FraGTaLiTy 4v4 Sanctuary No AAs

[TheCluelessXbox]

@srann Halo of war*

[SoNicHaZSwaG]

People complain of the loadouts in reach bc they cant use them effectively and other people use them smarter and better : D

[MrStephen627]

@srann

MLG + Halo = Halo 3

[CH33KYiZninj4]

@MrStephen627 ...or halo CE or halo 2?MLG was all halos my friend.

[Snowcone542]

@srann So Call of Duty was the first game to have sprint, and Gears of War was the first game to have rolling? And sprinting is commonly done in real life, and rolling is done in real life, although not as often, so no game invented those features.

[545nn]

@srann im with you my bro

[aescoblaze03]

Halo Reach SUCKKSSS

[MrStephen627]

@aescoblaze03

ya i agree halo 3 was just so much more competetive i mean in the halo3 MLG playlist every one would either talk trash or say good game But it halo reach its just every 1 is quiet its no fun not as competetive not to mention every1 in halo reach blows now.

[articsoup99]

@aescoblaze03 no it dosnt you fuck

[ChrisLeNever]

I love this vid !

That's how I imagine playing Reach : no AA, because it's not fun at all, and it's just like a CoD made by Bungie!

I hope MLG rules will not includes AA, because it really sucks!

[rapmetaldemon09]

@ChrisLeNever

MLG rules include two loadouts at this point, DMR or NeedleRifle, and you get frag grenades and Sprint for both. The only loadouts on the map are jetpack on Sanctuary, Reflection, and Countdown, and Evade on Sanctuary, Reflection, and Zealot. Originally there was Armor Lock and Hologram, but they changed those. Also, Zealot and Countdown have snipers, which I like alot! and 3 beatdowns to kill as opposed to 2. Jumping, gravity, and running is increased, and no tracker as always

[ChrisLeNever]

@rapmetaldemon09 Yeah, I saw it with the MLG V2 gametypes!

Sprint and Evade are not really bad, unlike the armor lock^!

At this point, we just need more symetrical forged maps^^

[Sean117343]

sucks how u need to sit on the flag. Is this LAN? Or is your connection incredible?

[NICKTASCHYAN]

AA stands for sprinting ??? or Spawn time please help im lost =[

[THlSlSSAL]

@NICKTASCHYAN

Armor Abilities which include sprinting.

[KaMaCaRz]

Oddly enough, even though I haven't played for well over a year and you say it felt slow, it still looks a lot faster than most of Halo 3.

Although I haven't read up about it, the map (Warlock remake?), also looks like a decent one for competitive play simply on the merits of this video.

[taylor1hp]

Is it just me or did u quick re spawn at 7:02?

Im guessing you edited it but idk....

[EXSQUADEX]

Hmm no AA's in MLG, seems like a great idea. Evade in MLG? Seems new and fun but overall would be a disaster, not a bad one just one like at the 1st lan being like WOW i should not have put that shit in. BTW message/friend invite hentai FTW on xbox live for some Reach MLG customs!

[InSaNeTeeJay]

Use the [SPRINT] to get through!

[xPonked]

Is it just me or does it look like Bungie noobified the sniper? Are all the bk brigadiers going to be able to actually use the sniper now? I hope they didnt make it easier to use...

[rapmetaldemon09]

@xPonked

yeah : (

the headshot radius had to be increased, to decrease the effect of host in Halo, the headshot radius for host is decreased, as to even out the playing field for nonhost players

[MajorSilvaa]

This looks completely fine to me.  Maybe you just hate it because you played with AAs first?

[sack0061]

is it just me or is that flag return radius WAY too small?

[tkzdeathclan]

@sack0061 It's just you.

[sack0061]

@tkzdeathclan your a fucking dumb ass then, you literally have to be on top of it to return the flag

[tkzdeathclan]

@sack0061 ever played Halo 2?

[kylemalter]

the respawn times are way too fast

[exitoftheend]

No respawn delay?

[RiggityRush]

There is only room for one AA in MLG and that is sprint...Anything else added is unnecessary. Sprint is what Halo needed and will definitely speed up the pace of the game.

[solidblood]

is it possible to get on top of ring 3 in reach's sanctuary?

[CSistrunk91]

@srann Cool story, bro.

[4ceawsome]

Can someone make a gif of the new sniper reload and send it to me

[AustinAutry]

I felt evade was too much to be honest. I think sprint would play well but i don't know yet i still need to play the game and experience all the AA's.

[I1KonArtis1I]

its funny that everyone is an expert on what this game needs to be better..LOL

[bobdaggy]

@I1KonArtis1I exactly, the thing is, this game is incredible already in it's own right. stop trying to compare it to previous halo's and make it competitive for what it is.

[adantesoup]

This is SO MUCH BETTER than evade. It's pretty fast paced when compared to Halo 3. I think sprint could be incorporated depending on the run speed options, but evade is WAY too much.

[illf4ted]

This looked like H2 before the patch was done... That being said I want Reach with AA's, preferably sprint. But Evade is fine. I am just more Biased to Sprint. 110 Sprint?

[malcolmlowe900]

this map is too big for no AA's. Maybe they should make that judgement for individual maps, although all of the maps I've seen so far have been huge.

[xGreenf0x]

I just think most of you dont want AA's because you dont want the game to change to drastically, i mean god for bid something gets done to the game where a team like say power that has crap slaying ability but excellent team work starts to suck again.

[xGreenf0x]

heres a thing i remember everyone complained about with sanctuary in H2, if one team could get a dominate middle control down, it was over or atleast that team would get 2 caps, also if the flag made it past sword the cap was all but assured, evade stops all that, makes the game faster, you all say, oh control, watch some Hce gameplay from back in the day, how much control did teams need to win, not much, it was constant movement in CE, it will still take team work to win.

[Freshoffdahoodbro]

what are AA's

[lilaznboy93]

@Freshoffdahoodbro armour ability

[ProXykon]

If Fagtality needs proof that evade is fucking retarded, he should consider the Zealot game where he evades twice and flies across the map. Also, I'd look at the parts of the Sanctuary games where he evades twice and flies through sword to the other side of the map.

"Given that I believe you played Halo 2 during 2004/early 2005, that's not something to brag about." ~ Fagtality

^You're a fucking douchebag.

[VxFUSiiONxV]

AA's?



[lilaznboy93]

@VxFUSiiONxV armour ability

[ickayR]

Jtagged?

[McGeezle]

The pace was fucking fine. Why do people want Red Faction on crack?

[12Crazynate]

i think it looks so much better without AAs...if it feels slow just increase the speed

[BoxM1]

@12Crazynate It looks better, might not play better. If a lot of people do end not liking evade after actually playing it, then I would say at least give us sprint. I think you need a better pace just for the fun factor. There will always be tactics, just with different speeds the tactics change.

[Beamer22]

Loadouts will make online unbearable.

This looks like H3 with hitscan and no bullshit netcode errors. IMO that will make an excellent game.

[sKenZzo]

fuck aa there bullshit keep mlg original

[GeneticRealityFilms]

I fucking love how at 2:30 his Teammate Parried the Sword, thats gonna be so satisfying when i rape the camping bitch whos holding it

[iszwins]

Now this is real Halo. Look at the ring control, the team pushes, the overall increase in organization. That evade shit was stupid as hell, no control, no positional awareness, everyone just rolled around the map the entire time and it made for a helter skelter run and gun game. PASS on AA's.

[psyclone1993]

I like the melee reset now there won't be people just running around meleeing everything ,people that only played H3 are gonna be really bad at Reach.

[BoxM1]

Evade might be fun to play with, but it makes you feel carsick to watch. That's probably what you get for getting the game early, no one can relate to how the different gameplays feel to actually PLAY! Plus people don't like too drastic of change. It's not familiar enough to what they know as halo, even if it is fun. 

[Paine1010]

So... What happened to respawning at 4:41-4:43. 1 second respawn?

This game looks so stale after evade has enlightened me. I wish I could unsee evade.

[Bones0]

Next thing you should record is 150% + Sprint, Jetpack, Holo, Camo loadouts!!!

[Overdosage]

I don't have anything against AA's that increase movement options, just the ones that slow down gameplay, like Armor Lock.

[CydronixFTW]

try sprint next...

[BeAreEss]

This looks like the same pace of Halo 3, which I personally wouldn't consider a bad thing. Looks fun. Thanks for all the uploads, Hans.

[iTzVergil]

Try 110% percent speed with Evade. That way it won't be as crazy far. But I do agree we need AAs. The pace of this game was way too slow.

[bigjuicefolife]

Again, please no AA's in MLG. I thought the pace was fine.

[youngemaan]

Game looks soo much better than halo 3. by the way i didn't like halo 3

[WrathofHunhau]

I believe the evade is going to be a 1st week patch do to laggy servers and the speed at which they run.

[MikeVbud]

Halo 1 had the BLB/TSK

Halo 2 had the BXR/BXB/Double shot

Halo 3....had nothing. Hence why it was so boring to watch AND play, it was simply the same thing over and over again. There was no defining factor to separate the good players from the bad.

In my opinion, armour abilities should be included into Reach, to mix up the game play a bit. However, the way evade was used in earlier videos was pretty ridiculous, it was way too fast, and covered way too much distance.

[bobdaggy]

@MikeVbud soo... the only way for a halo to be fun to watch and play is if people can master glitches?

[MikeVbud]

@bobdaggy

Well, Halo 3 wasn't fun.

Although they were glitches, they added depth to the game, just like AA's could add depth to competitive Reach.

[shawnstubbs360]

SEXY QUALITY!!!!!

[RaptorIGN]

If MLG played larger maps sprint would be a must, but on the maps they play no AAs would probably work best. I'd still really like to see another vid with sprint though, the biggest problem with evade with the physics stuff when you go over ramps, thats just not usable in MLG.

[TheProfessional000]

evade may be a lil bit faster but imo this looks way better. moving around doesnt look sluggish at all the the pace of the game looks fine. The evade looks like garbage

[zehBrutal]

Faster gameplay = A more skill dependent game. I support Evade, strongly.

[KasXtoR]

The pace looks perfectly fine, and btw you need to put down the sniper

[cooldude12w]

If this isn't proof that AA's make the game better I don't know what is.

[Stopcyingf0lks]

@cooldude12w OR

[faizanslash1235]

armor abilities are part of reach, we should use them!!!, the game looked slow, and it wasn't as fun to watch without evade

[solidblood]

how do they have reach already?

[EhhhJay961]

the pace is fine frag,chill the f**k out

[faizanslash1235]

is there an option for touch return?

[bigjuicefolife]

No AA's in MLG. Please no AA's.

[LoliciousXD]

gameplay is good but needs some minor AA. ppl that arent competitive and dont go to events dont know how much AA's help the games pace. with AA's it feels like halo 2 but with a little more speed which i like since i found Halo 3 too slow. with evade, i think its good but a little too fast slow it down to 110% n it should be ok imo. But our opinions dont matter, whatever MLG says goes in tourneys.

[SzrZx]

DMR has 15 bullets now

[lilbabycguy1387]

Without AA's looks like it will add a lot more teamwork/team related positioning which I liked. I'm leaning towards no AA's. AA's are probably more entertaining but less focused on smarts/strats and more focused on individual performance. It's just preference to how you like the game to be played at this point.

We need a vid of 8 good kids :P

-InFury

[homemadepie91]

Using armor abilities is fun, so obviously they have no place in mlg

[fallllofreach]

I still like evade

[ProTeamHKS]

guys this is for mlg not random playing. this is how it should be in mlg

[Bloodlustian]

@ProTeamHKS Agreed - The only one you should be allowed in MLG is Sprint, and even that is a push

[Gnabepro]

@Bloodlustian even that is a push, explain how Sprint would hurt the game in any way, you kids have no clue what your talking about, and are the same people who said Shadowrun looked terrible because you could teleport, turned out to be the best and most skillfull console fps since H1, Sage Merill implements similar features into Reach, and balances them and you kids dont even want to give them a chance, you make me sick.

[Bloodlustian]

@Gnabepro I never said that sprint would hurt the game, i said that MLG would only consider Sprint. It was even mentioned in passing by Shockwave and Puckett at Raleigh this year. All other Armour abilites are fine for the general game. Social and what now, but i play Halo for the MLG Gametype. And Imo MLG would be destroyed with anything other than sprint.

I also object to being refereed to as 'Kid' Last time i checked being 22 didnt make you a kid -.-

[wifi32]

@Bloodlustian i think camo should be a pick up aa, i believe that would work fine.

[xxlongshotxx100]

I prefer the use of AA's such as was the case with the previous match. Much more fun to watch albeit a tad sloppy. However evade may either need to be tweaked via customization settings, placed on the map as an item to be fought over or removed entirely. Or maybe just replace it with sprint and call it a day.

[H2sGhost]

It looked a lot slower and wasn't much fun to watch without the AA's to be honest. The gameplay was still great but it just seemed to slow. On another note since you have played the actual release what do you think of the sniper? Is it different from the beta?

[HuGiv5]

i think they sould have Sprint... Well witouth AA´s looks better .

[Dante2066]

No evade makes the game so... slow.

-Anesthet1k

[gmire]

Way too fast and sloppy..

[MMmadmaxMM]

@gmire That's what she said

[ikanonmedia]

srs i just want to know how you got this game

[4LackOfaBetterNam3]

wow, thats twitchy aim axl toggle???

[normcm]

Honestly? The pace of the game seems faster because you don't have people escaping from their deaths left and right.

Show us two TS games, one with evade and another without. I want to see what it's like without an objective to push for.

[BrooneyH2V]

With AA's I could see 4v4's end up like Quake paced game. :D

[StigmatiX]

I hope MLG doesn't take your advice Frag.

[kilerden]

This is boring without AA's Though i'm a bit unsure if evade is the better one or sprint. Without it's allot slower.

[mdr625]

Please MLG, don't put AA's in. Having them out will not make the game slower it will just feel like every other halo game. AA's will change the whole flow of the game too much IMO.

[FiR3CaP3]

I think that MLG should let you pick your AA...but I don't know how each plays... and Frag, does Reach still have the tie beatdown for sword?

[DeuceisLegit]

Arguably Sprint is the most fair and balanced AA to use. 

[daacklete]

Game looked much, much better without AA's. I think you got so used to evade that the game play seemed slow to you. I still watch as much H2 VoD as I do H3 and that seemed to be a pretty good pace in comparison. There was tons of action you were in a lot of fights, got flanked a lot etc. I think the reason you like Evade may have to do with the teams you have been playing on have been stacked in your favor, the opponent can not match you guys in skill. every game has been lopsided.

[HansNfranZZZ]

@daacklete It was as slow as pre-patch Halo 2. Given that I believe you played Halo 2 during 2004/early 2005, that's not something to brag about.

[ProXykon]

@HansNfranZZZ

or you're just a fag

[RaptorIGN]

@HansNfranZZZ What does a games age have to do with the speed? There were console FPS faster than any halo game well over a decade ago. The idea isnt to make the game as fast as possible.

[xblChiT0wn]

@daacklete Evade makes the game for faster paced. WTH you have the option to move faster, everyone will use it = gameplay faster

[asmileyface199]

I think the obvious next AA to try is Sprint. Then if it still feels way to slow then Evade will be the way to go.

[frasercc88]

lan?

[SHAD0WD0G]

did you try subbing mauler for shottie? (i forget if mauler is in reach or not)

[Highlaw]

Try sprint now.

[iSnip3tality]

What's an AA?

[Werem1dget]

Is quickscoping easier in Reach, or what? Sure there were a few missed shots here, but overall I've seen a lot of impressive quickscopes, and not just from players like you. It kinda looks like there's stronger aim magnetism on the zoom, and maybe like it's easier to time.

[srt8up4shot]

@Werem1dget Yes.

Sniping is a lot easier in general n reach for some reason. And if you used the snipe in the beta a lot you most people would get a lot of quickscopes.

[UltimateShinzo]

Some sprint GPs, yeah?



[bunniesz23]

Look at that "overpowered" shotgun :p

[iJayD]

yeah heaps keen for sprint.

[Chenstrapftw]

Frag, i wanna see a vid with sprint as well.

[LMFAOKraziiBear]

i love these vids!