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  • They must be 1 000 ft separated, this is compleately normal, don´t be worrey about ;)

    

  • Not close at all but i like the pics tho :D

  • Its not JAL, the 747in the video belongs to South African Airlines

  • 1000ft is normal flight separation i think. Someone can correct me on that so not that close really.

  • I am an airline pilot myself, and this is something we see pretty much every day. This looks like a 1000 feet to me and is standard vertical separation. Remember a B-747 is a huge bird and will appear very close due to its size at 1000 feet.

  • How close are they?...

    Not close wanna se close and near crash if few feet higher?

    Watch this then /watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=95H­S8VQO4ig

  • Standard separation is 1000 feet vertical and 1 nm horizontal, which this event clearly conforms to; from the video it would seem that the JAL 747 is climbing away from Sydney onto a corresponding course at one flight level below the BA aircraft. It can only be assumed that it would be subsequently cleared to higher levels, while the BA flight descended to join the circuit for landing at Sydney Inter. No airprox was filed for this event subsequently.

  • @jonnybee48

    Even 500 feet separation is standard if you will take the VFR flights [9.500 feet or lower]additionaly.

    So everything is controlled and OK!

  • this is normal,try to fly into london heathrow and you'll seealot of this...

  • I'm an italian air traffic controller and this is a standard vertical separation.

  • This is not a near miss. One or two miles laterally and at least 1,000 feet (probably 2,000) vertically. Holding most likely.

  • More than a thousand feet vertical separation. They aren't near misses at all, don't panic. If they're closer than a mile on your flight level then you can pay attention. You were safe

  • You can see this any time you're in a holding pattern. Several planes if you're over somewhere like Heathrow. Including ones passing above and below you.

  • I don't see a near miss

    because a near miss= collision ;)

  • Good thing the music is not Dreamscape.

  • so not 1 second apart

    

  • I've already seen closer also ... in heavy traffic sky of Singapore. One time , in holding pattern, we've seen the face of passengers of Cebu pacific A320, just near and below.

  • Almost crunched.

  • THE backing music is called BEAT OF THE MOMENT! by009 sound system!,

  • This is not a near miss. If you fly towards Chicago O'Hare Airport or Atlanta Int Airport, you could even see closer and landing together but in a separate runway. This one is pretty much a normal situation and considered safe by any standard.

  • It is clear to see that your plane and the other planes are in a holding pattern waiting for clearance into sydney. This is perfectly normal with planes flying different altitudes within the pattern using a standard separation

  • its not actually close its much farther away than it looks

  • Bags of room....

  • That was easily 1000 feet vertical separation, which is the minimum for cruise flight (although it seems too close when you get overtaken by a plane twice your size at minimum separation)

  • Near miss? are they supposed to hit each other then? I think you should call it a near hit!

  • @MrSelectrix nonsense - this is a good separation

  • No near miss la. Scenes like this happen all the time over Heathrow esp during the morning arrival peaks when huge no of jumbos of Asian carriers circling around waiting for landing slots.

  • perhaps they are not 2000 ft apart (despite being in rvsm), but may be composite separation was applied

  • NOT a near miss

  • This is common it doesn't mean anything.

  • nice video mate

  • what''s the title of this trance music

    ?

  • yup nothing wrong there if you xan see the piolot waving back then its too close

  • That is not a near miss,you want to watch the skys over jfk to see how busy it is

  • it may seem close because there japanease

  • Dude I fly closer than that to 747s' in the military nothing dangerous about it

  • i liked the sound. can somebody tell me what's the title?

  • How close are they? Not close enough to matter. This happens all the time. Not only are they far apart side to side, they're also far apart in regards to altitude.

  • Clearly you are an inexperienced flyer. When on decent into an airport is common place for aircraft to be close together but at different levels (each circle of the airport is usually 1000ft) and the same direction.

  • these incidents are totally normal. All aircraft must be fitted with a transponder that is picked up radar and displays the call sign (typically speedbird XX for BA) also has the heading (001 - 360 degrees) Altitude and speed (KNT). your pilot would have been told by ATC of a Boeing 747 at 9 oclock at 27,000ft report him in sight, and will do the same to the other plane. he may tell you to go up or down turn left or right.

  • i had it 20 feet away  so

  • How close are they? About the same safe distance as you and another vehicle on the road?

  • I'm a BA crew member. I can assure you its on a different flight level. This is standard operating procedure. Not close at all.

  • nice photos!! but near miss?????? you need to learn more about flying

  • A near miss doesnt need to be nearly a collision.

    It can even be classsed near miss or an incident if 2 planes MIGHT have collided had they continued on an uncorrected course.

  • virgin atlantic ? 2:00

    

  • this happens all the time on planes and they have crashed

    

  • what is this song?

  • it might look close but thats quite far away, fighter jets now they fly close where they can pass stuff to each other and take pictures of one another lol

  • RVSM means 1000ft sep, this is 2000 maybe 1000 ft :)

  • I've been much closer to another aircraft in the air before.

  • They are obviously 2000 feet apart no need for such a catchy title. Besides you should fly in the U.S. you would see what a busy airspace is all about!

  • It is a plane from quantas isn't it?

  • No.

  • they're pretty far. if planes could rotate as quickly as a helicopter while maintaining speed and both were dead set on a collision course than yeah they would only be a few seconds apart. That's not possible however. they are flying parallel and at different flight levels in preset flight corridors so no this was not a close call

  • With RVSM (Reduced Vertical Separation Minima) specific planes can fly with a minimum 1000ft vertical separation; approximately 300m. These planes are not dangerously close, you will find planes normally fly alongside/above/below each other along main routes due to sheer volume of air traffic. Technology allows this to happen with no risk, although obviously you will get the odd person panicking when they happen to see another plane through the window!

  • Vertical separation

    Between the surface and an altitude of 29,000 feet (8,800 m), no aircraft should come closer vertically than 300 metres or 1,000 feet (in those countries that express altitude in feet), unless some form of horizontal separation is provided. Above 29,000 feet (8,800 m) no aircraft shall come closer than 600 m (or 2,000 feet), except in airspace where Reduced Vertical Separation Minima (RVSM) can be applied.

  • Haven't you ever looked out the window at a major airport before? I've counted between 15 and 20 airplanes many times when circling at ATL...

  • They were drag racing not a quarter mile but a 1000 mile track

  • Want to see how 'close' the planes are, go to 1:00

  • that was a standard procedure...

  • They are at elast 60s apart, you cannot navigate tehm into each other from this angle at diferent speeds.

  • some dumd asses on here kill me ..saying the planes are not to colse ...they could hit each other in just a matter of a few sec ..since each plane is moviing about 400 mph ..at that speed it wouldn't take long to run right into rach other

  • @DukeNukem1011 Yeah but that would be if they are heading straight towards each other. I'm pretty sure with today's technology, such as TCAS they are aware of each presence.

  • @DukeNukem1011 I am a private pilot and also fly a lot (in the military) and I see this all the time, mainly on long transatlantic or transpacific flights or during decent to landing when there are parallel runways and both are being used for landing. This is perfectly normal and the FAA has guidelines on how close planes are allowed  to come to each other.

  • @DukeNukem1011 yeah, unfortunately your logic breaks down when you realize they are headed in the same direction, and it's kind of hard to hit something unintentionally when you can see it

  • @DukeNukem1011 TCAS buddy TCAS

  • @DukeNukem1011 They aren't close at all. They are at least 1k feet apart which is the standard minimum safe distance between 2 aircraft .

    To you and me sure they seem close, however even at a mile apart 2 aircraft closing in on each other could easily hit each other in a matter of a few seconds. So what do you think that the minimum safe distance should be?

  • idea woud be 3000 feet side by side

  • Just few secondes apart and a thousand feet apart too

  • 009 Sound System cracks me up.

  • This happens everywhere. sone airport in USA have same parallel runways with 100 meters distance and both plane can land at same time on both runways

  • Another plane is close when you can see the Pilot flying the other planes eyes Bulging!

  • its on a different flight level, standard operating procedure it will be min of 4000ft below if a/c is above 29000ft and 2000ft below if below this level. nothing unsafe or near miss like about this at all!

  • Normal Seperation!

    

  • The other plane is clearly banking to the left.

  • about 3 nautical miles

  • I've seen that so many times flying back and forth from Chicago to Florida, not to worry, the planes are separated both horizontally and vertically by 1000's of feet, besides, looks to me as if the Japanese Airline 747 is banking to the LEFT.

  • Seriously, when you land a DFW airport you're coming in closer than that sometimes when you come in to land...

  • Not even close,I've been in near misses

  • The 747 is at least 3000 feet under your plane, so the can fly atop of each other, if they wish!

  • Yes a few seconds apart if they were head on... in these pics... they are divergent, also, as long as the over taking pilot can maintain visual separation they can get pretty close... fly in to New York, Chicago, or Atlanta some time

  • I don't see any lack of separation or anything. With normal 1000feet of vertical in this video is probably standard(if in normal RVSM).

    Or if you think it's near missed. Go see traffics of JFK APP That's for real...

  • I'm sorry but that wasn't even close...

  • Near miss? You're kidding! It's some thousand meters away!

  • Where is the near miss? All i can see is normal 1000 feet separation which is according to procedure

  • how is this even close to being a near miss? aircraft being this near to one another is more common than you realize just stake out your local airport and you will see

  • i seen this flight over the irish sea from a thomson airways 737

  • hey, that that plane wasn't close enough for you guys, doesn't mean this isn't a great video!!!

  • ...that always happens when I'm on a plane..people just can't see it 'cause they're usually asleep or have their windows closed.

  • They appear close but in fact they are miles/kilometers apart.

  • Whowwwwwwwwww, there's an airplane ..............................­........ NOT very close actually. Looks like more than minimal separation to me.

  • This is WELL within the acceptable civil aviation tolerances for distances between planes at that sort of height.

  • in cabin nothing happens, in cockpit everything happens... and I'm sure the pilot have traffic, as it is the duty of the tower informs that ... and I'm sure it did

  • This is fairly close but when I went to turkey there was one way closer. No offence!

  • no where near man, iv'e seen closer

  • Probably in a holding pattern. When you're turning in a hold, aircraft look a lot closer

  • music id? Please

  • that happened to me in an a320 over switzerland with an md11 exept it went right over us!

  • officially they should be seperated by max 1000ft. means 300meters.

    This is more then 300meters. during take off and landing the diference is ofcourse bigger.

  • Between the surface and an altitude of 29,000 feet (8,800 m), no aircraft should come closer vertically than 300 metres or 1,000 feet (in those countries that express altitude in feet), unless some form of horizontal separation is provided. Above 29,000 feet (8,800 m) no aircraft shall come closer than 600 m (or 2,000 feet), except in airspace where Reduced Vertical Separation Minima (RVSM) can be applied.

  • news media would make this out to be seconds from death but thats really far away

  • Definatly a "TRAFFIC WARNING!" but nothing to be worried about.

  • Do I really need to have an Obama ad pop up on my screen while on youtube?

  • That is way more than the 1500ft seperation.

  • @MrPilotSimon RVSM airspace (which covers most of the globe now) requires 1000ft seperation. Giving altitude clearences in 500ft increments is a pain in the arse.

  • "how close are they?" - Not very mate.

  • It's a busy airway...

  • While doing 800-900km/h that is pretty close. Thanks to the airtraffic controllers who know how to do their job.

  • you could fit 100 planes in that gap. health and safety nowadays eh

  • On a flight to Mauritius Island, i've seen much nearer!

  • aslong as the aircraft aren't heading for a colission, this is okay.

  • They are almost a mile apart! You cant even read the numbers off the JAL jet.

  • What people will make a near miss - incredible.

  • It's further away than it looks . I was inboard an easy jet flight a few weeks ago and a ryaniar plane seemed to come really close but it was actually a few miles away :)

  • First I have to say: I'm a glider pilot and in a thermal there are only metres between us. Okay, A glider is of course an other kind of plane with oher speeds, but listen "ONLY A FEW METRES BETWEEN". In this Video is nothing dangerous! When the pilots and the people in tower stay in attention then all is okay.

    Sorry for my bad english!

  • Oh NO! So cloooosse! What ever should the PROFESSIONAL Pilots do?!

  • near miss is when you can read the other aircraft's registration

  • the legle limit for commercial planes is 1000 ft apart only the air force can fly closer this is at least 5000 ft away,

  • clearly you have never been stuck in a holding pattern when flying into LHR.

  • This is perfectly normal. 

  • there miles away.. when ive been to orlando from manchester there was like a plane touching the wings put it was about 4 miles away

  • lol that plane was probably 2 miles away from the other. i work right down the road from an international airport and have seen FAR closer when actually landing.

  • Try San Fran thats interesting when your side by side to another Heavy.

  • no near miss about it. JAL is lower and maintaining seperation. both aircraft are also fitted with TCAS so they know exactly where they are

  • Looks Like Good Vertical Separation To Me.

    1000FT Is Much Closer Than People Think

  • this music makes me want to slit my wrists

  • this is so so far away. ive seen much closer when im on board a plane landing to Perth WA.

  • That's quantas not japanese air..

  • @tomibewi Looked like JAL to me.

    And spell QANTAS correctly next time.

  • As far as I know a near miss is when planes come close together without the pilots and/or air traffic controllers realising it. Its OK for them to come reasonable close if they know where each other is and fly accordingly.

  • That aircraft is at least 1,000 feet below. That's the proper amount of vertical separation.

  • It looks like that 747 is banking left; perhaps it triggered the TECAS on both jets?

  • YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT A REAL "NEAR MISS" IS!!!

  • different altitudes, same direction, it would take awhile to close that gap. looking out the window you always see other planes zooming around, ever flown above NYC?

  • is that near ?

  • it is safe as long as nothing colourful is showing on TCAS

  • seen closer aircraft from the ground

  • "Flight B9" LOL.

  • Traffic is I'm ing and bearing away from your aircraft. Now....if you could see the top of the traffics fuselage turning onto an intercept course, I would be yanking the call button!

  • I thought BA-9 made an emergency lanidng in Indonesia after it's engines coughed on volcanic ash. Is BA still using the flight no. on flights today?

  • @BrickTVEntertainment If I'm not mistaken I think BA009 flies from Bangkok to Sydney. I saw my Thai friend's luggage tagged "BA009" and I was thinking "woah wasn't this the flight that got involved in the volcanic ash incident"

  • @BrickTVEntertainment Well kinda. At that time flight 9 was from London to Auckland with 5 stopovers. Now it's a flight from London to Sydney with 1 stopover only.

  • @BrickTVEntertainment BA009 is LHR-BKK-SYD 

  • @BrickTVEntertainment yes, BA009 is the route from London Heathrow to Sydney via Bangkok

  • @BrickTVEntertainment ...why wouldn't they? That was in the 80's and the plane landed safely anyway.

  • Come on, not dangerous in any way.

  • @slgordon3 dont want to sound a douche about this but if a plane is within 1mile of another its classed as a near miss

  • So where is this near miss? That happens everyday. Pretty normal occurrence.

  • Actually, that is not a near miss. It is common for high altitude aircraft to come close to each other. The pilots are in contact with centers and are warned on any nearby aircraft. As a passenger, I have seen other jets come real close, but not on any collision course. 

  • Eh looks like normal traffic not a near miss.

    If it was a near miss you would have FELT the jink...

  • prob 1.5 or 2 miles apart, plenty of room

  • @sethch53 That would be a loss of seperation guys !! Come on now............ so no, its NOT plenty of room.

  • ummmm looks like a couple of miles to me miles

  • What does it mean"a few seconds apart"?

  • @DaniyalRehman The time it takes for you to slam into another plane.

  • totally different altitudes. since you guys are bound to the same direction so you both at least have 2/3K feet apart. Also, depending on the region you are flying in..there are rules and regulations for aircraft seperation. That did look close. Good video overall though. =)

  • 1:25 Boeing 747-400 Thai Airways

  • far apart!!!

  • i think around 100 feet apart standard, i think ?

  • @francis2383 1000 feet apart in the vertical view, 2-4 miles from horizontal ;)

  • No near-miss at all, the other B747 is about 500-600 meters away and also 500-600 meters lower than your plane.

  • Thats not a near miss mate.

  • as long as 1000ft apart or 1 mile and that is both , looks closer in the air.

  • I have tried to see a tulip 737 300 feet over that plane i flied in sorry for the bad English

  • there is nothing close about those planes the 747 is big so you could see it a mile away

  • They are flying parallel in the same direction - they can be pretty close to each other, no problem.

  • not even close, i was flying from Heathrow to Lisbon, those airways are jammed packed, about 5 airplanes flying in the opposite direction were about 1 mile or less away from us at the same altitude, cool to see but makes you a little nervous

  • check out the clip on here, "somewhere over the atlantic" with the NWA flying parallel. it's nice!

  • Not close at all, I've had a BA 747 out of LAX come just over the top of us after take off from SAN, nearly head-on. Was a lil freaky. I'd worry more about landing and take off traffic than anything.

  • Im pretty damn certain, each set of pilots would have been more than aware of each other. They probably had been told by A.T.C and had to report each other in sight.

  • it doesnt matter how close they are, as an airline pilot I can tell there is at least 2000feet vertical separation here, minimum is 1000feet and is pretty cool when another aircraft passes directly over your flight path just 1000feet above/below

  • the regulation say it musb be aleast 6 miles apart it seem close but isnt

  • This is no near miss, say hello to the great Japan Airlines 747-400 which is right on it's correct heading. Your BA flight deck crew knew where he was at all times. You want to see some close aircraft, try the approach and departures into the great DFW or the great SFO and LAX. Nice photos, thanks.