The Church of Scientology has worked with the original materials, entrusted to them by L. Ron Hubbard. Some mis-publication happened for various reasons, the Church has republished from Hubbard's originals.
No, I did not say that and did not mean that. The publication differences in the 18 Basic Books range from minor to large. "Maiden Voyage 2", which you can probably view at any Church or Mission, spells out the how and why. The originals that Ron had sent to publishers were found, procured, and used as source.
Okay, I got that. -state it as simply as possible and not one iota more simply- Einstein, slightly restated by yours truly. Was the misunderstood, "procured"? It means, "obtained by legal methods.
terryeo, had you ever noticed the "mis-publication" in the 1995-2006 Ethics book which defined the 2nd Dynamic as "creativity"? I see that the new basics Ethics book has taken out "creativity".
Was it the same SP transcriptionist responsible for adding that squirrel "creativity" definition?
do you have proof that Ron entrusted these people who are wogs with his writings? You need to do your homework and find the truth. The road to true is all the way to the end, and not what others tell you.
Really people, we are each individual. Create a future and make yourself happy. But Mr. Hubbard entrusted the Church of Scientology with his works and I've attempted to communicate the current situation, the Church's republication of the basic books and the reason why.
terryeo, I asked you a simple question 3 weeks ago about the Ethics book and you never answered my question. Are you getting my comm or is it being censored?
Yes it is possible to get declared and not know it. I was given a written not at the local org on a golden colored peice of paper. I never seen the golden rod and I even asked writing it but they ignored my request. Did answer another issue though.
It is out PR to have so many declared sp but I hear lately they are even not doing so many declared even unwritten as that is out PR too.
So for me it is mostly verbal and a golden rod note to contact the IJC. I am not going back anyhow.
So if this was true why is it that Ron aproved these materials for 50 years? Why is it that they are changing them LONG after his dead? shesh! Hard to confront the lies is it not?
You go Girl this is Barb. I did post the first link to that forum. But not going to post again. I wish I can fix it all but I can't so I am teaching myself not to try so hard to do that.
I guess youtube doesn't let us reply, to a reply. Anyway Bonhornie88, I don't have the information needed to answer your question about the historical publication. The information I do have is from the "Maiden Voyage 2" CD-Rom which is pretty widely available. Bridge Publications might be able to respond, they have an email.
terryeo, open page 13 of your new 2007 Basics Ethics book and read what is the 2nd dynamic.
Now open up the Ethics book issued under Miscavige's watch from 1995 through 2006 and read and compare what is the 2nd dynamic. Oops! sorry I forgot, you cant compare them because you threw away the older version just as COB ordered you to.
did they maybe take the promises out of the OT description because they found out that it simply doesn't work?
transfixedtornado 2 years ago
The Church of Scientology has worked with the original materials, entrusted to them by L. Ron Hubbard. Some mis-publication happened for various reasons, the Church has republished from Hubbard's originals.
terryeo 4 years ago
You mean to tell me that for 30 years Ron was not smart enought o realize that there were 'errors' in his books??!!yeah sure!
I'd like to see the originals...to check per "has it been altered form the original"?
aidita2000 4 years ago
No, I did not say that and did not mean that. The publication differences in the 18 Basic Books range from minor to large. "Maiden Voyage 2", which you can probably view at any Church or Mission, spells out the how and why. The originals that Ron had sent to publishers were found, procured, and used as source.
terryeo 4 years ago
BULLSHIT
sonyagalloway 4 years ago
Okay, I got that. -state it as simply as possible and not one iota more simply- Einstein, slightly restated by yours truly. Was the misunderstood, "procured"? It means, "obtained by legal methods.
terryeo 4 years ago
terryeo, had you ever noticed the "mis-publication" in the 1995-2006 Ethics book which defined the 2nd Dynamic as "creativity"? I see that the new basics Ethics book has taken out "creativity".
Was it the same SP transcriptionist responsible for adding that squirrel "creativity" definition?
Bonhomie88 4 years ago 2
do you have proof that Ron entrusted these people who are wogs with his writings? You need to do your homework and find the truth. The road to true is all the way to the end, and not what others tell you.
aidita2000 4 years ago 2
Really people, we are each individual. Create a future and make yourself happy. But Mr. Hubbard entrusted the Church of Scientology with his works and I've attempted to communicate the current situation, the Church's republication of the basic books and the reason why.
terryeo 4 years ago
terryeo, I asked you a simple question 3 weeks ago about the Ethics book and you never answered my question. Are you getting my comm or is it being censored?
Bonhomie88 4 years ago
They are good at ignoring. I am posting to a church member on a forum and he ignored almost all the points I made.
SpiritLadyArtist 2 years ago
Making good points makes you an SP.
MrWinston1984 2 years ago
I know and they told me I am declared. Yet I was still called yesterday to go to a local event.
SpiritLadyArtist 2 years ago
When someone is declared are they notified or is it possible to someone to get declared and not even know it?
MrWinston1984 2 years ago
Yes it is possible to get declared and not know it. I was given a written not at the local org on a golden colored peice of paper. I never seen the golden rod and I even asked writing it but they ignored my request. Did answer another issue though.
It is out PR to have so many declared sp but I hear lately they are even not doing so many declared even unwritten as that is out PR too.
So for me it is mostly verbal and a golden rod note to contact the IJC. I am not going back anyhow.
SpiritLadyArtist 2 years ago
I wish I can edit my comment.
I in my last post said was, I got a written note.
SpiritLadyArtist 2 years ago
So if this was true why is it that Ron aproved these materials for 50 years? Why is it that they are changing them LONG after his dead? shesh! Hard to confront the lies is it not?
aidita2000 4 years ago 14
You go Girl this is Barb. I did post the first link to that forum. But not going to post again. I wish I can fix it all but I can't so I am teaching myself not to try so hard to do that.
SpiritLadyArtist 2 years ago 3
I looked at the new 2007 version of that book and there is no longer any "Chart of Abilities Gained".
Bonhomie88 4 years ago
I guess youtube doesn't let us reply, to a reply. Anyway Bonhornie88, I don't have the information needed to answer your question about the historical publication. The information I do have is from the "Maiden Voyage 2" CD-Rom which is pretty widely available. Bridge Publications might be able to respond, they have an email.
terryeo 4 years ago
terryeo, open page 13 of your new 2007 Basics Ethics book and read what is the 2nd dynamic.
Now open up the Ethics book issued under Miscavige's watch from 1995 through 2006 and read and compare what is the 2nd dynamic. Oops! sorry I forgot, you cant compare them because you threw away the older version just as COB ordered you to.
Bonhomie88 4 years ago 4
That's interesting! I assumed there was always a mystique surrounding the OT levels.
derekwilliams1982 4 years ago