Hamas maintained cease-fire June - November 2008

[mrkv39]

Why make a distinction between hamas and some groups under hamas' control? Hamas controls Gaza and rockets were fired from Gaza. If hundreds of rockets start landing in US town accross from Mexico, would we care that it wasn't actually Mexican military firing it but some group that is under Mexican control? What difference doesn it make when US cities are being attacked from Mexico?

[wotdoesitmatter]

@mrkv39 Very short sighted. Who said Gaza is "controlled by Hamas"? Hamas doesnt say that. Dont try and equate Gaza with any other country on earth. Gaza is an open air prison under siege. They don't control their borders, airspace or maritime areas. Israel Controls them. Hamas doesn't control what comes in. Hamas has no say in what goes out. btwThis was an Israeli source quoted routinely on the Israeli Government website saying that there are groups in Gaza not loyal to Hamas. Every1 knows that

[wotdoesitmatter]

btw, if those mexicans where getting killed by shelling from the US or killed when the US makes incursions into mexico, I'm sure that there would be groups in Mexico dissatisfied with their countries lack of a response, who would retaliate without their governments permission.

I'm sure if your family was killed, you'd send a thank you note to their killers.

[mrkv39]

@wotdoesitmatter I beleive in the rule of law. If my relatives were killed because my government recklessly fired rockets into another country and than failed to defend my family, I will blame my government. The purpose of any government is to protect its citizens.. if it can't, it should be overthrown. Hamas accomplishes NOTHING by firing those useless missles BUT endanger the lives of their own countrymen and they assign Zero value to their lives and this is their biggest crime.

[mrkv39]

@wotdoesitmatter you need to check your facts. Go to wiki and type Gaza strip. "Hamas seized control of the region following a milita war with Fatah in June 2007". Gaza is controlled by hamas and it is a fact. It is stupid to argue over facts. Just because there are some groups not loyal to hamas in gaza, it doesn't mean it is not responsible for rockets coming out of its territory. While hamas might not control borders, it surely contorls whats goes INSIDE those borders.

[wotdoesitmatter]

@mrkv39 You believe in the rule of law? lmfao- The whole reason the situation is the way it is, is because Israel won't obey international law and United Nations Security Council Resolutions. Don't tell me to check wiki to see the Israeli friendly press comments about Hamas controlling gaza. They're trying to GOVERN it as they WON elections. Control - lol - wiki reflects what the press say and the press are on Israel's side so that's no surprise they use that word.

[wotdoesitmatter]

@wmrkv39 So according to you, Israel should be overthrown. According to you every government should be overthrown. But you have it backwards and to no surprise you have it as Israel doing the retaliating to the provocative rockets. When you have occupied people and their land for over half a century and then punish the people for voting by putting them on a starvation diet, rockets are an inevitable consequence of that. The whold world wants israel to obey the law and go back to their borders.

[wotdoesitmatter]

@mrkv39 So according to you, I can come to your land and simply take it for myself! The police won't do anything because they want to keep me sweet or are too scared. So you resort to throwing stones over the wall I built. I retaliate by throwing a grenade over back at you and kill your family. Well, you shouldn't throw stones! - And that sums up your argument.

[wotdoesitmatter]

@mrkv39 Timeline - Hamas won elections, Fatah didn't like it - Fatah tries a coup on for size, Hamas averts the rebellion - Press reports Hamas controls gaza after forcing out their fatah rivals. But of course you won't open your eyes to any of the facts because your loyal to Israel and that's all that needs to be said on this to you and to be honest, I don't give a rats arse to what you think. You've wasted 20 minutes of my time this morning and you won't be wasting anymore. Ciao!

[antekification]

ISRAEL IS A LUNATIC STATE, HE REJECTS HIS GOVERNMENTS STATEMENTS! RETARDED!

[GaelicSurfer]

A sad day for Israeli propagandists.

Almost like satire.

[ChrisEdwards2004]

The trouble with Zionists is that they believe their own crap.

[ZulyCooper]

dont believe what u see in this video

look at the guys cannel

he only got propaganda videos

[wotdoesitmatter]

Thanks ZulyCooper

Can you define "propaganda" for me please?

[wotdoesitmatter]

Then, once you've done that, tell me why exactly why one shouldn't "believe" what you see in this video?

Yeah, thought so. Comment and run.

[ZulyCooper]

stfu radical allah cock

[wotdoesitmatter]

Grow up.

[Amarx00]

@ZulyCooper

How could people not beleive what they see in this video? where are the special effects or splicing? Or even 'misrepresentations' of the facts? Channel 4 is a fair news organisation and all i see here were the facts.

[darsal123]

long life to Israel!

[darsal123]

how many rockets are enough??? would you like them on your back yard??? Israel has the right to defend itself!

[wotdoesitmatter]

Hamas didn't fire any rockets during the cease fire - still, Israel bombed and killed them. This is offensive and not defenseive.

Yes, Israel does have the right to defend itself, but Israel "defends" itself in the same way as any other brutal occupying regime does against the population it is crushing.

[Ezzedeen01]

I am sorry man, but i had to watch this 5 times.

The Israeli douchebag kept on getting his ass handed to him by the woman.

Needless to say, i had a big grin on my face after the fifth time

[darsal123]

Israel is the reason why you are able to post this comments, because this was invented in Israel, if you want to boycott Israel start by not using computers @ all !

[Justincasey2]

and israel invented the air and mountains and kittens....wake up!... israel did NOT invent the PC you numpty.

[Redcarpet01]

Lol. I thought computers emerged in the Pentagon in the 1960s in the US.

[darsal123]

computers emerged before that in chicago by IBM, but most of todays programs were not there!

[Justincasey2]

...Santa IS real! The tooth fairy owes me fifty quid and zionists are not filthy lying wankernazis!

Can i be the next israeli foreign minister?

[perazh]

HAve u guys heard about myth of "Palestine land"?

see what Bible(The First Book of Moses pbuh) says

"Genesis 10:14 Pathrusim Casluhim which the 'Philistines' descended"

Filistine is what Middle Eastern and Jews call Palestine

In Torah also clearly says when Jews MOVED there there where ppl (Philistinies) were living there.

Palestinians Are Not Arab But Arabized.

Palestinians were living there since human and Sand Co-existed

What about Ashkenazis go back to their mother land in Georgia?

[Tzimnewman4]

Look at this wanker from Israeli Zionist Government. He is such a cunt for trying to hide the facts which Israeli Governmnet say they have released to the public!!!

2:20 - Listen to it again and again until you understand what YOUR Governmnet is telling you!!

[Tzimnewman4]

Those 20 rockets which were fired were not from Hamas during the cease fire!!

Everyone has access to weapons its lawless since they are not allowed to run a state.

Israeli Governmnet accept that Hamas did not fire any rockets during the cease fire.

Its very clear but you seem to stupid to know better!!

[Tzimnewman4]

"Like this very sad fact which places all past claims of suicidal bombers into the garbage heap where the lies belong."

Fuck off you peice of shit! First there is Video evidence to back up my claims!!

Second, you are against Humanity so your opinion means nothing Zionazi!!!!!

[RabbitNexus]

Listen to this lying sack of pus!

When a former minister behaves like this, is it any wonder the Zionist scum on Youtube are no better?

If it comes from a Zionist, it is a lie!

[oceanbound222]

Zionists are EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL

[Tzimnewman4]

1:42

This piece of shit askes the reporter if she wants the facts or invent them.

Clearly it is the Israeli Governmnet which is inventing facts!!

[connielane]

He is doing what Israelis do best....LIE!

[trance2307]

She ripped him apart :D

[nzooloo]

This is very strong and convincing proof how ridiculous the claims of Israel and its apologists are when they say the massacre in Gaza was simply an exercise in "defending Israeli citizens".

THANKS for putting this material together! Forward the link...

[hamdyasem]

The Palestinians are human. They're not dogs you can beat into submission. The worse you treat them, the more they'll fight back. That's what it means to be human.

[jaysta5]

what news network is this?

[LAZDERVIS]

eines tages unbedingt!..

[Saladdin65]

They tricked us with Iraq = it was exposed!

they tricked us with Gaza = it is exposed!

I have heard that it was even planned long time before to attack GAZA in order to get elected in Israel elections!

95% of the jewish people in Israhell supported this terrorist raid in Gaza Ghetto by the terrorist state of Israhell!

[Eitan4092]

just because you're not shooting rockets doesnt mean your not acting in a criminal and terrorist way.

stocking up on missiles, building elaborate underground tunnels, setting up traps to catch idf soldiers. israels attack in november was necessary. even if it break the "cease-fire". israel will stop at nothing to prevent its people, and they don't care if the media or anyone else is against them.

[Saladdin65]

there is no thing as preventev warfare. according to international law terrorist stae of Israhell is guilty for breaking seize fire and invading GAZA Ghetto, which was even besieged.

By the way we have heared so many lies by terrorist state of Israhell.

I would not wonder when this claim that HAMAS was digging tunnels is just a fucking lie like all you Zionists say when you open your mouth.

It's propaganda like Hamas is using human shields!

ALL LIES

[bbproductionsLA]

This is very different from the way American journalists discuss the Palestinians and Zionists

[PalestineWillPrevail]

Yes it is, it's because the United States media is controlled by Zionists and you have millions of brain dead americans who believe what they see on TV instead of making their own research and seeking the truth. No matter, Israel has been exposed and soon I hope it will get judged in front of the world.

[mrkv39]

@PalestineWillPrevail you need to be brian-dead american to support palestinians. Palestinians sided with Hitler during WWIII, sided with USSR during the cold war, sided with Saddam during Desert Storm, and bought hundreds of thousands of bin laden posters.... why should US support Palestinians? WHY?

[Megiddon]

Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza so the truce was between Hamas and Israel but with the agreement of the other militant factions within Gaza.

Israeli propaganda likes to call the rockets fired from Gaza "Hamas rockets", this links Hamas to terrorism, it's true the soundbite "stop Hamas rockets" appears to have bit them in the arse, although this does not mean the Hamas side did not break the cease fire, or that Israel would be happy for non-Hamas rockets to be fired from Gaza.

[whypatcondellisntfun]

Brilliant! I don't get to watch More4 news at all, but Mark Regev admitting what he did is amazing. Thank you for this.

[Needinaname]

Liar!!!

This is a worse excuse for aggression by Israel than WMD as a reason for invadin' Iraq by the USA.

What a prick!

The world, quite rightly, objected strongly to the Iraq war just as they are objectin' to this so called self defence bullshit.

Israel are wrong. Why do they get away with it?

[Norbury040780]

To the Author - Well done, good researching and delivery of the truth from Israel's point of view as well. UNCONDITIONAL CEASEFIRE - STOP THE KILLING NOW.

[wotdoesitmatter]

All the time we, in the west, get fed information and we don't know where it comes from. It mainly comes from the source mentioned in this clip. When the BBC show charts etc of rocket ranges etc, that's the IICC. Most of it is propaganda.

So an end to all this Hamas rockets as a reason for Israeli agression. Israel's PR machine says one thing but Israel's "facts" say another.

[robbaggott]

Shivan Shalom doing an excellent impersonation of Comical Ali.

[wotdoesitmatter]

Yes, lol, true.

I upped a clip ages ago that I seem to have lost on zvi ravne and jon snow. This interview wasn't as good as that one but the presenter did an excellent job of challenging him.