League of Legends - S2 Jungle Singed

[Rene4Music]

does magic pen red work?

[Glamrockrapper]

@Rene4Music None of the jungle creeps have magic resistance + 8.5 Mpen won't make up for a noticeable damage. 

[iAmMazi]

what do items do i build? ive tryed a couple of things, not sure what is best though

[LegendaryMuff1n]

How did u get riot squad singed?

[Telunu]

@LegendaryMuff1n He probably bought it when it was available ;)

[Azhianator]

@LegendaryMuff1n he got it from attending a Con, cant remember which one. Either way its not available unless you want to use custom skins.

[OhMyJessicaJung]

Can Jungle singed start regrowth pendant with those runes? (choice blues being MR and quints being mspd). If not, can he with a leash?

[Lodratio]

@OhMyJessicaJung .. justtry it in a custom or if you feel confident.. a normal... ppl might rage though

[Era0fGames]

Just wondering, why do you constantly toggle poison on and off at each camp? Is it more mana efficient?

[ThinkOverIt]

@Era0fGames Yes. The poison persists on anything hit for a little while after they leave the cloud, and the cloud lasts for a while after you release it. If you're stationary, toggling saves mana. Not always good against champions, though, because if you get silenced, it sticks however it was, which may be "off'.

[BigHeadCross]

magic pen. marks works instead of the attack speed marks?

[AntogreDaOrk]

Pick Singed, runes you want, 1 boot + 3 potions. Make blue first, get E after you Q, gank after making the blue. Use ghost if necessary. Make your team do the first blood.

[tiskateur]

Ok, so you have optimized runes for jungle, but after the jungling phase, don't you have some issues to deal damage?

Yes, magic pen runes aren't of the greater use in the jungle, but later in game, when team fights occurs, don't you have issues regarding damage output?

[Adeorified]

@tiskateur 9 magic penetration isn't actually that good either..

[wizzkiller92]

@tiskateur I think you misunderstood the role of singed in a teamfight..

[tiskateur]

@wizzkiller92 I think you misunderstand the role of singed in a teamfight: Disrupting the enemy team.

If they aren't afraid of you (i.e. your damage), you're being ignored.

[Slemsvampen]

Poison drains mana every second. You turn it on every second. You don't save any mana, get some cdr and spamming like that would drain extra mana. just put it on and off and leave it off for 2 sec.

[sickcakesauce97]

lol'd at tags "occupy runeterra we are the low elo"

[Filipmkdd]

what does he buy with the cloth armor afterwards?

[jvg83]

@Filipmkdd frozen heart

[jvg83]

@myself, or randuins

[bot669]

Why dose he spam the Q.

[Filipmkdd]

@bot669 to conserve mana.

[1001Lai]

@bot669 his poison doesn't need to stay on it lasts for a while on them so he spams it to save mana. Actually, I would wait a little longer to turn it on a gain but whatever

[JagodowyJogurt]

Remember to spam laugh while you gank.

[Chibuezeh4Life]

but what would you build him first?

[digihumper]

have you found anyway to do this with a regrowth pendant?

[fauxkamie]

@digihumper all you have to do is use your thought-muffin.

look at the quints: 'choice' remove the move speeds, and add three armour quints.

18 armour from cloth is not so far removed from 15.

get a leash and you'll do fine w/ 3 less armour.

[samlool123]

You use gas in a bad way, it will cost 13 (i think it is) each sec, so you should let it be on for almost 1 sec insten of just tap on and of

[Glamrockrapper]

@samlool123 doesn't change shit.

[samlool123]

@Glamrockrapper Not much perhaps, but you will save mana instead of wasting extra

[Glamrockrapper]

@samlool123 If you turn it on, wait one sec and then turn it off, and immediatly turn it on again, it will stay the same. You should wait three seconds before turning it off. That would save mana.

[Jackonym]

Maining jungle singed.



[TheUnFailSpy]

Constantly toggling Q isn't mana efficient, his poison doesn't stack, so you only need to toggle it on every 3 seconds

[RtGFuSiOn]

Can you leave the Q on after blue? rather than toggle to save?

[Xskillna]

@RtGFuSiOn Why would you show enemy junglers where you are exactly?

[RtGFuSiOn]

@Xskillna Derp. I mean after he gets blue he still taps q on camps rather than just leaving it on. (1:07)

[Xskillna]

@RtGFuSiOn Well for starters, tapping Q doesn't really do anything, as you toggle it, and it takes 13 mana, and every second after takes 13 mana, and the toggle has a 1 second cooldown, so either way you are paying 13 mana a sec. But you should never overestimate your resources, especially in the jungle. Lotta things can happen, so it's good to be prepared.

[RtGFuSiOn]

@Xskillna By that logic, "so either way you are paying 13 mana a sec." you have answered my original comment. He keeps toggling just because he can. There is no advantage or disadvantage while you have blue buff.

[Xskillna]

@RtGFuSiOn Your welcome then.

[EelMuyKs]

stonewall i used magic penetration for red, as poison damages as AoE, yellow armor, blue mana (gives hp), speed quint. :o

[RainbowsGiveCancer]

@EelMuyKs magic pen doesn't do anything in the jungle.

[EelMuyKs]

@RainbowsGiveCancer yes it does, it gives poison better damage

[ILikeCrunchyWater]

@EelMuyKs Jungle minions other than Dragon and Baron have 0 magic resist, and magic PENETRATION doesn't lower effective magic resist below 0; only magic resist reduction does, see the lol.wikia.com page on magic penetration.

[EelMuyKs]

i did it /watch?v=uiku09R8hEY

[Toastbrot1234567]

Always liked jungle Singed.

Oh and did you know his Fling procs red buff?

It does!

[reallybigd]

Epic timing, wish we could have seen your gank attempt

[blacktiger6667]

His main advantage - minions always chase.

[plan3s]

i'd really like to know if you or elementz is going to update 3v3 list any time soon? :) the mode starts to get popular since this shiny new teams thingy has came out.

[Zerasad]

Occupy Runterra the low elo rofl.

[FIuffyPandas]

Shaco please

[Xskillna]

@FIuffyPandas Here's Stonewalls quote of the day for you. "Fuck Shaco."

[dark090491]

Challenges: Jungler Vayne and Jungler Graves

[Xskillna]

@dark090491 He did jungle Graves.

[johnnysmart777]

love the nw tags :D

[Avelice0]

What's the rationale behind running from wraiths back to wolves? I see you do this in a lot of videos, but it confuses me. It seems like you waste a bunch of run time going back to them, when just going to small golems -> Red -> wolves would be faster and still kill the same amount of creeps.

[GenDoukeshi]

@Avelice0 I suppose it would be so as to end up on the same end of the jungle as one used to still at level 4. Plus that extra time you're still recovering mana, health, and gold which you might need post blue to finish.

[Zenlaor]

@Avelice0 he does this because it allows the jungle to respawn faster which equals out to more gold and exp

[AnzaBrush]

Singed's poison drains 13 mana on activate (+13 per second thereafter), and it has a 1-second cooldown after turning it off before you can turn it on again, so flicking it on and off as fast as possible the way you did in the video doesn't actually conserve your mana: It still uses 13 per second. What you SHOULD do it wait 5-6 seconds between each puff of poison. The cloud itself lasts 3.25 seconds and the debuff lasts 3 seconds, so you lose no DPS but spend 1/5th the mana.Have I made a mistake?

[htklsl]

@AnzaBrush does he look like having mana problem ?

[AnzaBrush]

@htklsl Everyone in the comments keeps saying that he flicks the poison to conserve mana. It doesn't actually work, so I said so.

[FuRaSS]

Why do you keep turning your poison gas on and off ?

[wordock2]

@FuRaSS I'm guessing he does it to save mana. The poison is a DoT, so the DoT will last long enough that you can save about 1sec worth of mana in between activations.

[KinKoKu21]

@FuRaSS while affected by poison gas it give the enemys a debuff for like 1-2 sec, so by turning it on and off it wont waste that much mana

[earthboundisawsome]

@FuRaSS Since Singed's poison lingers in a spot for a few seconds, toggling it on and off conserves your mana while still maintaining the same damage output.

[maroonWildcard]

Dem tags.

[MegaQwerty567]

dem tags

[WutAPoet]

This look totally viable, with red working with spells now

[Contaika]

@WutAPoet Not AoEs, only single targets and skillshots.

[Thunderkleize]

Jungle monsters don't know to never chase Singed. Noobs.

[JohnnyBored]

@stonewall008 Is Stonewall008 your only account?

[chronikoflife]

I don't play singed at all but why does Stonewall keep turning his Q on and off?

[moarcakethedelicious]

@chronikoflife to save mana

[inerick]

@chronikoflife

save mana

his poison doesn't stack, so there's really no reason to just leave it on, since he keeps spamming it he uses way less mana and does the same damage.

[HEROofPhocis]

@inerick Has Teemo Q'ed you lately?

[murtaghthekiller]

dat_ganks.. o_o

[jermjrich]

Boring jungle is boring

[minutedude]

I always wanted to try jungle singed. It looks like with the new remake it could potentially work lul.

[bguerre12]

why are you tapping your Q for poison? does it really save mana?

[naievexx]

@bguerre12 Yes it does save mana. You turn it off once they are all poisoned, and turn it back on when the poison falls off. He's not rapidly tapping, just reapplying every 2 seconds.

I imagine with blue buff though that's no longer needed

[Maj0rskillz]

Singed seems too easy to jungle,lol

[Battlecop]

Put up a game of jungle singed, would be awesome to watch!

[spideyninja]

Is it even worth sending Singed to jungle?

[Darkreaper71]

@spideyninja slow + a flip, he's has volibear stuff basically (or the other way around) put in a ghost and he has great ganking potential

[Entropiestromstaerke]

thx for fulfilling my wish!

[alphabetsoup15ish]

I notice you spam your Q at camps.. is this a trick or is it just to conserve mana?

[Tiv3z]

@alphabetsoup15ish Since the posion still stays of for like 4 second when you turn it off, you can just keep turn in on and off and you wont lose that much mana

[vendetacos]

when i was 100 wins i always kept dreaming about a jungler singed...now im 1600 wins and u did it man i think i just....love u

[ZheGardenGnome]

o.O singed?

[Midaspl]

Lol... Never thought of jungle signed but he can have decent ganks (slow+fling). It does make sense.

[Kiboz96]

don't do this. singed is solo top and he will always be.

[duo1666]

Surprisingly.... this doesnt look half bad speed and hp wise and all....

[Diabien]

stupid creeps.....stop chasing singed :O

[SycnoPolicz]

Shake Shake In the Jungle!

[MrWickeedd]

Im sad i forgot to buy riot singed :(

[GlacialFang]

will mag pen work over attack speed?

[KebehQuaa]

Nidalee jungle?

[ChaseMe2TheSky]

Great music choice, as always.

[SomeCrudLayingAround]

dude singed ganks with low health and makes the laners chase him >:D epic bait time

[Cariyaga]

I checked your tier list, and Singed isn't on it at all. Is he that bad? :P

[stonewall008]

@Cariyaga he'll be added later

[GlacialFang]

@stonewall008 where can i find the tier list?

[LastMarmoset]

@Cariyaga Singed? Bad? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA no

[Manwlatsi]

Them ganks with ult/ghost/puddle/fling... Best ganker in the game. Only thing that holds him back is lack of farm in the jungle.

[BrothersInRage]

Who else is the 301 th viewer?

[xblizkx]

Jungle xin s2 pl0x

[thenick613]

Hey Stonewall, why do you always come back to wolves? Its a lot faster to go wraiths>golems>red>wraiths imo

[DaMsEdge]

@thenick613 more exp

[code9527]

@thenick613 but wothout XP runes or Masteries u wont be lvl 4 after wolfes, blue, wraiths, golems, red, wraiths =)

[xstormratx]

Play jungle singed two days ago and it's actually really good.

[freezman13]

who is the fastest junlgler for you ?

[DigitalScare]

@freezman13 I believe he said udyr.

[Sasuke9717]

@freezman13 he said shyvana b4 but with the new jungle, dont know

[ArcanePinha]

@freezman13 He said a couple times it was Skarner, but i don't know if Shyvana has beaten him already, with her ridiculously awesome MS :D

[alebolso92]

@freezman13 that must be shyvana

[MultiShak12]

@freezman13 i think shyvana..

[Seraphita2k]

@freezman13 udyr with aoe w as fucking fast. like 3:20 or so

[BolsDrinker]

@freezman13 KARTHUS

[TheInfectous]

@freezman13 shyvana or karthus probably still karthus being blue reliant and cant really farm the jungle the entire game

[m0stlyharmless42]

Oh man, team battle this shizz!

[ZenAegiis]

Haha nice tags.

[chump020596]

@ZenAegiis we are the low elo :D

[xXxMasterMachetexXx]

could you make kennen please? or isnt it possible?

[SilentKill9000]

<3



[ELiT3G0bLiN]

should calm down with the q toggling lol, although you probably only did the spamming to keep it on. I'd wait for the poison to wear off before toggling it on again.

[laurelinril]

oh shit, imagine singed running out of the jungle with insanity potion for ganks :O

[Dizturb3dWun]

no. fucking. way.

[Haarudesu]

Leblanc jungle plz?

[aznplayer213]

gonna try this now but how essential is armor yellows?

[Fangrim]

@aznplayer213 maybe you should try it without armor yellows if you need to know.

[PivotOpera]

YEAH FNALLY

[700007123]

@700007123 well fuck

[iwildestroy9]

oh god... he was already annoying in lanes and teamfights...