PIPER ALPHA DISASTER - Part 2

[Mrjamin100]

man thats so sad

[yt5454]

Why does no one have the guts to say to their boss, "I'm shutting it down, and fuck you if you don't like it!"

[lightningstrike555]

wow those fucking idiots on claymore and tartan kept punping thats the only reason that platfrom sank bullshit i say

[Sukkii25]

oh, it seems like nothing has been learned. BOP failed recently in the Gulf of Mexico, idiots or corporations not paying attention to the training and maintenence of potentially life destroying things?

[hmmhowstrange]

I couldn't even begin to imagine the terror of this.

[odsall]

There can be no doubt that the supervisors on both claymore and tartan, played a significant  factor in the majority of fatalities on piper. That sadly is what happens when you put weak people in crutial positions, and yet again money talks. Someone should have had the balls to cut off the supply, sadly sometimes, and i have experience of this people cannot and will not make big decisions due to fear of losing there job, or criticism from there superiors.

[twistedfocus100]

I bet the people in that boat pissed them selfs @ 6:54.

[soco13466]

I know nothing of the oil business, but the comment about lockouts makes sense. I've worked with dangerous stamping presses, and the #1 rule is: When working on these things, lock them out! I mean lock it out at any point where they can be controlled.

[soco13466]

@soco13466 One more thing: Wire the controls with the relief valve, other vitals, so that if they are not present, you cannot start the pump.

[jamescfc1]

Those poor men. Dead because of some managers' fear of his superiors.

[22slither]

A terrible disaster. It is a real pity that one learns only after such a terrible accident

[ngraha]

Does anyone know who the two men were who tried to get to the water pumps?

[odsall]

@ngraha No but they had some guts. Rip lads...

[MrGregWG]

@ngraha, Looking at Lord Cullen's report just now, it was Robert Carroll and Robert Vernon. Neither man's body was ever found. Incredible bravery.

[BikerBonno]

As is often the case, the wellbeing of lives falls by the wayside to working procedure. Shameful

[answercalls]

You have no idea what youre talking about it is not neglect of the companies but the workers Ive worked on rigs and shit only happens when dumb ass people neglect to use proper procedures such as lock out tag out wich is what happened in this case

[jschanna]

@answercalls - you are partially right although I would not use the word 'dumb ass'. Human factors need to be addressed in process safety. A process plant should have a healthy balance of human and instrumented safety systems to ensure safe operation.

[BikerBonno]

Oh I've got no doubt that human neglegance is what caused it, but keeping a live supply feeding the fire for an hour? And not shutting it down because of what ''his manager might say''. Common sense didn't prevail

[raelarise]

The hazards were reasonably foreseeable, it was poor permiting and fire fighting systems that made it the disaster it turned into. Slow working fire boats and other rig managers assuming that it was under control just added to the loss of life. A real nightmare for the poor guys who lost their lives.

[belladan87]

this is great.. im a law student, advising on occ health safety... such a catastrophic disaseter though :( could have been prevented if hazards were foreseen ..

[kimpoi00]

tnx men! it really helped my report.. reports in paragraph form with so many words doesn't helped me at all.. so thank u for this! really.. (student: taking engineering)

[allsharedfiles]

Firewalls fucking suck they block nearly every game i play

and look what they have done now

[jschanna]

Haha. These firewalls are however are a bit more heavy metal!

[EV150]

Why do people like to sit around and pound their dix and argue on you tube all day?

[LOSERLARRY]

it is the MV Tharos, i seem to remember a small fire on the piper a about 4/5 years previously and the occidental fire team were on the first choppers leaving drill crew to fight the fire...anyone else remember this?

[nottingwood3]

This is so helpful in my studies...thanks for uploading

[ALFWEDARF]

The poor, poor buggers on that platform. Life is more important than cost cutting for piss sake !

[SCANDIN3]

were the 3 rigs piper, claymore, tartan connected or were they on their own when i was a deck cadet i was on a north sea supply ship that went out to the rigs one of them was claymore i didn't realize we were close to where piper once was they died a grusome death

[shinrenx]

So basically this was caused by bean counters.

First, those who decided "meh, we don't need no fire walls"

Second, those who had designed the emergency procedures while leaving out a vital part -- THE BLOODY EMERGENCY.

Thirdly, the type of bean counters who have the audacity to claim that the double-document problem was unnoticed because the men "didn't have respect for the system."

Let's not even go to the bean counters who would have blamed anyone making decisions.

[bitterrdrinker]

Whats the name of the vessel that is to the right of Piper A??

[jschanna]

Possibly Vessel Sandhaven.

I am not certain. Will contact someone in Aberdeen to confirm.

[bitterrdrinker]

does enyone know what vessel the video footage was taken from?? any help would be appreciated

[KaneAlmsivi]

It may have been the Tharos or one of the other supply vessels which I don't know the names of.

[KaneAlmsivi]

The Claymore OIM has the deaths of the bulk of those men on his conscience. It's an appalling example of how one man's fear to affect profit cost more than just money. Thankfully the industry has completely changed as a result of the Piper Alpha disaster. All the energy companies operating in the UKCS now fear LTI's and fatalities more than the peaks and troughs of 1st quarter operating profits.

[jschanna]

For benefit of those who don't know

'LTI' means "Lost Time Incident" in chemicals & process industry.

'UKCS' refers to United Kingdom Continental Shelf

[samwise811]

Sir, if u know other shorten forms in chemical & process industry please add them in comments. (i'm a student). & this video was quite helpful in my projects.

[jschanna]

Send me your email as a personal message here. I will email some stuff then. Good luck with your studies.

[wolf99000]

is this from the documentary that was made about the disaster anyone know where you can download that I would like to watch it

[johnleehutchinson]

My mates uncle died in this he was one of the chef's. Turned his own brother into an alcoholic. ( pleased to say he got better and went back onto the rig's, Takes a brave man) He never knew really got over the loss. This shit affects so many lives its sad. RIP all on the Piper Alpha.

[kiez0o]

hey, i'm 30 now and still devasted. i have 2 kids so i need to b there for them. my dad died on this rig. i'll never get over it. xxxxxxx

[PropJam]

as the value of dangerous materials like oil and gas escalates, so does the amount of red tape, which really starts throwing a spanner in the works when disasters like this happen. red tape must cost so many lives and yet what is industry's alternative?!

I was a kid when this happened and remember well the faces of children around my own age who all lost their dads. Scared me shitless as my dad worked in a chemical plant at the time. absolutely tragic.

[jschanna]

You are partially correct. If you refer to non tech management, Yes. But like anything else, running a process plant has its hazards. We just have make sure we manage them, keep people dressed in stripy suits away!

[spurned1969]

what a horrible tragedy

[MikeGcdi]

read about this in the paper. sent a chill through my spine. it must have been hell for the people on that rig