God commands Abraham, and Abraham follows the command, to circumcise his son Isaac at 8 days, in order to bring him into the covenant. God said to Abraham that every male among you shall be circumcised and that shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. And throughout the generations, every male among you shall be circumcised.....Need I say more. Every boy should be circumcised. Those who wish their kid to look like a circus freak should be slapped!
@mattdeloff33 God gave that command specifically to those who were Abraham's direct decendants. So if one is not a direct decendent of Abraham why should they submit to a covenant that does not apply to them due to their not being from the proper blood line. Also, If you put any faith in the New Testament, it is plain that the law of circumcision was done away with at the time and that circumcision availeth a man nothing.
@neechee5150 How can you prove the bloodline? It was given l'olam va'ed for his decendants. If it was just for his sons and grandfathers, surely it would have said it? the covenanat of Avraham is l'olam va'ed too- so this is part of the covenant between Avraham and HaShem.
Jews are in the covenant- so they are commanded to have this sign.
@GavriellaMichal The point is that millions of infant boys are circumcised who are not Jews or born into a family that practices circumcision as a religious ceremony, and they are permamently deprived of the choice of whether they want to be circumcised or not circumcised.
However, you do know that the circumcision practiced today is not the same as the type and degree of curcimcision orignally practiced by the Jews? Sucking the blood from a freshly circumcised penis is sick & perverted
To anyone who has subjected their innocent, perfect, defenseless, voiceless boy(s) to this kind of sadistic child abuse, well, let's just say that there will be a very special place reserved for you in HELL!!! Only a pathetic fool would make an attempt to justify such a flagrant violation of human rights. Shame on you circumcisers!
@foxrichard Shut it freak show. No boy should be allowed to walk around with a deformed looking anteater for a dick. That's gross and would never allow any boy in my family to look like that.
@mattdeloff33 yeah, the penis doesn't get cut- a small amount of skin is taken. The penis looks no different in shape and it does nothing to the function as an adult.
@GavriellaMichal Circumcising an adult male results in the removal of 15 square inches of skin. Proportionally in the infant boy, circumcision amounts to more than just a small amount of skin. Have you ever had 15 inches of your skin removed or damaged? Also medical anatomy authorities do not agree with you as the prepuce, frenulum, preputial glands and preputial sac are all parts of the penis and they are removed through circumcision, so saying that the penis is not cut is really semantics
@GavriellaMichal As for the penis looking no different in shape, this is absurd and disingenuous. If you are not a male, this comment is also sexist. Your claim that circumcision does nothing to the function of the penis as an adult is false on several levels. First, infant circumcision often results in damage to the penis and in complications once the male reaches adulthood. Second, the foreskin is so richly nerve laden that removing it deprives a man of sexual sensations.
@GavriellaMichal cont Furthermore, there are studies that clearly demonstrate a lack of sensation and loss of potential for pleasure due circumcision. As you are a woman as I suppose, you have no first hand experience upon which to base your claim regarding how circumcision affects male functioning.
If you truly believe your claims, will you volunteer for a hoodectomy? After all it is not part of the vulva, just a small piece of skin, and it will not affect function or sensation-right?
I wasn't circumcised as a child but chose to have it done at age 20. I did it mostly because it seemed 99% of guys were circumcised and I felt like an odd ball. But as far as sexual experience its just as good in my opinion. I don't feel like I've lost a great deal or anything like that. Plus its true yet unfortunate that most females in the U.S. at least think uncircumcised penises look very unattractive
@fstms3 But dont you agree that having the choice is better than having a perminent change made to a person's body without his or her understanding or concent. If your happy with your penus Im happy for you! But having the same choice before me I would choose to keep what nature gave me - see we can both be happy if our parents just trust that when we grow up we can deal with this on our own. Thanks for your comment!
medicie said its word that male circumcision decreased z ncidence of penile infections and cancer cervix in z wife of circumcised husband .these r mwdical facts
you got that right its a sad thing that ppl do this. but ppl just belive that its a good thing when its not. it takes away a lot of feeling. & stuff. i read that some of the jew rae starting to stop circumcision as well
Can cause permanent nerve damage. EMLA cream used to numb the area is also contraindicated for use on the genitals and several times in monograph the manufacturer clearly states it is not to be used on infants under 6 months old.
Why are you asking? Why would anyone want to mutilate the genitals of a child? Circumcision of children is not medicine, it's barbarity. Leave the genitals of innocent children alone!
@mattdeloff33 The process of circumcision is the deformation. To deform means to change from the original state. Men are born with that body part which they should be able to choose to keep or remove when they are an adult. You really make me laugh with your ignorance.
@yogabear1962 I agree- If the young man choses to be part of the covenant of Avraham he should then choose to have brit millah. But did Avraham not circumscise his son on the 8th day of their lives? this is not just a tradition, they have taken it from the Torah. Shalom
@GavriellaMichal If I write a book that says that you must behead your second child on the 10th day that does not make it moral or give you the authority to do such a thing. Although less extreme this is the same. Circumcision of a baby is nothing less than a human rights violation and should be illegal regardless of what any work of fiction may say.
@yogabear1962 There is an issue with your argument- you are not G-d so I would just ignore you anyways.
But if the teenage boy decides of his own accord to have a brit millah- is that a violation to anyone?
I understand why the tradition is kept (this was given before human rights)- but I believe that when a boy reaches his bar mitzvah- he should have the choice to join the covenant as a man and circumscised- It is part of the Jewish faith. who has the right 2 tell a person what 2 believe?
penile nerve block are administered at 10 & 2 o'clock sites.
this one gave it at 5 & 7 o'clock...
carmelanneo 8 months ago
ouch!!!!!!!
ultimateLDrago 9 months ago
God commands Abraham, and Abraham follows the command, to circumcise his son Isaac at 8 days, in order to bring him into the covenant. God said to Abraham that every male among you shall be circumcised and that shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. And throughout the generations, every male among you shall be circumcised.....Need I say more. Every boy should be circumcised. Those who wish their kid to look like a circus freak should be slapped!
mattdeloff33 1 year ago
@mattdeloff33 God gave that command specifically to those who were Abraham's direct decendants. So if one is not a direct decendent of Abraham why should they submit to a covenant that does not apply to them due to their not being from the proper blood line. Also, If you put any faith in the New Testament, it is plain that the law of circumcision was done away with at the time and that circumcision availeth a man nothing.
neechee5150 11 months ago
@neechee5150 How can you prove the bloodline? It was given l'olam va'ed for his decendants. If it was just for his sons and grandfathers, surely it would have said it? the covenanat of Avraham is l'olam va'ed too- so this is part of the covenant between Avraham and HaShem.
Jews are in the covenant- so they are commanded to have this sign.
Shalom :)
GavriellaMichal 9 months ago
@GavriellaMichal The point is that millions of infant boys are circumcised who are not Jews or born into a family that practices circumcision as a religious ceremony, and they are permamently deprived of the choice of whether they want to be circumcised or not circumcised.
However, you do know that the circumcision practiced today is not the same as the type and degree of curcimcision orignally practiced by the Jews? Sucking the blood from a freshly circumcised penis is sick & perverted
neechee5150 9 months ago
To anyone who has subjected their innocent, perfect, defenseless, voiceless boy(s) to this kind of sadistic child abuse, well, let's just say that there will be a very special place reserved for you in HELL!!! Only a pathetic fool would make an attempt to justify such a flagrant violation of human rights. Shame on you circumcisers!
foxrichard 1 year ago 2
@foxrichard amen
kitarajumala 1 year ago
@foxrichard Shut it freak show. No boy should be allowed to walk around with a deformed looking anteater for a dick. That's gross and would never allow any boy in my family to look like that.
mattdeloff33 1 year ago
@mattdeloff33 yeah, the penis doesn't get cut- a small amount of skin is taken. The penis looks no different in shape and it does nothing to the function as an adult.
GavriellaMichal 9 months ago
@GavriellaMichal Circumcising an adult male results in the removal of 15 square inches of skin. Proportionally in the infant boy, circumcision amounts to more than just a small amount of skin. Have you ever had 15 inches of your skin removed or damaged? Also medical anatomy authorities do not agree with you as the prepuce, frenulum, preputial glands and preputial sac are all parts of the penis and they are removed through circumcision, so saying that the penis is not cut is really semantics
neechee5150 9 months ago
@GavriellaMichal As for the penis looking no different in shape, this is absurd and disingenuous. If you are not a male, this comment is also sexist. Your claim that circumcision does nothing to the function of the penis as an adult is false on several levels. First, infant circumcision often results in damage to the penis and in complications once the male reaches adulthood. Second, the foreskin is so richly nerve laden that removing it deprives a man of sexual sensations.
neechee5150 9 months ago
@GavriellaMichal cont Furthermore, there are studies that clearly demonstrate a lack of sensation and loss of potential for pleasure due circumcision. As you are a woman as I suppose, you have no first hand experience upon which to base your claim regarding how circumcision affects male functioning.
If you truly believe your claims, will you volunteer for a hoodectomy? After all it is not part of the vulva, just a small piece of skin, and it will not affect function or sensation-right?
neechee5150 9 months ago
I wasn't circumcised as a child but chose to have it done at age 20. I did it mostly because it seemed 99% of guys were circumcised and I felt like an odd ball. But as far as sexual experience its just as good in my opinion. I don't feel like I've lost a great deal or anything like that. Plus its true yet unfortunate that most females in the U.S. at least think uncircumcised penises look very unattractive
fstms3 2 years ago
@fstms3 Thank you.....you just set the record straight for all these anti-circumcision freaks out there that have no clue what they're talking about.
mattdeloff33 1 year ago
@mattdeloff33 , for someone who never even had a foreskin, you are totally clueless about its function and purpose, so what do you know?
PungiFungi 11 months ago
@fstms3 But dont you agree that having the choice is better than having a perminent change made to a person's body without his or her understanding or concent. If your happy with your penus Im happy for you! But having the same choice before me I would choose to keep what nature gave me - see we can both be happy if our parents just trust that when we grow up we can deal with this on our own. Thanks for your comment!
yogabear1962 1 year ago
Circumcision in all its forms is Genital Mutilation.
EscapeSociety 2 years ago
I agree with you.
aliamoushahi 2 years ago
medicie said its word that male circumcision decreased z ncidence of penile infections and cancer cervix in z wife of circumcised husband .these r mwdical facts
ossamaakl 2 years ago
w w w . n o c i r c . o r g
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catd3g 2 years ago
you got that right its a sad thing that ppl do this. but ppl just belive that its a good thing when its not. it takes away a lot of feeling. & stuff. i read that some of the jew rae starting to stop circumcision as well
just wish it all stop for the best
catd3g 2 years ago
OK.
aliamoushahi 3 years ago
Can cause permanent nerve damage. EMLA cream used to numb the area is also contraindicated for use on the genitals and several times in monograph the manufacturer clearly states it is not to be used on infants under 6 months old.
EnoFrisk 3 years ago 7
It's Ok. You are right. But, how do you do this procedure? by general anesthesia or another local infiltration?
we didn'n encounter any drug toxicity in local infiltration, because we limit it to permissible dose (1-2mg/kg lidocaine)
aliamoushahi 3 years ago
Why are you asking? Why would anyone want to mutilate the genitals of a child? Circumcision of children is not medicine, it's barbarity. Leave the genitals of innocent children alone!
EnoFrisk 3 years ago 4
you are correct. I have no idea why any loving parent would have their child surgically altered.
yogabear1962 3 years ago 14
@yogabear1962 So they don't look like deformed freaks!
mattdeloff33 1 year ago
@mattdeloff33 The process of circumcision is the deformation. To deform means to change from the original state. Men are born with that body part which they should be able to choose to keep or remove when they are an adult. You really make me laugh with your ignorance.
yogabear1962 1 year ago
@yogabear1962 I agree- If the young man choses to be part of the covenant of Avraham he should then choose to have brit millah. But did Avraham not circumscise his son on the 8th day of their lives? this is not just a tradition, they have taken it from the Torah. Shalom
GavriellaMichal 9 months ago
@GavriellaMichal If I write a book that says that you must behead your second child on the 10th day that does not make it moral or give you the authority to do such a thing. Although less extreme this is the same. Circumcision of a baby is nothing less than a human rights violation and should be illegal regardless of what any work of fiction may say.
yogabear1962 9 months ago
@yogabear1962 There is an issue with your argument- you are not G-d so I would just ignore you anyways.
But if the teenage boy decides of his own accord to have a brit millah- is that a violation to anyone?
I understand why the tradition is kept (this was given before human rights)- but I believe that when a boy reaches his bar mitzvah- he should have the choice to join the covenant as a man and circumscised- It is part of the Jewish faith. who has the right 2 tell a person what 2 believe?
GavriellaMichal 9 months ago
do they numb it so it doesnt hurt?
ownxinxrobes 2 years ago
First it numbed by local anesthesia with a small needle, then procidure done.
aliamoushahi 2 years ago
stil hurts?
ownxinxrobes 2 years ago
No. We sedate him by inhalation vaporative anesthetics.
aliamoushahi 2 years ago
@aliamoushahi So your telling me there is no post operative pain or discomfort? I find that difficult to believe.
yogabear1962 1 year ago