree and experience.
Anarchizer 2 months ago
@liberwig Reds under bed !!! paranoia ?
TheMOONBEAM40 2 months ago
@liberwig communism? why is it all about ideology? Cant you see who is behind this??? Really people, how can you forget !!! B.A.N.K !!!!
noonewilleverseeme 1 month ago
Finally a proper debate between Farage and Barosso; more of these please!!!! not just clips of Farage and his stupid circus! show the whole thing
including the replies to Farage's arguments, like here!
great points Barosso well done!
bbphnix 3 months ago
Wow Franklin was right I see two wolves and a lamb in this video, and it's not even a democracy.
skydome29 4 months ago
@skydome29
Fuck democracy. I want to opt out of the government.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 4 months ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Your from Belgium eh? I would want to too, I don't know plenty about Belgian politics, but I know the walloons and flemish are very divided (if you could elaborate more). But democracy is fragile, its a balance of rules which can be exploited for extremism very quickly; its greatest strength can also be its greatest flaw. As an outsider (canada) I find it difficult to believe that the EU still exists and is able to do what its been doing unopposed.
skydome29 4 months ago
OMG just hold a referedum on the EU because we are either gonna leave through a referedum or sometime next year we will be forced out of the EU because with the way its going the EU isn't gonna last as very long.
gladifly 4 months ago 2
this fucker means secret ballot, but i think that's a cover for when he messed up before exposing himself
toplicajakovljevic 4 months ago
what a shirt/tie combo
woe
deIeteThisComment 4 months ago
Martin Schulz should be assassinated. Fucking fascist son of a bitch.
Always the one scraming loudest, we'll see how hard he's gonna scream when the revolution comes and we will be stoning him to death in front of the EU parliament.
man1192803 4 months ago
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bbphnix 3 months ago
Mr. Nigel Farage at school... Today's lecture: European Institutions
gilgarces1 4 months ago
sorry nigle. that referendum just aint going to happen any time soon.
CommanderMethos 4 months ago
When you anti-EU morons vote in your countries, do you vote secretly, yes or no?
Of course you vote secretly. That's what parliaments do as well in most cases.
Seventh7Art 5 months ago
@Seventh7Art of course that if I am not representing anyone I vote secretly. This is not the case. MEPs or any other voted representative at all shall not vote secretly because there is no way to check how they are representing citizens who voted for them.
If I want someone to represent me then I need to know what he does so I can revoke him or not vote him next ballots!
Don't represent people if you are scared of people seeing what you're voting for in their name!
klipeto 4 months ago
@Seventh7Art Secret ballot votes are fine for citizens, but when an elected official cast his vote it should be out in the open, so that his constituency can see that he is following the wishes of the people who put him in his seat. To have secret ballots in parliament is disgraceful; if you are to represent a group of people, you should be held accountable for your performance!
PompaTG 4 months ago
It makes me sad and happy insame time. Sad as I wish Poland had politicians as Farage. And happy cause at least there is somebody liek that out there...
34beret 6 months ago
why is farage wearing a headset while barroso is talking english to him?
Tatabangyah 6 months ago
@Tatabangyah It's not a headset, it's a bullshit filter ;-)
feonor26 5 months ago
Shut up you fat pig. Except Farage and maybe a few people. The EU Parliment is full of idiots.
StaticLord 7 months ago
EU=Fascists
temudjin1155 7 months ago
secret vote?
faanunu 7 months ago
lol the pink shirt and polka dot pink tie is so badass, boss and ace
fuxu123 7 months ago
Rumpoy!
GlobalMafiaWatch 8 months ago
All im gonna say is that if UK left the EU we would just sit and watch while they become more powerful and Britain get pushed to the bottom of the pile and we will have as much influence as Greenland!
Sawdy07 8 months ago
@Sawdy07 the UK doesnt want to tell other countries what to do and no country has the right to do so. we want to be free from the stupid EU regulations cuasing us economic harm.
if you think EU have real influence in the case of their military your right but its at the expense of the taxpayer.
if you support the EU your a fascist plain and simple.
lying2ureself 5 months ago
@Sawdy07 All I'm goimg to say is we have no influence in EU right now we watch while they become more powerful and Britain gets pushed to the bottom of the pile. We pay a lot of money to the EU but get very little in return if it wasn't for the rebate which they want to stop we would be the largest contributer to GDP.
Jools3639 5 months ago
HAHAHAH, "I was elected by this parliament in a secret vote " said it all really about the E.U .
PEABALLS 8 months ago 38
@PEABALLS He was Selected by his friends, not elected by a majority of populance!
JohnsonRoid 1 month ago 2
The respect of the E.U. Parliament is NOT the respect of the people who unfortunately are the populous of this CRAP!
s13hgp 9 months ago
all we have to do is, leave the eu
then we can let them do what they want, that way we wont go down with them
rareisalive 9 months ago
It is time to give the people of Britain the right to vote on the E.U membership, let the people decide who governs, parliamentary ratification is not acceptable on this issue, this country as a right to a say and we want it, lets put this to bed finally, whether it be a yes or a no. I'm not interested how ohther countries voted, I want to know what the British want and let them decide. This is their land
alexandertory 9 months ago
@loeghat I laughed at that one XD
No because of mocking, but because it's so true!!!
Finni100 10 months ago
Colleagues, colleagues, comrades, cough cough, colleagues...
miavaso 10 months ago
This polititian elite is just disguisting ! Bravo Nigel, thank you.
TatianaMichaela 1 year ago
i was voted god in a secret vote you cunt barosso or borroso and my first act is to burn you in hell
butchd2010 1 year ago
EUX.TV now censoring sound ?! this sham union needs to end quickly. I'm Portuguese and peacefull, but I'm feeling robbed of my democracy..... and so do many other people who unfortunately cannot articulate their own opinion.......
manelmariarodrigues 1 year ago
Barroso says that because the EU is not a state, it doesn't have a president, to be elected by the people. But it DOES have a president! (Van Rompuy) So why is he not elected by the people??
ccd101 1 year ago
@ccd101 The EU does not have a president. There are 3 presidents representing its 3 core institutions: Barroso, Van Rompuy, and Buzek from Portugal, Belgium, and Poland representing the commission, the council, and the parliament. They represent these institutions. If they represented the whole european people, then there would be a EU wide citizen vote. On top of that, the members of the parliament and the council are directly elected by the people.
vinceyo1989 1 year ago
@vinceyo1989
"The EU does not have a president."
Officially, the EU does not have a constitution either ("it's just a treaty!"), but when you scratch away the propaganda, the "Lisbon treaty" is the EU constitution, Van Rompuy is the EU president, Barroso is the EU Prime Minister and the commissioners are the ministers. NOT ONE of them was elected by the people, nor was there ever an EU people's vote on the constitution! (No-votes in F, NL were ignored, IRL blackmailed.) =>EU is a dictatorship.
ccd101 1 year ago
@ccd101 I disagree with you concerning the extent of Van Rompuy & co's powers. The fact is that, today, the EU is run by the different heads of states (especially Sarkozy and Merkel) who are directly elected by the european people. Lately, more and more, the EU parliament is scraping power away from those heads of states. But that doesn't make the EU less democratic because those MP's are also elected directly by the people.
vinceyo1989 11 months ago
@vinceyo1989
"the EU is run by the different heads of states (especially Sarkozy and Merkel) who are directly elected by the european people."
The "rotating presidency" has no formal power and only acts for 6 months, each. Sarkozy was only elected by (part of) the French, not by 500 million EU citizens!
"Lately, more and more, the EU parliament is scraping power away from those heads of states."
The EU parliament can only "nod thru" decisions made by the commission unelected by the people.
ccd101 11 months ago
@ccd101 When talking about the heads of state, I wasn't refering to the rotating presidency. You're right, that's just an irrelevant bit of protocol. I was talking about the EU Council with all the heads of state. All the elected EU leaders are represented there and, of course, bigger countries have more influence.
As for the parliament, it doesn't just "nod through". If a law does not please the majority, it votes against it. Same thing for the new commision.
vinceyo1989 11 months ago
@vinceyo1989
"the EU Council with all the heads of state"
No, usually it's the UNelected ministers (not PMs) who make up the EU Council (e.g. if the topic is agriculture, then it's the agr. ministers). Btw, the EU Council is a violation of the legal principle of separation of powers, because executive politicians (ministers) act as a legislative body!
"the parliament, it doesn't just "nod through"."
If it doesn't nod (rare), the unelected commission has another go. But EP can't make laws.
ccd101 11 months ago
@ccd101 The real problem with the EU is not so much its democratic deficit but rather the fact that it is too "nosy". The EU is right to impose certain rules to nations and try to reach convergence. However, this convergence should be "a convergence of ends" and not a "convergence of means". It's okay to ask countries to be competitive and reduce their budget deficits, just don't tell them how to do it. Each country has its specificities and the EU should respect that.
vinceyo1989 11 months ago
@vinceyo1989
"The real problem with the EU is not so much its democratic deficit but rather the fact that it is too "nosy"."
The real problem is *both*.
"It's okay to ask countries to be competitive and reduce their budget deficits, just don't tell them how to do it."
For this, you don't need a "superstate". Let's be clear about this: The goal of the EU is to become "United States of Europe" in the NWO framework. Everything else is just pretexts and excuses.
ccd101 11 months ago
@ccd101 However, I totally agree with you on the fact that the Lisbon "treaty" is in fact a constitution (meaning that it has more power than the politicians made us believe) and that it should have been voted for/against by the european people. A system should have been put in place to let countries that want more integration push forward, and countries worried about national sovereignty stay out.
Dani Rodrik's latest book "The Globalization Paradox" is a great read on this exact subject.
vinceyo1989 11 months ago
hahaha what a silly argument for secret votings, in normal society, if there are any, that have nothing to hide and have no lies hidden there is no need for secret votings, truth don't need any secrecy only lie needs it
MrClinior 1 year ago
negative comments keep dimocracy alive
HappyNeil 1 year ago
It's a very fair point that electing a president of the commission, council etc. would confer more state-hood than the present system.
But if the EU is not a state, why does it have a parliament?
"A parliament is a legislature, [...] It acquired its modern meaning as it came to be used for the body of people (in an institutional sense) who would meet to discuss matters of state."
luvdupraver 1 year ago
Well EU is far from democratic, it is an attempt at a truly thorough political union or whatever, but what bothers me is that national govts, such as UK's is avoiding the referendum. Thats what should bother people (especially in UK), not so much an appointed bureaucrat such as Baroso.
miljenko1 1 year ago
It looks like a very much fun.
al4484 1 year ago
"Secret Vote" Shot himself in the foot!
fdosdesign 1 year ago
WTF is Barroso talking about when he says "Britain has done more for representative democracy"?? LOL!!! We haven't had a referrendum on the EU Constitution & Britain has an antique electoral system called First Past the Post! It is the most UN-representative system in Europe!!
Now we're being 'offered' the Alternative Vote system which is yet another cowardly sell-out by those Lib/Dem turncoats who 'promised' to fight for PR & didn't even fight for AV+
"Representative democracy" Mr Baroso? Pah!
ejbh3160 1 year ago
He says: "I was elected by SECRET vote." Says it all really lol
raven2000ka2 1 year ago
He says: "I was elected by SECRET vote." Says it all really lol
raven2000ka2 1 year ago
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superdouradas 1 year ago
why do they let this asshole in the eu parlement
slim5782 1 year ago
@slim5782 which assole, Farage ? He was elected through proportional representation, with his party "UKIP" getting a little more in the share of UK seats than the 16,5% of votes in the UK the list got. EU elections give a clear detail of the political spectrum. Eurosceptics represent at least 1/7 of the Parliament, not counting those who spring up from nowhere on national issues.
Monkeyshouts 1 year ago
I'm German and I HATE this fucking Nazi Martin Schulz! He is SUCH a disgrace!
angel2901 1 year ago
Barroso got Faraged, biig time!!
widerling 1 year ago
Get us out of the EUSSR now before the revolution grows, because we will get our freedom's and rights back one way or another. Freedom isn't free and people are starting to wake up, the next step is mass protests like Greece and Italy, then it will be violent aggression towards the control system and finally it will be OFF WITH THERE HEADS.
eyeswideopennimrod 1 year ago
@eyeswideopennimrod 1: the EU is literally nothing like the USSR, so just using wordplay and putting an E at the beginning does not make it clever. 2: obviously your opinion is as valid as anybody else's but spouting rubbish doesn't contribute to a civilised argument. 3: the vast majority of people in Greece and Italy aren't protesting against the EU, rather their national governments for harsh austerity measures which to some extent are unavoidable given the financial crisis in Europe.
trico0712 1 year ago
@trico0712 So the fact that the people of all the nations within the EUSSR did not have a say, or if they did it must be a YES vote or it will be re voted on or ignored, or is it the fact 6 of the 26 unelected presidents of the EUSSR are ex communist party members that make me liken it to the USSR. If Greece, Italy, Ireland or Spain could control the value of there money, then they could get themselves out of the financial mess they have been forced into by been part of this experiment.
eyeswideopennimrod 1 year ago
PR0TEST against Bilderberg meeting, 2008,
YT links on forum:
forum . prisonplanet . com/index . php?topic=46749.0
americanfreepress . net / Bilderberg_2008_Report . pdf
americanfreepress . net / html / bilderberg_exposed . html
americanfreepress . net / html / obama_bilderbergers_160 . html
irishtimes . com / newspaper / ireland / 2009 / 0907/1224253999648 . html
conferencedemontreal . com / fileadmin / pdf / 2009 / Program . pdf
etc..
Clubdj14 1 year ago
Lisb0n/E.U. Treaty = TREASON
Bar0sso is a Bilderberg member, he is a puppet 0f the internati0nal BANKING cartel.
The brainwashed and confused people out there will eventually wake to his LIES/SELLOUTS and the EU - BANKERS takeover released as ONE WORLD ORDER agenda, once the evidence is presented.
Clubdj14 1 year ago
Russian and UK propagandists hate the EU. But Internationalism is the future. Nationalism died in the 40s.
fateswarm1 1 year ago
nazi-schultz is heckling again.
it is the only thing he is actually good at allthough very childish behaviour
voiceofgreatsanity 1 year ago
"Secret election"? He actually claimed that a SECRET election gives him legitimacy? What kind of idiot is he? More importantly this proves just how undemocratic and imperial this body is. Democracy is a joke without transparency, and secret elections are about as laughable a joke as I have ever heard.
Hashishin13 1 year ago
@Hashishin13 The EU treaties state that the Parliament should represent the general interest. Now here's the argument: EU MPs are elected within their nations or even regions, so they are accountable only to them. In Canada, an Alberta politician has to defend tar sands no matter the general consequences, otherwise he is not reelected. If you tell what they voted for, it is no longer the general interest. This is why in the EU Parliament you can have a secret vote if 20% of MPs ask for one.
Monkeyshouts 1 year ago
@Monkeyshouts So basically your saying that when these people decide to have a secret election they do so specifically because they know that there vote will not represent the people who elected them? Also you sound as if this is a good thing? It's representative democracy, if they aren't representing their electorate then they are probably representing whoever is giving them money, i.e. this new governmental body or their campaign donaters.
Hashishin13 1 year ago
@Hashishin13 Not a good thing for sure, but what is the worst burden? What lobbyists, who are the most concerned about transnational legislation, say, letting MPs to their choice? (NGOs do lobby too) Or party discipline? I don't think the latter helps debating. Money and bribery is not as huge a factor as it can be in the US: Proportional representation means that a seat can't be threatened by a conservative puppet.
Monkeyshouts 1 year ago
@Monkeyshouts Proportional representation =/= Democracy. You can talk it up all you want, but in the end it still comes down to the essence of the philosophy, of which you speak there is nothing but excuses and baah baah sheep sounds.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L I don't see the link with P.R. because the symptoms you just gave also concern Parliaments with members elected in single-winner constituencies, which usually end up with 2 parties and independants. I defend the actual P.R. for the European Union because we actually don't have a EU-wide democracy, Latvians and French and Maltese don't talk to each other or campaign together, so the best to me is to send each national political spectrum, in all its shades, to Strasbourg and Brussels.
Monkeyshouts 1 year ago
@Monkeyshouts baah baah you sound like a sheep
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L You're saying 'no' to an open question. The question was about the usefullness of P.R. and you made a good point before, with P.R. everything boils down to the proportions. What I said is that, with all the national differences, the picture is blurred. The UK Labour delegation are more free-marketeer than some Southern LibDems or Conservatives! (like Barroso). And Scandinavian Conservatives way more progressive than their Eastern colleagues. What do you say? Ok. Baaah. Baah.
Monkeyshouts 1 year ago
How can Mr Barroso say that people dont have respect for the european union if he is the one who dont have respect for the people by saying it was elected with secret votes and not even let the people vote! This is tyranny and only means they can do whatever they want!RESPECT
TheBrightconscious 1 year ago
Russia is a mafia state. They dislike the EU.
Nigel is just being a clown as always.
Leifthrasir 1 year ago
@Leifthrasir yeah maybe they are but still able to see that this parliament is a totalitarian system which steels the rights of the EU countries/citizines ;)
Taroth21 1 year ago
@Taroth21 How can the parliament be totalitarian when it is democratically elected?
Leifthrasir 1 year ago
@Leifthrasir so you had the chance to vote for or against herman van rampoy? you had the chance to vote for or against the libsabon treaty? you had the chance to say something against that they ignored the irish no vote? tell me how you made that
Taroth21 1 year ago
@Taroth21 Herman van Rampoy was nominated by the leaders of EU states who were democratically elected. The Lisbon treaty was passed in each state in accordance to each states constitution. The majority of Irish people voted no in the first place becasue they didn't know enough about it. Which was corrected for the 2nd vote. With a even larger voter turn out making the 2nd vote even more representative of the Irish people than the 1st. The EU is not perfect but it is gradually getting there.
Leifthrasir 1 year ago
@Leifthrasir But we the people have no chance to remove or account him. We had NOT vote him so it is NOT democratic..
And the EU is not even fine or nice it is a disaster which will lead us all in a crisis. Greek is only the beginning! Maybe you cant see this but they give big credits from state to state which is illegal and then they let pay the problems which were caust because of the euro by the people. That is take the money from the people and give it into the hands of the banks.
Taroth21 1 year ago
@Leifthrasir with the lissabon treaty they are able to control every single state in the EU. You will see the eu states will become to police states. the eu wants his own army. this is all just about controlling us.. i cant find a dmn good thing in the eu and the lisabon treaty!
Taroth21 1 year ago 3
@Leifthrasir "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
Hashishin13 1 year ago
@Leifthrasir "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
Hashishin13 1 year ago
Barroso may have the respect of the EU parliment, but no body in europe repsects him, or even knows who he is. You build a country like you build a church from the ground up. You give power to the people so that the building can be strong. If you take away the power from the people the building becomes weak with no foundations and it crumbles away. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE THEIR OWN FUTURE
ccclllsport 1 year ago
The Farage's suggestion that Barroso is ignored by Russia because Russians are concerned about his democratic legitimacy really made me laugh for about five minutes. Russia and North Korea: The guardians of democratic values in the world.
vanessirac 1 year ago
My good evry time i listen to this barosso i get a feeling and a look like van rumpoy = total confusion ! what is he talking about ?? the man talks in cirkels and cirkels and my good !
caligor89 1 year ago
Nigel needs to be cloned and help us all.
MsCookie1995 1 year ago
EU/Lisbon treaty = Treason.
- -
Ms Day said the (EU/Lisbon) treaty will help Europe "to speak with one voice
in helping to shape the NEW WORLD ORDER"
irishtimes . com / newspaper / ireland / 2009 / 0907/1224253999648 . html
Clubdj14 1 year ago
NWO puppets Barosso and Sarkozy are calling for a ONE WORLD ORDER:
watch?v=a7D21rPpBrk
Bilderberger Merkel call for a ONE W0RLD ORDER:
finanzen . net / nachricht / Faktien / Bundeskanzlerin-Merkel-
fuer-eine-neue-glo
bale-Ordnung-698403
Clubdj14 1 year ago
hey barroso say it don't spray it., and for God's sake get a real job making shoes or something useful
krfuffle 1 year ago 2
President barroso? how is he a president? he was elected by the poeople of europe? he is not a head of state? so how can he claim the title President?
youknowimright1 1 year ago 3
@youknowimright1
He's the president of the Commission, the word President might be misleading. He could as well be called Chairman or something. And he is elected by people who we elect, so it's not like we have no say. An btw being the President of the Commission is not being the head of state.
maxpegasus1 1 year ago 2
@maxpegasus1 - total hogwash WE DIDNT GET THE VOTE THAT WE WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS EUROPE IN THE FIRST PLACE - WE DO NOT. Give us a vote and we will show you.
PHONEYPOLITICS 1 year ago 3
@PHONEYPOLITICS First of all I have to say that your capital letters really impress me. But anyway, I thought we were talking about the choosing of Barroso for his post and not about the method of joining for the member countries. And also the following countries have voted on joining the EU: Ireland, Norway, Denmark, Austria, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Malta, Slovenia, Hungary, Lithuania, Slovakia, Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia and Latvia. It took me google and about 10 seconds to learn this.
maxpegasus1 1 year ago 8
@maxpegasus1 Yes, but - the other states, as UK (and the others)...did not have referendum - the polititians of those countries pushed the citizens of those contries in EU whether they were ready for that or not!. In addition, EU is nothing , no state, without constitution . People need to vote for constitution - in the countries where was referendum for constitution (Ireland, Denmark) they voted NO, and this "Lisbon treaty"-was forced upon the people who did not want it, neither vote for it.
TatianaMichaela 1 year ago
@maxpegasus1 You are wrong! Norway had a referendum some time past and the Norwegian people voted NOT to join the EU . They are however, part of the `European economic area` . As far as I am aware. Today`s date is 23-April-2011.
terrygand 10 months ago
@terrygand I never said that Norway voted yes, I just said which countries had a vote....
maxpegasus1 10 months ago
@maxpegasus1 Indeed sir/madam, you are quite correct. Please accept my apology; and thanks for `bringing` this to my attention !
terrygand 10 months ago
@maxpegasus1 How many times did Ireland vote?
MindCrazedBanjo 4 months ago
i'm not even joking i really did mean to hit the dislike button.
trico0712 1 year ago
Nigel smashed it...Keep it up!
UFOZ01 1 year ago 3
Barosso is a Bilderberg member, the club of LIARS.
Clubdj14 1 year ago 3
LOL
I love the way they are all smiling, grinning, even smirking!
All this talk of secrets only afirms my belief that WikiLeaks has come none too soon!
bleupeony2 1 year ago 3
As usual, Nigel tells as it is. Down with EU dictate, GO AWAY BARROSO & VAN RUMPY
No2EUsuperstate 1 year ago 34
@No2EUsuperstate
I do agree, but at least try to spell his name right. It's Van Rompuy.
InVlaanderensVelden 8 months ago
@InVlaanderensVelden Thank you for agreeing with me. As for the unellected rumpy, i care not how his name is spelled. But if you insist, then let me say Rompuy.
No2EUsuperstate 8 months ago
Barroso and Buzek are looking better than Farage and Schulz here.
pilhamu 1 year ago
bravo nigel
lordfec 1 year ago 4
Nigel Farge got owned...
Teranex 1 year ago
I hate Nigel he complaints about everything...
stroboticjr 1 year ago
@stroboticjr
Your right,.. complaining is bad,.. we should all turn a blind eye and let everybody do what they want without criticism cause it doesnt affect us anyway.
Is that what your saying?
DefendYourFreedom 1 year ago 4