@aorr slowly slowly buddy - a) my comment is valid - and b) yes i do know what a bailout cylinder is.
I do dive a homebuild eCCR as well as mCCR and hCCR. On a dive as descriped in this videoa I would use the follwoing bailouts - a) off-board dil 11 ltr 10/60 tmx - thsi would provide dil as well as deep bailout, b) travle bailtout - probable a 15/50 tmx 11ltr c) shallow bailout Nx 55 7 ltr.
A rebreather incl. 3 tnks for bailout is majorly less stuff than 10 or so odd tanks for an OC rig.
come cosa c entra l idrodinamica di una gonfigurazione ben ordinata?? se ti porti appresso un cestello di bombole solo da un lato e appese cosi a casaccio e chiaro che i flussi d acqua faranno il loro lavoro riperquotendosi dove c e resistenza crea turbolenze a un attrito diverso cosi da far muovere il sub in modo non lineare ma sotto sforzo e con una grave resistenza laterale,mi piacerebbe vedere come risolverebbe un emerg magari a 120 mt scegliere la bail out in mezzo ad altre 5 tutte uguali
ma non c e un senso di progressione di utilizzo nel posionarle?? o l importante e aggrapparsi sto grappolone in qualche modo?? e la famosa idrodinamicita tanto ricercata nei corsiprecedento dove va afinire?? non vi capisco mi spiace
Nice. Looks like fun. I haven't tried to manage as many bottles as you did but it would seem like the hip mounted bottles should be pushed further back. Hope you learned a lot and keep it up.
@TheShaggedelic Well, actually I have been diving since 2000 (PADI rescue diver) was certified as TDI Andvanced nitrox&deco procedures tech diver since 2004. Certified as TDI advanced tmx diver in 2005, GUE fundamentals in 2007, GUE tech 1 diver since 2009. All together I think I have over 1500 dives.
@banstec Dearest "Banstec"! There is some ïnformation" related to the video posted to those who fail to perceive this video correctly. (i.e. "for idiots") This video IS NOT a demonstration of any "kind of skills" you (Banstec or WTF is your name) are used to watch on youtube. This is my personal video, that doesn't claim it has to do anyrthing wirth "skills" or "drills" for those who has no money to apply for the course the course in order to learn "these skills" FREE OF CHARGE.
@banstec #2 yOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FO THESE "FREE OF CHARGE DRILLS", AREN'T YOU? If you are, please do NOT look for any "skills" in my videos. Simply because I do not believe that you can learn anything useful in regards of dive skills, etc that might improve your diving capacity by watching these sort of videos on youtube.
@banstec #3 I apologize in advance if I got it wrong and I am ready to admit I could be mistaken in my judgements but I'm really sick and tired of explaining that I did NOT upload this video for an "educational" purpose. If , by any chance, you want to learn how to dive "DIR" style, - just take a class otherwise everything you get from my videos will be just a "great demonstration of "nothing".
To just pick on every other organization is probably the worst way to promote your GUE shit. I though you, Elena, learned it when you uploaded "scuba divers & a coral reef". But i guess i had that wrong...
FuktigTrasa: Dear Fuktig! A person blaming me on "picking up on other organizations" to "promote my GUE shit" should be at least an IGNORANT MORON. I am the friend of UTD since 2008 and I am producing their promotional video too. Ahh, I bet you didn't ""know that", right?! So learn before you jump out with your ridiculous accusations that have nothing to do with me.
FuktigTrasa:# 3 After my futile attempt to "manage the multiple stageas"(WATCH THE VIDEO!) I agreed I was faraway from being "qualified"to dive this sort of depth. I hope youwon't ask me a stupid question "why". If that was the GUE guys I was diving with on board of Tala in 2008, then I would title this video like "Diving GUE style". I hope it's clear.
These guys are performing drills guys so the number of bottles is dictated more by the requirements of the drill (ie. task loading and bottle management, in this case) than the dive itself. Give 'em a break, ffs!
Very easy you take a trimix and a nitrox 50 and a nitrox 80 or 100% O2. You use your 50% as a travel gas and as a deco gas on your stops above 70 ft and your 80 or 100 for the shalow deco. In this way you don't need to take so may tanks.
steinkwadijk : Well, it all depends not at the "depth" but the time you would like to spend at the the certain death. Proper exploration requires time (extra gases that are being shared between a team) for a solo dive down to 150m for 1 min, you definitely don'y need that "many"
What if you're doing a 350' tech dive that requires 3 hours of deco? you'd only use a 70' and a 20' bottle?!?!?! The dives these guys are doing in the Red Sea is a little bit bigger than a 200' tech dive requiring only 2 deco gasses.
My comments were not directed at you, but directed to "steinkwadijk". We dive with 3-4 bottles on our dives also. Proper gas planning and decompression techniques require it depending on depth/time on a given dive. DIR training is the best I've ever had!
I did receive a lot of training including my Tech1 through GUE. However, I moved on as AG did and have received most everything through him. I'm planning on taking the my instructor IDC through UTD in this next year.
i just got out the water, diving with 2 stages. just a fun / train dive. max depth 16.9 m (55feet)
diving with one stage, i don't really feel it anymore. 2 stages i notice the stages are there, but don't bother me. but when i try to put a 3th stage on, it gives me a little handicap in movement
I did a dive with a buddy for fun took 4 stages. and it sort of worked out. not really perfect ;) but i think if you train more it is possible to do it perfect :)
Please Do It Right next time. I don't believe UTD would teach such chaotic and hectic stage management. Take it step by step, get comfortable with one stage and then add another one and so on.
You guys would like to take it too fast too far. I have enjoyed the camera work and the music. All the other stuff is just a ...
UWPLANET : That was a JOKE. I am sorry I was not clear about it and that somehow I made you take this video clip "seriously". Of course it has nothing to do with UTD teaching.
This just shows how hard it really is, but we all have to start somewhere. Post an updated video to show your improvements in the future. That would be great to compare.
waterproofboots: No,no, I was just willing to dive 120 m deep (the "Maiden" wreck) and that was a very good lesson for me, I could see what skills do I lack to dive that deep you have to carry all the gases with you) so that was good for me to realize that's probaly too early to think about a deep one! Lol!
looks very hard to do.....
eskrima1 1 month ago
thats why man invented rebreathers
divelermentov 2 months ago
@divelermentov Errrrr, your comment is quite invalid. Ever heard of bail-out cylinders?
aorr 1 month ago
@aorr slowly slowly buddy - a) my comment is valid - and b) yes i do know what a bailout cylinder is.
I do dive a homebuild eCCR as well as mCCR and hCCR. On a dive as descriped in this videoa I would use the follwoing bailouts - a) off-board dil 11 ltr 10/60 tmx - thsi would provide dil as well as deep bailout, b) travle bailtout - probable a 15/50 tmx 11ltr c) shallow bailout Nx 55 7 ltr.
A rebreather incl. 3 tnks for bailout is majorly less stuff than 10 or so odd tanks for an OC rig.
divelermentov 1 month ago
@aorr so think before you assume that others dont understand ahwt they are talking about .
we do that sort of diving (80+ meters ) over here in a regular basis, in fact i cant remember the last dive i did to less than 40meters.
But hey only my .02
however i like the fact that my trimix bill per dive is around 10$ :-)
not 600$ is it would be OC :-)
divelermentov 1 month ago
come cosa c entra l idrodinamica di una gonfigurazione ben ordinata?? se ti porti appresso un cestello di bombole solo da un lato e appese cosi a casaccio e chiaro che i flussi d acqua faranno il loro lavoro riperquotendosi dove c e resistenza crea turbolenze a un attrito diverso cosi da far muovere il sub in modo non lineare ma sotto sforzo e con una grave resistenza laterale,mi piacerebbe vedere come risolverebbe un emerg magari a 120 mt scegliere la bail out in mezzo ad altre 5 tutte uguali
TheFabiomansella 4 months ago
lol, the guy in training definitely needs much more training :-)))
Den9082 9 months ago
Esiste una procedura ben definita per il passaggio delle bottiglie.
Mi sembra evidente , e per stessa ammissione della Elena, che qui, al contrario, ci sono tanti problemi da risolvere.
Cosa ci azzecca la famosa idrodinamicità non lo capisco sinceramente.
Il video in questione può essere inteso, solo ed esclusivamente, del come NON si procede su utilizzo e posizionamento delle stage.
Non è un video didattico ( di alcuna didattica ) e tanto meno un video dimostrativo di qualcosa di ben fatto.
ZeroCento100 9 months ago
ma non c e un senso di progressione di utilizzo nel posionarle?? o l importante e aggrapparsi sto grappolone in qualche modo?? e la famosa idrodinamicita tanto ricercata nei corsiprecedento dove va afinire?? non vi capisco mi spiace
TheFabiomansella 9 months ago
sometimes i feel "1" bottle too heavy and too bulky, as diving under 30 meter sotimes is just darker, colder and more dangerous. my respect ^^
jenacbxx 9 months ago
could have put some on the right ! :?
trustthistime 1 year ago
Nice. Looks like fun. I haven't tried to manage as many bottles as you did but it would seem like the hip mounted bottles should be pushed further back. Hope you learned a lot and keep it up.
GoDeepification 1 year ago
lol that was a mess.
hope you've improved :D
harsjkasnbkf 1 year ago
haha, S drill at the end was sweet =D
ScubaToronto 1 year ago
Nice video, thanks for sharing!
snorman1911 1 year ago
who are utd ???
bibomambo 1 year ago
how many hours of diving did u get before going for tec?
TheShaggedelic 1 year ago
@TheShaggedelic Well, actually I have been diving since 2000 (PADI rescue diver) was certified as TDI Andvanced nitrox&deco procedures tech diver since 2004. Certified as TDI advanced tmx diver in 2005, GUE fundamentals in 2007, GUE tech 1 diver since 2009. All together I think I have over 1500 dives.
overseasmedia 1 year ago 4
A bit more training and you will manage it without a problem... It is always dificult at the beginning, but it gets easyer with every dive!
TheRoknemec 1 year ago
Looks like a hell of a lot to manage! Fantastic cinematography as well!
aorr 1 year ago
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banstec 1 year ago
@banstec Dearest "Banstec"! There is some ïnformation" related to the video posted to those who fail to perceive this video correctly. (i.e. "for idiots") This video IS NOT a demonstration of any "kind of skills" you (Banstec or WTF is your name) are used to watch on youtube. This is my personal video, that doesn't claim it has to do anyrthing wirth "skills" or "drills" for those who has no money to apply for the course the course in order to learn "these skills" FREE OF CHARGE.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@banstec #2 yOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FO THESE "FREE OF CHARGE DRILLS", AREN'T YOU? If you are, please do NOT look for any "skills" in my videos. Simply because I do not believe that you can learn anything useful in regards of dive skills, etc that might improve your diving capacity by watching these sort of videos on youtube.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@banstec #3 I apologize in advance if I got it wrong and I am ready to admit I could be mistaken in my judgements but I'm really sick and tired of explaining that I did NOT upload this video for an "educational" purpose. If , by any chance, you want to learn how to dive "DIR" style, - just take a class otherwise everything you get from my videos will be just a "great demonstration of "nothing".
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@overseasmedia
Why take a class from GUE? There is little more than you will find in the videos.
Drew7886 1 year ago
@Drew7886: touché :)))
overseasmedia 1 year ago
To just pick on every other organization is probably the worst way to promote your GUE shit. I though you, Elena, learned it when you uploaded "scuba divers & a coral reef". But i guess i had that wrong...
FuktigTrasa 2 years ago
FuktigTrasa: Dear Fuktig! A person blaming me on "picking up on other organizations" to "promote my GUE shit" should be at least an IGNORANT MORON. I am the friend of UTD since 2008 and I am producing their promotional video too. Ahh, I bet you didn't ""know that", right?! So learn before you jump out with your ridiculous accusations that have nothing to do with me.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
FuktigTrasa:# 3 After my futile attempt to "manage the multiple stageas"(WATCH THE VIDEO!) I agreed I was faraway from being "qualified"to dive this sort of depth. I hope youwon't ask me a stupid question "why". If that was the GUE guys I was diving with on board of Tala in 2008, then I would title this video like "Diving GUE style". I hope it's clear.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
Overseas media, how do you know this is from a UTD course?
idevers 2 years ago
idevers, That's not UTD!
quelindaes 2 years ago
That is what I would think also, but the poster of this video seems to imply so...
idevers 2 years ago
idevers: That' was a joke, my dear. That's me in the video diving with Faisal (Tala) G!
overseasmedia 2 years ago
These guys are performing drills guys so the number of bottles is dictated more by the requirements of the drill (ie. task loading and bottle management, in this case) than the dive itself. Give 'em a break, ffs!
mrbardo 2 years ago
A stage and two deco bottles seem to be a practical limit for most dives (divers) 3 hours of deco in open water seems excessive.
scubascott503 2 years ago
What is the "instructor" doing at 0:32 and at 1:03? Using his hands as fins? What about backward kick?
I am a GUE Fundamentals (tech pass) and master already the back kick. Why does not an instructor?
mbarbosagoncalves 2 years ago
What do you mean by different depths
Very easy you take a trimix and a nitrox 50 and a nitrox 80 or 100% O2. You use your 50% as a travel gas and as a deco gas on your stops above 70 ft and your 80 or 100 for the shalow deco. In this way you don't need to take so may tanks.
steinkwadijk 2 years ago
steinkwadijk : Well, it all depends not at the "depth" but the time you would like to spend at the the certain death. Proper exploration requires time (extra gases that are being shared between a team) for a solo dive down to 150m for 1 min, you definitely don'y need that "many"
overseasmedia 2 years ago
What if you're doing a 350' tech dive that requires 3 hours of deco? you'd only use a 70' and a 20' bottle?!?!?! The dives these guys are doing in the Red Sea is a little bit bigger than a 200' tech dive requiring only 2 deco gasses.
boomx6 2 years ago
oomx6: Sure! Whats' your point?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
My comments were not directed at you, but directed to "steinkwadijk". We dive with 3-4 bottles on our dives also. Proper gas planning and decompression techniques require it depending on depth/time on a given dive. DIR training is the best I've ever had!
boomx6 2 years ago
boomx6 : when you say "DIR" do you mean GUE?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
I did receive a lot of training including my Tech1 through GUE. However, I moved on as AG did and have received most everything through him. I'm planning on taking the my instructor IDC through UTD in this next year.
boomx6 2 years ago
boomx6: That's very good, I believe you will get a very good training with AG and UTD.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
steinkwadijk : so why do you think these guys take "too many tanks", are they crazy? Stupid? Uneducated?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Why would you want to dive so many stage tanks. Air Hawk?
steinkwadijk 2 years ago
For use at different stages (depths) of the dive.
unclepeter99 2 years ago
Good video and I like the OOA just after the congratulations ;-)
What's the music? - nice a chilled.
simonnattrass 2 years ago
simonnattrass: That's "Cafe del Mar", I don't remember the name of the track, I will try to find it out...
overseasmedia 2 years ago
LOL how can you do it perfect with so many stages? :D i can handle 2, never had more than 2 gonna try that just for fun.
flyhard 2 years ago
flyhard: Neither had I! (lol) 2 deco stages were the max. stages I have ever had with me...
overseasmedia 2 years ago
i just got out the water, diving with 2 stages. just a fun / train dive. max depth 16.9 m (55feet)
diving with one stage, i don't really feel it anymore. 2 stages i notice the stages are there, but don't bother me. but when i try to put a 3th stage on, it gives me a little handicap in movement
flyhard 2 years ago
flyhard: Believe me you CAN!!! (whtever you want if you anna do i "perfect") I obviously failed...
overseasmedia 2 years ago
I did a dive with a buddy for fun took 4 stages. and it sort of worked out. not really perfect ;) but i think if you train more it is possible to do it perfect :)
flyhard 2 years ago
whats happing here ? sorry im not a tec diver
piescrank 2 years ago
LOL, I enjoyed this video. That was a sh*t load of tanks all at once. Great music and camera view as well.
srgsbdbal 2 years ago
srgsbdbal: Yes, that was "pretty extreme" (lol) I am glad you liked the video!
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Please Do It Right next time. I don't believe UTD would teach such chaotic and hectic stage management. Take it step by step, get comfortable with one stage and then add another one and so on.
You guys would like to take it too fast too far. I have enjoyed the camera work and the music. All the other stuff is just a ...
UWPLANET 3 years ago
UWPLANET : That was a JOKE. I am sorry I was not clear about it and that somehow I made you take this video clip "seriously". Of course it has nothing to do with UTD teaching.
overseasmedia 2 years ago
It's always hard to share training videos, looks like you did just great! I gotta say, that's some great camera work too. Love the 360 view going on.
d5kenn 3 years ago
d5kenn : Thanks a lotfor the comment!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
What level is this? I'm taking my GUE tech1 next month :) is this part of the course?
...funny that the other guy ran out of air at the end. I would've been like, "What youmean now??? here, just pick one!"
noantsproductions 3 years ago
noantsproductions: No,no... That's just a joke!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
This just shows how hard it really is, but we all have to start somewhere. Post an updated video to show your improvements in the future. That would be great to compare.
DiveTW 3 years ago
This really is an embarrassment, for both divers in the video.
mrDUN 3 years ago
Since one of the divers in the video is me... I completely agree with you! (LOl!)
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Wow! You give "grace under pressure" a whole new meaning.
:D
Another awesome video!
GOneScUBa 3 years ago
GOneScUBa: Thanks a lot darling! I don't think I did it with a lot of grace though...! (lol)
overseasmedia 3 years ago
You are to hard on yourself, you dive you learn
Waterproofboots 3 years ago
waterproofboots: No,no, I was just willing to dive 120 m deep (the "Maiden" wreck) and that was a very good lesson for me, I could see what skills do I lack to dive that deep you have to carry all the gases with you) so that was good for me to realize that's probaly too early to think about a deep one! Lol!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Your doing good. Not that bad at all.
scubazmei 3 years ago
sado-mazo kind of diving! But I love that!
vidmaster75 3 years ago
Very impressive wow so many tanks!!!!!
quelindaes 3 years ago
Oh yes, the grace and freedom of the weightless underwater environment :)))
Just joking ;)
liberalc 3 years ago
liberalc, Oh YEAH....! Freedom! looks like fun but feels like shit, LOL!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Looks like fun :)))
nuno32181 3 years ago
Nuno, a re you kidding me??
overseasmedia 3 years ago