i dont know what european elite is capable of? I know that they are incapable of winning global tournaments (as of now) and beating American jigglypuffs and have trouble with beating american falcons.
how do i not have a clue? watching vidoes from global tournaments is probably the best idea you can get about a matchup between 2 top players.
Also, I never said anything bad about European players at all. All I said was that in my opinion, Mango dominated Armada last time. And you are exaggerating this... I have nothing against any players from any region whatsoever. You seem to be taking my posts too personally or something.
sigh i feel bad for Chu =(. If the ICs (Nana I mean) had the AI she has in brawl.... Chu would probably be number 1 ranked smasher in the world. Chu is unstoppable when they are together but Nana Self Dies way more than she should... o well =P
lol ICs SUCK in brawl. dont take this the wrong way, cause ICs are my fav char in brawl, but nana's new AI is the worst. she kills you a lot if you dont know EXACTLY what youre trying to do. ICs have less combos and their mobility has been taken away due to no WD. ICs in brawl are left to running around fairly uselessly trying to use their inadequate movement speed to capitalize on small mistakes to try to get a grab.
Man, I enver noticed how much my friend plays like Ken. He told me he models his moves after Ken, But wow. Of course he's not as good as Ken but he's pretty good. Our Marth vs Falco matches are pretty awesome. So are our Samus vs Mario ones too.
Where the hell are you getting this info from? Last I checked M2K was 9th, and I'm not sure where the others are but I'm pretty sure your info is wrong.
1rst kill was awesome.... im a marth user but marth is cheap..... like if u get close enough which is still far ... auto kill from fair and bairs dead... chus awesome
Man... Chu doesn't chaingrab nearly as much as he should... He should run up and grab Ken whens he's still invincible after dying. Chu is still fucking badass!
that may sound foolproof but no pro is going to just sit around and let himself be grabbed when someone else has invincibility frames after dying. it just doesn't happen.
I honestly don't think Ken is the best in the world. Marth is so easy to play.. All he does is f-smash and fair, odd different attack here and there.. Rhymage :P
marth is easy to play at a low level, but at a high level, using his aerial attacks and mastering the nuances of his movement is very very difficult, which is why you see so many more good foxes and peaches than good marths in tournaments.
Ken = world champion, and marth is actually one of the hardest to play out of the best 8 characters (IC being harder and probably Samus). No-so-good Marth players get raped by spacies any day...
Ken is by popularity vote the best in the world and not only that he actually traveled around the world to beat the best there is. I dont see other players doing that =P. but you half right it isnt actually proven just taken as common knowledge ^_^
What big names are you talking about all the Pro Smashers in Japan got raped (or beaten) by Ken and Ken isn't even best in the US anymore there are even better players now. I hate how people name obscure Pro Smashers in like Mexico and I go look at their videos and their worse than me.... :|
Face it the US created Advance Play for Smash and we are the best Smashers. :] Simple Fact.
yes, but the japanese tier list is more advanced then the US one. don't say ken raped japan so US>Japan. ken rapes everyone. ken said if it was japan vs US in general, japan would win hands down
jebril or whomever u r. You clearly don't know what your talking about. US may have more pro smashers in all, but Jaoan staryed pro smash bach when the game first came out. US followed after maybe ayear or two. Plus US still gets wiped up by randoms who barely play seriouly, like bombsoldier. US is good, but I still think it's an exagerration to say were 'the best' and end the sentence wuth a period.
we are "the best". if we did a crew match between USA and the best of the rest of the world, we would win with at least 3 people left over. i wouldnt be surprised if m2k took out 3-4 people himself and we ended up only using 3 people to beat them all.
Yeah and I also know the results of genesis and how Armada can rape M2K or Mango or any American player, so I think Zgetto, or Amsah who are playing sheik or fox in Pal can beat the top USA in NTSC or Pal, wait and see what will happen at pound 4.
he said that 3-4 years ago. as of now, japan would be demolished by US, as would any country. i watched a european crew match, france/italy vs UK and as i watch it i see like 2 decent players in the whole crew and everyone else looks like the local scrubs by me.
Grats, you can beat Europeans at a game that is not taken seriously in Europe (regrettably though, I must admit, I LOVE this game). :P
Also, before you decide whether they suck or not, you should take the European DI into account... It's just ridiculous, and is much harder to combo and KO against than the US and Japanese versions.
Oh, and who's "we".
It's not like you are one of those that will be representing the US now, is it? :P
So yeah, unless you are a top pro, sit down and shut it. :D
you use "we" when referring to your country. for instance we dont say "the USA did good at the olympics this year" we say "we did good at the olympics this year".
i am a mid level tournament player from the midwest. no, i probably wouldnt be in that crew match, but i could hold my own if i did.
Lol, I remember this one. After Chu's crazy first combo on Ken, everyone was yelling, "HOLY S***, CHU'S MAD" because he was three-stocked in the previous match.
Ice Climbers are fucking annoying.
GaryOakBlue 1 year ago
How do you get the non-player controlled Ice Climber to attack while the player controlled one grabs?
ximbabwe0228 2 years ago
desynch them
jxw6762 2 years ago
dam europe gettin cocky in here lol.
you can't say armada "raped" mango....if anything, by their last set it was mango doing the raping.
but yea, we'll see at pound 4 next time.
TheQerb 2 years ago 2
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bigbaldin 1 year ago
@bigbaldin
i dont know what european elite is capable of? I know that they are incapable of winning global tournaments (as of now) and beating American jigglypuffs and have trouble with beating american falcons.
why u so mad?
TheQerb 1 year ago
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bigbaldin 1 year ago
@bigbaldin
how do i not have a clue? watching vidoes from global tournaments is probably the best idea you can get about a matchup between 2 top players.
Also, I never said anything bad about European players at all. All I said was that in my opinion, Mango dominated Armada last time. And you are exaggerating this... I have nothing against any players from any region whatsoever. You seem to be taking my posts too personally or something.
dont hate
TheQerb 1 year ago
@TheQerb you are right, im taking them to serious.
I wish there would be a match between M2K and Kjab or something.
bigbaldin 1 year ago
@bigbaldin
<3
i agree. those are 2 ridiculously fun players to watch heh
TheQerb 1 year ago
@TheQerb :) true, true
bigbaldin 1 year ago
Chu was my fav in this match but you gotta respect these close matches.
Poyo279 2 years ago
i am glad ken won
alexwrm 2 years ago
LOL @ Chu taunting halfway through the match for no reason.
xAfterDawnx 2 years ago
0:00 - 0:20 = Pure Win
1:46 Ken Combo w00t!
fireisrising0 2 years ago
nice first 20 seconds LMFAO!
also very impressive how chu survived so long as 1 ice climber
clayvision 3 years ago 2
Chu Dat is a total winner.
megabanjo03 3 years ago
lolol @ the first kill. Chu said, bitch, gtfo my stage.
also lawls at the ken combo on nana
icedragon109 3 years ago 2
that was amazing. You gotta be so incredibly good to live up to what youre stating when you try to ken combo somes other ice climber. LOLZ!
walterppk1989 3 years ago
I think this match sums up pretty well why Ken is #1 in the world.
falconpunch777 3 years ago
Well, yeah maybe now. My comment was long ago, and things have changed a whole lot in a short time.
OmegaFujin 3 years ago
that's some bad ass beggining
herosflute 3 years ago 10
sigh i feel bad for Chu =(. If the ICs (Nana I mean) had the AI she has in brawl.... Chu would probably be number 1 ranked smasher in the world. Chu is unstoppable when they are together but Nana Self Dies way more than she should... o well =P
Fr3nchD3vilDawg 3 years ago
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Luckily the ICs are improved in Brawl. There a bit more powerful and have more grab combos.
andrewajt62 3 years ago
lol ICs SUCK in brawl. dont take this the wrong way, cause ICs are my fav char in brawl, but nana's new AI is the worst. she kills you a lot if you dont know EXACTLY what youre trying to do. ICs have less combos and their mobility has been taken away due to no WD. ICs in brawl are left to running around fairly uselessly trying to use their inadequate movement speed to capitalize on small mistakes to try to get a grab.
Sveet 3 years ago
Chu Dat's ice climbers is very good. The usual people that would beat him would be, Azen, PC, Ken, and Isai.
TheUntamedSoul 3 years ago
lol i love the two first stock losses in this match
Hornilope 4 years ago
3:36-3:38 is rape..haha
good job to Ken is this match..he did pretty good.
luigi111111 4 years ago
Man, I enver noticed how much my friend plays like Ken. He told me he models his moves after Ken, But wow. Of course he's not as good as Ken but he's pretty good. Our Marth vs Falco matches are pretty awesome. So are our Samus vs Mario ones too.
WolfenFuhrer 4 years ago
k cool
fyreblaize 4 years ago 12
Lol when Chu is alone what has more priority folks? a wooden hammer or a souped up power sword cmon guess correctly
mclace 4 years ago 2
omg. that chain-grab combo at the beginning was amazing. i do that to my friends but i can't always do that as good as chu. chu is just awsome
lolSBK12345 4 years ago 2
opening chain throw was amazing
burleyspiderman 4 years ago 5
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ICs only chance is wobbling
magicalwizardboy 4 years ago
Some kinda freakin voodoo magic at 2:28-29
Visibore 4 years ago 2
Was wobbling aloud in this match?
howsthatforironic 4 years ago
wobbling was banned in the torunament
GCLU 4 years ago
Fucking 0% kill, the beginning combo by Chu dat was AMAZING!
Alkalite18 4 years ago 2
holy crap, 0-death Chu, nice
Hoobles 4 years ago
freaking awesome first stock for chu, but ken is too good
blurssbm 4 years ago
LOL! owned within 20 seconds of the game.
KeasbeyNite 4 years ago
ken got raped in the beginging
RunescapeMassacre 4 years ago 3
Wish I was that amazing with Ice Climbers, will be soon though.
The Nana Save at 2:27 was beautiful, only if she hadn't died right after.
KeasbeyNite 4 years ago 2
Chu got pissed
ssbmking15 4 years ago
where da hell is Isai in the list? btw this match was awesome!!!
777SasukeUrahara777 4 years ago
oh my GOD what the FFFFUCK!!! =D chu kicks ass
NOSFERATUalu 4 years ago
Damn Chu, u kick ass.
TheTrueMrMoo 4 years ago 2
craig, u forgot to say that, evo world was just 1 round match, how can somebady sy its better by winnng just 1 round?
Michelangelocba 4 years ago
lolol ken fanboys, ken isn't the best in the world anymore. its tied between chu, m2k and pc.
that with m2k beating ken in a marth ditto at OC3 i think you'll find he's still insane. But not the best
He may have won EvoWorld, but thats not as consistent as the other 3s tourny placings
craiiggbtry 4 years ago
Where the hell are you getting this info from? Last I checked M2K was 9th, and I'm not sure where the others are but I'm pretty sure your info is wrong.
burbboy27 4 years ago
you checked an outdated list that hasn't been updated in two years.
Mew2King has won nearly every tournament he's attened in 2007.
Ken has been taking third and fourth. The only one that ken won was evo
theonejanitor 4 years ago
WHY DO GOOD POSTS GET DOWNVOTED!
Timic83amv 4 years ago
where can i find vids of this?
i can't find them on youtube
Computer1992 4 years ago
00:04-00:18 omfg
MikeAngel06 4 years ago 2
Zero to death first stock...wow.
HeyNythius 4 years ago
Chu is definitely better with ice climbers it was close!
jamduke 4 years ago
damn great match
ZerosXL 4 years ago
fox and falco forever! >:0
hellbird999 4 years ago
1rst kill was awesome.... im a marth user but marth is cheap..... like if u get close enough which is still far ... auto kill from fair and bairs dead... chus awesome
tripmisterman 4 years ago
Man... Chu doesn't chaingrab nearly as much as he should... He should run up and grab Ken whens he's still invincible after dying. Chu is still fucking badass!
iamthegreatest1 4 years ago
Chu is best IC in the world. I think he knows what he's doing a little better than you >_>.
lolilops54 4 years ago
that may sound foolproof but no pro is going to just sit around and let himself be grabbed when someone else has invincibility frames after dying. it just doesn't happen.
IrrasO 4 years ago
yea everyone should grab them wen they're invincible. too bad the other guy can move around
smexy348 4 years ago
dude, wtf do you think he was trying to do? did you actually watch the video or what chu was doing?
PandoraCanBe 4 years ago
Ken got outplayed on this one, he just had a few moments of brilliance that saved it for him.
Ryurax3 4 years ago
I think that what Chu did to Ken on his first stock should officially be known as a "Chu Combo".
tallerthanyou 4 years ago
lol nice ken combo on nana ken :P
boooshk 4 years ago
Chu's the fucking man!
iamthegreatest1 4 years ago
1:34 nice desync chu.
iamthegreatest1 4 years ago
first stock was too good^^
ADamIAkFg 4 years ago
Nice match, esp beggining, but marth is too good vs climbers. also, why r all oc2 vids on final d?
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garyyoko 5 years ago
wow chu dat is sick
han926 5 years ago
I honestly don't think Ken is the best in the world. Marth is so easy to play.. All he does is f-smash and fair, odd different attack here and there.. Rhymage :P
lolilops54 5 years ago
Dun hate on ken, fore he is the best.
Saturi 5 years ago
dumbass. u obviously aren't good at this game then.
boooshk 4 years ago
marth is easy to play at a low level, but at a high level, using his aerial attacks and mastering the nuances of his movement is very very difficult, which is why you see so many more good foxes and peaches than good marths in tournaments.
MaskedFalcon 4 years ago
Yeah, that was an old post. I am a lot better now and I agree with you. I'm still no pro though >_< :P
Xarlot3 4 years ago
I'm glad someone understands Marth alot better.
ldsoldier 4 years ago
Ken = world champion, and marth is actually one of the hardest to play out of the best 8 characters (IC being harder and probably Samus). No-so-good Marth players get raped by spacies any day...
tkdlero 4 years ago
Since when is Ken is the best in the world??
He's the best in the US.
When they have a tourney with the all the biggest names in the world and Ken wins then I'll believe it.
RJay12291 4 years ago
Ken is by popularity vote the best in the world and not only that he actually traveled around the world to beat the best there is. I dont see other players doing that =P. but you half right it isnt actually proven just taken as common knowledge ^_^
Scyres 4 years ago
Actually Ken hasn't gone to fight Kizzu or EK.
Or anywhere that isn't the US or Japan.
RJay12291 4 years ago
I'm a fan of Kizzu too, but he's not as good as the good Marths in the US.
He looks extremely good because the level of people he faces are not on par with US pros...
He still has fun matches to watch though.
Protoguy1 4 years ago 2
Ken has done that.
but as of 2007 ken is no longer the best.
but before then he was, without a doubt the best player in the entire world
theonejanitor 4 years ago
hell yeah, so many people argue that he wasnt but they just make themselves look sucky
blurssbm 4 years ago
What big names are you talking about all the Pro Smashers in Japan got raped (or beaten) by Ken and Ken isn't even best in the US anymore there are even better players now. I hate how people name obscure Pro Smashers in like Mexico and I go look at their videos and their worse than me.... :|
Face it the US created Advance Play for Smash and we are the best Smashers. :] Simple Fact.
jebril 4 years ago 2
yes, but the japanese tier list is more advanced then the US one. don't say ken raped japan so US>Japan. ken rapes everyone. ken said if it was japan vs US in general, japan would win hands down
crimson35124 3 years ago
jebril or whomever u r. You clearly don't know what your talking about. US may have more pro smashers in all, but Jaoan staryed pro smash bach when the game first came out. US followed after maybe ayear or two. Plus US still gets wiped up by randoms who barely play seriouly, like bombsoldier. US is good, but I still think it's an exagerration to say were 'the best' and end the sentence wuth a period.
OmegaFujin 3 years ago
US is "the best" at melee.
M2K would rape japan harder than ken did.
JejuneJesuit 3 years ago
we are "the best". if we did a crew match between USA and the best of the rest of the world, we would win with at least 3 people left over. i wouldnt be surprised if m2k took out 3-4 people himself and we ended up only using 3 people to beat them all.
Sveet 3 years ago
Lol what afuckin' noob! Do you know who are Armada, Amsah, Adam or Zgetto?
AshuRawRun 2 years ago 2
Do you know who are M2K, Mang0, Zhu, Hungrybox, Darkrain, Scar, Jman or Drephen?
Sveet 2 years ago 2
Yeah and I also know the results of genesis and how Armada can rape M2K or Mango or any American player, so I think Zgetto, or Amsah who are playing sheik or fox in Pal can beat the top USA in NTSC or Pal, wait and see what will happen at pound 4.
AshuRawRun 2 years ago
Don't be surprised when it doesn't look like genesis results.
Sveet 2 years ago
he said that 3-4 years ago. as of now, japan would be demolished by US, as would any country. i watched a european crew match, france/italy vs UK and as i watch it i see like 2 decent players in the whole crew and everyone else looks like the local scrubs by me.
Sveet 3 years ago
Grats, you can beat Europeans at a game that is not taken seriously in Europe (regrettably though, I must admit, I LOVE this game). :P
Also, before you decide whether they suck or not, you should take the European DI into account... It's just ridiculous, and is much harder to combo and KO against than the US and Japanese versions.
Oh, and who's "we".
It's not like you are one of those that will be representing the US now, is it? :P
So yeah, unless you are a top pro, sit down and shut it. :D
someguycalledjizz 3 years ago
no johns @ you dont take it seriously.
no such thing as european di.
you use "we" when referring to your country. for instance we dont say "the USA did good at the olympics this year" we say "we did good at the olympics this year".
i am a mid level tournament player from the midwest. no, i probably wouldnt be in that crew match, but i could hold my own if i did.
Sveet 3 years ago
You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
xAfterDawnx 2 years ago
are these supposed to be up?
Gimpyfish62 5 years ago
No, no they are not, but i'm watching them anyway.
Thefinalkefka 5 years ago
Lol, I remember this one. After Chu's crazy first combo on Ken, everyone was yelling, "HOLY S***, CHU'S MAD" because he was three-stocked in the previous match.
hugoc26 5 years ago
nice ending -_-
blackjo007 5 years ago
That combo in the beginning is just plainly retarded...O_o
123Shine 5 years ago