@Xissrfo techincally they said they canceled them but went ahead with the missions the government says they have no money for it or budget cuts but they are always sending droms to space so im sure they have money for a trip to the moon
@TheKSFHonoR Wrong, wrong and wrong. Manned flights are many times more expensive than probes. Apollo 17 was the last mission to the moon. Why do you people insist on believing in fake conspiracies? Mind you, I guess it keeps you from figuring out the true conspiracies that are controlling your lives. So congratulations, you are keeping the people with the power and control very happy with your ill informed beliefs.
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers" (use search words "SAM ZURICK" & "BLOG"). THANKS!!
You would think that such an important mission such as this was purported to have been made they would have had the best photographic film and equipment
hell my old super 8mm camera made better movies than these are, why are thes videos and photos ALWAYS crappy ?
On January 4, 1970, NASA announced the cancellation of Apollo 20 so that its Saturn V could be used to launch the Skylab space station. September 2, 1970, NASA announced it was cancelling the H4 and J4 missions, due to more budget cuts. Skylab was also pushed out to 1973, and the final landing schedule became:
Apollo 15 (J1) Hadley Rille, July 1971
Apollo 16 (J2) Descartes Highlands, April 1972
Apollo 17 (J3) Taurus Littrow Valley December 1972
On January 4, 1970, NASA announced the cancellation of Apollo 20 so that its Saturn V could be used to launch the Skylab space station as a "dry workshop.
September 2, 1970, NASA announced it was cancelling the H4 and J4 missions, due to more budget cuts. Skylab was also pushed out to 1973, and the final landing schedule became:
Apollo 15 (J1) Hadley Rille, July 1971
Apollo 16 (J2) Descartes Highlands, April 1972
Apollo 17 (J3) Taurus-Littrow valley, December 1972
On January 4, 1970, NASA announced the cancellation of Apollo 20 so that its Saturn V could be used to launch the Skylab space station as a "dry workshop.
September 2, 1970, NASA announced it was cancelling the H4 and J4 missions, due to more budget cuts. Skylab was also pushed out to 1973, and the final landing schedule became:
Apollo 15 (J1) Hadley Rille, July 1971
Apollo 16 (J2) Descartes Highlands, April 1972
Apollo 17 (J3) Taurus-Littrow valley, December 1972
Im not saying any of this is T or F, but the fact is they have massive teams of people working to keep us under control and filter the information we receive, this can be said about most govs/leaders. Now from time to time the information they dont want us to see may leak, but its hard to tell sometimes what is true and what is not.1,583,923 reported sighting of UFOs a year some may be true. Before you reply, why are you looking at this unless you believe you are not being told the whole truth?
The only reason why the gov't will not say there is life out there is because all religion will fail and people will lose hope. hence chaos will be all over!
@1Deep505 Exactly... hence, means Religion was created by the Government... well maybe not the Government... but the higher ups A.K.A ( Illuminati/ Royal Family ) If Religion is true, the only Religion i lean to is Buddhism, doesnt really speak of how we got here.. it leans more to connecting with your soul and respecting other living and nature beings. And reincarnation seems to be more logical than Heaven or Hell. Just saying.
@1Deep505 are you fucking stupid the majority of america are atheist its not the fucking 1950s any more.If they really are covering it up its not because of that.Any religon could easily interrupt alien life as demons or creatures from hell.If not then the believe works with the religion just fine.
@1Deep505 Religion fails always. When it is publicly announced that there is extraterrestrial life then the religious bags will just make up stories so it will fit their religion. And people will just blindly believe it as they always did.
@GTASA911 yeah, you seem extremely against religion. i think you should look into spiritually developed religious people as opposed to the ridiculous ones corporate media focus on. Most religions/cultures have always believed that we came from space, and the point of religion was not to take away from you but to guide you to be stronger and more compassionate. Powerful people managed to manipulate that to enslave the people.
Also aliens exist. Think about it... There are millions of galaxies with billions of stars that have trillions of planets orbiting the distance that's needed to keep it temp consistent...my numbers are lower than the expect now but you should get the ideal.
ANYONE who believes what the government tells you is a COMPLETE idiot. The governments around the world have their own agenda, (in which only a few select know). I do believe that there is life elsewhere other than the planet Earth. I also believe that other life-forms (whatever they may be) have visited the Earth, for a very long time now. Who are they? I don't know. Where do they come from? Who knows. There's more evidence that we're NOT alone, than there is that we are alone. Open your minds.
One more thing. I've dabbled into plenty of so-called conspiracy theories and I'd say I'm a pretty open minded person, but BannedUfos...ur a nut. Hahaha! But the world needs people like you. Where else would us writers get our inspirations? NASA!? Screw that!
And to help give a better perspective on why we have never gone back to the moon, the government claims that it was because of budget cuts. (This was during Nixon's term) Then NASA began work on the spacestations and they never turned back. That's what the government says anyway. Who the hell really knows anyway right?
I don't know if extraterrestrial life exists or not, but one phrase has never let me down in life. You don't trully know what is until it is proven. Until then, anything is possible.
Come on people, this is some fake bullshit - just a viral video for the upcoming "Apollo 18" film. Wake the fuck up! There were no Apollo 18, 19, and 20 missions.
@enunna Apollo 18 is clearly fake. However, ex air force officers (my dad included) swear the US government has alien life and alien technology. I am not really sure to be honest and have other things to worry about, but if you believe that we know every space mission our government has done I would have to call you stupid. Remember the USAF does more in space then NASA does and the government is notorious for hiding information from the public.
@TheCasanovvaa not really nice to call me stupid. I'm just talking about this video. I've said nothing about my beliefs regarding alien life, the gov, or anything else for that matter.
@TheCasanovvaa not really nice to call me stupid. I'm just talking about this video. I've said nothing about my beliefs regarding alien life, the gov, or anything else for that matter.
@enunna I did not call you stupid. I said "if you believe that we know every space mission our government has done I would have to call you stupid". So it is your choice if you are stupid or not.
14 not 7. To tell you the truth i think maybe something really did happen, if something didnt wed be on the moon right now its either a Nazi space craft Alien space craft or a Soviet.
The only reason why we never get back to the moon, has nothing to do with aliens or consparicys. But I support some consparicys with alot of facts. And the reason we never did get back to the moon is money. We don't have money to travel back to the moon. Don't remeber exakt numbers what the cost was for the last space travels with humans. But I can say, it is alot. That why we send out alot of telescops instead, it's cheaper and we can still discover alot about space.
Dont you guys know? The moon IS a spaceship. Explain to me how we are the only planet known to man that has a satellite 1/4 the size of the planet it rotates, or why the moon rang like a bell for 2 hours when the command module crashed onto the moon on one of the apollo missions or even why the moon is essentially built inside out and all the craters only go a certain distance deep and never more. FUCKING ALIENS I TELL YOU!
@Scrappy1138 other planets have moons, i dont really get what size has to do with it. but i maybe wrong but i could be right. and to solve the depth of the craters can be solved by the size and speed of the object that hit the moon. i just dont think. i need more than two things that can be solved with my common sense to convence me on this one
@JILoFalconTV Other planets moons aren't the perfect size and distance to block out the sun and not every meteor that hits the moon go the same speed. Even if they did, that dosn't explain the depth issue. Bigger meteors, bigger, deeper holes.
fake THIS IS ALL FAKE BULLSHIT THE REASON WHY WE NEVR WENT BACK TO THE MOON IS CLASSIFIED OR WE JUST WANTED TO GO THEIR ONCE OF NASA DECIDED FOR NO REASON TO CALL OFF THE MOON SPACE RACE AND DISCOVER OTHER PLANETS BY THE WAY ASSHOLE THERE IS NO APOLLO 20 IN FACT THERE WAS ONLY 12 MISSIONS ALTOUTHGER SO WHO WOULD BELIVE THIS BULLSHIT
@triggerhappyhirano They dont discover planets by going to the moon (or into space in general) dumbass, they can do that by staying on the planet, lmao.
Yeah it's a fake. Look at the HUD camera hash marks that are crisp & clear, then after the flash of light the camera's all distorted. You can't make out the HUD. I believe in Extra Terrestrials, but this is a hoax, big time. HUD is wrong, which doesn't change when you zoom in. The camera went from being steady to all jittery for no reason. Term Billions was not a word used much in human vocabulary during that era. Same goes with Mylar. They just said balloons. best they could do in the 60's.
@Dayna092 Also, if you carefully examine the trajectory, speed and location of the LM in relation to the position of the artifact and compare it to the closeup footage, you will notice that the module has all of a sudden changed course and is now orbiting in a completely different path... all within a timespan of a second.
You need to overlay a NASA image of the area with the wide-angle flyover to get a good idea as to the relative position of the artifact to see the glaring discrepancy :D
......From the beginning to the flashing of white lights was real moon footage, and then from the view of the so-called spacecraft was faked! I can clearly see the differences before & after the white light, the spacecraft is definitely a created model. You can feel this is a model spacecraft, it's a set-up, the way the camera swings about etc, the white light scene, was used as a break, to switch from real moon footage to model moon surface & craft! Don't be fooled!
@silversurferss7 You are just an idiot, White light scene? that my friend is called the sun... Also the difference is one is brighter because the sun surfaced. Think before you talk
@chrisgilofficial.....That’s funny, because before the "flash of your so-called sunlight" the moon seems brighter! After the flash of light, it gets darker! Should be the other way around! You should SEE before you talk ....LOL. Its model set-up....live with it!
That was 40-ish years ago? We now live in 2011 and the technology has advanced. Why not to return there with folks equipped with them ultra HD cams? That would be a jaw-dropping footage, far away from this blurry, pixelated TV feed.
"I notice that despite supposedly damning evidence, that neither of those two have been "in danger", or Jarrah White. How come?"
They don't have science careers that can be ruined. Also, they weren't famous until they'd already made their works public. Doing away with them would by like swatting the moth and breaking the bulb.
Mainstream bookstores would never carry a book by a scientist saying the moon missions were faked.
I haven't been in the states since 95 but I never saw one of Noam Chomsky's political books in any bookstore up until then. Here in Europe I see his political books in every bookstore. Anti-establishment pundits and scientists can't publish their works in the mainstream in the US, at least they couldn't when I was there.
@Cosmored Right. So NASA hit squad are obviously not that bothered about the "mountain of evidence" produced by them and Bart Sibrel. These 3 make up virtually your entire case.
Your logic is ludicrous. None of my peers believe Apollo was hoaxed - none of them. I have never met anybody of any scientific background who believes the utter hogwash that you and other gullible HBs get taken in by.
@Cosmored My credibility is fine. Only morons believe China faked their space walk in a water tank.Good try at dismissing my statement by putting your strawman on it.
Nice strawman on Apollo 1 too. YOU say they were "troofers", YOU say they were murdered. No evidence for either. Why didn't NASA silence all the "troofers" putting out all the hoax material before it got going?
HBs blowing shit around the internet for years, not a coherent story amongst them .....
@Cosmored You spamming idiot, like I care what you think about other people. Debating in good faith? You don't know the meaning of the word. I just noticed 4 comments aimed at me, all from you. I bet not one will be without a link.
I debated with you politely and happily on the physics forum and you spat it back in my face, one reason why I am now involved in this stupidity of yours.
You destroyed your credibility when you said the Chinese spacewalk was real. You also tried to obfuscate the evidence of Collins' jacket corner bouncing when they were supposed to be halfway to the moon.
I see you deleted my comments from this video of yours.
/watch?v=HyVJt857e7Q
Those comments were relevant to the topic. If an argument is wrong, it will fall by its own lack of merit. Censorship is only necessary when an argument isn't wrong. It's clear that you know as well as the rest of us that Apollo was faked.
@Cosmored I deleted one comment. I told you not to spam your pathetic spurs forum thread. If you have something to say, use your own words. None of the other comments have been deleted, relevant to the discussion and without spammed links in.
btw, you are not a "TRUTHER" you don't assess the information and make your mind up, you stick to your HB belief no matter what is presented to you!
@Cosmored Obfuscation requires that the person making the comment has conciously tried to hide something by commenting on it and causing confusion somehow. Do you even know what the word means?
He presented a film about motion on the Moon and you start spamming shit about Collins' jacket.
@Cosmored I delete shit about Chinese spacewalks duplicated 50 times!!!!! And references to the same page over and over. NOTHING you do has me cornered. Your opinion is born from ignorance.
You can pretend all you want but your saying the Chinese spacewalk was real destroyed your credibility. It's so clear that the Chinese spacewalk was faked that the best sophist in the world coundn't convince a ten-year-old that it was real.
@Cosmored Pretend what? Asshole. You spam that shit here there and everywhere.
A flag does not rotate like that in a viscous medium such as water - it is a physical impossibility. The objects are not bubbles they change shape and move in all different directions.
Your film maker talks about zero gravity like some kind of half witt.
Credibility to you is finding another asshole to agree with you!
@Cosmored No it cannot. It doesn't move like that in slow motion. It would wrap or show impedence. You are just a clueless jerk. The astronaut also changes "height" against the craft. Bouyancy in water is controlled by venting air. That fast a movement is not possible without flipper movement.
Its just laughable that your credibility test shows you as a gullible asshole.
@Cosmored You have got to be kidding. His arm is moving at normal speed. The footage has not been slowed down or sped up. Any flat fabric simply would not move like that in viscous liquid. I have no idea how anybody can look at that and think a flag would rotate like that so effortlessly in water - it simply would not be able to do that. Complete madness. You call anybody who disagrees with you "not credible". You are just clueless.
@Cosmored Metal tethers having buoyancy in water? Sheer madness. If something has any lateral energy to the orbital momentum, it will naturally be attracted by Earth's gravity. Even a tiny movement will start a directional change to the orbital movement that immediately takes it out of 100% free fall. This is why they have safety tethers. Movement along the path of orbital trajectory is fine. Movement against it needs a tether. Clueless video maker, and gullible you.
That is obvious buoyancy and no amount of rhetoric will convince any thinking otherwise. This is how debates with shills go; when cornered they deny the obvious until it blows over and then go on as if nothing had happened.
Do a YouTube search on "China Shenzhou 7 Space Walk Live!! Full Success!".
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
No one who sees the buoyant safety cables and sees your analysis of it is going to take anything you say seriously. All you can do now is try to bury the issue to reduce the number of people who see it. You're all washed up.
@Cosmored Please explain why tethers that would use materials designed not to break would be "buoyant"?
The cables are NOT designed to be over curved (the examples show the cable almost at 90 degrees!). They naturally move to their most tensile comfortable position. This movement in a weightless environment would be unrestricted. The natural tendency of the cable to straighten itself would not be impeded.
@Cosmored Attributing desparation to me to avoid the major point I made. The cable has a natural tendency to assume the naturally large circle it was made into when it was manufactured. When it is bent slightly out of shape, or assumes a tighter circle its natural tendency in unrestricted vacuum and free fall is to assume its natural shape. You know this is correct. I believe you will go to any lengths to avoid admitting error.
"The cable has a natural tendency to assume the naturally large circle it was made into when it was manufactured. When it is bent slightly out of shape, or assumes a tighter circle its natural tendency in unrestricted vacuum and free fall is to assume its natural shape."
And the direction it takes every time it does that is the same direction it would take if it were made of a lighter-than-water material in water? Like I said-you're all wahed up.
@Cosmored The direction it takes is always against the bend. Having an idiot like you assessing my performance is like the kindergarten kids lecturing the teacher.
You have no scientific background yet presume to lecture me and anybody else with your lunacy.
"The direction it takes is always against the...else with your lunacy."
Rhetoric doesn't make evidence go away. The buoyant safety cables are clear evidence that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank and your saying it wasn't totally destroys your credibility.
@Cosmored I would ask straight back the same question. Clearly absolutely nothing is impeding its motion. In a viscous liquid it woul be slower, a flat surface like that flag would have easily noticeable drag and would be impossible to move like that. A flat piece of fabric simply would not rotate with such ease and opened out.
I am absolutely staggered that anybody could look at that and say it was in water.
@Cosmored My stand on this is to view it impartially and see if there is anything inconsistent with orbital freefall. There is nothing. Every point made by you or your film maker is utter hogwash. You use logical fallacies and diversionary tactics to avoid answering points made. When you do answer a point, you gloss over it like a first grader.
The buoyant safety cables is such clear evidence of their being in a water tank that the most highly skilled sophist in the world couldn't convince a ten-year-old otherwise.
@Cosmored Insane. I don't believe any rational person can possibly be taken in by this. It absolutely means nothing to me to prove China did a spacewalk. If it was faked, no Western phycisist would have any problem saying so. I find debating with such rampant ignorance so tiresome.
Also, to be accused of sophistry and obfuscation by such a stupid asshole as you, is actually quite funny.
They'd laugh you out of the debating hall for this evasive tactic. I guess I'll have to debate this video of yours here as you just delete my comments when you're cornered at your own videos.
/watch?v=HyVJt857e7Q
You said that it would be impossible for the government to keep all the people in the know quiet. I posted this link as a rebuttal.
@Cosmored Debating hall? If I was in a debating hall with you, I would take you apart. You wouldn't have the fallback of repeat posts and comments. Here you go spamming someone else's channel.
Your rebuttal talks about the part manufacture, not even mentioned in my video. I have referenced people who HAD to have known about it. There would have been a substantial number of them. You fail to point out any reason why they would keep quiet apart from your duff opinion about it.
"You fail to point out any reason why they would keep quiet apart from your duff opinion about it."
I showed that the press and science journals would never report it. They would also be afraid to try to come forward. Things can happen to people who know too much if the government thinks they are going to try to go public.
/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
(do a YouTube search on "Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE)")
@Cosmored No, you expressed an opinion on it, and listed a wall of links that show other people's opinion on it. In essence, pretty much all you have to say is somebody else's opinion. Somebody usually as equally uninformed as yourself.
@Cosmored My god, you are insane aren't you? I just went to your channel. Another (at least) half dozen duplicate comments aimed at your spurs forum page. You have just basically ignored complete irrefutable debunking of your Apollo 11 speeded up crap, and the 150% sped up nonsense that I have completely laid to rest. You still go on about the Apollo 15 flag when even that has been debunked, JW flag moves for 4 seconds! You need to see a physchiatrist, something is wrong with you. Non-truther.
The only places you'll debate are places where you can delete my posts. You deleted several of them from your videos. Why don't you come over to this thread...
@Cosmored You are dishonest. The ones I deleted numbered 50 in total (yes everybody!) ALL DUPLICATE and all unrelated to the 10 or so videos on my channel. Some stupid china spacewalk was faked video.
You have not offered one single rebuttal comment on any of my videos. Did you notice that youtube is now automatically triggering most of your posts as spam now.
You don't debate, you just repeat post. I have seen what you do on your horrific spurs forum thread. You are seriously crazy.
I asked you once about the Chinese spacewalk as an objectivity test. I waited for an answer and, instead of answering, you deleted the post. That is when I started asking you on every one of your propaganda videos; I wanted everyone to see that you're owned.
Why don't you come over to this thread and debate?
@Cosmored You have a mental illness, making 50 duplicate posts is a fair indication of that. I gave you an answer, the spacewalk was not faked. The movement of the flag through what would be a viscous liquid is impossible. The idiot in that video talks about there being NO gravity.
Why would I go to a basketball forum to debate with somebody who has no capacity to take anything in? You don't debate, you just repost and spam identical content all around the internet.
@Cosmored Translation incorrect. I have seen the last few hundred pages of that forum, where you lied about the things we discussed. I debated with you in good faith at the physics forum and you insulted me. You cannot acknowledge that your apollo 11 footage allegations were baseless, you have not withdrawn them. I care not to debate with such a low level of intelligence, certainly not a basketball forum with such disgraceful insults flying about in that thread. My dust analysis - rebuttal???
I still don't know how to measure time on YouTube videos so there's not much I can do with that for now. Anyway, there's a ton of other evidence that Apollo was faked so that issue isn't about whether Apollo was faked. Why don't you come over to this thread...
@Cosmored There is no evidence that Apollo was faked. There is a ton of rubbish as found on your post. It refers to Apollo 11 and speeded up stuff, that you yourself are in no position to question, yet you freely post numerous duplicate posts contending that very thing. You made your mind up and have no ability to re-assess it or change it. Not a "troofer"!
It refers to Apollo 15 flag nonsense, also explained and debunked.
You only post that link to make more spam. Thoroughly dishonest.
As for the gravity on the way to the Moon, that is your ill-informed ignorant opinion. I have no idea where you got that from, but it is complete bunkum. You need to take a hobby with somethinmg you are at least good at.
I added comments about that on my video I uploaded watch?v=toaablIJC2Q
Do a YouTube search on "The Flag that Moved" or use this link.
/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0
The flag moves away from the astronaut as he approaches because of the air pushed forward. Then it moves back toward him to fill the void caused by his passing. This is entirely consistent with atmosphere. The nature of the movement is not consistent with camera blooming.
@Cosmored No, they were highly informed observations of Apollo 11 halfway to the Moon. You say the opposite to my assessment and assume that you are correct - because the opinion being expressed is yours!!. Please enlighten us as to your scientific background.
We read that there were "Highly informed observations" but that doesn't mean it's true. Here's a link to some info that shows how science journals are controlled.
@Cosmored You must have one of those little books with your set responses in them. You find some discrepancies with some branches of science, possibly, then use that as a prop to call into question all aspects of science that explain away your unfeasible hoax theory. You can't make up that sort of self supporting garbage. By your reckoning, I suppose that some of these scientists must support your hoax theory?
Oh....that's right, NO scientist does, and THAT is why you raise that issue!!
If a scientist were to try to come forward and say it was all a hoax, it would never come out in the press or science journals and his career would be ruined. He might even be in danger.
@Cosmored I never read it in the first place. You are full of shit.
If any scientist found evidence proving an Apollo hoax they would make a fortune from book sales/ interviews and films. Instead we get numbskulls like Bart Sibrel and David Percy who tell lies and sucker in poor fools like you. I notice that despite supposedly damning evidence, that neither of those two have been "in danger", or Jarrah White. How come?
...makes it pretty clear that lots of people with science degrees can be paid to lie, so your having a degree doesn't prove anything. Now tell us why the movement in the video "The Flag that moved" isn't proof that the footage was taken in atmophere.
This is fake
ReconRaptor 4 days ago
@ReconRaptor how can you tell? and why?
magnum224trishot 7 hours ago
F- A - K - E
klesshenn1 1 month ago
Russians got there first, Damn it!
valttu94 1 month ago
fake at 3:34..
b42l4t4k 1 month ago
Rockets were invented 1st, so its possible this is a man made rocket to send people to the moon but no spacesuit XD
skyekross 2 months ago
This is faked
thehairball35 2 months ago
I used to never believe in aliens, then I took an laser to the knee
marcopolo09190 2 months ago
@marcopolo09190 that wasnt funny
mrgoldenrod10 2 months ago
Of course this is faked. There was no Apollo 20 mission (18 and 19 were also cancelled). Check your history folks.
I can't believe people fall for this stuff.
Xissrfo 4 months ago
@Xissrfo lol you think Nasa missions are public knowledge... that's cute
ciagrim 3 months ago
@ciagrim And you believe there is a conspiracy. How quaint.
Xissrfo 3 months ago
@Xissrfo techincally they said they canceled them but went ahead with the missions the government says they have no money for it or budget cuts but they are always sending droms to space so im sure they have money for a trip to the moon
TheKSFHonoR 2 months ago
@TheKSFHonoR Wrong, wrong and wrong. Manned flights are many times more expensive than probes. Apollo 17 was the last mission to the moon. Why do you people insist on believing in fake conspiracies? Mind you, I guess it keeps you from figuring out the true conspiracies that are controlling your lives. So congratulations, you are keeping the people with the power and control very happy with your ill informed beliefs.
Xissrfo 2 months ago
@Xissrfo and wtf are you doing? wake someone up or.....STFU!
bklacc1 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers" (use search words "SAM ZURICK" & "BLOG"). THANKS!!
peopledick 4 months ago
You would think that such an important mission such as this was purported to have been made they would have had the best photographic film and equipment
hell my old super 8mm camera made better movies than these are, why are thes videos and photos ALWAYS crappy ?
parrot0051 4 months ago
and like government would let you fucking upload this video if it was real!
TheEmwin 4 months ago
On January 4, 1970, NASA announced the cancellation of Apollo 20 so that its Saturn V could be used to launch the Skylab space station. September 2, 1970, NASA announced it was cancelling the H4 and J4 missions, due to more budget cuts. Skylab was also pushed out to 1973, and the final landing schedule became:
Apollo 15 (J1) Hadley Rille, July 1971
Apollo 16 (J2) Descartes Highlands, April 1972
Apollo 17 (J3) Taurus Littrow Valley December 1972
Mbrewer1959 5 months ago
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On January 4, 1970, NASA announced the cancellation of Apollo 20 so that its Saturn V could be used to launch the Skylab space station as a "dry workshop.
September 2, 1970, NASA announced it was cancelling the H4 and J4 missions, due to more budget cuts. Skylab was also pushed out to 1973, and the final landing schedule became:
Apollo 15 (J1) Hadley Rille, July 1971
Apollo 16 (J2) Descartes Highlands, April 1972
Apollo 17 (J3) Taurus-Littrow valley, December 1972
Mbrewer1959 5 months ago
On January 4, 1970, NASA announced the cancellation of Apollo 20 so that its Saturn V could be used to launch the Skylab space station as a "dry workshop.
September 2, 1970, NASA announced it was cancelling the H4 and J4 missions, due to more budget cuts. Skylab was also pushed out to 1973, and the final landing schedule became:
Apollo 15 (J1) Hadley Rille, July 1971
Apollo 16 (J2) Descartes Highlands, April 1972
Apollo 17 (J3) Taurus-Littrow valley, December 1972
Mbrewer1959 5 months ago
If i render ir with my Commodore 64 i get better quality of the video than this...
nopochoclos 5 months ago
Im not saying any of this is T or F, but the fact is they have massive teams of people working to keep us under control and filter the information we receive, this can be said about most govs/leaders. Now from time to time the information they dont want us to see may leak, but its hard to tell sometimes what is true and what is not.1,583,923 reported sighting of UFOs a year some may be true. Before you reply, why are you looking at this unless you believe you are not being told the whole truth?
Menothus 5 months ago
I have a video of a glass dome as well as an alien structure. Feel free to take a look. Thanks and Peace
bigbrotherwatcha 5 months ago
hi its this one of those 3d movie do i need glass ? )
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The only reason why the gov't will not say there is life out there is because all religion will fail and people will lose hope. hence chaos will be all over!
1Deep505 6 months ago 13
@1Deep505 Exactly... hence, means Religion was created by the Government... well maybe not the Government... but the higher ups A.K.A ( Illuminati/ Royal Family ) If Religion is true, the only Religion i lean to is Buddhism, doesnt really speak of how we got here.. it leans more to connecting with your soul and respecting other living and nature beings. And reincarnation seems to be more logical than Heaven or Hell. Just saying.
Kikohtron 5 months ago
@1Deep505 WRONG!
TheSubzerogr 2 months ago
@1Deep505 are you fucking stupid the majority of america are atheist its not the fucking 1950s any more.If they really are covering it up its not because of that.Any religon could easily interrupt alien life as demons or creatures from hell.If not then the believe works with the religion just fine.
BatDude27 2 months ago
@BatDude27 and your response is another reason out of many why this sort of information is not released...
duminicad 2 months ago
@1Deep505 What religion has to do with life out there?
TiMe2NothinG 1 month ago
@1Deep505 aliens, are angels and demons....do more research sir.
bklacc1 1 month ago
@1Deep505 too true
ArtymusPrime 1 month ago
@1Deep505 Religion fails always. When it is publicly announced that there is extraterrestrial life then the religious bags will just make up stories so it will fit their religion. And people will just blindly believe it as they always did.
GTASA911 1 month ago
@GTASA911 yeah, you seem extremely against religion. i think you should look into spiritually developed religious people as opposed to the ridiculous ones corporate media focus on. Most religions/cultures have always believed that we came from space, and the point of religion was not to take away from you but to guide you to be stronger and more compassionate. Powerful people managed to manipulate that to enslave the people.
wygram 3 weeks ago
@1Deep505 alien life doesnt make my religion fail.
talkdonttalk 1 week ago
@1Deep505 there is chaos all over anyway.. their friggin goal is "order out of chaos"
MrWuldntulike2kno 1 day ago
Also aliens exist. Think about it... There are millions of galaxies with billions of stars that have trillions of planets orbiting the distance that's needed to keep it temp consistent...my numbers are lower than the expect now but you should get the ideal.
deland93 6 months ago
They hide a stealth bomber for half a decade!!!! They can control what we know very easily.
deland93 6 months ago
ANYONE who believes what the government tells you is a COMPLETE idiot. The governments around the world have their own agenda, (in which only a few select know). I do believe that there is life elsewhere other than the planet Earth. I also believe that other life-forms (whatever they may be) have visited the Earth, for a very long time now. Who are they? I don't know. Where do they come from? Who knows. There's more evidence that we're NOT alone, than there is that we are alone. Open your minds.
theatlantean3 6 months ago
One more thing. I've dabbled into plenty of so-called conspiracy theories and I'd say I'm a pretty open minded person, but BannedUfos...ur a nut. Hahaha! But the world needs people like you. Where else would us writers get our inspirations? NASA!? Screw that!
stupido1100 6 months ago
And to help give a better perspective on why we have never gone back to the moon, the government claims that it was because of budget cuts. (This was during Nixon's term) Then NASA began work on the spacestations and they never turned back. That's what the government says anyway. Who the hell really knows anyway right?
stupido1100 6 months ago
I don't know if extraterrestrial life exists or not, but one phrase has never let me down in life. You don't trully know what is until it is proven. Until then, anything is possible.
stupido1100 6 months ago
Come on people, this is some fake bullshit - just a viral video for the upcoming "Apollo 18" film. Wake the fuck up! There were no Apollo 18, 19, and 20 missions.
enunna 6 months ago
@enunna Apollo 18 is clearly fake. However, ex air force officers (my dad included) swear the US government has alien life and alien technology. I am not really sure to be honest and have other things to worry about, but if you believe that we know every space mission our government has done I would have to call you stupid. Remember the USAF does more in space then NASA does and the government is notorious for hiding information from the public.
TheCasanovvaa 6 months ago
@TheCasanovvaa not really nice to call me stupid. I'm just talking about this video. I've said nothing about my beliefs regarding alien life, the gov, or anything else for that matter.
enunna 6 months ago
@TheCasanovvaa not really nice to call me stupid. I'm just talking about this video. I've said nothing about my beliefs regarding alien life, the gov, or anything else for that matter.
enunna 6 months ago
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@enunna I did not call you stupid. I said "if you believe that we know every space mission our government has done I would have to call you stupid". So it is your choice if you are stupid or not.
TheCasanovvaa 6 months ago
@enunna This was posted in 2008. I don't think they even began writing "Apollo 18" yet.
Shisno2392 4 months ago
To the people who think this crap is real, you have made me lose my faith in humanity you bloody idiots.
RepublicOfVietnam 6 months ago
this kinda reminded me of when they found the spaceship in "alien" lol.
Joshclarke1991 6 months ago
14 not 7. To tell you the truth i think maybe something really did happen, if something didnt wed be on the moon right now its either a Nazi space craft Alien space craft or a Soviet.
SEALxGamerz 6 months ago
@SEALxGamerz
Nazi space craft?
LOLOLOLOL
irJakexD 6 months ago
no Apollo 20 and this is fake
earthvisitor3 6 months ago
I'm pretty sure Apollo 17 was the last one...but it looks like a jawa sand crawler.
Tjag321 6 months ago
It's a freaking rock that kinda looks like a ship. It's so not a ship people.
TallCaliGurl 6 months ago
@TallCaliGurl not saying its real bvut what rock do you know of has perfect right angles on it???
Soulremoved 6 months ago
I have a feeling that when we make contact they will attack us and there will be a massive war.
MANKIND68 6 months ago
Everyone keeps assuming its an Alien space craft, what if its a Soviet space craft ?
o_O
Tristan154UK 6 months ago
@Tristan154UK or Nazi space craft
souljaboyspongebob 6 months ago
@souljaboyspongebob Lol "Iron Sky" film, can't wait till it comes out.
Tristan154UK 6 months ago
Idk about the authenticity but I can explain the camera issues. Cameraman was drunk obvi, also looked at the sun with the camera.
Compton3clipsed 7 months ago
all i see is rocks??
thesimcontroller 7 months ago
its a nazis base:)
projectiled401987 7 months ago 4
@projectiled401987 a reptilian shapeshifting nazi base.. ;)
MrWuldntulike2kno 1 day ago
here we go again beeping with no messages being sent or recieved! Sounds like a guy spitting on his dick while masterbating
GANGSTADAM71392 7 months ago
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@JabberwockyzFilms yeah , lol !!
Taysiir0114 7 months ago
3:10 area we are the aliens now
13arton 7 months ago
FALSO! RIDICULARMENTE FALSO!
rodrigoggdf 7 months ago
The only reason why we never get back to the moon, has nothing to do with aliens or consparicys. But I support some consparicys with alot of facts. And the reason we never did get back to the moon is money. We don't have money to travel back to the moon. Don't remeber exakt numbers what the cost was for the last space travels with humans. But I can say, it is alot. That why we send out alot of telescops instead, it's cheaper and we can still discover alot about space.
NiclasTimle89 7 months ago
@NiclasTimle89 It cost over 2 billon dollars a mission with gas prices soaring, steal at its highest, and all else...
heat3032 7 months ago
eeeee!!! FAKE!!! 3:00 after its a fake...dum ass
edu20por5 7 months ago
Dont you guys know? The moon IS a spaceship. Explain to me how we are the only planet known to man that has a satellite 1/4 the size of the planet it rotates, or why the moon rang like a bell for 2 hours when the command module crashed onto the moon on one of the apollo missions or even why the moon is essentially built inside out and all the craters only go a certain distance deep and never more. FUCKING ALIENS I TELL YOU!
Scrappy1138 8 months ago
@Scrappy1138 other planets have moons, i dont really get what size has to do with it. but i maybe wrong but i could be right. and to solve the depth of the craters can be solved by the size and speed of the object that hit the moon. i just dont think. i need more than two things that can be solved with my common sense to convence me on this one
JILoFalconTV 7 months ago
@JILoFalconTV Other planets moons aren't the perfect size and distance to block out the sun and not every meteor that hits the moon go the same speed. Even if they did, that dosn't explain the depth issue. Bigger meteors, bigger, deeper holes.
Scrappy1138 7 months ago
fake THIS IS ALL FAKE BULLSHIT THE REASON WHY WE NEVR WENT BACK TO THE MOON IS CLASSIFIED OR WE JUST WANTED TO GO THEIR ONCE OF NASA DECIDED FOR NO REASON TO CALL OFF THE MOON SPACE RACE AND DISCOVER OTHER PLANETS BY THE WAY ASSHOLE THERE IS NO APOLLO 20 IN FACT THERE WAS ONLY 12 MISSIONS ALTOUTHGER SO WHO WOULD BELIVE THIS BULLSHIT
triggerhappyhirano 8 months ago
@triggerhappyhirano They dont discover planets by going to the moon (or into space in general) dumbass, they can do that by staying on the planet, lmao.
HaplessCapital 6 months ago
it is fake because it would cost a fortune to get this video from Nasa and if it was real the uploader would charge us o youtube rentals
toystupidmusic 8 months ago
fake !!!
MrHeldderArbeit 8 months ago
on the dark side of the moon!!! hello what did they have million watt camera,s to take the pictures think about
2lostangels 9 months ago
Are "1.3 South 117.62 East" coordinates?
ParaglidingManiac 9 months ago
Yeah it's a fake. Look at the HUD camera hash marks that are crisp & clear, then after the flash of light the camera's all distorted. You can't make out the HUD. I believe in Extra Terrestrials, but this is a hoax, big time. HUD is wrong, which doesn't change when you zoom in. The camera went from being steady to all jittery for no reason. Term Billions was not a word used much in human vocabulary during that era. Same goes with Mylar. They just said balloons. best they could do in the 60's.
Dayna092 9 months ago
@Dayna092 Also, if you carefully examine the trajectory, speed and location of the LM in relation to the position of the artifact and compare it to the closeup footage, you will notice that the module has all of a sudden changed course and is now orbiting in a completely different path... all within a timespan of a second.
You need to overlay a NASA image of the area with the wide-angle flyover to get a good idea as to the relative position of the artifact to see the glaring discrepancy :D
radionactive 7 months ago
It's well made but it should have been a Space Marine helmet cam feed.
n49o7 10 months ago
@LongHuntre funding, do you know how much it cost?
chrisgilofficial 10 months ago
Someone needs to get outside and clean them windows. Knowing NASA scientists tho they probably left the bucket and sponge on earth.
cakesofdeath 10 months ago
......From the beginning to the flashing of white lights was real moon footage, and then from the view of the so-called spacecraft was faked! I can clearly see the differences before & after the white light, the spacecraft is definitely a created model. You can feel this is a model spacecraft, it's a set-up, the way the camera swings about etc, the white light scene, was used as a break, to switch from real moon footage to model moon surface & craft! Don't be fooled!
silversurferss7 11 months ago
@silversurferss7 You are just an idiot, White light scene? that my friend is called the sun... Also the difference is one is brighter because the sun surfaced. Think before you talk
chrisgilofficial 10 months ago
@chrisgilofficial.....That’s funny, because before the "flash of your so-called sunlight" the moon seems brighter! After the flash of light, it gets darker! Should be the other way around! You should SEE before you talk ....LOL. Its model set-up....live with it!
silversurferss7 10 months ago
"it must be here...billions of years" . . . idk somethiin about that doesnt seem right, i dont think he would really use the word billions
trinthakias 11 months ago
change of pants...
FEARcactus 11 months ago
@LongHuntre China is going to the moon in 2025.
marcopolo3001 11 months ago
Im too afraid to watch >__< Can some1 tell me what happene or at least tell me when the part comes up ?
getemki1 11 months ago
nicw way to promote a film, start a good few years ago?
perhaps when they started filming?
thebarnineffect 1 year ago
7 aliens dislike this video
Taysiir0114 1 year ago 16
it is waldo, haha nah j/k.. i think it's real tho
matthewgroen 1 year ago
That was 40-ish years ago? We now live in 2011 and the technology has advanced. Why not to return there with folks equipped with them ultra HD cams? That would be a jaw-dropping footage, far away from this blurry, pixelated TV feed.
gan33 1 year ago
@gan33 they didnt have HD back then
StudioS7ven 1 year ago
"I notice that despite supposedly damning evidence, that neither of those two have been "in danger", or Jarrah White. How come?"
They don't have science careers that can be ruined. Also, they weren't famous until they'd already made their works public. Doing away with them would by like swatting the moth and breaking the bulb.
Mainstream bookstores would never carry a book by a scientist saying the moon missions were faked.
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Cosmored 1 year ago
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I haven't been in the states since 95 but I never saw one of Noam Chomsky's political books in any bookstore up until then. Here in Europe I see his political books in every bookstore. Anti-establishment pundits and scientists can't publish their works in the mainstream in the US, at least they couldn't when I was there.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Right. So NASA hit squad are obviously not that bothered about the "mountain of evidence" produced by them and Bart Sibrel. These 3 make up virtually your entire case.
Your logic is ludicrous. None of my peers believe Apollo was hoaxed - none of them. I have never met anybody of any scientific background who believes the utter hogwash that you and other gullible HBs get taken in by.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"So NASA hit squad are obviously not that bothered about the "mountain of evidence" produced by them and Bart Sibrel."
Their job would be to silence truthers. Look what happened to these guys.
/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
"None of my peers believe Apollo was hoaxed"
After you said the Chinese spacewalk was real, nobody is going to take your word on anything. You have no credibility.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored My credibility is fine. Only morons believe China faked their space walk in a water tank.Good try at dismissing my statement by putting your strawman on it.
Nice strawman on Apollo 1 too. YOU say they were "troofers", YOU say they were murdered. No evidence for either. Why didn't NASA silence all the "troofers" putting out all the hoax material before it got going?
HBs blowing shit around the internet for years, not a coherent story amongst them .....
watch?v=HyVJt857e7Q
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"Only morons believe China faked their space walk in a water tank"
Nobody who sees the evidence that the Chinese faked their spacewalk is going to take you seriously now.
/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
theepochtimes (dot) com/n2/content/view/5809/
You are not debating in good faith.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored You spamming idiot, like I care what you think about other people. Debating in good faith? You don't know the meaning of the word. I just noticed 4 comments aimed at me, all from you. I bet not one will be without a link.
I debated with you politely and happily on the physics forum and you spat it back in my face, one reason why I am now involved in this stupidity of yours.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
You destroyed your credibility when you said the Chinese spacewalk was real. You also tried to obfuscate the evidence of Collins' jacket corner bouncing when they were supposed to be halfway to the moon.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4732099&postcount=1107
(check link for gaps)
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Betamax101
I see you deleted my comments from this video of yours.
/watch?v=HyVJt857e7Q
Those comments were relevant to the topic. If an argument is wrong, it will fall by its own lack of merit. Censorship is only necessary when an argument isn't wrong. It's clear that you know as well as the rest of us that Apollo was faked.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored I deleted one comment. I told you not to spam your pathetic spurs forum thread. If you have something to say, use your own words. None of the other comments have been deleted, relevant to the discussion and without spammed links in.
btw, you are not a "TRUTHER" you don't assess the information and make your mind up, you stick to your HB belief no matter what is presented to you!
You owe blisterhiker and me an apology.
watch?v=njdQ0Y1Yyo8 / watch?v=Z1HvJ0WXkuo 31 secs/15.5 secs
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"You owe blisterhiker and me an apology."
BlisterHiker also deleted my posts when he was cornered. Both of you are pathetic.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored He wasn't cornered you son of a bitch. You called him a liar, abd I just showed the footage you said he was lying about - you big asshole.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
He couldn't obfuscate the evidence of Collins' bouncing jacket corner so he deleted my posts and banned me the way shills do when they're cornered.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4732099&postcount=1107
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Obfuscation requires that the person making the comment has conciously tried to hide something by commenting on it and causing confusion somehow. Do you even know what the word means?
He presented a film about motion on the Moon and you start spamming shit about Collins' jacket.
Answered here CORRECTLY nearly 3 years ago
s1 zetaboards com/LooseChangeForums/topic/51606/22/
And here you are ignoring it, saying that somehow you know better and ignoring everything. Asshole!
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"He presented a film about motion on the Moon and you start spamming shit about Collins' jacket."
He tried to obfuscate it but, when he couldn't, he deleted all my posts and banned me the way a cornered shill would.
You said the Chinese spacewalk was real so your credibility is shot.
That link didn't work so tell me the post #.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored You still haven't explained how the Apollo 11 clip is not exactly as depicted by blisterhiker.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Cosmored I delete shit about Chinese spacewalks duplicated 50 times!!!!! And references to the same page over and over. NOTHING you do has me cornered. Your opinion is born from ignorance.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
You can pretend all you want but your saying the Chinese spacewalk was real destroyed your credibility. It's so clear that the Chinese spacewalk was faked that the best sophist in the world coundn't convince a ten-year-old that it was real.
/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
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Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Pretend what? Asshole. You spam that shit here there and everywhere.
A flag does not rotate like that in a viscous medium such as water - it is a physical impossibility. The objects are not bubbles they change shape and move in all different directions.
Your film maker talks about zero gravity like some kind of half witt.
Credibility to you is finding another asshole to agree with you!
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"A flag does not rotate like that in a viscous medium such as water"
It can be explained by sped-up film.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored No it cannot. It doesn't move like that in slow motion. It would wrap or show impedence. You are just a clueless jerk. The astronaut also changes "height" against the craft. Bouyancy in water is controlled by venting air. That fast a movement is not possible without flipper movement.
Its just laughable that your credibility test shows you as a gullible asshole.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
Look at the buoyant safety cables in this video.
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
At the 30 second time mark of this video the astronaut moves the flag from right to left.
/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM
It flutters the way it would in a medium.
Let's hear your analysis of the buoyant cables and the fulttering flag.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored You have got to be kidding. His arm is moving at normal speed. The footage has not been slowed down or sped up. Any flat fabric simply would not move like that in viscous liquid. I have no idea how anybody can look at that and think a flag would rotate like that so effortlessly in water - it simply would not be able to do that. Complete madness. You call anybody who disagrees with you "not credible". You are just clueless.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Cosmored Metal tethers having buoyancy in water? Sheer madness. If something has any lateral energy to the orbital momentum, it will naturally be attracted by Earth's gravity. Even a tiny movement will start a directional change to the orbital movement that immediately takes it out of 100% free fall. This is why they have safety tethers. Movement along the path of orbital trajectory is fine. Movement against it needs a tether. Clueless video maker, and gullible you.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"Metal tethers having buoyancy in water? Sheer madness."
Who says they are metal?
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Look at these time marks in the video- 0:50, 2:10, 3:00, 3:10, 6:08, 6:44, 6:53
That is obvious buoyancy and no amount of rhetoric will convince any thinking otherwise. This is how debates with shills go; when cornered they deny the obvious until it blows over and then go on as if nothing had happened.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored That link does not work asshole. /watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
It is not buoyancy, because they are not in water. You don't debate, you ignore replies and respam.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"link does not work "
The video is still there. I just checked.
Do a YouTube search on "China Shenzhou 7 Space Walk Live!! Full Success!".
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
No one who sees the buoyant safety cables and sees your analysis of it is going to take anything you say seriously. All you can do now is try to bury the issue to reduce the number of people who see it. You're all washed up.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Please explain why tethers that would use materials designed not to break would be "buoyant"?
The cables are NOT designed to be over curved (the examples show the cable almost at 90 degrees!). They naturally move to their most tensile comfortable position. This movement in a weightless environment would be unrestricted. The natural tendency of the cable to straighten itself would not be impeded.
It is not water you complete buffoon.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"Please explain why tethers that would use materials designed not to break would be "buoyant"?"
You seem to be getting desperate now. Are you saying it's impossible to manufacture unbreakable safety cables that are lighter than water?
All the movement is consistent with buoyancy.
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Look at these time marks in the video- 0:50, 2:10, 3:00, 3:10, 6:08, 6:44, 6:53
Your stand on this completely discredits you. You're all washed up.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Attributing desparation to me to avoid the major point I made. The cable has a natural tendency to assume the naturally large circle it was made into when it was manufactured. When it is bent slightly out of shape, or assumes a tighter circle its natural tendency in unrestricted vacuum and free fall is to assume its natural shape. You know this is correct. I believe you will go to any lengths to avoid admitting error.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"The cable has a natural tendency to assume the naturally large circle it was made into when it was manufactured. When it is bent slightly out of shape, or assumes a tighter circle its natural tendency in unrestricted vacuum and free fall is to assume its natural shape."
And the direction it takes every time it does that is the same direction it would take if it were made of a lighter-than-water material in water? Like I said-you're all wahed up.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored The direction it takes is always against the bend. Having an idiot like you assessing my performance is like the kindergarten kids lecturing the teacher.
You have no scientific background yet presume to lecture me and anybody else with your lunacy.
Betamax101 1 year ago
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@Betamax101
"The direction it takes is always against the...else with your lunacy."
Rhetoric doesn't make evidence go away. The buoyant safety cables are clear evidence that the Chinese spacewalk was faked in a water tank and your saying it wasn't totally destroys your credibility.
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Look at these time marks in the video- 0:50, 2:10, 3:00, 3:10, 6:08, 6:44, 6:53
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Betamax101
Now let's hear your analysis of the fluttering flag in this clip.
/watch?v=MvpPknmHGAM
(30 second mark)
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored I would ask straight back the same question. Clearly absolutely nothing is impeding its motion. In a viscous liquid it woul be slower, a flat surface like that flag would have easily noticeable drag and would be impossible to move like that. A flat piece of fabric simply would not rotate with such ease and opened out.
I am absolutely staggered that anybody could look at that and say it was in water.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Cosmored There is absolutely no way that is in water. You must be blind if you think that.
MMGNAustralia 1 year ago
@Cosmored My stand on this is to view it impartially and see if there is anything inconsistent with orbital freefall. There is nothing. Every point made by you or your film maker is utter hogwash. You use logical fallacies and diversionary tactics to avoid answering points made. When you do answer a point, you gloss over it like a first grader.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"My stand on this is to view it impartially and see if there is anything inconsistent with orbital freefall. There is nothing."
No one who actually watches the footage will agree with you.
/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Look at these time marks in the video- 0:50, 2:10, 3:00, 3:10, 6:08, 6:44, 6:53
The buoyant safety cables is such clear evidence of their being in a water tank that the most highly skilled sophist in the world couldn't convince a ten-year-old otherwise.
Cosmored 1 year ago
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Betamax101 1 year ago
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@Cosmored Insane. I don't believe any rational person can possibly be taken in by this. It absolutely means nothing to me to prove China did a spacewalk. If it was faked, no Western phycisist would have any problem saying so. I find debating with such rampant ignorance so tiresome.
Also, to be accused of sophistry and obfuscation by such a stupid asshole as you, is actually quite funny.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
They'd laugh you out of the debating hall for this evasive tactic. I guess I'll have to debate this video of yours here as you just delete my comments when you're cornered at your own videos.
/watch?v=HyVJt857e7Q
You said that it would be impossible for the government to keep all the people in the know quiet. I posted this link as a rebuttal.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4731597&postcount=1090
Let's hear your conter-rebuttal.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Debating hall? If I was in a debating hall with you, I would take you apart. You wouldn't have the fallback of repeat posts and comments. Here you go spamming someone else's channel.
Your rebuttal talks about the part manufacture, not even mentioned in my video. I have referenced people who HAD to have known about it. There would have been a substantial number of them. You fail to point out any reason why they would keep quiet apart from your duff opinion about it.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"You fail to point out any reason why they would keep quiet apart from your duff opinion about it."
I showed that the press and science journals would never report it. They would also be afraid to try to come forward. Things can happen to people who know too much if the government thinks they are going to try to go public.
/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
(do a YouTube search on "Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE)")
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored No, you expressed an opinion on it, and listed a wall of links that show other people's opinion on it. In essence, pretty much all you have to say is somebody else's opinion. Somebody usually as equally uninformed as yourself.
Betamax101 1 year ago
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Apollo was a hoax. They never went to the moon. Here's a link to some of the evidence.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored My god, you are insane aren't you? I just went to your channel. Another (at least) half dozen duplicate comments aimed at your spurs forum page. You have just basically ignored complete irrefutable debunking of your Apollo 11 speeded up crap, and the 150% sped up nonsense that I have completely laid to rest. You still go on about the Apollo 15 flag when even that has been debunked, JW flag moves for 4 seconds! You need to see a physchiatrist, something is wrong with you. Non-truther.
Betamax101 1 year ago
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@Betamax101
The only places you'll debate are places where you can delete my posts. You deleted several of them from your videos. Why don't you come over to this thread...
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
...where you can't delete my posts?
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored You are dishonest. The ones I deleted numbered 50 in total (yes everybody!) ALL DUPLICATE and all unrelated to the 10 or so videos on my channel. Some stupid china spacewalk was faked video.
You have not offered one single rebuttal comment on any of my videos. Did you notice that youtube is now automatically triggering most of your posts as spam now.
You don't debate, you just repeat post. I have seen what you do on your horrific spurs forum thread. You are seriously crazy.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
I asked you once about the Chinese spacewalk as an objectivity test. I waited for an answer and, instead of answering, you deleted the post. That is when I started asking you on every one of your propaganda videos; I wanted everyone to see that you're owned.
Why don't you come over to this thread and debate?
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored You have a mental illness, making 50 duplicate posts is a fair indication of that. I gave you an answer, the spacewalk was not faked. The movement of the flag through what would be a viscous liquid is impossible. The idiot in that video talks about there being NO gravity.
Why would I go to a basketball forum to debate with somebody who has no capacity to take anything in? You don't debate, you just repost and spam identical content all around the internet.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"Why would I go to a basketball forum to debate with somebody who has no capacity to take anything in?"
Translation: I dare not debate on a forum where I can't delete the posts of the opposition.
You're pretty much washed up now as you said the Chinces spacewalk was real.
theepochtimes (dot) com/n2/content/view/5809/
/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Translation incorrect. I have seen the last few hundred pages of that forum, where you lied about the things we discussed. I debated with you in good faith at the physics forum and you insulted me. You cannot acknowledge that your apollo 11 footage allegations were baseless, you have not withdrawn them. I care not to debate with such a low level of intelligence, certainly not a basketball forum with such disgraceful insults flying about in that thread. My dust analysis - rebuttal???
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"My dust analysis - rebuttal???"
I still don't know how to measure time on YouTube videos so there's not much I can do with that for now. Anyway, there's a ton of other evidence that Apollo was faked so that issue isn't about whether Apollo was faked. Why don't you come over to this thread...
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
...where there's no 500 character limit and the moderator won't delete anything for you?
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored There is no evidence that Apollo was faked. There is a ton of rubbish as found on your post. It refers to Apollo 11 and speeded up stuff, that you yourself are in no position to question, yet you freely post numerous duplicate posts contending that very thing. You made your mind up and have no ability to re-assess it or change it. Not a "troofer"!
It refers to Apollo 15 flag nonsense, also explained and debunked.
You only post that link to make more spam. Thoroughly dishonest.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"It refers to Apollo 15 flag nonsense, also explained and debunked."
No one who sees this evidence will agree with you; do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving".
The evidence of gravity when they were supposed to be halfway to the moon has never been debunked.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4732099&postcount=1107
(check link for gaps)
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored Only idiots like you.
As for the gravity on the way to the Moon, that is your ill-informed ignorant opinion. I have no idea where you got that from, but it is complete bunkum. You need to take a hobby with somethinmg you are at least good at.
I added comments about that on my video I uploaded watch?v=toaablIJC2Q
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
I already read your comments. They were just a lame attempt at obfuscation. Why don't you come over to this thread...
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
...and discuss the actual evidence instead of making empty rhetorical statements that only sway people who haven't seen the evidence?
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored watch?v=-0RsDqmPa_s Apollo flag moves for 4 times longer than JW's flag
watch?v=V2uhMQXRegc Flag doesn't move at all when he is even closer than Apollo 15 astronaut.
watch?v=kalT4NGdDsk The whole thing shifts right - evidence of camera blooming. Even the flagpole shifts right!!
Debunked.
He spammed his link again to that dead thread.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
Do a YouTube search on "The Flag that Moved" or use this link.
/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0
The flag moves away from the astronaut as he approaches because of the air pushed forward. Then it moves back toward him to fill the void caused by his passing. This is entirely consistent with atmosphere. The nature of the movement is not consistent with camera blooming.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored No, they were highly informed observations of Apollo 11 halfway to the Moon. You say the opposite to my assessment and assume that you are correct - because the opinion being expressed is yours!!. Please enlighten us as to your scientific background.
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
We read that there were "Highly informed observations" but that doesn't mean it's true. Here's a link to some info that shows how science journals are controlled.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4731597&postcount=1090
(check link for gaps)
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored You must have one of those little books with your set responses in them. You find some discrepancies with some branches of science, possibly, then use that as a prop to call into question all aspects of science that explain away your unfeasible hoax theory. You can't make up that sort of self supporting garbage. By your reckoning, I suppose that some of these scientists must support your hoax theory?
Oh....that's right, NO scientist does, and THAT is why you raise that issue!!
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"NO scientist does"
Go back and read this again. You seem to have missed some of it.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4731597&postcount=1090
If a scientist were to try to come forward and say it was all a hoax, it would never come out in the press or science journals and his career would be ruined. He might even be in danger.
Cosmored 1 year ago
@Cosmored I never read it in the first place. You are full of shit.
If any scientist found evidence proving an Apollo hoax they would make a fortune from book sales/ interviews and films. Instead we get numbskulls like Bart Sibrel and David Percy who tell lies and sucker in poor fools like you. I notice that despite supposedly damning evidence, that neither of those two have been "in danger", or Jarrah White. How come?
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Cosmored I have a Physics degree, what do YOU have in any related science?
Betamax101 1 year ago
@Betamax101
"I have a Physics degree, what do YOU have in any related science?"
The info in this post...
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showpost (dot) php?p=4731597&postcount=1090
...makes it pretty clear that lots of people with science degrees can be paid to lie, so your having a degree doesn't prove anything. Now tell us why the movement in the video "The Flag that moved" isn't proof that the footage was taken in atmophere.
Cosmored 1 year ag