p.s. if you dont hear from me for a while please address all mail to senory deprivation chamber, cell number 666, guantanamo bay, cuba. see yall there
You can bet your on F.E.M.A.'s database now buddy, but i agree with your chat....america has been screwed along with the rest of the planet, by the rockerfellers, rothschilds, and bushes. stand up for your right people of america, your founding fathers warned you with their gracious words of wisdom. you dont owe the rockerfellers squat!
If nothing else, you will understand how we the people have been fooled. there isn't a tax code that states that we have to pay taxes based on our income from labor.
"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and comermerce... and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."
Do you trust your government? Look at our present president. Would you want Him to be controlling the dollar press?
Let's accept that the Federal Reserve is a private entity, then, instead of instilling fears, extoll the benefits of a private organization which is that it MAY check the power of the government. Yes, the video can make people aware, but use that awareness to get good, honest people who have degrees in economics and finance to lead the Federal Reserve.
Next watch the "Money Masters" documentary, Part 1 & 2
"There is but one special interest that we should be working for, and that would solve just about all of our problems, and that is our Liberty." --Ron Paul, M.D.
Obama, Hillary, and almost all candidates for 2008 aside from Ron Paul have received cash from the federal reserve banks....look into it. vote Ron Paul 2008
Most sheeple think Obama is a terrorist threat to our country. It won't be easy but this is something we need to do, or we can kiss our freedoms goodbye.
xxxsleepyzzz, If the responsibility of currency issuance was returned to the government the only difference would be that interest payments would be used to build the nations wealth and infrastructure instead of lining the coffers of private banks.
I had the movie play on our local public access station. It didn't cost me anything other than what I pay in taxes on our cable bill and it received lots of news coverage Get the Movie played on public tv and advertise
i dont know if it's a temporary tax in the u.s.a. in canada it was supposed to be a temporary tax that was to help pay for the war (world war 1 i think). but of course, we still have it.
dont u guys realize this is propaganda. he is using unrelated topics to get u fired up so you will do his bidding, the federal reserve has nothing to do with most of the things hes talking about. and if we got rid of it, do u think we would take a step backwards? no, we would be a step closer to globalization.
wow u seem real intelligent sutadi. i want u to think what would happen if u got rid of the FR. think hard. it would accually have a reverse affect from what u guys are wanting. if u want to get rid of income tax, support candidate mike gravel. there are much more inportant things going on than the FR.
google seventh fire and read all the documentation. Senator McFadden warned agianst the Fed. saying what would happen if enacted, he was assasinated for his audacity of exposing them. We are now living what he said would happen. GO READ it.
Problem is, how are you going to get the people away from the "Big Game" and "American Idol"? That's all they care about. Just like the games in the Colliseum..keep the masses hypnotized. Spreading the word won't do a thing if nobody is listening...unfortunately.
We'll be helping to distribute it. Not that it will do any good in our lifetime since most Americans are just sheep. However, we may pave the way for a future generation who won't take in whatever is spoon fed to them. Remember folks, America is a C average. And that means that 50% are dumber than a C. If you can keep 50% of the population dumb and at least 25% of the rest scared, you have all the power.
While I think it's important to get the word out, it is just as important to support the producers film by buying the video or going to the theater. It cost the producer in time and money to get this one out and he may not be able to do future projects if the money isn't there.
I have started watching this movie. I'm planning on watching it in 15 minutes segments. I feel so depressed watching it. But I will finish it. Also, Deadlogic, I'm glad you grew your beard back. You look good with a beard. ;-)
Its interesting to note that the EU as the film stated is heavily promoting the idea of a single currency backed by an unaccountable central bank, ID card scheme and coecing the people of the various national states into adopting a single EU constitution even if in all the referenda the idea is is almost univerasally rejected
hmmm....The legal stipulations are very important...and the people of the US are right to focus on what they can do about their own government....but this strategy is being promoted throughout the western world.
The Supreme Court defines "income tax", as an excise tax "imposed with respect to the doing of business in corporate form". If you are not engaged in any corporate activities then you are not liable for an "excise income tax." This Supreme Court decision also states that Congress cannot tax an individual's income directly. All direct taxes must be imposed on the states with apportionment. U.S. Constitution Art. 1 Sect 2. Cl. 3 and Sect 9 Cl. 4.
The Supreme Court never said either of those bits of nonsense. Feel free to search through the tax denier literature for a citation. That will keep you busy and out of trouble for weeks if not years.
Yeah, I searched through the literature. My whole previous comment was copied and pasted from an actual legal document. Eventually you'll need to consider - and I know that it seems outlandish - that agovernment may possibly attempt to screw you without your knowledge.
A legal document you are unable or unwilling to identify. My guess is that is was the losing brief in a Tax Court case. Tax deniers fill their petitions, notions and memoranda will all sorts of nonsense, usually with a citation to a case that said something else entirely.
Here's the bottom line - Income tax is not apportioned, making it unconstitutional. This is written in the highest law in the land - U.S. Constitution Art. 1 Sect 2. Cl. 3 and Sect 9 Cl. 4. You can thumb later legislation at us all you want, but if it defies the United States constitution, it is void. Period.
But you know what? pirromount is probably right. No logical argument will change your mind. Be sure to vote in the next "ellection", and give Santa and the Easter Bunny my regards.
It was pirromont, not I, who decided to abandon logical argument. But logical argument will not work if you start with false premises. Your comment above indicates two false assumptions on your part. First, you assume, incorrectly, that the income tax is a direct tax, despite the holding in Brusaber (240 US 1) that it is indirect. Second, you ignore the 16th Amendment, which states that income taxes are exempt from the apportionment requirement.
This format is not really conducive to a serious discussion. If you believe you have an argument that works, and you can track down some documentation to support your more absurd statements, try bringing it to the forum on Quatloos.
According to title 26: "Gross income means all income from whatever source derived etc. etc."
Here's the problem with that definition: You CAN'T define a word using the same word in the definition. That's like saying define a large desk, and you reply "a large desk is a desk that is very big." What is a desk? In this case, what is income? The supreme court defines income as a 'corporate profit.'
The phrase "gross income" does not appear in the definition of the phrase gross income in Section 61, so your objection is inapropos.
The SC defines income as "the gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined, provided it be understood to include profit gained through a sale or conversion of capital assets, ..." Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 207. Nothing in that definition limits it to corporate profit.
Not "Gross income" but "income" Remember "big desk" and "desk"?
This is a quote:
Sec. 61. Gross income defined.
(a) General definition. Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items
Right. Whta is being defined is gross income, not income, just as what is being defined in your example is big desk, not desk. Your point seems to be that the word "income" is not defined in the IRC. I don't know that anyone has disputed that, so it seems pointless to use a bad argument to prove something everyone agrees on.
But not everyone agrees. The logical argument is that a laborer doesn't make a profit (or income as defined by the SC) but exchanges labor for money. If I wash your car in exchange for you painting my bedroom, that's an even exchange. No profit. If I wash your car and you give me cash for it. Again, even exchange, no profit. Anyway, this argument is as pointless as "Does Jesus Exist?" If one's mind is made up, no logical argument can change it.
Everyone does agree that the word "income" is not defined in the IRC. All the logic in the world won't do you any good if you don't know what you're discussing. Anyway, given your stated decision that logical argument won't change your mind, further discussion would be pointless.
i salute your courage in the face of global corporate fascism.
jimzsta 4 years ago
p.s. if you dont hear from me for a while please address all mail to senory deprivation chamber, cell number 666, guantanamo bay, cuba. see yall there
jimzsta 4 years ago
You can bet your on F.E.M.A.'s database now buddy, but i agree with your chat....america has been screwed along with the rest of the planet, by the rockerfellers, rothschilds, and bushes. stand up for your right people of america, your founding fathers warned you with their gracious words of wisdom. you dont owe the rockerfellers squat!
jimzsta 4 years ago
I can't say publicly what I will do one day to the Federal Reserve and the IRS! I will not die a slave!
jungiantheology 4 years ago
If nothing else, you will understand how we the people have been fooled. there isn't a tax code that states that we have to pay taxes based on our income from labor.
look it up. You will not find it anywhere.
2NDLTUSMC 4 years ago
The banksters kill people who expose the fraudulent banking system - Lincoln, Kennedy, McKinley, Garfield, etc.
mydozer 4 years ago
"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and comermerce... and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."
- James Garfield,
assassinated President of the United States
mydozer 4 years ago
Again, we are the people and if we never unite to fight for our rights then James Garfield would be correct on his statement.
AmericanRican 4 years ago
Do you trust your government? Look at our present president. Would you want Him to be controlling the dollar press?
Let's accept that the Federal Reserve is a private entity, then, instead of instilling fears, extoll the benefits of a private organization which is that it MAY check the power of the government. Yes, the video can make people aware, but use that awareness to get good, honest people who have degrees in economics and finance to lead the Federal Reserve.
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AnAppealToHeavenWash 4 years ago
You can find the law that requires you to pay federal income tax quite simply by googling "title 26 tax law"
The IRS also has a really full response on the it's website.
camipco 4 years ago
are you really that thick {fool}
8272181199 4 years ago
so what have all the court cases been about why are people walking why didnt the judge just google it lmao
8272181199 4 years ago
AARON RUSSO IS A DEAD MAN. We the owners of the Federal Reserve will kill him.
WhiteActivist 4 years ago
Shut up you CIA maggot!!!
keepitrealTV 4 years ago
come and get me pussy
pino321 4 years ago
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shipple 4 years ago
Amen, this man right here hits it on the button. You should see this movie at all costs.
schaaa01 4 years ago
Obama, Hillary, and almost all candidates for 2008 aside from Ron Paul have received cash from the federal reserve banks....look into it. vote Ron Paul 2008
6969wrath 4 years ago
Amen.
solidxstates 4 years ago
Most sheeple think Obama is a terrorist threat to our country. It won't be easy but this is something we need to do, or we can kiss our freedoms goodbye.
Retrosurrection 4 years ago
xxxsleepyzzz, If the responsibility of currency issuance was returned to the government the only difference would be that interest payments would be used to build the nations wealth and infrastructure instead of lining the coffers of private banks.
dom597167 5 years ago
Just go to google video type in "freedom to fascism" and badabing your in. xxxsleepyzzz go fuck your self.
23607 5 years ago
READ THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND.
1000 or so pages that explain everything in this film and then some much more succinctly.
111olbap 5 years ago
I had the movie play on our local public access station. It didn't cost me anything other than what I pay in taxes on our cable bill and it received lots of news coverage Get the Movie played on public tv and advertise
randygray 5 years ago
Wasn't it supposed to be a "temporary tax"?
Cissy2cute 5 years ago
i dont know if it's a temporary tax in the u.s.a. in canada it was supposed to be a temporary tax that was to help pay for the war (world war 1 i think). but of course, we still have it.
Superman54 4 years ago
did anyone else notice the califoria shoulder patches on the "louisiana" police?
xxxsleepyzzz 5 years ago
dont u guys realize this is propaganda. he is using unrelated topics to get u fired up so you will do his bidding, the federal reserve has nothing to do with most of the things hes talking about. and if we got rid of it, do u think we would take a step backwards? no, we would be a step closer to globalization.
xxxsleepyzzz 5 years ago
go back to hibernating you sleepy dork!
sutadi1970 5 years ago
wow u seem real intelligent sutadi. i want u to think what would happen if u got rid of the FR. think hard. it would accually have a reverse affect from what u guys are wanting. if u want to get rid of income tax, support candidate mike gravel. there are much more inportant things going on than the FR.
xxxsleepyzzz 5 years ago
google seventh fire and read all the documentation. Senator McFadden warned agianst the Fed. saying what would happen if enacted, he was assasinated for his audacity of exposing them. We are now living what he said would happen. GO READ it.
troyalldis 4 years ago
spread the word Shut down the federal reserve system!
randygray78 5 years ago
Problem is, how are you going to get the people away from the "Big Game" and "American Idol"? That's all they care about. Just like the games in the Colliseum..keep the masses hypnotized. Spreading the word won't do a thing if nobody is listening...unfortunately.
Cissy2cute 5 years ago
We'll be helping to distribute it. Not that it will do any good in our lifetime since most Americans are just sheep. However, we may pave the way for a future generation who won't take in whatever is spoon fed to them. Remember folks, America is a C average. And that means that 50% are dumber than a C. If you can keep 50% of the population dumb and at least 25% of the rest scared, you have all the power.
pirromount 5 years ago
While I think it's important to get the word out, it is just as important to support the producers film by buying the video or going to the theater. It cost the producer in time and money to get this one out and he may not be able to do future projects if the money isn't there.
pandatoe 5 years ago
We can only hope.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
I have started watching this movie. I'm planning on watching it in 15 minutes segments. I feel so depressed watching it. But I will finish it. Also, Deadlogic, I'm glad you grew your beard back. You look good with a beard. ;-)
gorikuri 5 years ago
Its interesting to note that the EU as the film stated is heavily promoting the idea of a single currency backed by an unaccountable central bank, ID card scheme and coecing the people of the various national states into adopting a single EU constitution even if in all the referenda the idea is is almost univerasally rejected
Telcontar1962 5 years ago
hmmm....The legal stipulations are very important...and the people of the US are right to focus on what they can do about their own government....but this strategy is being promoted throughout the western world.
Telcontar1962 5 years ago
The Supreme Court defines "income tax", as an excise tax "imposed with respect to the doing of business in corporate form". If you are not engaged in any corporate activities then you are not liable for an "excise income tax." This Supreme Court decision also states that Congress cannot tax an individual's income directly. All direct taxes must be imposed on the states with apportionment. U.S. Constitution Art. 1 Sect 2. Cl. 3 and Sect 9 Cl. 4.
fasternu 5 years ago
The Supreme Court never said either of those bits of nonsense. Feel free to search through the tax denier literature for a citation. That will keep you busy and out of trouble for weeks if not years.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
Yeah, I searched through the literature. My whole previous comment was copied and pasted from an actual legal document. Eventually you'll need to consider - and I know that it seems outlandish - that agovernment may possibly attempt to screw you without your knowledge.
fasternu 5 years ago
A legal document you are unable or unwilling to identify. My guess is that is was the losing brief in a Tax Court case. Tax deniers fill their petitions, notions and memoranda will all sorts of nonsense, usually with a citation to a case that said something else entirely.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
Here's the bottom line - Income tax is not apportioned, making it unconstitutional. This is written in the highest law in the land - U.S. Constitution Art. 1 Sect 2. Cl. 3 and Sect 9 Cl. 4. You can thumb later legislation at us all you want, but if it defies the United States constitution, it is void. Period.
But you know what? pirromount is probably right. No logical argument will change your mind. Be sure to vote in the next "ellection", and give Santa and the Easter Bunny my regards.
fasternu 5 years ago
It was pirromont, not I, who decided to abandon logical argument. But logical argument will not work if you start with false premises. Your comment above indicates two false assumptions on your part. First, you assume, incorrectly, that the income tax is a direct tax, despite the holding in Brusaber (240 US 1) that it is indirect. Second, you ignore the 16th Amendment, which states that income taxes are exempt from the apportionment requirement.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
This format is not really conducive to a serious discussion. If you believe you have an argument that works, and you can track down some documentation to support your more absurd statements, try bringing it to the forum on Quatloos.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
The income tax is imposed by 26 USC §1. If Russo couldn't find it, he wasn't looking very hard.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
Title 26 uses the term "taxable income". Where can I find that definition?
hey78huy 5 years ago
In Title 26. Specifically in Section 63. Section 63 uses the term "gross income", the definition of which can be found in Section 61.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
According to title 26: "Gross income means all income from whatever source derived etc. etc."
Here's the problem with that definition: You CAN'T define a word using the same word in the definition. That's like saying define a large desk, and you reply "a large desk is a desk that is very big." What is a desk? In this case, what is income? The supreme court defines income as a 'corporate profit.'
pirromount 5 years ago
The phrase "gross income" does not appear in the definition of the phrase gross income in Section 61, so your objection is inapropos.
The SC defines income as "the gain derived from capital, from labor, or from both combined, provided it be understood to include profit gained through a sale or conversion of capital assets, ..." Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 207. Nothing in that definition limits it to corporate profit.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
Not "Gross income" but "income" Remember "big desk" and "desk"?
This is a quote:
Sec. 61. Gross income defined.
(a) General definition. Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items
pirromount 5 years ago
Right. Whta is being defined is gross income, not income, just as what is being defined in your example is big desk, not desk. Your point seems to be that the word "income" is not defined in the IRC. I don't know that anyone has disputed that, so it seems pointless to use a bad argument to prove something everyone agrees on.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
But not everyone agrees. The logical argument is that a laborer doesn't make a profit (or income as defined by the SC) but exchanges labor for money. If I wash your car in exchange for you painting my bedroom, that's an even exchange. No profit. If I wash your car and you give me cash for it. Again, even exchange, no profit. Anyway, this argument is as pointless as "Does Jesus Exist?" If one's mind is made up, no logical argument can change it.
pirromount 5 years ago
Everyone does agree that the word "income" is not defined in the IRC. All the logic in the world won't do you any good if you don't know what you're discussing. Anyway, given your stated decision that logical argument won't change your mind, further discussion would be pointless.
DrGerbils 5 years ago
Thanks for the review. I've been following it's progress but haven't yet had a chance to see it.
starpilot1 5 years ago
Thanks for the review. I've been following it's progress but haven't yet had a chance to see it.
starpilot1 5 years ago