A Matte Painting & VFX Reel - Vancouver Film School (VFS)

[ImaginationRendering]

Awesome! 10!!!!!!!!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=AYQplSZVxi­s

[mickycheese27]

kind of looks like gears of war 2

[rubent100]

ooh a female did this. nice fusion has 3d system just like nuke. i didn't know. im using nuke myself to create these shots. but im also integrating live action. i think this scene is color corrected for non live action, am i wrong?

[lezoufilm]

and what about the story?

[freddo212]

It's a demo real, they're not ment to be a story but more of a way of advertising the student for future employment, learning how to use new software and advertising for how great the schools courses are.

[melanciaassasina]

Totally amazing! We don't have anything similar in ours film schools. Congratulations!

[erccmmo]

so yeah... if that doesnt get you hired... then nothing will...

great work, tottaly pro.

[jkaramk]

Nice demo reel

[eblind]

I've always thought matte painting with computer is that you do all the work by hand (just with pc and digital drawing tablet), without adding sruff to pre-existing photos.

[stokmarknes]

Do you mean rotoscoping? Or animation with freehand?

[freddo212]

†he way i remember doing matte paintings was with matte plates and counter matte plates in an optical printer, using actual painings done by skilled artists, or using paintings painted on glass, infront of the camera, or compositing the filmed footage by rear projection, into a small amount of the painting. And though these methods took about 10 times longer than digital stuff, they gave some amazing results, look at the warehouse scene in "RADERS OF THE LOST ARC"

[ameridat]

Beautiful work, and TY for showing the breakdowns.

[eddiefuzz]

That's true. the term 'matte' comes from the pre-digital age, when a section of the live-action background was blacked, or 'matted' out, then replaced by another photographic image, or a painting, hence the term, 'matte painting'.

[explosiveshrooms]

pretty awesome

[NevLou]

I definitly like the sound and the look of this movie. Is there maybe a sound-archive of the VFS that is free to download?

[bonthan]

what were the softwares used?

[Arceno]

The size of the video is really too small, we can't really see the details in the painting ;(.

[SteamValidateUserID]

I was wondering how matte painting was done

[eddiefuzz]

In the old days an artist painted the whole thing on glass with a brush. Have a look at the paintings in the first three Star Wars films. This isn't matte painting, it's just sticking photographs together.

[Wiilovewii]

Sorry but as you mentioned...that was in the old days...

[eddiefuzz]

Yes, the old days when people were talented artists who could paint things from scratch, not stick things together that already exist. Once again, look at the paintings in the first three Star Wars films, particularly The Empire Strikes Back, to see how it was done in the 'old days'.

[spacesprayer]

Oh man, you are so wrong! Yes, the artists before the mid-nineties had to do everything on glass and were very talented traditional artists, but digital matte painters today still require the same skills and techniques. If there is no suitable photo reference, a modern matte artist will still have to paint the whole thing by hand.

[eddiefuzz]

Well obviously, I'm not being critical of anyone who possesses painting skills, whether they are using a computer or not, I'm just saying that a bunch of photos stuck together cannot be called a matte painting, because it is grossly unfair to people who can actually paint.

[spacesprayer]

in that case, fait enough. There are a lot of people (amateurs) that stick random photos together and call it a matte painting, but the pros are seriously talented artists, not just photo-cut-and-pasters. Generally in the film industry the artist on uses photo textures to add detail to the already painted shot, just to save time painting it all.

[eddiefuzz]

Hello Spacesprayer. I've created pictures in photoshop myself, using the paint programme, and I have friends in the industry who use CGI for their graphics. I thought that the last three Star Wars films had some great digital mattes, that were obviously created from scratch, so were're probably on the same side in our opinions.

[spacesprayer]

Yes i think we probably are. Plus the fact of course that a lot of matte painters also work as conceptual artists would suggest that they are accomplished artists and not just photo cut-and-pasters. Dead right about the Star Wars matte paintings.

[Davidescobell]

Man you're so wrong! You're saying "the old days when people were talented artists" . Nowadays you take advantage of technology, that doesn't mean painting non-digitally is out. Do you have ANY idea the amount of work that goes into something like a digital Matte Painting?

[eddiefuzz]

Having worked in special effects for over twenty years, I know exactly the amount of work that goes into a digital matte painting, and and of course I'm not saying that there is no talent required. But creating a painting from scratch with paints and brushes is a thousand times more difficult than putting images of already existing clouds and mountains together, and matching them up digtally.

[Davidescobell]

Special Effects? Special effects are not visual FX, but I get your point. What I Think is the final result is what matters the most. I actually think that if you have the skills, you'll do it faster if you do it digitally. This is the way it is. And also, I know there is still lots of digital matte painters who do it from scratch, using photoshop, and matching digitally. That would be ok, wouldn't it? If you got the talent, different tools make you speed up the process.

[TriangularFilms]

i agree , painting is harder

[millthor]

They are different techniques. As a traditional artist starting in matte painting, I can say that matte painting is NOT easier. It`s easy to see the final result and say "but they use pictures", but compositing and color correcting is just one small part of the job, that is not as easy as it seems. Matte painting means that you know all the theory that a painter uses because you ALWAYS have to complete something by yourself, most of the times you even have to hand animate some photoreal details.

[TriangularFilms]

you responded to something i said 1 month ago, wow.....lol

[darkpivotpro]

Now I'm responding to something you said 2 months ago. XD

[liammaier]

im now responding to something you sayd a week ago. gosh damm me is so quick

[darkpivotpro]

lol

[northliam]

Well yes, of course digitally is 'less difficult'. But that's the point, the industry has had to evolve to become more efficient and have better results. It requires a different type of skill, not less.

And also Davidescobell, generally, saying 'special effects' sums up every aspect of it, which means it includes visual FX.

[eddiefuzz]

Well in principle, I certainly agree with that, but the problem, is that the new digital FX doesn't always deliver better results. In the Hulk movies, for example, the Hulk himself looks like an animated cartoon, and many digital FX look more like computer games than real life.

[northliam]

That's true, I was just referring to matte paintings.

[wyxvt]

Wel, I have to agree that it was harder in the old days of glass paintings. You had to have artistic talent and do it from scratch, while today painters have it easier because matte painting today are not really paintings but collages from stolen bits of photographs.

[pixiniarts]

Very few matte painters 'just makes collages from bits of stolen photos' most artists paint digitally often creating their own brushes and they may also build and texture in 3d, some use traditional paintings imported into the computer, then there is 2.5d matte painting and displacement painting.. and very few steal photographs. Today's matte painters just have a different skill set and yes, plenty of artistic talent and knowledge is still a requirement.

[Equinoxx7]

I see where your coming from, but artistic talent is still required. The artistic eye, an eye for Light, Composition and so on. It is true that most are not really paintings, in today's industry I think it is important to paint as less as possible, actually what lead matte painter at Framestore said, " paint as less as possible" because with technology getting better and so on, HD ect. huge cinema screens, you cant afford for anything in the slightest bit to look "fake".

[Equinoxx7]

Matte painters need to know how to design, futuristic landscapes, buildings ect. Also the photographs are not stolen, any professional would not "steal" anything, many photographer's create stock accounts for artists to use, there are many stock sites as well. And finally, most decent matte painters have camera's of there own, and are photographer's themselves as well as painter's. please don't flame back, just discuss.

[flushatoalett]

I bet you're not a matte-painter.

[JoKKeSvin]

Nice, but the fading of the credits is way off! It simply starts to fade too fast...

[xkimberly]

damn thats good

[nba185]

wow. really good.

[wroguard]

Really good work.

[DudeManProductions]

This is amazing!!!