Ihr habt noch vergessen darüber zu reden wie man das mit den Waffen sieht. Ihn Amerika hat doch jeder auf'm Land eine zu Hause... Das mit den flugshows kann ich aber überhaupt nicht verstehen, finde solche Shows nicht toll, war aber auf noch keiner und denke nicht das ich was verpasst habe. Ist doch reine Waffen Propaganda...
we should refocus on the old and proven formula of the trans-atlantic partnership, like when germany and america worked much more closely together,when we managed to bring the soviets down together, when we had the reunification made possible in the first place because pres. reagan paved the way for that! let`s not forget about all of those things, just look at how everything has changed to the worse these days, as we whine and argue about each other, others(e.g. china) get to benefit from it.
@SchizoSystems helmut kohl had the help of reagan who basically paved the way for it and the general terms of the unification, i`m not saying that someone could stop it, however that it was done without war is the remarkable thing, and that was in large part thanks to the reagan administration keeping the soviets at bay and thereby preparing the framework for it to happen.
@CHUUMPASS I know it's a bit late but I just read your comment and I have to say that the biggest part of the reunification of Germany was Gorbatschow, the soviet president, and his politics in the 80's 'Glasnost' and 'Perestroika'. It's only because of him that the reunification became something imaginable.
And Kohl's and Reagan's importants comes after him.
@ninjaXladyXjae gorbatschow was certainly a factor no doubt,but you clearly overstate his role here!he had no other options but to say"yes"to it,other than massive military interention and thereby bloodshed.by that time he already had his back against the wall, so he was just smart and good-hearted enough to avoid bloodshed!but the real groundwork and foundation for all of it to happen was laid by reagan`s policies!he made it possible that the soviet union couldn't afford to say"njiet"any longer
@CHUUMPASS I know Reagan began it all with his SDI program, sth that costs a lot of money which Sovietrussia never had as much as the USA, so Gorbatschow did something those befor him would have never thought of, opening up, which effected the whole USSR.
That's why I think of him as that important, but of course everyone has his share of importance and in the end everyone was suprised how fast and peacefully the reunification was.
if it wasn't for America enabling germany to get back on its feet and quickly re-establish its industrial basis and a growing vibrant economy (the french and british were nervous about this after WW2 and opposed it as opposed to America who helped and favored it) then today germany wouldn't be where it is. just look at what the russians did with their part of germany the "DDR" or "GDR" in english, many germans unfortunately tend to easily forget things like these and are very ungrateful. shame
@CHUUMPASS i am very thankful for what america did. especially since i know what could have happend if the russian french or british got to choose what to do. u can be proud of how much more humane america was at that time then all the other countries. but dont get too overproud thats what gets everyone mad ;)
I understand that it could be difficult for a German to be patriotic. For instance, when I was in Germany I bought a German flag (don't know why, just did), and when I came home my grandma didn't like me having bought one. She asked me to put it away. Luckily, I could explain to her that those times are really over and that the contemporary German is very freundlich und gemütlich!
I am German, and how many other Germans I was always proud of my country. We Germans have much reason to be proud of Germany and its people. Only we have not shown it! The Hitler era is an evil dark spot in our history. We were ashamed of the atrocities that have happened. But we are not ashamed of our soldiers, who were the best in the world. Only Hitler and his assholes are despicable. Nobody has to tell us that we can be proud of Germany, we are.
The word "Patriot" (same in German :-) is really looked down upon - We think that only a person who has nothing to be proud of, can't do anything to be proud on glombs to being proud of their country.
I can understand why many germans would not like the military or wars, after the disaster of WWII. They lost a big part of their home land with about 12 million expelled, many women were raped, they were ethnically cleansed in many parts of eastern and central Europe, millions had to do forced labour and were killed after the war, they had to pay big reparations, etc. Even today they don't have a completely sovereign country.
youre right, German has a broken System, no question there are nice technologys, but what can u do with them when theres no good system ?
The justice is so bad too, you must see, a murder sued a police officer because the officer threatened the murder torture, in front of the court, he won and got 3000€, thats wrong what they do.
I'm also from germany, but when I see that i only can shake my head because something like that makes me sad when the good people who want save people are punished
German patriotism is growing fast in these days and i really think that Alex doesn't much about German Military & Technology. ;-) He is great but there are guys who knows better. Don't forget that German Military-technology is def. world class.
@doutdesful1 our pirate party is coming and then it will all get better XD hey ho free songs on the internet^^ legalize wheed^^ free bus and subways^^ hey ho aarrrrrrrrrr
since a few months you dont have to go to the military in germany. you can if you want but if you dont want, you just have to say no. you dont even have to do some zivildinst (social work) instead.
i think our political system and right system is by far one of the best in the world.
think about death penalty? we are not in medival ages. stop the crap, seriously whats wrong with you?
@headshooter44 Get your facts straight first of all. An AC-130 is an airplane used for carrying cargo. Second of all, it's Iraqi, third of all I spent 5 years in the USMC and never killed a "poor Iraqui child". I killed those who were trying to kill me. Now take that nonsense somewhere else.
@Thrawn6211 1. i mean an armed ac 130 with that gattlin gun and stuff
2. there are plenty of cases were civilians were shot and it was clear that they are civilians. (just look at wikileaks)
3. i apreciate that you killed some terrorists, but there are others in the usmc and the army that kill just for fun. im talking about those triggerhappy freaks who hear "let the bodys hit the flore" via the team radio in a tank and who think that all moslems and iraquis are terrorists.
@Thrawn6211 also i dont like how the americans promote their millitary and spend hundreds of billions instead investing a bit more in the education of the people. manny americans are stupid as bread. and cant even read and think europe is a country where they speak french.
I think Germany has it right. We are too militaristic. Why is it that we have a far greater military budget than the rest of the world? Do you guys remember when you see the old videos of the Soviets when they are parading their missiles and tanks through Moscow? We do the same thing just to a lesser extend when we, for example, fly two fighter planes over the Super Bowl.
mir persöhnlich geht übertiebener partiotismus ziemlich auf die nerfen... es gibt viele staaten die sowas machen, u.a. die usa (besonder in filmen) also solche filme, in denen am ende die moral ist dass egal was passiert dieses land über alles und jeden gesiegt hat...
ich will hier nicht allegleichsetzten. es gibt sehr viele normale amis, und es sind mit sicherheit mehr ignorante menschen in deutschland als da, aber es is wie imt rtl... es gibt immer mal wieder leute die sich das zu ernst nehmen
@123Onkelzfan123 ti tatsache das viele menschen glauben vorurteile seien auf alle eines volkes oder einer ethnischen gruppe anwendbar ist ignorant... ich will nicht wissen wie vile dem provokanten rtl beitrag zur gamescom geglaubt haben! es gibt hier leider zu viele leicht beeinflussbare menschen.. die gibts überall
Warum sollte ich Stolz auf die Tatsache sein, dass ich geboren bin? Bzw. auf den Ort? Ich kann nur Stolz auf etw. sein, was ich geschafft....erreicht habe.
Wenn man vor allem bedenkt das Deutschland eine Firma ist, da kann man auch kein Nationalstolz aufkommen lassen!Ich sag nur Bundesrepublik Deutschland GMBH!
Und die Eigentümer von der Firma Deutschland USA und UK sind.
I would rather say the problem why germans arent patriotic is that many people still associate germans with nazis. and this is why most germans got problems to be patriotic.
@stonee206 not necessarily... we support the troops because they are risking their lives for a cause that is beyond them. Of course we don't want war. I wish I could stop it... The thing is... I cant..
I support the troops but not the ILLEGAL wars that are fought under deceit.
It's TWO separate things. Supporting the troops is very different from supporting an illegal war. Some people always want to make the two interchangeable . It is not.
I'm not a german (obviously) but I think that german people people should definitly be proud of their country and proud to be a german. I mean, I don't really understand all the reasons behind why they wouldn't be, but you guys have such a rich, amazing culture and y'all are hella smart. Who gives a fuck about the damn nazi's. If it really bothers y'all that much, look at the bright side YOU GUYS ALMOST TOOK OVER THE FUCKIN WORLD!!! That's almost cool.
So long as Germany does not have a valid constitution, it is not a state. The Constitution of 1913 is valid. But this one is not active. But there are many Germans they don't know this also!
@spoekenkieker1 HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! I just googled what you said.... AND YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! Wow, i never knew that, I wonder why they don't teach us that in school? I always thought it was a country. Well, they can still be proud, just proud of their non-countryness? Idk. Thanks for that bit of info though. : )
yes,, the same problem as in Germany. Many people think, that the German history startet at 1933.
But the real History is much older. (By the Way) Hitler was not a German, he comes from Austria.
The Nazi Bandits in 1935 changed the constitution from 1913 with the (Ermächtigungs Gesetz) enabling act.
The 1990 reunion was also controlled by the victors.Germany today is still not really confident.The 2 +4 Treaty in 1990 is misleading.This is a legal fact
What a nonsense! Our (the german) constitution - the basic law- is proven as functionally. The regulations of the Basic Law has been interpreted in thousands of verdicts of the highest german court - the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany.
Do you know the verdicts of the Federal Constitutional Court have a status of law??
@spoekenkieker1 France is a weak Country and germany has alway proven that it is suporior, in economic, sport, military, they even try to copy our school system.
England has NOTHING to say these days in europe, Germany is the leading force of Europe, england is more and more isolated and it gets weaker and weaker..the independence of Scotland is also coming. Over 60 mill people in America are german, or from german descent, WE MADE YOU. ITS 2012 YOU REDNECK WERE YOU LIVING AT?1
americans have a different perception of patriotism, we can hate the president and the war, yet love our country and support our troops at the same time.
The main problem is that people in other countries associate our military with the peoples wishes in our country when, only a few powerful people (most of which have never been in the military) make all the decisions. Americans like myself hate war because, we clearly know it has an adverse effect psychologically and on the economy. Support the people and the military not the politicians.
If you want to KILL someone, kill your treacherous politicians! Our debts are increasing and increasing, and yet they're STILL taking MORE loans! For this, I think, the death penalty should be legal. High treason by politicians.
How many more financial crises need there be? HOW MANY? It will never end.
People need to realise most germans hate there history, there counrty was almost ruined by the nazi party so they try to hide it from the next generations
@bigbillbob88 Only because of the war though. The British did the same things as the Germans for far longer but we never got defeated and occupied in a major war so we were never made to confront the things our country did the same way the Germans did.
@OnTheBaobabbaum ich fühle mich ja zu einem gewissen Grad dafür verantwortlich , deswegen habe ich auch geschrieben das wird verhindern müssen das so etwas noch einmal passiert, aber schämen ist das falsche Wort .
@OnTheBaobabbaum n aber ich muss mich als junger Deutscher nicht schämen . Für was muss ich den schämen ? Ich habe zu der Zeit nicht gelebt und brauche mich für nichts zu schämen denn ich und allgemein die letzten 1-2 Generationen haben keine solchen Verbrechen an Juden und Schwulen begangen und ahbend as auch nicht vor !
@OnTheBaobabbaum z.b. die staatliche Sozialpolitik die vom deutschen Kaiserreich als ersten Staat in Europa ( ob in der Welt weiß ich nicht ) eingeführt wurde während der Industrialisierung zu einer Zeit in der Kinderarbeit normal war (z.b. in britischen Minen) . Ich habe doch nie behauptet das ich mit diesem Teil der Geschichte nichts zu tun habe o.0 .Das was dort passiert ist war schrecklich und darf nicht mehr geschehen und das müssen wir (damit meine ich alle menschen auf der welt) verhinder
As a german I can tell you: We like our country, but we wouldn't call us patriots, because we think that others may think that we were proud of what Hitler has done... That's our problem...
@regyreg22 I, as an American, would not link you being patriotic with the history of Hitler. I know this is coming from just one person, but there are many Americans that believe the same way as I. As many Americans that claim patriotism would not want to be judged solely off of Bush. I think the time has passed for people to judge an entire country based on the events of over 70 years ago. Be proud of what Deutschland is today. =)
@DemokratieCo actually more recent numbers go into the 240000s. There are 140000 soldiers in the german army but there are also air forces and navy. And in soldier/overall population comparison, Germany has a larger military for the nations size. Compare 80 million in Germany to 340 million in the US. Where Germany has 240000 soldiers and the US has 1.1 million. Well maybe it comes up to the same ratio.
Americans of European descent are Americans by choice. Yes, we are happy and grateful that our ancestors had a place to go. I have Huguenot ancestors who had to leave France. I have German ancestors who chose to live elsewhere rather than stay put and die. The America they came to was then a British colony, but when that became intolerable, they and their sons joined the fight for freedom. Patriotism is my tribute to them for the sacrifice they made.
@olbi88 Also laut einer studie wächst das nationalbewusstsein deutschlands seit 2006 immer mehr an statt nur noch 40 % sind jetzt 66% unserer bevölkerung stolz auf deutschland (auch wenn sich die meisten wohl nur auf sportliche erfolge beziehen)
Patriotismus ist in gegebenem maße notwendig stirbt doch die kultur aus
@0790ryan i am proud and a patriot ! and all of my friends and dudes ! the most young people doesnt care about ww2 and holocaust ! cuz they didn´t done that shit !
@olbi88 What's what I thought but I must of been confused from what Alex said. Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately people still think of Germany as being nazis to this day. Hopefully one day people will quit being so ignorant.
@OnTheBaobabbaum you love your country because its them who have given you what you have, in america its your freedom, or thats what we see, we also love the fact that we get to be a part of history, just simply by contributing to your society
i find germans are loyal to the city they're from. i've got a verry good friend from germany and she doesnt even like her language, neither does she understand why i think she should be proud of her country. she's from hamburg and is very proud of this though.
its sad, i hate britain but i love it at the same time. my country and i have a love hate relationship which is cool. so maybe its a similar thing with germans being proud of the city they're form but not the country?....complicated issue
For the longest time, The Germany military was the American military, The victors of ww2 made good sure that "Germans" thru " a steady stream of propaganda aka education" would be sissified and into the wusses they are today.
@OnTheBaobabbaum Germany still has one of the highest life standards in the world, provided by hard working Germans. Germany has an excellent health system compared to the UK or expecially the US. Sure u don´t love your country ? It is who u are and your home, simple as that, stand up for yourself and show some pride.
The United States has changed alot in the last 10 years and many americans really are not very patriotic these days. 8 years of George Bush will do that to you.
I'm glad I did not have to do military service. If I had had to go, I would have refused to. And not because of WW2. It's for 3 reasons: 1st. This country and its laws suck. Dying for something you do NOT support would be insane and stupid. 2nd. Nationalism is stupid. How does it help you when you're DEAD? 3rd. Taxes. Military spending is a big part of our budget (€31.5 billion) and I do not support it.
@ah9786 Bush tried to do a whole bunch of things that would've greatly bennefited the U.S. Only problem is, none of them had anything to do with government spending and what the democrats consider "fair"
@ah9786 no we love our military we just really have a hard time trusting politics (with good reason EX: Bush and Dick) and are getting tired of this "War" we still love fighting and blowing shit up but only if really amounts to something other wise we are just pissing away the lives of our military members.
It´s a part of our history too, but why should we be ashamed? Noone else on the world is. England was for centuries the most racistic nation and tortured the half world and killed only in India 30 mio people. Are they ashamed? We Germans suffered the same during the war, the Nazis were very ungerman compared to the history before.
We have monuments for the jews everywhere, we learned from history!
And I´m again proud of my land, I loveit with all good things and mistakes!
You can´t get the idea, because patriotism is a feeling. And you´re proud to be part of Germany, as a father can be proud about his son, when he did sth. great. I love Germany, it´s an old awesome cultur land and still the one of the top countries of the world!
Natürlich kann man das, weil man stolz darauf sein kann, Teil von etwas zu sein, z.B. einer Schicksalsgemeinschaft mit gleicher Kultur, Sprache und Geschichte....also einem Volk.
I've always had an interest in german history, looking in from here in Britannia. I'm surprised the country is anti-military - I can understand yes, but before World War 2, Germany - And before that, Prussia, were very military-centric in thinking and glorified the whole idea of the military. Meh.
You are right about that, but if (especially elderly) people think of the military, they think of WW2, war and other horrific things like bombed out (german) cities. But I think it isnt too bad, to be anti-militaristic...
Tell me just one reason why to be proud on any land?! Just becausee on is born in a certain country is not enough to be a patriot. And as long as you yourself haven't done anything for your country you shouldn't be proud of the country. You may be proud of some people thta lived there or still do, about the system or whatever...but about the country itself...i just dont get it
You can´t get it, because it´s a feeling, there are people who feel connected to a country, it´s traditions, the landscaped the spirit of a land! You feel like a little part of the a huge being. Scientists said, that Heimat (home/ homeland) is something essential and important for all people, it´s your identity!
Ja, und manche sagen, es ist der Ursprung von Hass und Fremdenfeindlichkeit. UNd beide Seiten haben Recht. Allerdings identifiziere ich mich eher über das was ich bin, als über das was andere vor mir getan haben.
If there were no draft in Germany, then there would have about 100 soldiers. Because everyone knows the Germans are tired of getting their ass handed to them again.
Thanks:) ill see what i can do i am going to work in a ompany thats also in america and ask if they nedd people in america so i dont think i can decide where i can live:)
When I think about being a German patriot - I do not think of the second world war or the nazi regime - I just block that out. Instead - I'm proud of the German Holy Roman Empire, the Kingdom of Prussia and West Germany standing against Communism. That is what all Germans should be proud of.
Sorry, aber du kannst als Deutscher nicht einfach sagen, dass du stolz bist deutsch zu sein....
Du musst einfach präzieser sein, was du meinst.
Ich bin stolz auf unser Grundgesetz, unsere Demokratie und unsere pluralistische Gesellschaft. (und bis1999 war ich auch stolz auf die Flagge, weil kein Krieg unter Schwarz-Rot-Gold gefühert wurde) Aber dieses stolz um stolz zu sein find ich etwas seltsam!
Da ist einfah zuviel in deutschem Namen pasiert...
@HMJoker78 Ich bin stolz ein Deutscher zu sein, weil wir eine über 1000jährige Geschichte haben. Während dieser Zeit haben wir einen Copernikus, Gutenberg (Buchdruck), Dr. Martin Luther, Immanuel Kant (Philosoph), G. W. F. Hegel (Philosoph), Schiller, Goethe (Dichter), Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, R. Koch, M. Planck, W. Heisenberg, H. Geiger (Geigerzähler), usw. hervorgebracht. Diese Menschen haben auf ihre Art die Welt genauso verändert wie Hitler & Konsorten. Zählen ihre Leistungen gar nicht?
@HMJoker78 Meinst du Hitler? Naja, man verbindet ihn aber mit Deutschland, obwohl er Österreicher war, weil er u. a. deutscher Reichskanzler war und mit Nazi-Deutschland diesen verbrecherischen Krieg begonnen, geführt und verloren hat. Und wen meinst du noch?
@HMJoker78 Wer ist denn von denen kein Deutscher? Manche von hinen sind Österreicher, aber die sind nunmal deutsch, sonst würden sie ja kein deutsch sprechen.
I am American and I am extremely Patriotic about Germany. If people start saying " Nazi " I just say There is a lot more to Germany than what happen 60 years ago.
@92Anniebananie its right so i mean i am a Germanican :D german and american i living in germany but was born in the US and German history isnt just a jew massacre and the holocaust the german history go´s back to the romanic times and befor.
es nervt mich immer so wenn alle sagen öhh wir haben des in den köpfen was vpor 60 jahren mal war dann kann man auch sagen die ammis haben 15 mio Indianer gekillt und die engländer und franzosen haben 3 welt länder ausgebeutet und sind mit verantfortlich dafür das die heute so arm sind und neben bei wir deutschen haben 3 völker morde in 100 jahren aufm buckel und? die regierung entschied sowas wir das volk handelten nur um unser Vaterland zu schützen
I think the reason why most Germans are not Patriotic or so supportive of their military is because of what happened in WWII with Hitler and Nazism. But generally, the older generation do respect this generation who are currently fighting the war in Afghanistan with the Coalition troops and Nato. WE ALL SHOULD SUPPORT OUR TROOPS REGARDLESS even if this particular war is pointless and we can never win against terrorism!!!
Ich find die Sendung echt klasse, vor allem die absolute Entrüstung bei dem Amerikaner darüber, wie jemand sein eigenes Land nicht mögen kann. Wenn wir ihm jetzt noch sagen, dass es hier Deutsche gibt, die Deutschland sogar hassen und Soldaten bespucken, erklärt er uns komplett für verrückt.
Es ist sicher nicht alles super bei den Amis, aber eine Sache können wir von ihnen lernen: Take it easy!
Im going to live in the US in a couple of years, like some other people from my family, screw germany and its broken system. I wanna be able to wave my countrys flag without being called a nazi! The only time you see german flags in germany is during the soccer world championship! A US flag is in my room now for several years and im still happy it is there!
@SirSanostol, I hope that when you arrive here you'll enjoy your stay. But just becareful of where you live, not because of racism, but because of economy. I recomend, even though it's tempting, to not live in really nice places such as Califorinia, or New York, a better state to live in if you're worried about money would be Texas, Alabama, maybe Florida (not sure though). Do some research if you're concerned, but above all, I hope you feel at home when you come here, and enjoy your stay :)
supporting the troops (military) without linking that with politic seems to be dangerous, when those troops are outside (doing politic of your country)
@ame9903 Actually, it's not. The war was the idea of politicians, not soldiers. Even if the war is wrong, it dosen't mean the soldiers aren't putting their lives in danger. We may protest our leader's policies, but we always support our troops.
hehe, we got Nazis in the U.S., Russia does too apparently. It's a shame that you guys are discouraged from loving your land because of that stigma though. Germans and Nazis are two different peoples. Then again, every country is made fun of someway.
@satanic666sonic maybe in Europe. The stereotype Americans have of Germans is angry and yelling, even when expressing happiness and undying love for another. There are good stereotypes too though. Germans are hardworking and make great engineers, not like their Austrian neighbors who are stereotyped as being freeloading spongers, but are excellent musicians. Although the way things are going on in the world, I feel like Americans are becoming the new Nazis. =_=
@ShwangShwing That's why many people don't have a good opinion about the US or Russia. If a country makes mistakes, it's supposed to be sorry and to be sensitive about that subject. I already heard people saying how stupid the americans are, because they dropped the atomic bomb and they interfere (in a military way) in some political affairs without thinking and make the situation even worse.
I'm not saying that I think this. I think it's prejudices. Unfortunately they get affirmed quite often.
Ihr habt noch vergessen darüber zu reden wie man das mit den Waffen sieht. Ihn Amerika hat doch jeder auf'm Land eine zu Hause... Das mit den flugshows kann ich aber überhaupt nicht verstehen, finde solche Shows nicht toll, war aber auf noch keiner und denke nicht das ich was verpasst habe. Ist doch reine Waffen Propaganda...
lionsoult 6 days ago
@lionsoult
Die beiden haben eine extra Folge über Waffen gemacht ;)
FabianK95 6 days ago
Patriotism USA:58768 Points
Miltary Germany:95694679406793407469465849232365060586593069 Points
FEEL THE VRATH OF ZE WEHRMACHT!
alekzander2010 1 month ago
we should refocus on the old and proven formula of the trans-atlantic partnership, like when germany and america worked much more closely together,when we managed to bring the soviets down together, when we had the reunification made possible in the first place because pres. reagan paved the way for that! let`s not forget about all of those things, just look at how everything has changed to the worse these days, as we whine and argue about each other, others(e.g. china) get to benefit from it.
CHUUMPASS 2 months ago
@CHUUMPASS Don't forget helmut Kohl. The germans wanted to be unificated.. Nobody could stop that.. Not the us, not the soviet union, not anybody..
SchizoSystems 2 months ago
@SchizoSystems helmut kohl had the help of reagan who basically paved the way for it and the general terms of the unification, i`m not saying that someone could stop it, however that it was done without war is the remarkable thing, and that was in large part thanks to the reagan administration keeping the soviets at bay and thereby preparing the framework for it to happen.
CHUUMPASS 2 months ago
@CHUUMPASS I know it's a bit late but I just read your comment and I have to say that the biggest part of the reunification of Germany was Gorbatschow, the soviet president, and his politics in the 80's 'Glasnost' and 'Perestroika'. It's only because of him that the reunification became something imaginable.
And Kohl's and Reagan's importants comes after him.
ninjaXladyXjae 2 weeks ago
@ninjaXladyXjae gorbatschow was certainly a factor no doubt,but you clearly overstate his role here!he had no other options but to say"yes"to it,other than massive military interention and thereby bloodshed.by that time he already had his back against the wall, so he was just smart and good-hearted enough to avoid bloodshed!but the real groundwork and foundation for all of it to happen was laid by reagan`s policies!he made it possible that the soviet union couldn't afford to say"njiet"any longer
CHUUMPASS 2 weeks ago
@CHUUMPASS I know Reagan began it all with his SDI program, sth that costs a lot of money which Sovietrussia never had as much as the USA, so Gorbatschow did something those befor him would have never thought of, opening up, which effected the whole USSR.
That's why I think of him as that important, but of course everyone has his share of importance and in the end everyone was suprised how fast and peacefully the reunification was.
ninjaXladyXjae 1 week ago
if it wasn't for America enabling germany to get back on its feet and quickly re-establish its industrial basis and a growing vibrant economy (the french and british were nervous about this after WW2 and opposed it as opposed to America who helped and favored it) then today germany wouldn't be where it is. just look at what the russians did with their part of germany the "DDR" or "GDR" in english, many germans unfortunately tend to easily forget things like these and are very ungrateful. shame
CHUUMPASS 2 months ago
@CHUUMPASS i am very thankful for what america did. especially since i know what could have happend if the russian french or british got to choose what to do. u can be proud of how much more humane america was at that time then all the other countries. but dont get too overproud thats what gets everyone mad ;)
Felfix 1 month ago
@Felfix i like your attitude ! good to read it man ! but i should tell you that i'm german myself, and i feel the same way in general. greetings. ;)
CHUUMPASS 1 month ago
I understand that it could be difficult for a German to be patriotic. For instance, when I was in Germany I bought a German flag (don't know why, just did), and when I came home my grandma didn't like me having bought one. She asked me to put it away. Luckily, I could explain to her that those times are really over and that the contemporary German is very freundlich und gemütlich!
sikjes123 2 months ago
I am German, and how many other Germans I was always proud of my country. We Germans have much reason to be proud of Germany and its people. Only we have not shown it! The Hitler era is an evil dark spot in our history. We were ashamed of the atrocities that have happened. But we are not ashamed of our soldiers, who were the best in the world. Only Hitler and his assholes are despicable. Nobody has to tell us that we can be proud of Germany, we are.
Kretika 3 months ago
@Kretika
here u can the the Result of a succsesfull brainwashing Proces,
spoekenkieker1 1 month ago
The word "Patriot" (same in German :-) is really looked down upon - We think that only a person who has nothing to be proud of, can't do anything to be proud on glombs to being proud of their country.
idnwiw 3 months ago
I can understand why many germans would not like the military or wars, after the disaster of WWII. They lost a big part of their home land with about 12 million expelled, many women were raped, they were ethnically cleansed in many parts of eastern and central Europe, millions had to do forced labour and were killed after the war, they had to pay big reparations, etc. Even today they don't have a completely sovereign country.
guimuy 3 months ago
youre right, German has a broken System, no question there are nice technologys, but what can u do with them when theres no good system ?
The justice is so bad too, you must see, a murder sued a police officer because the officer threatened the murder torture, in front of the court, he won and got 3000€, thats wrong what they do.
I'm also from germany, but when I see that i only can shake my head because something like that makes me sad when the good people who want save people are punished
Sourc1 4 months ago
recently, you can see television advertising of the Bundeswehr
Landwirtschaftssimut 4 months ago
German patriotism is growing fast in these days and i really think that Alex doesn't much about German Military & Technology. ;-) He is great but there are guys who knows better. Don't forget that German Military-technology is def. world class.
dustyOn3 4 months ago 2
@dustyOn3 the whole german technology is awesome! I am german and i am proud to be a german!
MovieTristan 4 months ago 11
@dustyOn3 What I find really cool, is that a lot of the weapons in the US military are co-developed between US and German engineers :D
GunsOfThePhoenix 4 months ago
@doutdesful1 our pirate party is coming and then it will all get better XD hey ho free songs on the internet^^ legalize wheed^^ free bus and subways^^ hey ho aarrrrrrrrrr
headshooter44 4 months ago
Well not literally
NiteLiter131 4 months ago
Theres an air force base like 2 feet away from my house =D.
NiteLiter131 4 months ago
since a few months you dont have to go to the military in germany. you can if you want but if you dont want, you just have to say no. you dont even have to do some zivildinst (social work) instead.
i think our political system and right system is by far one of the best in the world.
think about death penalty? we are not in medival ages. stop the crap, seriously whats wrong with you?
headshooter44 5 months ago 3
fighting for your country? better name it killing some poor iraqui childs on the street with an ac-130 minigun.
headshooter44 5 months ago
@headshooter44 Get your facts straight first of all. An AC-130 is an airplane used for carrying cargo. Second of all, it's Iraqi, third of all I spent 5 years in the USMC and never killed a "poor Iraqui child". I killed those who were trying to kill me. Now take that nonsense somewhere else.
Thrawn6211 4 months ago
@Thrawn6211 1. i mean an armed ac 130 with that gattlin gun and stuff
2. there are plenty of cases were civilians were shot and it was clear that they are civilians. (just look at wikileaks)
3. i apreciate that you killed some terrorists, but there are others in the usmc and the army that kill just for fun. im talking about those triggerhappy freaks who hear "let the bodys hit the flore" via the team radio in a tank and who think that all moslems and iraquis are terrorists.
headshooter44 4 months ago
@Thrawn6211 also i dont like how the americans promote their millitary and spend hundreds of billions instead investing a bit more in the education of the people. manny americans are stupid as bread. and cant even read and think europe is a country where they speak french.
headshooter44 4 months ago
I think Germany has it right. We are too militaristic. Why is it that we have a far greater military budget than the rest of the world? Do you guys remember when you see the old videos of the Soviets when they are parading their missiles and tanks through Moscow? We do the same thing just to a lesser extend when we, for example, fly two fighter planes over the Super Bowl.
LetsSaveTheRepublic 5 months ago
@LetsSaveTheRepublic and your point is.....? whats wrong with that?
omega1144 5 months ago
@LetsSaveTheRepublic and your point is.....? whats wrong with that?
omega1144 5 months ago
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@LetsSaveTheRepublic and your point is.....? whats wrong with that?
omega1144 5 months ago
mir persöhnlich geht übertiebener partiotismus ziemlich auf die nerfen... es gibt viele staaten die sowas machen, u.a. die usa (besonder in filmen) also solche filme, in denen am ende die moral ist dass egal was passiert dieses land über alles und jeden gesiegt hat...
ich will hier nicht allegleichsetzten. es gibt sehr viele normale amis, und es sind mit sicherheit mehr ignorante menschen in deutschland als da, aber es is wie imt rtl... es gibt immer mal wieder leute die sich das zu ernst nehmen
InMyMindShow 5 months ago 2
@InMyMindShow Warum sollten hier mehr ignorante Menschen sein?
Die Amis gehen mir voll aufn ´Sack mit ihrem Patriotismus, die dürfen das, abér wenn wir patriotisch sind gelten wir gleich als Nazis...
123Onkelzfan123 5 months ago
@123Onkelzfan123 ti tatsache das viele menschen glauben vorurteile seien auf alle eines volkes oder einer ethnischen gruppe anwendbar ist ignorant... ich will nicht wissen wie vile dem provokanten rtl beitrag zur gamescom geglaubt haben! es gibt hier leider zu viele leicht beeinflussbare menschen.. die gibts überall
InMyMindShow 5 months ago
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Stuhlhocker20 6 months ago
Warum sollte ich Stolz auf die Tatsache sein, dass ich geboren bin? Bzw. auf den Ort? Ich kann nur Stolz auf etw. sein, was ich geschafft....erreicht habe.
sab4289 6 months ago
@sab4289
das sehe ich genauso.
MoaenSE 3 months ago
Kill the Rothschilds!!!
Ioulum 6 months ago
Wenn man vor allem bedenkt das Deutschland eine Firma ist, da kann man auch kein Nationalstolz aufkommen lassen!Ich sag nur Bundesrepublik Deutschland GMBH!
Und die Eigentümer von der Firma Deutschland USA und UK sind.
Japolowski 6 months ago
@Japolowski seh ich ganz ähnlich
Chris1141992 5 months ago
I would rather say the problem why germans arent patriotic is that many people still associate germans with nazis. and this is why most germans got problems to be patriotic.
b0bbym45t3rZ2k 6 months ago 3
@b0bbym45t3rZ2k And people will probably associate Germans with Nazis another 60 years from now too sadly.
AlienBeliever897 6 months ago
When we hear americans talking about the troops, it sounds like they support the wars
stonee206 6 months ago
@stonee206 not necessarily... we support the troops because they are risking their lives for a cause that is beyond them. Of course we don't want war. I wish I could stop it... The thing is... I cant..
skinnebob 6 months ago
@skinnebob I said it sounds like you support the war, not that you do
stonee206 6 months ago
haha jiradeli square :P
whatitischief 6 months ago
Ask the German Office for Human Rights.
And u can learn what is a constitution.
deutsches-amt.de/ahk-gesetze.html
Truth is sometimes painful
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
I support the troops but not the ILLEGAL wars that are fought under deceit.
It's TWO separate things. Supporting the troops is very different from supporting an illegal war. Some people always want to make the two interchangeable . It is not.
kakompo 7 months ago 3
I'm not a german (obviously) but I think that german people people should definitly be proud of their country and proud to be a german. I mean, I don't really understand all the reasons behind why they wouldn't be, but you guys have such a rich, amazing culture and y'all are hella smart. Who gives a fuck about the damn nazi's. If it really bothers y'all that much, look at the bright side YOU GUYS ALMOST TOOK OVER THE FUCKIN WORLD!!! That's almost cool.
sezshy 7 months ago
@sezshy
again
Germany is not a country.
Germany is ruled as a company!
The Big Boss is USA, FRANCE, ENGLAND & RUSSIA!
So long as Germany does not have a valid constitution, it is not a state. The Constitution of 1913 is valid. But this one is not active. But there are many Germans they don't know this also!
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
@spoekenkieker1 HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! I just googled what you said.... AND YOU'RE RIGHT!!!! Wow, i never knew that, I wonder why they don't teach us that in school? I always thought it was a country. Well, they can still be proud, just proud of their non-countryness? Idk. Thanks for that bit of info though. : )
sezshy 7 months ago
@sezshy
yes,, the same problem as in Germany. Many people think, that the German history startet at 1933.
But the real History is much older. (By the Way) Hitler was not a German, he comes from Austria.
The Nazi Bandits in 1935 changed the constitution from 1913 with the (Ermächtigungs Gesetz) enabling act.
The 1990 reunion was also controlled by the victors.Germany today is still not really confident.The 2 +4 Treaty in 1990 is misleading.This is a legal fact
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
@sezshy
one more thing
Germany has laws and everything a state needs ..
Germany is more than 70 years Democratically structured and peaceful.
BUT .. Legally, it is not a Sovereign State. Especially since 1990.
We need a valid constitution.
And a real peace treaty with all warring countries.
Only then, we will have a real state, before the nations.
best regard from the company germany:-)
Hope u can read my simple English..
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
@spoekenkieker1
What a nonsense! Our (the german) constitution - the basic law- is proven as functionally. The regulations of the Basic Law has been interpreted in thousands of verdicts of the highest german court - the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany.
Do you know the verdicts of the Federal Constitutional Court have a status of law??
ruhri0411 7 months ago
@spoekenkieker1 And this is what happens when your history teacher is called google. Sorry mate, get your facts straight.
myroots0979 1 month ago
@myroots0979
watch?v=S53sVBt1pq8&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL60FD427AA2B8A9A1
up to 06:55
spoekenkieker1 1 month ago
@spoekenkieker1 France is a weak Country and germany has alway proven that it is suporior, in economic, sport, military, they even try to copy our school system.
England has NOTHING to say these days in europe, Germany is the leading force of Europe, england is more and more isolated and it gets weaker and weaker..the independence of Scotland is also coming. Over 60 mill people in America are german, or from german descent, WE MADE YOU. ITS 2012 YOU REDNECK WERE YOU LIVING AT?1
Thugforlife333 1 month ago
@Thugforlife333
Sometimes appearances can be deceiving
spoekenkieker1 1 month ago
Why should German proud of her country?
Germany does not exist as a sovereign state.
The Allies occupied it.
We have a government imposed by the victors.
We have no real peace treaty.
Learn history!
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
americans have a different perception of patriotism, we can hate the president and the war, yet love our country and support our troops at the same time.
TheEnviroFriend 7 months ago
now, no german has to go to the army....
Quintemaster 7 months ago
well the draft is gone
HeciruaM91 7 months ago
God bless America
jooohnney 7 months ago
The United States was one vote away from being a German speaking country.
Renagade1325 7 months ago
The main problem is that people in other countries associate our military with the peoples wishes in our country when, only a few powerful people (most of which have never been in the military) make all the decisions. Americans like myself hate war because, we clearly know it has an adverse effect psychologically and on the economy. Support the people and the military not the politicians.
GunsOfThePhoenix 8 months ago
If you want to KILL someone, kill your treacherous politicians! Our debts are increasing and increasing, and yet they're STILL taking MORE loans! For this, I think, the death penalty should be legal. High treason by politicians.
How many more financial crises need there be? HOW MANY? It will never end.
hardstyle905 8 months ago
People need to realise most germans hate there history, there counrty was almost ruined by the nazi party so they try to hide it from the next generations
bigbillbob88 8 months ago
@bigbillbob88 Only because of the war though. The British did the same things as the Germans for far longer but we never got defeated and occupied in a major war so we were never made to confront the things our country did the same way the Germans did.
grimblebrumble17889 7 months ago
scheiß amerikanisches militär
1980BoehseOnkelz 8 months ago
@1980BoehseOnkelz scheiß Deutsches Militär
jooohnney 7 months ago
@OnTheBaobabbaum ich fühle mich ja zu einem gewissen Grad dafür verantwortlich , deswegen habe ich auch geschrieben das wird verhindern müssen das so etwas noch einmal passiert, aber schämen ist das falsche Wort .
MrHeidenthommy 9 months ago
@OnTheBaobabbaum n aber ich muss mich als junger Deutscher nicht schämen . Für was muss ich den schämen ? Ich habe zu der Zeit nicht gelebt und brauche mich für nichts zu schämen denn ich und allgemein die letzten 1-2 Generationen haben keine solchen Verbrechen an Juden und Schwulen begangen und ahbend as auch nicht vor !
MrHeidenthommy 9 months ago
@OnTheBaobabbaum z.b. die staatliche Sozialpolitik die vom deutschen Kaiserreich als ersten Staat in Europa ( ob in der Welt weiß ich nicht ) eingeführt wurde während der Industrialisierung zu einer Zeit in der Kinderarbeit normal war (z.b. in britischen Minen) . Ich habe doch nie behauptet das ich mit diesem Teil der Geschichte nichts zu tun habe o.0 .Das was dort passiert ist war schrecklich und darf nicht mehr geschehen und das müssen wir (damit meine ich alle menschen auf der welt) verhinder
MrHeidenthommy 9 months ago
conscription is no longer
Lahmfan247sHalo 9 months ago
As a german I can tell you: We like our country, but we wouldn't call us patriots, because we think that others may think that we were proud of what Hitler has done... That's our problem...
regyreg22 9 months ago 7
@regyreg22 I, as an American, would not link you being patriotic with the history of Hitler. I know this is coming from just one person, but there are many Americans that believe the same way as I. As many Americans that claim patriotism would not want to be judged solely off of Bush. I think the time has passed for people to judge an entire country based on the events of over 70 years ago. Be proud of what Deutschland is today. =)
rosenbaum1981 9 months ago 22
@rosenbaum1981 Tell that the rest of the world. not us ;)
HolgerLovesMusic 4 months ago
@rosenbaum1981 You said that beautifully, thank you ♥♥♥
NiceSaki 1 month ago
Also ich bin stolz auf Deutschland und ich meine es ibt ja noch seh viel mehr in unserer Geschichte als das dritte Reich (z.b. das Kaiserreich,...) .
MrHeidenthommy 9 months ago
140.000 Soldiers Germany....and many more have the US Army....The Ground is a Verbot
DemokratieCo 10 months ago
@DemokratieCo actually more recent numbers go into the 240000s. There are 140000 soldiers in the german army but there are also air forces and navy. And in soldier/overall population comparison, Germany has a larger military for the nations size. Compare 80 million in Germany to 340 million in the US. Where Germany has 240000 soldiers and the US has 1.1 million. Well maybe it comes up to the same ratio.
Aniihya 7 months ago
Americans of European descent are Americans by choice. Yes, we are happy and grateful that our ancestors had a place to go. I have Huguenot ancestors who had to leave France. I have German ancestors who chose to live elsewhere rather than stay put and die. The America they came to was then a British colony, but when that became intolerable, they and their sons joined the fight for freedom. Patriotism is my tribute to them for the sacrifice they made.
drobin3149 10 months ago 2
jeder der sein land nicht liebt ist ein lutscher ! ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein !
olbi88 10 months ago
@olbi88 Also laut einer studie wächst das nationalbewusstsein deutschlands seit 2006 immer mehr an statt nur noch 40 % sind jetzt 66% unserer bevölkerung stolz auf deutschland (auch wenn sich die meisten wohl nur auf sportliche erfolge beziehen)
Patriotismus ist in gegebenem maße notwendig stirbt doch die kultur aus
DemokratieCo 10 months ago
Germans and Americans have a really different view on patriotism...
For Germans patriotism is strongly related to nationalism which is related to feeling superior to other nations which is related to Hitler.
For Americans it is the most natural thing on earth to be patriotic and seen as a feeling of love, pride and goodwill for your country.
mainstreet86 10 months ago 3
@mainstreet86 Naturally, since Americans haven't been fed a large dose of self hatred of themselves and there past.
Cyricist001 9 months ago
germans are not proud of their country because of World War 2? is that what you were saying?
0790ryan 10 months ago
@0790ryan i am proud and a patriot ! and all of my friends and dudes ! the most young people doesnt care about ww2 and holocaust ! cuz they didn´t done that shit !
olbi88 10 months ago
@olbi88 What's what I thought but I must of been confused from what Alex said. Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately people still think of Germany as being nazis to this day. Hopefully one day people will quit being so ignorant.
0790ryan 10 months ago
Wow...that is actually really shocking... I can't imagine not being patriotic.
RatifiedCow 11 months ago 2
@OnTheBaobabbaum you love your country because its them who have given you what you have, in america its your freedom, or thats what we see, we also love the fact that we get to be a part of history, just simply by contributing to your society
Pyromaniac1801 11 months ago
i find germans are loyal to the city they're from. i've got a verry good friend from germany and she doesnt even like her language, neither does she understand why i think she should be proud of her country. she's from hamburg and is very proud of this though.
its sad, i hate britain but i love it at the same time. my country and i have a love hate relationship which is cool. so maybe its a similar thing with germans being proud of the city they're form but not the country?....complicated issue
LadyRavencide13 11 months ago
For the longest time, The Germany military was the American military, The victors of ww2 made good sure that "Germans" thru " a steady stream of propaganda aka education" would be sissified and into the wusses they are today.
Obasiliasfilosofos 11 months ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos Lol, I can't deny that.
hardstyle905 8 months ago
@OnTheBaobabbaum Germany still has one of the highest life standards in the world, provided by hard working Germans. Germany has an excellent health system compared to the UK or expecially the US. Sure u don´t love your country ? It is who u are and your home, simple as that, stand up for yourself and show some pride.
jbravo41 11 months ago
The United States has changed alot in the last 10 years and many americans really are not very patriotic these days. 8 years of George Bush will do that to you.
ah9786 11 months ago 30
@ah9786 It wasnt George Bush, it was holywood & tv brainwashing with conspiracy theories :l
prjerry7 9 months ago 6
@ah9786 /what the hell are you smoking? Do you even live in the USA? Americans are still as patriotic as before... >.>'
Kanoki989 8 months ago 27
@Kanoki989 No where do you live?
pceluvNdorkyness 5 months ago
@Kanoki989 i agree with jim
many americans are patriotic but dont like the idea of people fighting and going to war
Germtalia 5 months ago
@ah9786 Lack of patriotism in the US? Come on....
sdkintheusofa 8 months ago 4
I'm glad I did not have to do military service. If I had had to go, I would have refused to. And not because of WW2. It's for 3 reasons: 1st. This country and its laws suck. Dying for something you do NOT support would be insane and stupid. 2nd. Nationalism is stupid. How does it help you when you're DEAD? 3rd. Taxes. Military spending is a big part of our budget (€31.5 billion) and I do not support it.
hardstyle905 8 months ago
@ah9786 Bush tried to do a whole bunch of things that would've greatly bennefited the U.S. Only problem is, none of them had anything to do with government spending and what the democrats consider "fair"
tommoore2012 7 months ago
@ah9786
In Germany we have Merkel,, that a litle bit the same...-)
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
@ah9786 no we love our military we just really have a hard time trusting politics (with good reason EX: Bush and Dick) and are getting tired of this "War" we still love fighting and blowing shit up but only if really amounts to something other wise we are just pissing away the lives of our military members.
agrowthnerd 6 months ago
Fail at beginning, theres a hamburger on the US site but the Hamburger comes from Hamburg...the americans are just eating more than the germans :)
sawrider856 11 months ago
@OnTheBaobabbaum
It´s a part of our history too, but why should we be ashamed? Noone else on the world is. England was for centuries the most racistic nation and tortured the half world and killed only in India 30 mio people. Are they ashamed? We Germans suffered the same during the war, the Nazis were very ungerman compared to the history before.
We have monuments for the jews everywhere, we learned from history!
And I´m again proud of my land, I loveit with all good things and mistakes!
DerTreue1871 11 months ago
@OnTheBaobabbaum
You can´t get the idea, because patriotism is a feeling. And you´re proud to be part of Germany, as a father can be proud about his son, when he did sth. great. I love Germany, it´s an old awesome cultur land and still the one of the top countries of the world!
DerTreue1871 1 year ago
you ask a german about being patriotic, and you'll get an answer like "long live Turkey" or something :)))
muiebozgorilor 1 year ago
wow, german military is verry similar to norways....only we are patriots, verry much so
Tinnesen89 1 year ago 3
man kann nur stolz auf etwas sein, das man geleistet hat. um deutsch zu sein muss man ja nichts leisten, das ist einfach nur glück.
alterhaudegen1 1 year ago
@alterhaudegen1
Natürlich kann man das, weil man stolz darauf sein kann, Teil von etwas zu sein, z.B. einer Schicksalsgemeinschaft mit gleicher Kultur, Sprache und Geschichte....also einem Volk.
DerTreue1871 1 year ago
@DerTreue1871
ja was hast du denn dafür getan um teil davon zu sein?
alterhaudegen1 1 year ago
There will be no draft after I think march 2011.
klramon 1 year ago 2
I've always had an interest in german history, looking in from here in Britannia. I'm surprised the country is anti-military - I can understand yes, but before World War 2, Germany - And before that, Prussia, were very military-centric in thinking and glorified the whole idea of the military. Meh.
Perilix 1 year ago
@Perilix
You are right about that, but if (especially elderly) people think of the military, they think of WW2, war and other horrific things like bombed out (german) cities. But I think it isnt too bad, to be anti-militaristic...
nosign87 1 year ago
we r rid of the draft^^ ...but i was still there...
Nebukadnezarthe2nd 1 year ago
Tell me just one reason why to be proud on any land?! Just becausee on is born in a certain country is not enough to be a patriot. And as long as you yourself haven't done anything for your country you shouldn't be proud of the country. You may be proud of some people thta lived there or still do, about the system or whatever...but about the country itself...i just dont get it
Ma1992Wi 1 year ago
@Ma1992Wi you are proud of the people in which you work together to make a group(country) that is great
paulinotou 1 year ago
@paulinotou
what? dont get that
Ma1992Wi 1 year ago
@Ma1992Wi
You can´t get it, because it´s a feeling, there are people who feel connected to a country, it´s traditions, the landscaped the spirit of a land! You feel like a little part of the a huge being. Scientists said, that Heimat (home/ homeland) is something essential and important for all people, it´s your identity!
DerTreue1871 1 year ago
@DerTreue1871
Ja, und manche sagen, es ist der Ursprung von Hass und Fremdenfeindlichkeit. UNd beide Seiten haben Recht. Allerdings identifiziere ich mich eher über das was ich bin, als über das was andere vor mir getan haben.
Ma1992Wi 1 year ago
Im proud to be German ;)
JudyFox11234 1 year ago
If there were no draft in Germany, then there would have about 100 soldiers. Because everyone knows the Germans are tired of getting their ass handed to them again.
ObamaLikesKFC 1 year ago
@ObamaLikesKFC
back to school. were not in the 30's, 40's anymore
szeddezs 1 year ago
@tommoore2012
Thanks:) ill see what i can do i am going to work in a ompany thats also in america and ask if they nedd people in america so i dont think i can decide where i can live:)
SirSanostol 1 year ago
Don't forget the volunteer fireservice!
If you don't want the zivildienst or the Military you can go to the fireservice for a few years and you can work in the job you learned
firemann113 1 year ago
When I think about being a German patriot - I do not think of the second world war or the nazi regime - I just block that out. Instead - I'm proud of the German Holy Roman Empire, the Kingdom of Prussia and West Germany standing against Communism. That is what all Germans should be proud of.
TheFederalEurope 1 year ago 2
Sorry, aber du kannst als Deutscher nicht einfach sagen, dass du stolz bist deutsch zu sein....
Du musst einfach präzieser sein, was du meinst.
Ich bin stolz auf unser Grundgesetz, unsere Demokratie und unsere pluralistische Gesellschaft. (und bis1999 war ich auch stolz auf die Flagge, weil kein Krieg unter Schwarz-Rot-Gold gefühert wurde) Aber dieses stolz um stolz zu sein find ich etwas seltsam!
Da ist einfah zuviel in deutschem Namen pasiert...
HMJoker78 1 year ago
@HMJoker78
Zudem gehört Nationalismus ins 19. Jahrhundert.
oldfurniture 1 year ago
@HMJoker78 Ich bin stolz ein Deutscher zu sein, weil wir eine über 1000jährige Geschichte haben. Während dieser Zeit haben wir einen Copernikus, Gutenberg (Buchdruck), Dr. Martin Luther, Immanuel Kant (Philosoph), G. W. F. Hegel (Philosoph), Schiller, Goethe (Dichter), Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, R. Koch, M. Planck, W. Heisenberg, H. Geiger (Geigerzähler), usw. hervorgebracht. Diese Menschen haben auf ihre Art die Welt genauso verändert wie Hitler & Konsorten. Zählen ihre Leistungen gar nicht?
TengriLethos79 1 year ago
@TengriLethos79 Das war gerade meine rede...
und einige der Leute, die du gerade angeführt hast waren keine Deutsche (nach eigenem Verständnis)
HMJoker78 1 year ago
@HMJoker78 Meinst du Hitler? Naja, man verbindet ihn aber mit Deutschland, obwohl er Österreicher war, weil er u. a. deutscher Reichskanzler war und mit Nazi-Deutschland diesen verbrecherischen Krieg begonnen, geführt und verloren hat. Und wen meinst du noch?
TengriLethos79 1 year ago
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VintageJunior 1 year ago
@HMJoker78 Wer ist denn von denen kein Deutscher? Manche von hinen sind Österreicher, aber die sind nunmal deutsch, sonst würden sie ja kein deutsch sprechen.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
I am American and I am extremely Patriotic about Germany. If people start saying " Nazi " I just say There is a lot more to Germany than what happen 60 years ago.
92Anniebananie 1 year ago 48
@92Anniebananie
Yes, you're right. Generations such as ours should stick together. Or we would have war again.
Humans like you and I have nothing to do with the world wars.
dineloh86 1 year ago
@92Anniebananie
Thanks from Germany!
spoekenkieker1 7 months ago
@92Anniebananie its right so i mean i am a Germanican :D german and american i living in germany but was born in the US and German history isnt just a jew massacre and the holocaust the german history go´s back to the romanic times and befor.
SchokiLP 6 months ago
es nervt mich immer so wenn alle sagen öhh wir haben des in den köpfen was vpor 60 jahren mal war dann kann man auch sagen die ammis haben 15 mio Indianer gekillt und die engländer und franzosen haben 3 welt länder ausgebeutet und sind mit verantfortlich dafür das die heute so arm sind und neben bei wir deutschen haben 3 völker morde in 100 jahren aufm buckel und? die regierung entschied sowas wir das volk handelten nur um unser Vaterland zu schützen
SchokiLP 6 months ago 6
I think the reason why most Germans are not Patriotic or so supportive of their military is because of what happened in WWII with Hitler and Nazism. But generally, the older generation do respect this generation who are currently fighting the war in Afghanistan with the Coalition troops and Nato. WE ALL SHOULD SUPPORT OUR TROOPS REGARDLESS even if this particular war is pointless and we can never win against terrorism!!!
ChicReal 1 year ago
Ich find die Sendung echt klasse, vor allem die absolute Entrüstung bei dem Amerikaner darüber, wie jemand sein eigenes Land nicht mögen kann. Wenn wir ihm jetzt noch sagen, dass es hier Deutsche gibt, die Deutschland sogar hassen und Soldaten bespucken, erklärt er uns komplett für verrückt.
Es ist sicher nicht alles super bei den Amis, aber eine Sache können wir von ihnen lernen: Take it easy!
7shinta7 1 year ago 3
Patriotismus kann man hier echt vergessen.
Ich schau das hier weil ich auch vorhab nach der Schule in die USA zu gehn.
Danke für die videos^^
Julchen1311 1 year ago
Man, I really hate that German's can't hang there flag. There should always be some type of nationalism in every country!
WerewolflovesKelly 1 year ago
Im going to live in the US in a couple of years, like some other people from my family, screw germany and its broken system. I wanna be able to wave my countrys flag without being called a nazi! The only time you see german flags in germany is during the soccer world championship! A US flag is in my room now for several years and im still happy it is there!
SirSanostol 1 year ago
@SirSanostol, I hope that when you arrive here you'll enjoy your stay. But just becareful of where you live, not because of racism, but because of economy. I recomend, even though it's tempting, to not live in really nice places such as Califorinia, or New York, a better state to live in if you're worried about money would be Texas, Alabama, maybe Florida (not sure though). Do some research if you're concerned, but above all, I hope you feel at home when you come here, and enjoy your stay :)
tommoore2012 1 year ago
supporting the troops (military) without linking that with politic seems to be dangerous, when those troops are outside (doing politic of your country)
MsAppleeater 1 year ago 2
ich bin ein berliner
fredx93 1 year ago
Saying you support the troops, but not the war is like saying you support the dog, but not its bark. You can't have both.
ame9903 1 year ago
@ame9903 Actually, it's not. The war was the idea of politicians, not soldiers. Even if the war is wrong, it dosen't mean the soldiers aren't putting their lives in danger. We may protest our leader's policies, but we always support our troops.
89diehl 1 year ago 5
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America wins. Europe is weak.
SupremeAmerican 1 year ago
@SupremeAmerican Sag mal, brennst du!? ^^
Raven88able 1 year ago
2006 world cup, some drunken english guys called me a nazi now i hate brits
Weidenalex 1 year ago
@Weidenalex woah woah woah!! some of us brits have german girlfriends and don't even watch football! We're not all Rooney cock suckers..
mytubetravel 1 year ago
wir hatten sowas ja mal aber dan war der Unfall in rammstein mit 70 Toten und 1000 verletzten und seit dem haben wird das nicht mehr
MrTheStolte 1 year ago
:DD
TheRussianLOL 1 year ago
hehe, we got Nazis in the U.S., Russia does too apparently. It's a shame that you guys are discouraged from loving your land because of that stigma though. Germans and Nazis are two different peoples. Then again, every country is made fun of someway.
Americans are warmongers
French are perverts
English have horrible food
Become one with Mother Russia ^_^
Swiss are cheap and eat lots of cheese
Americans inherited England's bad taste in food
LadySeraph 1 year ago
@LadySeraph and the fun they make of germany is : gasing jews, raping other countrys and so on......
compare that to the others
satanic666sonic 1 year ago
@satanic666sonic maybe in Europe. The stereotype Americans have of Germans is angry and yelling, even when expressing happiness and undying love for another. There are good stereotypes too though. Germans are hardworking and make great engineers, not like their Austrian neighbors who are stereotyped as being freeloading spongers, but are excellent musicians. Although the way things are going on in the world, I feel like Americans are becoming the new Nazis. =_=
LadySeraph 1 year ago
hell America has a German U-boat in Chicago lol.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 Yes, I saw that U-boat. It's in the Chicago Museum Downtown. Pretty neat.
reindeertigerteam 1 year ago
@ShwangShwing That's why many people don't have a good opinion about the US or Russia. If a country makes mistakes, it's supposed to be sorry and to be sensitive about that subject. I already heard people saying how stupid the americans are, because they dropped the atomic bomb and they interfere (in a military way) in some political affairs without thinking and make the situation even worse.
I'm not saying that I think this. I think it's prejudices. Unfortunately they get affirmed quite often.
MusicLovingSina 1 year ago
All the World is a Stage 1/5 search
Magraxs 1 year ago