@guitarhamster102 even though I like Wu, I still pretty much blame Sun Quan for betraying Liu Bei which made them break the alliance since he conspired with Wei to attack Shu. They should've taken Guan Yu prisoner rather than kill him.
@Mysterbyg Wu was already an enemy despite the alliance. They all know in the end only one kingdom will survive while the other two fell. Its just that if Liu Bei attacked Wu now, no matter who won that battle, the victor will have it powers weaken and the other will probably be completely destroyed. In this scenario, Wei will only sit back and Macro up and wait till one kingdom falls, and then attack the weaken victor. If Liu Bei attacks from the north however, Cao cao's main army is rallied to
@Mysterbyg the south, and it will result in an easy victory, and once Cao cao is defeated, Liu Bei would have the upper hands and Wu will be forced to surrender due to the power gained by conquering central China. Well of course, if you like you can attack anyone who attacks you, but the kingdom will probably not survive long.
Very tragic the whole scene revolving Liu Bei and Guan Yu and the Yi ling Campaign. This cut is historically reliable except for the face Zhuge never told Liu Bei to not go.
@kittikatz777 actually it was the second last wei was first (but jin came from it and most were wei officers) then shu (joined jin) then wu (not sure what happened and jin lasted until the next dynasty
@kittikatz777 Except what else could he do? Wu betrayed him and it would be an insult to both Guan Yu and the vow of brotherhood that they swore to not even try get revenge, especially considering how close all three of the sworn brothers were. It's easy to say now with the benefit of hindsight that Liu Bei acted rashly. And Shu lasted 40 years after the events of Fan Castle, which is pretty impressive given for the majority of that time all the more famous Shu warriors were old/dead.
@MasamuneAzure Guan Yu stop being an asshole? What about all the crazy shit the guys from Wu did in the novel? Such as the 'wedding' trick to kidnap/kill Liu Bei? Zhou Yu's attempts to kill Zhuge Liang? The trick to get Sun Shang Xiang back from Shu and convince her to kidnap Liu Shan as well? The break down in the Shu/Wu alliance is not just the fault of Shu you know. And nobody certainly forced Wu to join forces with Wei and backstab Liu Bei either.
@UchihaNaruto09 Everything what you just said about Wu was false. They were novel inventions. Historically they didn't any of that. SSX left Liu Bei of her own will, because her marriage with Bei was merely political. Maybe Wu allied with Wei just to make sure Wei won't attack them if they taking Jing from Shu.
@UchihaNaruto09 It's not an act. Wu is on the more reasonable side. You lend someone your house when you vacate since your not using anymore for the time being. You return and ask for it back, man refuses and makes up lies bout it. Then when you try to become friends with a friend of the man who moved in, he insults you. The man who took care of yuor house also has anotehr house.
Now Wu forcibly taking the house back when the two are out, Wu is the right one morally, legally, and reasonable.
@MasamuneAzure vacant? wu never conquered jing in the first place they tried and failed liu bei took advantage of there failure and conquered it himself pushing back cao cao to fan castle wu declared that jing should be theres because of how much they contributed to the war against cao cao which is bs they were pissed they didnt take jing and wanted liu bei to hand it over to avoid war liu bei lied and said he will give it to them once he has shu then only gave half once he conquered it
@5H4K490 lolollol your knowledge on TK history is laughable. No. Zhou Yu conquered Nanjun, and Jiang Xia from Cao Cao/Cao Ren. Liu Bei was ONLY to have Southern Jing, which consisted of Chang Sha, Wu Ling, Gui Yang, and Ling Ling. After Zhou Yu's death, Lu Su was made Viceroy and LENT Nanjun and Jiang Xia to Liu Bei as a starting base. But after Wu asked for the return of Nanjun, and Jiang Xia. Liu Bei made up lies and refused to. Go look up real history bud before attempting to argue back.
@MasamuneAzure jiang xia belonged to liu qi who was under liu beis protection therefore wu never conquered it, yes zhou yu did take jiang xia but was wounded in his attempt to take xiang yang and died, lu su gave jiang ling to liu bei to remove the burden of defending two fronts at a time when they've lost there commander and morals low, however liu bei gave them 3 cities that's a gain of two and wu claims it has legitimacy over all of jing now thats laughable
@5H4K490 No. Liu Bei basically abandoned Jiang Xia when Cao Cao came. Zhou Yu retook it alongside Jiang Ling(Nanjun). Liu Bei ONLY had southern jing. Zhou Yu proposed to Sun Quan to invade Yizhou. ON his way return to Jingzhou he died of illness. Lu Su succeeded, gave Jiang Xia and LENT Nanjun to Liu Bei. There is NO PROOF whatsoever indicating Lu Su lent it to avoid two frontal wars when Zhou Yu was advising to make a 3 front war.
@5H4K490 No. When Liu Bei refused to give back Nanjun, Lu Meng conquered Gui yang, Ling Ling, and Chang Sha, there was no NANJUN! Liu Bei offered them Jiang xia, chang sha, and gui yang, and Wu returned Ling Ling. Dude. It's not about how many cities, it's the value and resourcefulness of the city. Nanjun was a commandery with Jiangling which had strategic grounds and vast resources. Chang Sha, Jaing Xia, and Gui Yang were undeveloped and did not give great income.
@5H4K490 Liu Bei was being a little bitch. He's the one that owes Wu, not the other way around. Without Wu, Liu Bei would have been destroyed. It was Wu who defeated Liu Bei's enemy, and Wu who made them back the fuck off. Then they were nice enough to lend him a very good city. What does he give in return? Lies,and Guan Yu being a bigger bitch.
@MasamuneAzure they did it for liu bei? lol didnt cao cao position his army across wus border, he was aiming to take wu they were torn between surrender or fight and then claim that liu bei owes them for defending him, hah that was just a bonus for liu bei it turned out that way. yes i understand the strategic value of jiang ling and that the southern districts are worth less than the central area of jing.
@MasamuneAzure as for the lending itself its pretty obvious it was done to defend against cao cao who would come looking for revenge now that zhou yu was dead and with liu bei gathering his army in the south lu su decided to use liu bei to defend jing for them, they planned to use liu bei as much as he used them only difference zhuge liang kept liu bei a few steps ahead this was a war period foul play is common you cant bitch if the other side screws you when you planned to do the same.
@MasamuneAzure the dumb thing wu did was kill guan yu, had they kept him alive they could have simply given him back they knew how much he meant to them although they won yi ling at the time they werent sure what would happen sun quan is shown to be too quick to sentence death not surprising that one or was it two of his kids turned out to be tyrants abit to much of the bad side of sun quan it seems
@5H4K490 Actually no. Liu Bei invaded Jingzhou to take it back, not for revenge. He prepared 2 years to make war with Wu to retake it. Guan Yu was an excuse.
None of Sun Quan's children were tyrants. His grandson, Sun Hao was and by then it was out of Quan's control. Sun Hao at FIRST lowered taxes, and was benevolent, but succumbed to power and paranoia. Started killing off those who opposed him and that had too much power as he thought.
Dynasty Warriors 5 is probably going to be the last almost realistic dynasty warriors game. In dynasty warriors 6 & 7, all the characters look so modern and almost godlike.
If not for Guan Yu death,Zhang Fei would not have die because he cry over Guan Yu death and was so angry and ordered his men to do something that impossible to do in a short period of times and then they kill Zhange Fei :(
I guess I can understand what he's going through. I have a brother, and if my brother dies by someone's hands. I would do the samething. You take my brother, I take your life!!!
@666Kaca I didn't like that either, but I think that his emotions got the better of his judgement at that moment. He was thinking from his heart not his brain.
@MyUnknown1234 but throwing aside the best strategist in the land and the era just because you're pissed?Wtf i wouldn't even touch him out of respect and out of fear that he might leave
i through in dynasty warriors 6 what i got that GongSun Zan said to Zhao Yun Liu Bei? He And I Were Students He Was Very Gentle then Liu Bei said Just Gentle?........No Theres Something About Him and i see him snatching the sword and ignoreing Zhao Yun even in DW6 he said on the mission at the end off Chang Ban he said Zhao Yun Come With Us and he like just joined shu i wonder what would happen if he didnt come with them i wonder to meself myself
I like everything about Liu Bei; his good nature, his wonderful qualities, and his kind heart. But there's just one thing I hate about him. I mean, like just because Wu and Wei killed Guan Yu, that doesn't mean to seek revenge. Even if Lui Bei succeeded in getting his revenge, Guan Yu will always be dead. ( And News Flash, Liu Bei: If you try getting revenge over Wu, doesn't that mean also killing your wife, as well?)
@VNvideos13 nope, when she married Liu Bei left wu for him if you ever get tosee dynasty warriors 6 he tells her that hes sorry and she replies that she left wu for him to join him.......yup
lolLiuBei. Yeah, send the biggest most worthless jackass to defend a place, then get pissed when he dies, and you still have the much better, much more humble general/brother in Zhang Fei, and when he dies, IIRC, Xuande didn't give a shit.(Then again, he died shortly after. Again, IIRC. Been a while)
If I could just mention something on mrbeates comment, it is true that they never allied, Shu and Wei, but play the game because they had help getting revange in wu, who help them then? It wasn't Wu because thats who Shu was against. lmnon00b5, you on the other hand have a point to your side of the story, shu asked for help to take on wu consider that Wu's Army is freaking insane in numbers plus with the aura around Sun Quan, looks like a fucking Super Saiyan! Point being, you both have facts
Shu did not get help to fight Wu. Wu temporarily alligned with Wei so that when Wu is fighting Shu Wei don't come south and smash Wu. Shu and Wei never allied, thats true. Shu and Wei are arch rivals. Wu was like neutrals, they say they are against Wei and friends with Shu, but turn their backs once an opportunity opens.
@Imnon00b5 They turned their back on Shu. Though i agree Shu should have returned it. Wu literally destroyed Shu when they took Jing and the battle that came afterwards at Yi Ling. Remember, Lu Su lent it to Liu Bei, Liu Bei didn't just take it, Lu Su lent it.
Yes Lu Su did promise Liu Bei ownership to Jing but on an agreement. Sun Quan had kept his word for years and was still working onthe allaince by even helping Shu with taking the Yi Province by invading He Fei.
its like a loan if you loaned me 15,000 dollars and you wanted me to pay you back in 1 year, would you not be annoyed if i never paid you back. And then it turns out i get a new high paying job and i make 15k a month. and i still refused to pay back. Excactly what Shu did.
@Imnon00b5 How would Sun Quan invading He Fei (WEi) help Liu Bei take Yi zhou? You are wrong. Liu Bei invaded Han zhong and captured it. Lu Su sent Lu Meng to capture Ling Ling, Gui Yang and Chang Sha, and was successful. Liu Bei told Sun Quan he would give Jiang Xia, Chang Sha, and Gui Yang if Sun Quan invaded He Fei. And Sun Quan accepted, and regained the 3 and also invaded which he lost. Your last part was irrelevant to what im saying. You said Liu Bei snatched it NO, Wu lent it to him.
First of all Liu Bei was struggling when taking Han Zhong and when Cao Cao took his main force to fight Wu, a few generals such as Zhang He were left to defend Han ZHong. Liu bei said that and he did indeed but wtf Sun Quan wanted all that was rightfully his.
Liu Bei did snatch the Jing Province when Zhou Yu defeated Cao Ren. Sun Quan did not want to break the alllaine with Liu Bei ( at that time) so he lent them the province once Liu Bei captured the Riverlands. Did Shu do that? Nope
@Imnon00b5 Your information is incorrect. Xiahou Yuan was left in charge, after his defeat and death on the field, Guo Huai and Zhang He defended YangPing. Cao Cao came to Han Zhong, and pulled everyone out of it. Liu Bei heard of Lu Su' attack on the 3 commanderies and went to move to Gong An. Afterwards, he made the agreement in which Quan would take JiangXia, Changsha, and Gui Yang, if Sun Quan would invade He Fei, so Liu Bei can stabilize Han zhong.
Yes excactly which is how Liu Bei got more reign into Han Zhong. Also i thought you said Liu Bei only had Nanjun?
But then of course obviously he sent Guan Yu and Zhang Fei too keep on the assult, after Zhou Yu sent his forces. And like i said if Sun Quan wouldve acted it wouldve ruined the whole allaince.
@Imnon00b5 Fair enough. Yes Liu Bei only had Nanjun, the southern cities. Zhou Yu got Jiang Ling, Jiang Xia and the more northern cities. But after his death, Lu Su took over and lent the rest of Jing to Liu Bei.
The agreement was , when Liu Bei took Yizhou he would give back Jing. Wait... what side am i on and what side are we on?
This argument is the that Sun Quan had a right to atatck Shu because fact liu Bei had was shallow enough to not go on his decision to give back Jingzhou.
@Imnon00b5 Of course, Sun Quan had the right to take back Jing. I just think that when they took Jing, and defeated Liu bei two years later at Yi Ling it crippled Shu. Wu needed Jing only for security for their capital, and resources. The manner in which they took Jing from Shu weakened Shu immensely.
@Nightshade323 No, Shu severely weakened when Jing was taken and later defeated at Yi Ling. Wu devastated Shu's forces in Jing and Yi Ling without much casualties while Shu suffered heavy casualties and losses which they can not have recovered from.
@Imnon00b5 Second paragraph... Uhh noo, your going by the novel = historically inaccurate. Historically, Liu Bei only got Nanjun. Zhou Yu gained the rest, and stationed in Jiang Ling. He left for Wu to see Sun Quan and discuss either invading Cao Cao's northern cities or invading Yi Zhou by a joint attack with Liu Bei. On the way back to Jiang Ling Zhou yu died. Lu Su took over an lended Jing to Liu Bei.
I find it amazing how like warriors like these ppl could take out 30 ppl with one blow lol but this is one of the best games ever but I'm a little pissed ooff how they made the 6th where eveyone uses almost spears
I dont understand why people like this cutscne more than dw6
In the novel it describes Liu bei mourning and crying. He grieves at the death of Guan Yu.
In this one all we see is Liu bei who barely knows how to walk
Also if you just rate down my comment without replying it proves you really dont have anything to say to my argument therefore you deep down inside agree with me
I dont understand why people like this cutscne more than dw6
In the novel it describes Liu bei mourning and crying. He grieves at the death of Guan Yu.
In this one all we see is Liu bei who barely knows how to walk
Also if you just rate down my comment without replying it proves you really dont have anything to say to my argument therefore you deep down inside agree with me
Imnon00b5 I agree, KOEI made Dynasty Warriors 6 the most accurate game out there, and people think this is what really happened. Liu Bei, and I read about this, Liu Bei and Zhang Fei were grieving about Guan Yu's death. Zhang Fei isn't even in this cutscene! And If anybody thinks otherwise, you obviously haven't read the novel. Go ahead, rate this comment a thumbs down, but if you don't believe this is true, you are not a REAL Dynasty Warriors fan.
@Coldplay1999 i think they did a very good job on #6 guan yu was the glue that held them both together guan yu was the older brother and the second oldest was zhang fei was like the middle child and they always look to the oldest for guidance
@themajormotokok Actualy Liu Bei was the oldest, He was designated older brother in the novel followed by Guan yu and then Fei. Histiricly, their was no oath of brotherhood. it's just a romantic invention for fiction.
@vguyver2 hmm interesting so the oath didn't exist never knew that learn so much every day ^^ im looking for resources any suggestions on the best places with usable accurate info? if so pm me plz thanks in advance
@themajormotokok the best known source is the historicle work "Three Kingdoms History (Sanguozhi)" by Chen Shou. Chen Shou was a Han-Shu officer who later served Jin after the end of the thre Kingdoms. Afterwords he compiled records and wrote a historicle literate of the events in history, mostly unmarred by fiction. For example you'll learn that Guan Yu did not in fact kill Hua Xiong, but it was actualy Sun Jian in history, but the novel has it as Guan Yu.
@Coldplay1999 Exactly =3. In DW4 all Wu armies's commander was Sun Jian.. which is weird. In DW6, you can't see him after Hu Lao Gate.. exept for his Legend where.. you are Sun Jian himself and conquer china. RAWR.
@Coldplay1999 Are you referring to the novel? This is accurate you know, when Guan Yu died, Zhang Fei was in Langzhong and Liu Bei in Chengdu. Liu Bei got this message first, then Zhang Fei. Zhang Fei then marched onto the capital to grieve.
But for a good and effective cause. Guan Yu's progress on Wei was working well, and then Wu comes in and trashes down Shu's and Wu's chances of doing three prong attacks.
Shu wasnt attacking Wei they were defending against Wei and the Wu allaince. All that happened was Wu arrived late. Wu diditn ruin nothing they decided before battle of Fan to punish Shu
@Imnon00b5 Shu was attacking Wei on the Jing front. Fan Castle is when Guan Yu attacked from Xin ye area, and was making good progress until Wu took the Jing cities. Guan Yu had no where to run but Shang Yong, Liu Feng did not send reinforcements which could've brought Guan Yu to Shang Yong. Guan Yu captured Yu Jin and nearly won the battle of Fan Castle, he retreated when he heard Wu attacked jing. Wu surrounded Guan Yu at a castle and captured him. Yunchang was executed by side his son Ping.
And why do you think all that happened... because Wu allied with Wei.
Youre whole comment had no significance because all that happened of the allaince with Wei. Wu wanted the Jing Province so they allied with Wei. They allied with Wei BEFORE FAN OR JING
Seriously you wasted youre time telling me something i already knew
Dude, you said "Shu wasn't attacking Wei." Shu was attacking Wei lead by Guan Yu. Wu did not ally with Wei before they took Jing. Before Wu reached guan Yu they had already taken Shu cities in Jing by surrender of Shu officers. Guan Yu's defense forces in Jing was light, his forces was off fighting Wei. Wu took this chance to take Jing. After they took Jing, they captured Guan Yu at Mai Castle and executed him.
Wu Allied with Wei only when they heard Liu Bei was preparing for a revenge campaign on them. I get my info from Sanguozhi the historical facts on Late Han, and three kingdoms era.
Ah hell naw, how dare Liu Bei push my Zhuge Liang, if zhuge liang was black, he would've punched him in the face! xD
XxXdeaththekidx 1 week ago
omg liu bei is gonna kil sun shang xiang? that's just wrong
sonnylovato100 1 month ago
Zhao Yun and Zhuge Liang said Defeat Wu(zhao) and Defeat Wei(zhuge) at the same time o.o
Drgons904ever 1 month ago
where did zhao yun's shoulder pads go while kneeling?
mookemaster222 2 months ago
Bring me my sword at once. Bring me my baby Liu Shen so I can throw him on the ground again!
TheArtofUTube 2 months ago
I had that reaction from 0:15 on wards when Megaman Legends 3 is cancelled.
Themultiroleman 3 months ago
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random private: Durring the assault on fan castle the wu army surronded general Guan Yu and
liu bei: it cant be. Guan Yu! bring me my sword at once. Everyone begin preparing for war.
zhao yun: No my lord our enemy is wei it would not be just to attack wu.
zhuge liang: Defeat wei and wu will have no choice but to surrender. please reconsider.
liu bei: None of that matters to me anymore. None of you under stand my pain. i must do it fo...
random private (screaming) : and he defeated them
heroskiller7 4 months ago
WUMUSTPAY!
HAYLERz1000 5 months ago
Liu Bei was really a dick to the Wu kingdom (who saved Liu Bei's ass more than once)
guitarhamster102 5 months ago
@guitarhamster102 even though I like Wu, I still pretty much blame Sun Quan for betraying Liu Bei which made them break the alliance since he conspired with Wei to attack Shu. They should've taken Guan Yu prisoner rather than kill him.
InuYashaboy1992 4 weeks ago
Private: "The Wu army...surrounded general Guan Yu and..."
Liu Bei: "Prepare for War!"
Private: "er...I...what?...You didnt let me.."
Liu Bei: "You heard me, prepare for war! We attack Wu!"
Private "Should we tell him that Guan Yu has deserted us?"
Private 2: "Nah, I never trust men with beards anyway"
AxReborn11 6 months ago 10
Our enemy is Wei?!? WU JUST ATTACKED YOU!!! THEY, ARE YOUR ENEMY! I thought Zhuge Liang was supposed to be smart?!?
Mysterbyg 6 months ago 2
@Mysterbyg Wu was already an enemy despite the alliance. They all know in the end only one kingdom will survive while the other two fell. Its just that if Liu Bei attacked Wu now, no matter who won that battle, the victor will have it powers weaken and the other will probably be completely destroyed. In this scenario, Wei will only sit back and Macro up and wait till one kingdom falls, and then attack the weaken victor. If Liu Bei attacks from the north however, Cao cao's main army is rallied to
alan133 5 months ago
@Mysterbyg the south, and it will result in an easy victory, and once Cao cao is defeated, Liu Bei would have the upper hands and Wu will be forced to surrender due to the power gained by conquering central China. Well of course, if you like you can attack anyone who attacks you, but the kingdom will probably not survive long.
alan133 5 months ago
What if Liu Bei listened to Zhuge Liang and then avenged Guan Yu after Wei had fallen?
Sereniama 7 months ago
I wonder if he accidentally hits the officer who brought his sword,that would be funny as hell
SinCity2100 7 months ago
Very tragic the whole scene revolving Liu Bei and Guan Yu and the Yi ling Campaign. This cut is historically reliable except for the face Zhuge never told Liu Bei to not go.
Xboxishomo 8 months ago
@Xboxishomo fact
Xboxishomo 8 months ago
keep pressing 2 for epic smash against chair
Kushuluck 8 months ago
*gets into time traveling delorean*
I GOING TO SAVE GUAN YU FROM DEATH AT FAN CASTLE, SO I CAN STOP LIU BEI FROM SCREWING UP.
*insert time travelling sounds*
Rilurio 8 months ago
Wooow Liu Bei, its time for you to go back to your yearly rehab visit!
kai5020 9 months ago
Liu Bei is 1 of those guys you really don't wanna see mad lol
sniperkain 9 months ago
@sniperkain not after seeing the dw7 angry scene...
4TheOneWithOutAName 9 months ago
*sigh* and such recklessness and ignorance of reason is exactly why shu kingdom fell first. poor liu bei.
kittikatz777 10 months ago
@kittikatz777 actually it was the second last wei was first (but jin came from it and most were wei officers) then shu (joined jin) then wu (not sure what happened and jin lasted until the next dynasty
naruto1539 10 months ago
@kittikatz777 just some more information here is the time period for each
Cao Wei 220-265
Shu Han 221-263
Eastern Wu 229-280
Jin Dynasty 266-420
naruto1539 10 months ago
@kittikatz777 Except what else could he do? Wu betrayed him and it would be an insult to both Guan Yu and the vow of brotherhood that they swore to not even try get revenge, especially considering how close all three of the sworn brothers were. It's easy to say now with the benefit of hindsight that Liu Bei acted rashly. And Shu lasted 40 years after the events of Fan Castle, which is pretty impressive given for the majority of that time all the more famous Shu warriors were old/dead.
UchihaNaruto09 8 months ago
@UchihaNaruto09 WEll if Liu Bei would just return Jing, Guan Yu stop being an asshole, then Wu would be fine.
when Shu generals die or old.. Wei and Wu generals get old or die. Historically Liu Bei, Zhang Fei and Guan Yu were not sworn brothers.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure Guan Yu stop being an asshole? What about all the crazy shit the guys from Wu did in the novel? Such as the 'wedding' trick to kidnap/kill Liu Bei? Zhou Yu's attempts to kill Zhuge Liang? The trick to get Sun Shang Xiang back from Shu and convince her to kidnap Liu Shan as well? The break down in the Shu/Wu alliance is not just the fault of Shu you know. And nobody certainly forced Wu to join forces with Wei and backstab Liu Bei either.
UchihaNaruto09 8 months ago
@UchihaNaruto09 Everything what you just said about Wu was false. They were novel inventions. Historically they didn't any of that. SSX left Liu Bei of her own will, because her marriage with Bei was merely political. Maybe Wu allied with Wei just to make sure Wei won't attack them if they taking Jing from Shu.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure You sure seem awfully defensive of Wu there. Stop acting as if Wu were the holy ones who were always in the right here.
UchihaNaruto09 8 months ago
@UchihaNaruto09 It's not an act. Wu is on the more reasonable side. You lend someone your house when you vacate since your not using anymore for the time being. You return and ask for it back, man refuses and makes up lies bout it. Then when you try to become friends with a friend of the man who moved in, he insults you. The man who took care of yuor house also has anotehr house.
Now Wu forcibly taking the house back when the two are out, Wu is the right one morally, legally, and reasonable.
MasamuneAzure 8 months ago
@MasamuneAzure vacant? wu never conquered jing in the first place they tried and failed liu bei took advantage of there failure and conquered it himself pushing back cao cao to fan castle wu declared that jing should be theres because of how much they contributed to the war against cao cao which is bs they were pissed they didnt take jing and wanted liu bei to hand it over to avoid war liu bei lied and said he will give it to them once he has shu then only gave half once he conquered it
5H4K490 7 months ago
@5H4K490 lolollol your knowledge on TK history is laughable. No. Zhou Yu conquered Nanjun, and Jiang Xia from Cao Cao/Cao Ren. Liu Bei was ONLY to have Southern Jing, which consisted of Chang Sha, Wu Ling, Gui Yang, and Ling Ling. After Zhou Yu's death, Lu Su was made Viceroy and LENT Nanjun and Jiang Xia to Liu Bei as a starting base. But after Wu asked for the return of Nanjun, and Jiang Xia. Liu Bei made up lies and refused to. Go look up real history bud before attempting to argue back.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure jiang xia belonged to liu qi who was under liu beis protection therefore wu never conquered it, yes zhou yu did take jiang xia but was wounded in his attempt to take xiang yang and died, lu su gave jiang ling to liu bei to remove the burden of defending two fronts at a time when they've lost there commander and morals low, however liu bei gave them 3 cities that's a gain of two and wu claims it has legitimacy over all of jing now thats laughable
5H4K490 7 months ago
@5H4K490 No. Liu Bei basically abandoned Jiang Xia when Cao Cao came. Zhou Yu retook it alongside Jiang Ling(Nanjun). Liu Bei ONLY had southern jing. Zhou Yu proposed to Sun Quan to invade Yizhou. ON his way return to Jingzhou he died of illness. Lu Su succeeded, gave Jiang Xia and LENT Nanjun to Liu Bei. There is NO PROOF whatsoever indicating Lu Su lent it to avoid two frontal wars when Zhou Yu was advising to make a 3 front war.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@5H4K490 No. When Liu Bei refused to give back Nanjun, Lu Meng conquered Gui yang, Ling Ling, and Chang Sha, there was no NANJUN! Liu Bei offered them Jiang xia, chang sha, and gui yang, and Wu returned Ling Ling. Dude. It's not about how many cities, it's the value and resourcefulness of the city. Nanjun was a commandery with Jiangling which had strategic grounds and vast resources. Chang Sha, Jaing Xia, and Gui Yang were undeveloped and did not give great income.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@5H4K490 Liu Bei was being a little bitch. He's the one that owes Wu, not the other way around. Without Wu, Liu Bei would have been destroyed. It was Wu who defeated Liu Bei's enemy, and Wu who made them back the fuck off. Then they were nice enough to lend him a very good city. What does he give in return? Lies,and Guan Yu being a bigger bitch.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure they did it for liu bei? lol didnt cao cao position his army across wus border, he was aiming to take wu they were torn between surrender or fight and then claim that liu bei owes them for defending him, hah that was just a bonus for liu bei it turned out that way. yes i understand the strategic value of jiang ling and that the southern districts are worth less than the central area of jing.
5H4K490 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure as for the lending itself its pretty obvious it was done to defend against cao cao who would come looking for revenge now that zhou yu was dead and with liu bei gathering his army in the south lu su decided to use liu bei to defend jing for them, they planned to use liu bei as much as he used them only difference zhuge liang kept liu bei a few steps ahead this was a war period foul play is common you cant bitch if the other side screws you when you planned to do the same.
5H4K490 7 months ago
@MasamuneAzure the dumb thing wu did was kill guan yu, had they kept him alive they could have simply given him back they knew how much he meant to them although they won yi ling at the time they werent sure what would happen sun quan is shown to be too quick to sentence death not surprising that one or was it two of his kids turned out to be tyrants abit to much of the bad side of sun quan it seems
5H4K490 7 months ago
@5H4K490 Actually no. Liu Bei invaded Jingzhou to take it back, not for revenge. He prepared 2 years to make war with Wu to retake it. Guan Yu was an excuse.
None of Sun Quan's children were tyrants. His grandson, Sun Hao was and by then it was out of Quan's control. Sun Hao at FIRST lowered taxes, and was benevolent, but succumbed to power and paranoia. Started killing off those who opposed him and that had too much power as he thought.
MasamuneAzure 7 months ago
Back in the day, Before Lui bei lost his Facial Hair.
spartanwarrior46 10 months ago 11
Anger won't help him win a battle. He has to have patience before getting revenge. Which is why he lost at Yi Ling.
InuYashaboy1992 10 months ago
i just noticed he has the same voice actor as byakuya from bleach
radiantnakashima 11 months ago
i'm sorry, but it's hilarious when Zhao Yun turns around when Liu Bei hits the chair. He looks angry!
Liu Bei: It can't be... Guan Yu! /hits fist against chair
Zhao Yun: /turns around/ Did you do what I think you just did to that chair?
cosmiclucky 11 months ago 3
@cosmicluck i just saw that xD that was awesome
FeeedXD 11 months ago
Does anyone have the soundtrack of this music...?
tgBonJovi 11 months ago
Press six. And they say. "At-Wu. Feet way."
JagoShogun 11 months ago
Oh my GOD the voice acting is absolutely terrible.
syncmaster930 1 year ago
@syncmaster930 for minor characters i have to agree but the major characters are decent atleast thats my opinion
radiantnakashima 11 months ago
if i was liu bei i'd be pissed i'd do the same thing
TheM93raffica 1 year ago
Dynasty Warriors 5 is probably going to be the last almost realistic dynasty warriors game. In dynasty warriors 6 & 7, all the characters look so modern and almost godlike.
Kimarey 1 year ago
:50 Zhao Yun in the background: My lord doesn't pay attention to me!!, sob sob (swinging back and forth)
yugen852 1 year ago 3
why does Lui Bei look younger after this Dynasty Warriors??
sesshymaru 1 year ago
5 people dun understand the PAIN!
97432561 1 year ago 2
someone should dub this on lebron james leaving the cavaliers
MattHXIV 1 year ago
WU musy pay....yeah,and shu lost the battle and TONS of soldiers.....
ChrisTheBest1992 1 year ago
0:13
znobberful 1 year ago
Sorry Luz Xun ill be a bad boy and steal the start of your comment!! mwahahah x3
Soldier:The Surounded Guan Yu and..
Liu Bei: It cant be.. Guan Yu *bangs Fist*
Soldier:what they shaved of his beard
Liu Bei:Thats wath i mean goddamnit his beared was my teaddybear!!!
Liu Bei: i wont forgive them bring me my sword at once!!!
zhao yun: nononono dont be that way
Liu Bei: OUT OF MY WAY
Guy whos name i forgot:but if you atack wu will..... just reconsider
Liu bei: I DONT CARE I KILL EM
znobberful 1 year ago 2
@znobberful Guy Whos Name I Forgot: My name is Zhuge Liang....
koolvideoer 1 year ago
0:16 band in the corner starts playing
guitarplayer9090 1 year ago
lol kills camera man
guitarplayer9090 1 year ago
if my brother had died i wold do the same thing LUI BEI UR NOT ALONE !!!!!!!!
emily091 1 year ago
keep replaying 0:13 it's kind of funny.
MegaPokemon64 1 year ago
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thank you for getting mad and going to kill that kingdom
jmsun1 1 year ago
thank you for getting mad and going to kill wu
jmsun1 1 year ago
It's kinda funny how Zhao Yun just sits there after Liu Bei brushes him off XD
MetalGearRaxis 1 year ago
If not for Guan Yu death,Zhang Fei would not have die because he cry over Guan Yu death and was so angry and ordered his men to do something that impossible to do in a short period of times and then they kill Zhange Fei :(
thunderkenny966 1 year ago 2
what about zhang fei?
97mysterio 1 year ago
has anyone noticed that Zhao Yun's armor pads aren't there at one point.
RebeccaxChambers96 1 year ago 35
@RebeccaxChambers96 yeah, you'd think they'd be a bit more careful with prerendered cut scenes. But it's easy to miss.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2
Very easy miss. lol. when I first saw that, I laughed so hard
RebeccaxChambers96 1 year ago
@RebeccaxChambers96 thats becuz he didnt had his armor...
ChrisTheBest1992 1 year ago
@RebeccaxChambers96 thats funny there were there in beggining then they gone lol
collea123 8 months ago
KongMing-"Defeat Wei and Wu will have no choice but to surrender, please reconsider."
XuanDe-"None of that matters now!"
KongMing-"Well excuuuuuse me!"
SuperGamer1997 1 year ago
Private: During the assault on Fan Castle, the Wu army surrounded general Guan Yu and...
Liu Bei: No! It can't be! Bring me my sword at once! Everyone, begin preparation for war!
Private: I was gonna say he slew Lu Meng and got backache so withdrew.
HawlsOfJb 1 year ago
guan yu dying? dude that is not happening.
DragonDiamondMoon 1 year ago
Thjs js the fjrst tjme I see Lju Bej get angry!!!
sasjn 1 year ago
Can't stand Wu. Bunch of fegs.
SenjiroAkechi 1 year ago
@SenjiroAkechi LOL.
MyUnknown1234 1 year ago
@SenjiroAkechi they are my favorite army, but still it was a dick move
youkhanna1 1 year ago
I guess I can understand what he's going through. I have a brother, and if my brother dies by someone's hands. I would do the samething. You take my brother, I take your life!!!
MyUnknown1234 1 year ago
@MyUnknown1234 he didn't have to throw zhuge liang away like that tho -.-
666Kaca 1 year ago 2
@666Kaca I didn't like that either, but I think that his emotions got the better of his judgement at that moment. He was thinking from his heart not his brain.
MyUnknown1234 1 year ago
@MyUnknown1234 but throwing aside the best strategist in the land and the era just because you're pissed?Wtf i wouldn't even touch him out of respect and out of fear that he might leave
666Kaca 1 year ago
@MyUnknown1234 see how he just walks past zhao yun,he doesn't kick him or toss him aside,he could have done the same with kongming
666Kaca 1 year ago
@666Kaca I agree, but I don't think he did.
MyUnknown1234 1 year ago
random private: Durring the assault on fan castle the wu army surronded general Guan Yu and
liu bei: it cant be. Guan Yu! bring me my sword at once. Everyone begin preparing for war.
zhao yun: No my lord our enemy is wei it would not be just to attack wu.
zhuge liang: Defeat wei and wu will have no choice but to surrender. please reconsider.
liu bei: None of that matters to me anymore. None of you under stand my pain. i must do it for my brother. Wu must pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lordvimless 1 year ago 17
ALL GLORY TO WEI!
movinfoward 1 year ago
@movinfoward
NO! ALL GLORY TO WU! HOME OF THE HONORABLE AND THE PYROMANIACS!
AnimaTempli101 1 year ago
@AnimaTempli101 lmao. they dooo like their fire. ^o^
movinfoward 1 year ago
@movinfoward We just get bored really. And fire and red uniforms really go well.
AnimaTempli101 1 year ago
Liu Bei was being an unskillful leader by letting his emotions cloud his judgement which sadly led to his death
xxqbHizO 1 year ago
Liu Bei was being very unskillful by letting his emotions cloud his judgement.
xxqbHizO 1 year ago
i through in dynasty warriors 6 what i got that GongSun Zan said to Zhao Yun Liu Bei? He And I Were Students He Was Very Gentle then Liu Bei said Just Gentle?........No Theres Something About Him and i see him snatching the sword and ignoreing Zhao Yun even in DW6 he said on the mission at the end off Chang Ban he said Zhao Yun Come With Us and he like just joined shu i wonder what would happen if he didnt come with them i wonder to meself myself
fuzzymummy 1 year ago
Angry??? Lol he looks more like a walking zombie with no
emotion. Dw6 was better bcz it had the accurate version of
his reaction. Sadness and shock, plus Zhang Fei's anger
at conviing liu bei to seek revenge
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
zhang fei was assassinated by his subordinates, who wished to defect to wu. but they were executed for fear of shu retaliation
scrtwpnx 1 year ago
I hate how this all turns out. Liu Bei and Zhang Fei die,
This is what happens also when Liu Bei get's ticked PEOPLE PAY
ag3458hg 1 year ago
lool!! I love your comment about Xuande writing Emo poetry XD
raph009 1 year ago
When the metal plays, you know someone is gonna die.
BiasedGuy123 1 year ago
@onepiece69 He's a bit more upset in the DW6 one though.
AnimaTempli101 1 year ago
I like everything about Liu Bei; his good nature, his wonderful qualities, and his kind heart. But there's just one thing I hate about him. I mean, like just because Wu and Wei killed Guan Yu, that doesn't mean to seek revenge. Even if Lui Bei succeeded in getting his revenge, Guan Yu will always be dead. ( And News Flash, Liu Bei: If you try getting revenge over Wu, doesn't that mean also killing your wife, as well?)
VNvideos13 1 year ago
@VNvideos13 nope, when she married Liu Bei left wu for him if you ever get tosee dynasty warriors 6 he tells her that hes sorry and she replies that she left wu for him to join him.......yup
omgpeanuts 1 year ago
here he go again...
dw4gamer33 1 year ago
Yeah yeah, Liu Bei. Just shut up. Go lock yourself in a closet and stuff yourself with twinkies. Oh right, TWINKIES WEREN'T INVENTED BACK THEN.
XiahouXiao 1 year ago
lolLiuBei. Yeah, send the biggest most worthless jackass to defend a place, then get pissed when he dies, and you still have the much better, much more humble general/brother in Zhang Fei, and when he dies, IIRC, Xuande didn't give a shit.(Then again, he died shortly after. Again, IIRC. Been a while)
brocklock09 1 year ago
LIU BEI IS GAYY
XiahouXiao 1 year ago
Before the war stared liu bei and cao cao were friends like really good friends but now they hate each other
PokemonCardMaster626 1 year ago
Soldier:The Surounded Guan Yu and..
Lui Bei: It cant be.. Guan Yu *bangs Fist*
Soldier:what they shaved of his beard
luzxun 1 year ago 25
@luzxun lol
chelo88888 1 year ago
@chelo88888 What can i say. I love that beard
luzxun 1 year ago
@luzxun
Perfect reason to go to war
XINKAI 11 months ago
@luzxun Liu Bei: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
anotherguttersnipe 11 months ago
If I could just mention something on mrbeates comment, it is true that they never allied, Shu and Wei, but play the game because they had help getting revange in wu, who help them then? It wasn't Wu because thats who Shu was against. lmnon00b5, you on the other hand have a point to your side of the story, shu asked for help to take on wu consider that Wu's Army is freaking insane in numbers plus with the aura around Sun Quan, looks like a fucking Super Saiyan! Point being, you both have facts
Saviorofsages 1 year ago
Shu did not get help to fight Wu. Wu temporarily alligned with Wei so that when Wu is fighting Shu Wei don't come south and smash Wu. Shu and Wei never allied, thats true. Shu and Wei are arch rivals. Wu was like neutrals, they say they are against Wei and friends with Shu, but turn their backs once an opportunity opens.
mrbeate 1 year ago
They didint turn their back at oppurtinity, they waited YEARS for Shu to stand on their
word and give the Jing Province to Wu. They waited and then when Shu took
Yi Province Shu didint act on their promise.
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
@Imnon00b5 They turned their back on Shu. Though i agree Shu should have returned it. Wu literally destroyed Shu when they took Jing and the battle that came afterwards at Yi Ling. Remember, Lu Su lent it to Liu Bei, Liu Bei didn't just take it, Lu Su lent it.
mrbeate 1 year ago
Yes Lu Su did promise Liu Bei ownership to Jing but on an agreement. Sun Quan had kept his word for years and was still working onthe allaince by even helping Shu with taking the Yi Province by invading He Fei.
its like a loan if you loaned me 15,000 dollars and you wanted me to pay you back in 1 year, would you not be annoyed if i never paid you back. And then it turns out i get a new high paying job and i make 15k a month. and i still refused to pay back. Excactly what Shu did.
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
@Imnon00b5 How would Sun Quan invading He Fei (WEi) help Liu Bei take Yi zhou? You are wrong. Liu Bei invaded Han zhong and captured it. Lu Su sent Lu Meng to capture Ling Ling, Gui Yang and Chang Sha, and was successful. Liu Bei told Sun Quan he would give Jiang Xia, Chang Sha, and Gui Yang if Sun Quan invaded He Fei. And Sun Quan accepted, and regained the 3 and also invaded which he lost. Your last part was irrelevant to what im saying. You said Liu Bei snatched it NO, Wu lent it to him.
mrbeate 1 year ago
First of all Liu Bei was struggling when taking Han Zhong and when Cao Cao took his main force to fight Wu, a few generals such as Zhang He were left to defend Han ZHong. Liu bei said that and he did indeed but wtf Sun Quan wanted all that was rightfully his.
Liu Bei did snatch the Jing Province when Zhou Yu defeated Cao Ren. Sun Quan did not want to break the alllaine with Liu Bei ( at that time) so he lent them the province once Liu Bei captured the Riverlands. Did Shu do that? Nope
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
@Imnon00b5 Your information is incorrect. Xiahou Yuan was left in charge, after his defeat and death on the field, Guo Huai and Zhang He defended YangPing. Cao Cao came to Han Zhong, and pulled everyone out of it. Liu Bei heard of Lu Su' attack on the 3 commanderies and went to move to Gong An. Afterwards, he made the agreement in which Quan would take JiangXia, Changsha, and Gui Yang, if Sun Quan would invade He Fei, so Liu Bei can stabilize Han zhong.
mrbeate 1 year ago
Yes excactly which is how Liu Bei got more reign into Han Zhong. Also i thought you said Liu Bei only had Nanjun?
But then of course obviously he sent Guan Yu and Zhang Fei too keep on the assult, after Zhou Yu sent his forces. And like i said if Sun Quan wouldve acted it wouldve ruined the whole allaince.
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
@Imnon00b5 Fair enough. Yes Liu Bei only had Nanjun, the southern cities. Zhou Yu got Jiang Ling, Jiang Xia and the more northern cities. But after his death, Lu Su took over and lent the rest of Jing to Liu Bei.
The agreement was , when Liu Bei took Yizhou he would give back Jing. Wait... what side am i on and what side are we on?
mrbeate 1 year ago
This argument is the that Sun Quan had a right to atatck Shu because fact liu Bei had was shallow enough to not go on his decision to give back Jingzhou.
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
@Imnon00b5 Of course, Sun Quan had the right to take back Jing. I just think that when they took Jing, and defeated Liu bei two years later at Yi Ling it crippled Shu. Wu needed Jing only for security for their capital, and resources. The manner in which they took Jing from Shu weakened Shu immensely.
mrbeate 1 year ago
Ya well theres no longer a need for an argument lol we bopth of now reached terms... the only thing i can really say is nothing :P
Imnon00b5 1 year ago
@mrbeate Shu started to slowly crumble when Guan Yu was slain.
Nightshade323 1 year ago
@Nightshade323 No, Shu severely weakened when Jing was taken and later defeated at Yi Ling. Wu devastated Shu's forces in Jing and Yi Ling without much casualties while Shu suffered heavy casualties and losses which they can not have recovered from.
mrbeate 1 year ago
@Imnon00b5 Second paragraph... Uhh noo, your going by the novel = historically inaccurate. Historically, Liu Bei only got Nanjun. Zhou Yu gained the rest, and stationed in Jiang Ling. He left for Wu to see Sun Quan and discuss either invading Cao Cao's northern cities or invading Yi Zhou by a joint attack with Liu Bei. On the way back to Jiang Ling Zhou yu died. Lu Su took over an lended Jing to Liu Bei.
mrbeate 1 year ago
I find it amazing how like warriors like these ppl could take out 30 ppl with one blow lol but this is one of the best games ever but I'm a little pissed ooff how they made the 6th where eveyone uses almost spears
Rusty293able 2 years ago
Look at the guy giving Liu Bei his sword, he runs like a bitch as soon as Liu Bei takes it from him :p
Sarezh998 2 years ago
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I dont understand why people like this cutscne more than dw6
In the novel it describes Liu bei mourning and crying. He grieves at the death of Guan Yu.
In this one all we see is Liu bei who barely knows how to walk
Also if you just rate down my comment without replying it proves you really dont have anything to say to my argument therefore you deep down inside agree with me
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
a bite tick of liu bie is pissed
Fossialfang 2 years ago
keep clicking 0:50 haha
michaelmyer1 2 years ago
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budugen 2 years ago
who is the name of the backround song?!
XxHisoka86xX 2 years ago
Fate Corrodes me - Dynasty warrior 5 music
chaosyda 2 years ago 7
@chaosyda epic
chelo88888 1 year ago
i dont like wu because sun jian was so action and he aways thought he is a tiger
SasuNaruize 2 years ago
No he didint that was a gimmick made by dw
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
I dont understand why people like this cutscne more than dw6
In the novel it describes Liu bei mourning and crying. He grieves at the death of Guan Yu.
In this one all we see is Liu bei who barely knows how to walk
Also if you just rate down my comment without replying it proves you really dont have anything to say to my argument therefore you deep down inside agree with me
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
Imnon00b5 I agree, KOEI made Dynasty Warriors 6 the most accurate game out there, and people think this is what really happened. Liu Bei, and I read about this, Liu Bei and Zhang Fei were grieving about Guan Yu's death. Zhang Fei isn't even in this cutscene! And If anybody thinks otherwise, you obviously haven't read the novel. Go ahead, rate this comment a thumbs down, but if you don't believe this is true, you are not a REAL Dynasty Warriors fan.
Coldplay1999 2 years ago 24
Excactly ppl be rating comments down without even actually talking about it :D
Besides Yi Ling theme in dw6 is better to :D
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
Yeah loll I agree yi Ling theme in dw6 rocks xD
Coldplay1999 2 years ago
@Coldplay1999 i think they did a very good job on #6 guan yu was the glue that held them both together guan yu was the older brother and the second oldest was zhang fei was like the middle child and they always look to the oldest for guidance
themajormotokok 1 year ago
@themajormotokok Actualy Liu Bei was the oldest, He was designated older brother in the novel followed by Guan yu and then Fei. Histiricly, their was no oath of brotherhood. it's just a romantic invention for fiction.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@vguyver2 hmm interesting so the oath didn't exist never knew that learn so much every day ^^ im looking for resources any suggestions on the best places with usable accurate info? if so pm me plz thanks in advance
themajormotokok 1 year ago
@themajormotokok the best known source is the historicle work "Three Kingdoms History (Sanguozhi)" by Chen Shou. Chen Shou was a Han-Shu officer who later served Jin after the end of the thre Kingdoms. Afterwords he compiled records and wrote a historicle literate of the events in history, mostly unmarred by fiction. For example you'll learn that Guan Yu did not in fact kill Hua Xiong, but it was actualy Sun Jian in history, but the novel has it as Guan Yu.
vguyver2 1 year ago
@Coldplay1999 truly.. DW6 IS the most accurate... you cant see Sun Jian at Chi Bi.. Lol.
lightsidera 1 year ago
@lightsidera I don't even think Sun Jian was alive during the Battle of Chi Bi. I thought somebody ambushed him way earlier.
Coldplay1999 1 year ago
@Coldplay1999 Exactly =3. In DW4 all Wu armies's commander was Sun Jian.. which is weird. In DW6, you can't see him after Hu Lao Gate.. exept for his Legend where.. you are Sun Jian himself and conquer china. RAWR.
lightsidera 1 year ago
@lightsidera actually dynasty warriors 2 is the most acurate, sun jian was only in the 1st 2 battles in that game (yellow turbans and lao gate)
DriftHero77 1 year ago
@Coldplay1999 Are you referring to the novel? This is accurate you know, when Guan Yu died, Zhang Fei was in Langzhong and Liu Bei in Chengdu. Liu Bei got this message first, then Zhang Fei. Zhang Fei then marched onto the capital to grieve.
mrbeate 1 year ago
@Coldplay1999 Zhang Fei should of been it in he was killed later on by his own men but yes i agree he should be in this cut scene
bedsidecargo 1 year ago
@Coldplay1999 agreed
FutureNormal 1 year ago
@Coldplay1999 can u teel me tightl of the book u read that from i woud like 2 read it i`m wont 2 read it (because i like 2 see how accurate koei is)
dandude360 1 year ago
STUPID WU why did you kill guan yu!!!!!!
SasuNaruize 2 years ago
Because he refused to return Jing
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
But for a good and effective cause. Guan Yu's progress on Wei was working well, and then Wu comes in and trashes down Shu's and Wu's chances of doing three prong attacks.
mrbeate 2 years ago
Im sorry but i have talked a lot in this video so plz tell me what you're talking about lol
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
Ummm.... you replied to the guy that said " whyd sun quan attack Guan Yu or w.e" and you said because Liu Bei refused to return jing
mrbeate 2 years ago
Shu wasnt attacking Wei they were defending against Wei and the Wu allaince. All that happened was Wu arrived late. Wu diditn ruin nothing they decided before battle of Fan to punish Shu
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
@Imnon00b5 Shu was attacking Wei on the Jing front. Fan Castle is when Guan Yu attacked from Xin ye area, and was making good progress until Wu took the Jing cities. Guan Yu had no where to run but Shang Yong, Liu Feng did not send reinforcements which could've brought Guan Yu to Shang Yong. Guan Yu captured Yu Jin and nearly won the battle of Fan Castle, he retreated when he heard Wu attacked jing. Wu surrounded Guan Yu at a castle and captured him. Yunchang was executed by side his son Ping.
mrbeate 2 years ago
And why do you think all that happened... because Wu allied with Wei.
Youre whole comment had no significance because all that happened of the allaince with Wei. Wu wanted the Jing Province so they allied with Wei. They allied with Wei BEFORE FAN OR JING
Seriously you wasted youre time telling me something i already knew
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
Dude, you said "Shu wasn't attacking Wei." Shu was attacking Wei lead by Guan Yu. Wu did not ally with Wei before they took Jing. Before Wu reached guan Yu they had already taken Shu cities in Jing by surrender of Shu officers. Guan Yu's defense forces in Jing was light, his forces was off fighting Wei. Wu took this chance to take Jing. After they took Jing, they captured Guan Yu at Mai Castle and executed him.
mrbeate 2 years ago
Wu Allied with Wei only when they heard Liu Bei was preparing for a revenge campaign on them. I get my info from Sanguozhi the historical facts on Late Han, and three kingdoms era.
mrbeate 2 years ago
Wu allied with Wei twice... Fan and Yi Ling with Cao Pi.
Imnon00b5 2 years ago
When Wu allied with Wei at Fan it wasn't really an alliance more like a cease-fire agreement.
mrbeate 2 years ago