Horthy Miklós beszéde és a díszszemle Komáromban 1938. nov. 6.

[dasuprmastr]

Horthy, egy igazi Gentleman volt, aki, az egyik legnagyobb hös, s a történelem csunya borsot tört az orrunk alá, mert ez a részleges revizioraakkor is sor kellett volna kerüljön, ha a 2.vh meg sem történik! még most sem késö, emberek ébredjetek fel! mostani határaink, nem szabad, hogy a jövö határai legyenek. nem, SOHA! és erre van esély, ki kell járnunk minden jogi utat, fel kell szolalnunk, mindig, akkor is ha nem kérdeznek! fel kell hivnunk a világ figyelmét, trianon büneire!!!

[slytopp]

Reméljük egyszer újra meg fognak valósúlni ezek a gyönyörű pillanatok!

[szartube]

megható látni azoknak az embereknek az örömét

[drmartenshd]

YOU ARE SICK MAN ! BLOODY FASCIST ! DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN !

[misopuca]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HUNGARY!!! Today you are 91 years old.

[eevil00]

@misopuca At first time I thought that I should reply to you something similarly rude thing just as you wrote. But I have to bear in mind that it is probably impossible even to grasp the deepness of 1100 years of history for a person who has been studied (or studying...) and living in a country what is barely not a 'teenager'. No offense, mate, but you have been misled. Trust me, Hungary is a 'bit' more than 91 years old.

[szolnok95]

ÚRISTEN:D Mennyi magyar honvédnek van Hitler bajsza :D Biztos mind GONOSZ volt! =) Logika........am szerintem ez ellentettje :D

[gabesz66]

Üdvözletem!

Az 1920-as "feldarabolás" után kialakult egy erős magyar nemzet tudat, amit a vörös csillag árnyéka sajnos szétzúzott 40 év alatt, és sajnos ezért tartunk itt ahol:( De eljön még a magyarok órája!

Szebb jövőt!

[slytopp]

unfortunately not well you know! Hitler really hated Horthy, because they are not attacked by the Polish in 39 and helped them escape and not deporting jude. Hitler promised Polish Territories (zakopane tatra etc.) for the tiso and that after the war recevies Hungarian territories (south Felvidék) whereas removes Horthy out of the way. it did in 1944, when invaded the Hungary.

And yes, the tiso Slovakia very fasistic! today slotakia? i dont no but slota very fasistic

[ThePribina]

@slytopp Hitler really hated Horthy"bla bla ...when two Hungarian army fought on east front so the fucking Hitler must be happy :-)

When in Italy killed Mussoliny only fascistic Hungary stayed on Hitler side!

When Hungary was vanquished by Red army the magyars fought also in Wienna with german nazis !

Hungary was Fascist from own volition! Slovakia not!

Slovak army (1939)liberated own land occupied by Poland since 1938! Tiso refused Zakopane "because its polish town there slovaks not live"

[ThePribina]

@slytopp Slota is fasistic ? :-)

Slota want land of Hungary for bigger Slovakia ?

Not the Orbán told "Hungarian border lies on Polish" ? The Hungary is neighbour with Hungary?

What was the fascistic "Day of Honor" oficially permited in Budapest?! Its impossible inEuropa 21th century that neonazis celebrate the NAZI army of Hungary and Germany from 1944!

"Slota is very fasistic"when would destroy Budapest the fascist nest in Europa ? The next magyar war for Big Hungary will be your last !!!

[slytopp]

@ThePribina Slota is fasistic! he said this (after ten beer:P) for the camera. you should know, because you is "slota sympathizer".

and Orbán not said that, "We go In tank to Pozsony".

Very little know you about the Polish-Hungarian relation. Orbán speak about the one "spiritual border", that connects the two brodhers: the Hungarian and the Polish. But do you not understand.

[ThePribina]

@slytopp the Orbán or Vona is Fascist and not some spiritual !!!

What is Magyar Karpathian forum ?

Fascist is Jobbik, Magyar Gárda ,64counts,Karpátia...! They have milions supporting in Hungary! Yes Budapest is now fascist nest and extrem magyars would wery gladly send tanks to slovakia,romania ,vojvodina "for freedom karpathian magyars"!

Slota is unpopular in slovakia for his koruption and vulgarismus.But his words were often reactions on demonstracy and other attacks from Budapest!

[slytopp]

@ThePribina now come the Vona? so far, Orban is fasisztic,to you. Pathetic you!

Look after the Hungarian politics, and then happy to talk with you about this, because you speak stupid. I know the slovakian politic but you not hungarian . With The Romanian, Szerbien not arguent, because we have just now relationship with all neighboring Nation (except slovak!). And the Hungarian revision NOT fascism!

[ThePribina]

@slytopp Hungarian revision supporting ONLY fasizoid organizations and groups !

Revisionismus was also reason for WW2 and now HU extremists repeat the claims!

[slytopp]

@ThePribina it is not so. read up

[hundubliner]

@ThePribina just have a look on trianon threaty and u will understand why we cannot give it up. We dont want a new war, this is a wrong idea from the thieves, who know what they did. We want only justice for Hungary, but our politicans are very impotent, so u should calm down, asshole.

[ThePribina]

@hundubliner Trianon "treaty" is only demagogy !

Hungary was multinational and magyars were here minority (18th cent. only 29%).

In 19th century under idea "big magyar nation" was did policy of violent magyarization= from other nations slovaks serbs rutherians romanians croatians slovenians were "formed" new magyars !

Find Beksics Gusztáv Magyarosodás és Magyrositás 1883 , or what was Femke in felvidék , magyarization slovak orphans in magyar famylies, deleting all slovak skools etc...

[eevil00]

@ThePribina You refer to an 18th centurian rate of the Hungarian population of 29%, which I cannot debate as I am not qualified in 200 years old (and 100%ly accurate, of course) documents of censuses. Apologies. But if we would travel back another 200 years then we would find that the population has been almost elliminated by the Osman Empire. (At that time Hungary defended Europe with little help.You're welcome) And other wars have decreased our numbers. If the 29% is true then it is no wonder

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 yes I refer 18th century , in 1790 did the Habsburgs first census in Austria .

Same later in 1905 the Balogh Pál wrote about old hungarian kingdome: "the magyars were soldiers and rulers ,but the land cultivated aboriginal slavs which were here in majority ;how peoples"

[eevil00]

@ThePribina Funny. Romanians say that THEY were here before us. Slovakians say that THEY were here from the beginning. So many nations in the same time... Maybe we (all of the 10 million Hungarians) should go back to Central-East Asia, right?

[jozefporta]

@eevil00 Nem 10 millióan vagyunk a Kárpát-medencében barátom, ezt ne felejtsd el. ThePribina nem egy személy, hanem egy szervezet. Évek óta ugyanazt a mocskot nyomja szakadatlanul, mint egy elakadt lemezjátszó. Nem érdekli semmi. Százszor megcáfoltam már egy csomó hazug állítását, illetve rámutattam az okokra bizonyos valós sérelmekkel kapcsolatban. Egyszerűen nem érdekli, leszarja. Szakadatlanul folytatja az uszítókampányt, nyilván ez a feladata.

[eevil00]

@jozefporta Ezt nem tudtam. Kösz a felvilágosítást. Igazából az a végtelenül naív elképzelésem hajtott, hogy az észérvekkel való kommunikáció során belátásra lesz lehetőségem a hátteri főbb mozgató elképzelésekre, illetve rációra. Azonban, ha úgy áll, ahogy mondod, akkor felesleges ilyesmit keresnem és nem kerülök közelebb a megértésükhöz. Marad tehát az eredeti elgondolásom: ezek megint csak fabrikált "tények" a tetteik utólagos igazolására. A számokkal meg mindig is bajban voltam. :-)

[jozefporta]

@eevil00 Oh, közben válaszoltál :). Mindenesetre nem mondom, hogy nem lehet "a szlovákokkal" beszélni, de ezzel (vagy ezekkel) konkrétan nem. Ha valakit meg akarunk itt ismerni a YT-on első lépésként csak pillantsunk a feliratkozásira és a barátaira. Ezek TheP-nél: antipannonia, attilamongolgárda, kotleba (ő egyébként egy tót fasiszta önjelölt népvezér nevét viselte büszkén - de már letiltották a Tube-ról). Szóval esetében nincsenek és nem is lehetnek észérvek, ahogy mondtad.

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 you must only respect the real history and right other nations on living here! Old magyars really stole and occupied land other nations!

Idea of big hungarian kingdome is nationalistic and ill !

Not austrians ,not turks cry here on youtube for old empires!

What you think about return of Osman or Habsburg emire to panonia ?

[eevil00]

@ThePribina "Old magyars really stole and occupied land other nations!". It's only your point of view and can be debated. But I won't.

You mention theft. What's your opinion about the land of those Hungarians who have been 'relocated' to Slovakia, though they and their ancestors lived there without moving anywhere? Isn't it theft? I don't say that others do ("we want back everything" and such stupid). I say that you have nothing to do on lands where Hungarians live. AND vica versa of course!

[jozefporta]

@eevil00 A magyarság lélekszáma valóban a török háborúk/uralom, majd az azt közvetlenül követő "Szent (...)" Liga csapatainak öldöklése és fosztogatása miatt apadt. Erre jött a Rákóczi-szabadságharc pusztítása (illetőleg az ezzel együttjáró rácdúlások). Ugyanakkor a számarányunk nem ezért, hanem az ezt követő betelepítések miatt esett drasztikusan vissza.

[jozefporta]

@eevil00 A kis mocsok tót, akivel vitázol a "népszámlálási" (azért írom idézőjelbe, mert 1784 előtt csak összeírások (katonai ill. adó céllal)) adatokkal (is) manipulál. Amikor a magyarság alacsony arányát akarja bizonygatni, folyton a Szlavóniával és Horvátországgal együtt értendő adatokat írja. Majd, amikor a "magyarization" eredményéről ír, akkor az ezek nélküli Magyarország adatait adja meg. Így kapásból 8-10%-kal magasabb arányt kap, máris lökheti a szart a brutális magyarosításról.

[eevil00]

@ThePribina Now this is demagogy. Fascism and Patriotism are quite different. You would like to see revisionism as a fascist way because that way you can declare it as a threat to your country and nation. No wonder... If you would agree that it is patriotic then you should agree that Slovakia have no right to those people and their lands who are still Hungarian. Just for the side note: I am not a fascist. More like a humanist. Trying to care with my fellow-Hungarians. Now by confuting you. ;-)

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 when the "revisionists" denied right other nations on live in carpath basin ; even nobody have culture ,language , history ,land ,home....etc. I think its real fascizm !

You are humanist for magyars everywhere , but you are not humanistic for HUslovaks which were asimilated on 95% when theyr count declined from more than 400 000 on todays 16000 !

Tell me why we have now save the SKmagyars???

[eevil00]

@ThePribina

"when the "revisionists" denied right other nations on live in carpath basin" - I don't "deny". Thought it was clear... Mate, you are terribly wrong. Don't generalize my point of view with others. Like ther rest, I have nothing against Slovakians.

"400 000 on todays 16000" - again these numbers out of the blue... Please appoint your source. I will check it.

"Tell me why we have now save the SKmagyars??? " - what is this if not fascism? Do you have any sense of justice at all?

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 my source is OK ! In Hungary stayed 130 000 slovaks and 270 000 "magyars" speaking by slovak!!! In europa not exist more chauvinistic state how Horthy´s hungarian kingdome!

HU Prof. Deák estimated the real nunmber of HUslovaks on 480 000 ! "Tell me why we have now save the SKmagyars??? " - what is this if not fascism...." - NOT ! But in picture of your nationalism its maybe fair! You want save every magyar in europa(ofc for teritorial claims) but you are deleted all HUminorities!

[eevil00]

@ThePribina "my source is OK ! " - Still I want to check :-) Pls provide name of author, title, date, etc. (nice try anyway)

"HU Prof. Deák" - again, more precisely pls... (author, title, date...)

"NOT ! But in picture of your nationalism its maybe fair!" - So you say that it is fair to be a fascist? Sorry, but I don't get it...

"ofc for teritorial claims" - Wrong. I do not care about territories of countries. It is only your narrow-minded paranoia. I care about people only. You should too.

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 ofc. my data are oficial hungarian after Trianon. The around 270 000magyars cant be ethnic magyars when have mother language slovak.You also speak by slovak and you are magyar?

Teritorial claims is any paranoia , we hear this since 1990 when fall socialistic block!

When you want care about magyars ,tell me why HUslovaks never had politic laws and never were in HUparlament?

Why in HU not exist minority schools ,only bilingual? Why the "bad slovaks this all gave for magyar minority?

[eevil00]

@ThePribina "You also speak by slovak and you are magyar?" - er... apologies, but I can't speak Slovak (OK, that is not fully true, because I can say 'hi'. But that is all :-D) But maybe I misunderstood you....

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 "So you say that it is fair to be a fascist? Sorry, but I don't get it..." you have any right say "fascist" because you asimilated-magyarized HUslovaks on 95% !

You dont see the right on reciprocity???

Ofc. we are not so chauvinistic and SKmagyars have full european standard which the HUslovaks never known!

[eevil00]

@ThePribina "because you asimilated-magyarized HUslovaks on 95%" - We are running in circles. I say if my father was a jerk with your father, you and me don't have to be jerks. You say I am wrong and it is how it should be. But in your way peace cannot be achieved. Period.

"You dont see the right on reciprocity???" - No, I don't. See above.

"and SKmagyars have full european standard which the HUslovaks never known" - Allow me two words only: Beneš decrees... In Hungary never existed such.

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 You not must by wrong , but you cant negate own mistakes.

And what the Beneš decrets?

When Horthy dont started the war ,occupacy and war crimes in slovakia (but also in zakarpatie,serbia ,romania) dont must by Beneš decrets.

Even the magyars were solved not so hard how german colaborants. The changing of HU/SKcitizens not was same how expatriation or pogroms of germans in all europa :-)

In Hungary not were the decrets... but was national genocide nonmagyar nations and fascizm

[eevil00]

@ThePribina Apologies, but your English is failing me... I don't think I understand what you mean..

Horthy again... As I see you are still writing about the past. I am writing about the present. The decrees are still not repelled... How do you explain this?

[ThePribina]

@eevil00 what you dont understand ? You would deleted slovaks from europa map !

Every action make reaction!

You write about present but mentally you are in last century!

How you explain that magyars not repelled the attacks on slovakia,zakarpatie,serbia,rom­ania ? Firstly you must "doing order in own house" !!!

[eevil00]

@ThePribina "what you dont understand ?" - Your English is what I do not understand...

"but mentally you are in last century" - I am not the one who trying to justify his/her ideology and right with UNPROVED datas of censuses from the 19th or the 20th century. It is you actually...

"magyars not repelled the attacks..." - We have been punished because of that already. Who punished Czechslovakia because of the deportations and inhumanity caused by the Benes decrees?

[eevil00]

@ThePribina You know, I've started this conversation because really I wanted to understand your point of view and not because I wanted to provoke you. I think I get it now. You are thinking in statistics which is cruel. Another infamous cruel man said:

"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."

As I see our conversation failed, because you don't understand that answering cruelity with cruelity is a downward spiral.

I wish you the best.

[HUNDuffman]

@ThePribina Yes, slota is a stupid alcoholist nazi fuck. A politician cant say things like "Those retarded Hungarians keep saying they are descendants of Huns and carry on about their Turul, while just being mongols with ugly horses speaking an inhuman language, even according to a monk's inscription from the 12th century" because he was such a retard that my wireless network got blocked xD

[ThePribina]

@HUNDuffman yes Slota is idiot ,but !

Magyars realy have nothing with Hun barbars,its only constrution for Arpád right on stolen land (todays Hungary)

And the words about "ugly asiatic magyars whichlive in tents" write the german Bishop Oto from Frizin in year1148 !

Find documents: Gombos,Cathalogus fontium historiae Hungaricae III sides 1767-1768. Pertz, Monumenta Germaniae historica SS.XX side 347.

[ThePribina]

@HUNDuffman "@HUNDuffman yes Slota is idiot ,but !

Magyars realy have nothing with Hun barbars,its only constrution for Arpád right on stolen land (todays Hungary)

And the words about "ugly asiatic magyars whichlive in tents" write the german Bishop Oto from Frizin in year1148 !

Find documents: Gombos,Cathalogus fontium historiae Hungaricae III sides 1767-1768. Pertz, Monumenta Germaniae historica SS.XX side 347.

[ThePribina]

Horthy the Hitler friend !

[slytopp]

@ThePribina tiso is hitler Friend! NOT Horthy, you pathetic bregyo!

[ThePribina]

@slytopp Hungary got from Hitler south Slovakia and part of Romania.

Hungary was to last minute of war on Hitlers side .Asslicker Horthy first from all in 1933 send to Hitler congrate with his Cancelar place, in 1936 nogotiated with Hitler about destroyng Czechoslovakia etc...

Tiso did "safe agreement" with germany oposit prepare attack from Hungary and Poland ! Hitler asked slovak soldiers for his war on east.

[slytopp]

@ThePribina The predecessor of today's Slovakia, the fasiscitc tiso slovakia and hitler attacked in Poland. hitler hated it Horthy and only has allowed the legitimate Hungarian revision, because knew that war will be in the Carpathian Basin, which makes delayed start the Barbarossa operation. 

[ThePribina]

@slytopp Not ! The Horthy did plans on war ! Fascist Hitler Mussoliny Horthy had common vision , the Big empires !!!

Hitler many times told about big friend Hungary!

Horthys son was catched by germans in 1944 because they had suspicion from Horthys colaboration with USSR ! (here is the hatred :-)

Polish army attacked on slovakia in 1938

Poland got from Hitler north slovakia 1.10.1938 and 1.12.1938 (same how Hungary got from Hitler south Slovakia). Slovaks were fascistic ??? :o)

[seggmegfasz]

ÉLJEN A HAZA!

[slytopp]

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[githaj1]

@slytopp igen, aztán meg kovetkezo évek is felemeloek voltak☻

[githaj1]

@slytopp igen? és kovetkezo felemelo évek?☻

[slytopp]

@githaj1 azokba az időkbe sajnos neki már sok beleszólása nem volt!