Richard Dawkins - Faith in the Scientific Method

[GodOfUnbelief]

The scientific method is my religion I apply it not only on my studies but on my everyday life

[ASKaPHYSICIST]

Damn it God! You why didn't you take the shot????

[WolfySnackrib666]

Thumbs up if this clip made you smile

[meloveoasis]

I've read a couple of Dawkin's more recent books where he states talks like these in his youth are a huge source of quote-mining for creationists. I can see why.

[meganh8093]

He was so handsome!

[gonavy505]

@gvsfgdf Great another little pussy faggot that talks shit on Youtube but knows he would get FUCKED UP talking shit in person!

[sSereth]

@gonavy505 The teapot said to the kettle. Someone has anger issues. Have you considered that normal, rational adults can disagree with each other without calling each other names and beating each other up?

Wait, I'm sorry-- apparently rational, well-adjusted adults aren't "manly" enough, whatever that means.

[Breakneckhydra1]

@sSereth When did I talk about a homosexual?...are your referring to pillow bitter? That just means someone who is getting fucked up the ass, for all i know the person I'm talking to could be female, it just means they take it up the ass and cry like a bitch and bite a pillow in pain / pleasure....And don't tell me to shut the fuck up I'm over here defending this video and your talking shit to me like I'm in the wrong...I was defending your ass!

[sSereth]

Uh... Maybe you forgot but you referred to him as a pillow-biting FAGGOT. If that doesn't denote homosexuality, I don't know what does.

Fine, you are right. I shouldn't tell you to shut the fuck up. But I don't need you to "defend" me by spouting insults like a five year old. It doesn't matter if he's in the wrong because you are still making yourself look bad, and giving him a leg up in the process by making his stupid insults seem like they're fair game. What's the point?

[gonavy505]

Dawkins is a douche bag and his followers are mindless douche bags.

[Breakneckhydra1]

@gonavy505 just like you?

[gonavy505]

@Breakneckhydra1 Oh shut the fuck up you little shit packing faggot!

[Breakneckhydra1]

@gonavy505 Aaawwwww did I hurt your little feelings? Gana go cry? Someone call a WAM-bulance for this pillow biting faggot!

[gonavy505]

@Breakneckhydra1 YOU DIDN'T HURT SHIT, YOU ARE JUST A CUM SUCKING LITTLE FAGGOT!

[Breakneckhydra1]

@gonavy505 AAwwww, cry cry cry little crybaby! wah wah wah is all i hear. WAH WAH WAH LITTLE CRY BABY.

[sSereth]

@gonavy505 Way to be mature, moron.

[gonavy505]

@sSereth Suck a dick faggot!

[sSereth]

@gonavy505 I'm a female, you moron. And there you go, treating homosexuality as if it's an insult. Clearly you're a real charmer.

How about you put a gun to your head and get yourself and your machismo bullshit off the planet. That, or get an education. I would prefer the education, to be honest.

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 dude. You go around calling everyone faggot and gay etc and all your fav vids are of Mariah Carey. You understand studies have been done that directly suggest homophobia is related to innate homosexual arousal or stimulus? In other words your so uncomfortable with your own homosexual feelings that you have to bash others via projection. Maybe get some counseling. Its okay to be gay, dude.

[gonavy505]

@GallusSapien Hey dumb fuck...if I was ashamed of the music I enjoy...I WOULDN'T PUT IN IN MY FAVORITES YOU FUCKING DUM FAGGOT COCK SUCKER!

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 haha you are so easily angered. I dont consider being called things like gay an insult. You should really think about getting treatment. They have free facilities to help you with both your anger issues accepting your latent homosexuality. Good luck.

[gonavy505]

@GallusSapien SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU NAMBLA CHAPTER PRESIDENT, LITTLE BABY RAPING PEDOPHILE!

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 lol. More projection. Okay I don't really know what to say about this one. I think its pretty serious. If you have the urge to rape babies and children you should get help right away. Touching children is wrong dude, and its important that you get help. There are people to help you who won't judge you. The most vital thing is getting help asap.

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 BTW I am very suprised you are an adult and you act like this.

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 Also....I fucked your dad. He's a bottom. Have a great day. :-)

[gonavy505]

@GallusSapien Great because my dad was a piece of shit. All I ask is you stop fucking little boys.

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 Ah. Daddy issues. I should have known. Dude. Seriously. Talk to some one. Its not normal to get so angry. There are free places to help you.

[gonavy505]

@GallusSapien Please stop butt raping little boys in your neighborhood.

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 you're projecting

[gonavy505]

@GallusSapien Please stop ass raping kids.

[GallusSapien]

@gonavy505 Please stop projecting your obsession with that kind of thing. It seems to be all you talk/think about.

[gonavy505]

@GallusSapien Whatever...all I am asking you to do is stop ass raping little boys...that's all...you don't have to be a dumb ass about it.

[sSereth]

@gonavy505 So mindless that we think about things for ourselves rather than eat up the lies our parents told us that cheaply made them feel better - oh, give it a rest.

[PlasteredDragon]

Wow he looks so young there!  Great vid.,

[physicswagner]

"I felt the wind of it" LOL!

[IndividualityMonarch]

Why do people steady associate the word faith only with religion. When a person says," you have faith in us winning the game tonight then". Then the person says NO! Faith is religious. Faith is about openness and trust, and laying down like a child, as to become new and open to whatever may come at you, or seems possible. You have to have faith to become religious,but after you've cling on to a religion its no longer faith because you closed up, became classified.Now its only a belief.

[sSereth]

Interesting take on it. i agree with your idea, if not really your definition of faith.

I see faith as an irrational and persistent belief, whereas 'faith in winning the game' is just hope. Beliefs themself can be good or bad, invalid or valid, depending on what they are based on.

But I agree with your message, for sure.

[omriee]

You missed his point. Faith in the scientific method means faith in evidence, accurate predections etc. Faith in religion means faith in desert scribblings of some scizophrenic nuts who where hearing voices.

[BUDA20]

Thumbs up for this!

[sSereth]

Super duper high five.

[geeflyboy]

The problem with Dawkins, doesn't follow his own BS. First says religion, Jesus, BIBLE, despite outstanding historical evidence & documents, is all BS, in his OPINION. He knows nothing about it, but OK, faith isn't scientific.

Than he takes his genius SCIENCE out and says, see the science proves there is no faith therefore no God. WTF?

A cluster "F" of circular logic insults my intelligence. First faith is not logical. Than I'll use logic to prove there's no faith, thus no God? Ludicrous

[sSereth]

Comment about the video, no one in their right mind should take to finding every opportunity to have a youtube argument. If you want to argue, be civil and don't throw names and claims around.

[mohfoz77]

EXCELLENT.

RICHARD DAWKINS is an inspiration for us.

[sSereth]

Guys, shut the fuck up. The point of this video is that 'faith' can be justified if it's on something empirically reliable, while religion has never and will never be that logical.

How this related to your semi-literate, argumentative ramblings?What's the point of arguing your religious interpretations on youtube of all places?

[gmcjetpilot]

"religion has never and will never be that logical'

Religion, spiritiality is metaphysical, transcends our understanding. DON'T YOU GET IT? Who are YOU or Dawkins to say what people should feel or think? Are you the thought Nazi?

You want practical, religious people live longer, heal faster by many empirical studies. What does believing in NOTHING give you? Atheist Charities? NONE! Don't say Bill Gates, he's not an atheist. People GET a LOT out of faith & GIVE a lot to others, aka GOOD!

[sSereth]

Religion and spirituality are not metaphysical. They claim, without proof, the existence of the metaphysical.

I am not telling you what to think or feel, and neither is Dawkins. All he does in this video is demonstrate an idea he has- what's the harm?

The fact remains that certain beliefs are more logical than others. Logic is distinguishing between incorrect and correct reasoning. Faith is, by definition, belief without reason.

[gmcjetpilot]

Three good videos for you, youtube videos, paste ID's into search:

>>>>Richard Dawkins - Beware the Believers

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>>>>Debating-Refuting-Beating - Darwin Dawkins Evolution Theory

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>>>>Expelled: Stein's Interview with Dawkins

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You will see the true Dawkins, a hack who thinks we came from aliens, really. He suffers from ABG syndrome, Anything But God

[gmcjetpilot]

PS

"They claim, without proof, the existence of the metaphysical"

You don't know the meaning of the word, which is funny. It is by FAITH. it is transendant and this PROOF thing is inaine. Do you think God will come down and speak to you in person?

"There is no evidence that religious people live longer."

Again pulling stuff out of your ass. Deny away, like a child rebelling with your hands over ears, eyes shut, yelling over and over, "I will not believe I will not believe". Ha ha.

[sSereth]

Also: There is no evidence that religious people live longer. And there are no empirical studies that show religious people healing faster. A recent study showed no discernable difference between those being prayed for and those in the control group. Some people being prayed for get a bit better and this can be attributed to the placebo effect.

[gmcjetpilot]

The Dick Dawkins RAP video: eaGgpGLxLQw

.... HA HA Dick Dawkins in a nut shell. I'm smarter and SCIENCE! I can prove my weak science is superior by mocking the Bible see, than I'll show how the Bible does not have SCIENCE!! Therefore my circular logic is complete and SCIENCE!!! How did first life form from inanimate matter happen Dick? SCIENCE!!!! What was before the Big bang. Where did the infinity hot and infinitely dense "cosmic egg" come from? SCIENCE!!!!!

[gmcjetpilot]

My fiancee is a M.D. and there have been many studies that show spirituality has great positive affect on peoples prognosis. You can call it what want, placebo. However the HUMAN mind is way more powerful than your "PROOF".

Google both of these, makes you think:

WCNC com Colleen Banton

Photo captures image of an 'angel' in Charlotte hospital

Not saying this shows God or the burnt toast on eBay with Jesus is more than burnt toast, but YOU HAVE TO BE THERE. God works in peoples life.

[sSereth]

This isn't a question of 'power' in whatever intangible sense you are using the word. Correct reasoning is based on logic and evidence. The human mind is a powerful tool, indeed, but evidence and reasoning are something that should be a part of one's thought process, not something that should be crushed in some epic battle by human minds.

Without any arguments besides the touting of your irrelevant husband's qualifications, your post is nonresponsive.

[geeflyboy]

If Dick Dawkins is your lover, apologizes. He's a fraud.He stands on weak credential, I'm a Scientist,therefore I'M RIGHT! SCIENCE! (yes science is great; doesn't replace God or spirituality.)

Further eroding my nil respect for Dawkins is his self proclaimed mission to "destroy religion"? Real Science there? He knows NOTHING about philosophy, history, theology, sociology,anthropology and loves money, selling Books & speakers fees. Regarding your post; are you high? God&Mans mind can coexist

[sSereth]

If anything, this video backs up what I say. Correct reasoning (something we should all try to do) is based on facts and evidence. While many wouldn't dare swing a cannonball near their head, Dawkins is using his knowledge about natural laws to justify his 'faith' that it will not swing back and crush his face.

I find it somewhat symbolic... You are enabled go places others wouldn't dare to if you are equipped with proper knowledge, instead of being unproductively fearful.

[geeflyboy]

I get it, Yawn, ho-hum, boring, non sequitur. Using Physics (he's not a physicist) to prove God, faith? Please. Where did the universe come from? (before the Big bang) How did 1st life form, no life inanimate matter than life? (to become everything) Probability is zero.

No doubt God gave us wonderful minds, reason, logic, understanding: facts, symbolics, math, language ,music, art (why we're not animals or from them).

Your post are like you making love to your own mind. They're BS, sorry.

[sSereth]

Furthermore, people who were aware that they were being prayed for also experienced the nocebo effect- they got worse, thinking if people needed to pray for them they were in really bad shape.

[gmcjetpilot]

10 to the 40,000 pwr probability, an enzyme came together by it self (zero chance). Enzymes are basic building blocks of human DNA, the building block of the cell, which is even more profoundly complicated. Random unguided processes does not explain this reality with out intelligence behind it. Man's language, creativity and soul (yes) isn't an accident from a common origin, a cell that "POOF" happened, on its own in the primordial ooze, grew legs and crawled out to become everything. Ludicrous.

[sSereth]

Why the malicious attacks? What happened to being good and kind?

Who says we believe in 'nothing'? Since when was nihilism equal to atheism? Atheists are moral and well-educated people and we genuinely appreciate the world, the universe, and everything understanding has to offer for us.

[gmcjetpilot]

The last video clip is from "Expelled" the movie. The whole movie is on youtube. In the interview Dawkins admits that there could be intelligence behind life? WOW, but he goes on to say ABG, anything but God (and his motive is to destroy religion?). This implies Aliens I guess. May be Ron L Hubbard & Dawkins are alike? That is what evolution does, SiFi writing. Extrapolating well beyond the observed with grand claims, using incompatible and conflicting theories that don't support conclusions.

[sSereth]

Atheist charities- there are plenty of secular charities out there. Doctors Without Borders is one among many. Also it's harder to rally atheists together in one specific group because the only thing we necessarily have in common is a disbelief in something and everything else is up to us, whereas with religions there is usually a whole community/set of beliefs to take in.

And Bill Gates is, if not an atheist, nonreligious. But I have better things to worry about...

[sSereth]

I'm not going to deny that a lot of good has come out of religion, but people shouldn't, and don't, need god and the threat of eternal guilt to be good people. But a lot of bad has come out of religion, too. There's so much death and persecution and lunacy and ignorance of science.

[gmcjetpilot]

Ever studied the Bible seriously? Ever prayed? Do you know any thing about religion, not just a comparative religion class taught by an atheist. If you don't believe fine. Live your Godless life and shut up. Religion is not hurting you. Religion (Judea-Christianity) is Good and does GOOD things and gives people GREAT joy and comfort and helps the poor and needy. Atheist are not doing it. People who volunteer at mission homeless shelters are doing God's work. Are you an intolerant thought Nazi?

[sSereth]

If you're not willing to listen to anyone, then don't expect me to listen to you. We can have a respectable discussion if you want, but otherwise you can bugger off.

[sSereth]

Also, I hate to feel like I need to mention it, but just because you think faith is great doesn't make it any more true.

[gmcjetpilot]

WOW 7 comments? Thanks for the info but I disagree, and you're wrong and I am right. So there. Ha ha. You suffer from the ABG syndrome...... Anything But God. I hope you and Dick Dawkins will be very happy together in your same sex civil union.

[sSereth]

"I'm right and you're wrong"? Isn't that a bit childish?

Also, I wouldn't need a civil union, I am a female. Even more childish that you think calling me a homosexual is an insult.

[geeflyboy]

"I'm a female" I'm sorry? You're going play the victim sanctimony self righteous card? I'm so sorry for everything I said, thought or dreamed about. OK

Some videos you'll enjoy and laugh at, they are good, relevant to the discussion, seriously:

>>Expelled: Stein's Interview with Dawkins

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>>Richard Dawkins Beware the Believers

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>>Debating Refuting Darwin Dawkins

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[DocumentaryGuy]

what are we here in kindergarden....that was so stupid....but scientific.....like the stories of the bible very scientific....example ...king david now believable because of the tablet that bears his name.....1 of thousand of examples that the bible is historicaly scientific....duhhhhhh

[Anarkokommunist]

He was good looking back then!=)

[alabam5]

Agreed!

[Spandam]

Oh yes, but some of the shirts he used to wear on this programme was gastly

[Anarkokommunist]

True!

[IzzyBunneh]

i agree completely with professor dawkins, faith based in reason is fine. it's the unchanging, unquestioning faith of religion that's dangerous

i've heard the quote that a christain must deny their common sense if it contradicts the word of God... this kind of leads me to believe that most christains either don't believe, or don't fully understand their own beliefs, since they seem to ignore for the most part the bits of the bible that us modern secularists would consider unethical

[Omid45]

His using the words faith to make religious people get this. That is no faith, his using it for people with small brain (religious people). That was all math, and science, it was a time, speed, and distance calculation. You release an object with a certain weight, at a certain speed and take into account the variables, such as wind(if any) gravity, and other forces you can perfectly predict how far, and where that object is going to go, and stop. Now that's science, and atheism.

[sealdazeal]

Where does Mr. Dawkins get his ethics and moral from? Did the ball, rope, or his calculations give him those. That's besides the point, but please ask yourself if existentialism is the answer to all Metaphysics. If that simple demonstration proved mans purpose and reason for being on earth, then you have just insulted the entire human race. B/c we are sure some dummies if Dawkins rope example is the basis of all Truth in how we should live, bring up our families, and so forth. ~seal

[Omid45]

First of all that demonstration had nothing to do with moral, and how we should raise our families. It was just to show religious people that have faith in things with evidence, not just blind faith, and do everything for blind faith. Secondly morals come from small steps too. In a sense morals have a none physical evolution. As we see first humans killing each other, and then things improved over thousands, and millions of years. Your saying morals came from bible, and god?

[sealdazeal]

I suppose you would say Morals came from Evolution or the Big Bang Theory. Or perhaps another census or people Group predating Judaism right? Yet, we have two different starting points on our epistemology. My doctrine of Truth and starting point is the Bible, yours is Theory and yourself. But you accuse us (Christian Theist)of having Blind Faith yet you entertain a theory of Evolution as plausible for asexual reproductions amongst Humans? Not to mention Baby ape grows into man.

[sealdazeal]

Dawkins himself said in the movie Expelled that he believed Aliens came down and created the first building cell. But again, he is considered reasonable. Morals of course have non physical evolution. They are immaterial. You are going to have to drop the empiricism and pick up metaphysics in reality. So Theist see physical manifestations of our morality. Whether they are obediant or disobediant. So you my friend do have blind faith. I can't prove my supposition or starting point to you.

[Omid45]

haha, "Expelled" so your the person that watches those movies. I forgot but, that movie has less hits then the worst movie that came out that month. That loser in that movie is a retard lier. Prof. Dawkins never said He for sure believes ales came down, and created the first building cell!! your just making that up, or that retard in that movie "expelled" did. He said this idea is possible, yet not likely, and also those "aliens" are no different then we are. They came through evolution too.

[sealdazeal]

Haha,anyone who would entertain such an idea I consider irrational. Why doesn't he just become a diest already. Same idea, different characters. Did you see the movie? Sounds like no. Until then, please don't talk off of assumptions. Dawkins should stick to science and leave rhetoric and philosphy to the pro's like Kunt and Russell. Dead people...LOL... Anywho, looking at this naive crowd and this wack video was quite entertaining.

[Omid45]

i saw the previews, and was full of lies, stupidity, and everything was phony, and fake. That guy is retarded, if your basing your arguments on him, then I'm not even going to bring my level down to yours. The alien thing, in expelled, was taken out of context. He was Prof. Dawkins did say at the end that this idea is has no evidence, and just an idea. He never said it was a possibility.

[Omid45]

What are you saying? Morals coming from big bang, or evolution. Those two are just a two different branches of science. What exactly do you mean by morals came from big bang.  Big bang is an explosion of gases/energy, and matter, what does that have to do with morals? Also when you say evolution, which evolution you talking about, bio-evolution, like i said morals came through evolution, and revolution of ideas, not the evolution of life?? Also you don't know theory means apparently.

[sealdazeal]

Oh so you have a book or something where you get your morals from? What I mean is that evolutionist have no foundation for right or wrong b/c there is no foundation to deduce morals from. Then you are going to have to rely on a consensus of a particular society. Hopefully not America, b/c these yuppie's are God crazy. Churches on every other block. So when I say evolution I mean egg to bird, orgin of speices, darwinism...a.k.a. survival of the fit. So where do you get morality from?

[Omid45]

Yes i do. Books of philosophers, where you get yours form too. They say things like. Treat others like how you want to be treated. and causing less in the world. are you suggesting that we get our morals from the bible??! just tell me "no". cause if you were, you would be killing, raping, and owning slaves right now, and stoning women, and killing every person that worked on Sundays, which is most of the world. Now you look at verse verse Exodus 31:15, and tell me why you don't do it?

[sealdazeal]

Jesus said that one homie skillet. Sunday is not the Sabbath day guy. Saturday is. Now I employ you in order to stay rational, please read books in context and not random verses plucked out to suit your own meaning. It will make you look bad. These assertions you are making about the Bible promoting rape is absurd. Killing yes, stoning you betta believe it, stoning women and men for Adultery, heck yeah. Adultery is a felony in Florida Law books. If only they enforced it.

[Omid45]

that's the good old excuse. excuses for everything. I mean i don't know how else you can read these deadly verses? It clearly tells you, directly, and in content, "They shall be put to *DEATH*". So why do you cheery pick verses? you look at 31:15, and choose not to do it. Well that shows we all get our morals from somewhere else, and that's why that verse looks "bad" to you. Since you already know killing is bad, so you pick the ones that you think are good, and make excuses about the rest.

[sealdazeal]

How is it a excuse to read things in context? Is the Bible telling Christians today to do the things you see in Exodus? Uh no. We are not the Children of Israel that were in Exodus. We don't hear an audible voice from God, at least Orthodox Christians don't. some yahoo's do, but I will help you debate them. The killings done in Exodus were done to whom YHWH considered wicked. People who sacraficed their children to idols. But you didn't read that far perhaps. It's called eisegeting.

[sealdazeal]

Yet,please read Exodus in it's context. Also, God's Laws are offensive to those you reject his Lordship. So you would have to be given revelation to accept God's Holy Law and Standards.Now please tell me what Philosphers you are derived morality from. Hume? Russell? Hagel? Homer? Lucians? Stoics? You made the blanket statement of the discussion. Books of Philosophy? Which one? Plato? Socrates? Aquinas? The Greeks who were into rearing young boy's in the butt to make them men? Don't get cute.

[sealdazeal]

But I do employ you my friend that what Dawkins just showed you is not Faith with evidence, but merely mathematics. Faith with evidence isn't Faith at all. So no one can prove the evidence of God with tangible evidence. It is Faith given by God. I pray that you plead for such a gift. The first humans had to have an orgin. Did they start as infants killing each other? Were they born men killing? Please ponder these things my friend. Grace and Peace,seal

[Remus0387]

young richard dawkins, quite a good looking fellow.

[sSereth]

indeed :}

[SparrowisSexy]

He's not even young here (50) but handsome nonetheless ;)

[isselman2000]

Well, that proves that God doesn't exist. He would have had the perfect opportunity to bash Dawkins' brains in.

[dechha1981]

That's what I like about Science. Unlike Mythology, Science can actually be demonstrated.

[sSereth]

truth

[Caporegime11]

Before even having the chance to learn something new, you must have an open mind, a believing mind before needing proof. Benefit of doubt, a free GIFT without needing a proof. Only after this can you anaylse and rationalise what you freely accepted as maybe truth. But 'believing' is a necessity in scientific method. If not, we'd never be able to advance not believing anything before having the proof that something is true, and how can we acquire truth without freely giving benefit of doubt?

[sSereth]

Interesting view, but I dont think its really the benefit of the doubt so much as a tentative proposal to be tested.

[Adamtrr]

Only in science can faith be considered truthfull in religion it is bogus.

[Lacolith]

It's a miracle!

[Erech01]

lol, 'i felt the wind off it' nice little joke:P

[gm679]

he's brilliant

[Iambecome]

Isn't he brilliant? Why can't there be more people like Richard Dawkins - the world would be such a better place.

[synonys]

Nice, but he uses faith wrong. He should have just said 'believe/belief'

[sSereth]

The word faith has multiple definitions - he did use it appropriately.

I agree that it would be better if he had said otherwise, though. It can be too easily misinterpreted.

[Quinzio]

Your opinion is reasonable. But when your head could be broken by a 10Kg cannonball, you need faith, whatever it is.

[Subfavscream]

I expect if he did that lecture today he probably wouldnt have used the word faith.

[Erech01]

good faith should be testable, faith in god or othe supernatural faith cannot be tested, thats the difference

[kevinmurphy]

Nice little experiment.

[sSereth]

Sorry the sound timing is off. The original video was already like that.