Did God Create From Nothing? (1 of 3) (William Lane Craig)

[MrQuransunnah]

c being a constant number

c/0 = infinity

therefore infinity * 0 = finite amount (1 of the solutions)

it takes an infinitely large force to create something from nothing

[Kingaskong1234]

God, in my current opinion, represents illumination. What i mean by that is, he/she/it is consciousness, and what consciousness is it's the sight of distinction, the feel of distance, and the field of dwelling, basically perception. Darkness/Nothingness represents the default, where the ability of distinction and the threads of the universe of matter are asleep under a pitch black blanket, it is without perception. The black and the white, they're just two sides of the same coin.

[starsheild7]

@Kingaskong1234 You said, "God, in my opinion, represents illumination... Consciousness... Darkness/ Nothingness represents the default... The black & the white, they're just two sides of the same coin"

-I love stories of good vs evil, light vs darkness, creation vs destruction. Here's a point that could clarify it further: with the coin having white & black sides, one might think of the coin being flipped, the flipping may seem randomn (dark) yet a consious (light) person has to flip the coin.

[NoahIV]

A new spin on the Kalam Cosmological Argument:

All things that begin to exist has a material cause.

The universe began to exist.

Therefore the universe has a material cause.

[eidos1975]

@NoahIV

Valid. Unsound. Premise 1 false.

[TheTruthgeneral]

God could not have created everything,everything except himself yes but not everything as that would include himself.

[07Aristotle]

@TheTruthgeneral God has aseity.

[sahandpar]

who made god?

[drcraigvideos]

@sahandpar *SIGH* watch?v=KLclpslxAYY

[sahandpar]

@drcraigvideos

Sigh...

Basically Mr William just said God is timeless and causeless and he doesn't need a cause.

Well, if that works for you as "reasoning" so be it. To me it's far from reason and explanation.

[drcraigvideos]

@sahandpar Dr. Craig said God is timeless because He started time at the singularity, genius. In order to start time you have to be timeless. In order to cause the universe from the very beginning you have to be causeless and beginningless. I mean, duh! The next time you watch a video I link you to, please watch it without plugging your ears, okay? That helps. That's reasonable.

[nanagaga2001]

@sahandpar I find it very interesting that, as Dr. Craig pointed out (you probably missed it) atheists have until very recently asserted that the universe had no beginning, it just always existed. As he says in another video, that was the argument they used to refute the Christian belief that the universe was created and therefore *came into existance* at some point. The tables are turned now and atheists are scrambling to come up with other reasons why God cannot possibly exist.

[nanagaga2001]

@sahandpar I don't know why this is such a sticking point with atheists. If you can postulate God as the greatest conceivable being (for the sake of argument, not necessarily the Judeo-Christian God) , then part of that premiss would be that this greatest possible being would not need a creator. *That* creator would then be the greatest conceivable being. Therefore part of the definition of greatest conceivable being would be "timeless and changeless".

[6630mcdo]

@sahandpar Who made God then? Common question. But it has a simple answer. Philosophers know that something that is the best explanation, one does not need to have an explanation of the explanation. For example, if people dig up Indian arrowheads, then they can conclude it was from an intelligent design. They do NOT need to explain where the Indians came from to determine that the arrowheads were created from intelligent design.

[ITTutorCanada]

@sahandpar "Who made God?" So...... you need an explanation for your explanation? Okay well, have fun in life with that logic you'll never believe a single thing in your entire life. Asking for an explanation of the explanation invokes infinite recursion. You're like a child that keeps saying "but why? but why?" to everything they're told. Just because you can ask the question it doesn't make the question valid, just because you can't get an explanation of an explanation doesn't make it invalid.

[MyFishIsTwonk]

@ITTutorCanada Asking Why isn't childish, if I use a technological example, if someone explains to you how sending an e-mail works, you'll understand it but then you can ask why. Then that person can explain how the internet works, to connect and people using the same software can read/send mail, this down to the bare bones of the making of a PC, this further down to the creation of fiberglass for materials, etc.

[Acuba09]

@sahandpar No beginning no end he is god lord just because we as humans can't imagine it dose not mean is impossible for god he is GOD thanks god bless you

[Twicebakedtaters]

There is no evidence in science that shows there was a point at which "nothing" existed.There is a point at which all laws of physics break down and we have no way of knowing what existed before said bang.

"Nothing" is a myth. The question of a God or gods is another matter. One of meaning....a subject to which science can not speak.

[person1434]

how could god bring time into existence at a certain point in time?

[sinmantky]

Isnt this an argument of pantheism?

[David578593]

I really really feel Ray Comfort should watch this.....

[drcraigvideos]

@David578593 With all due respect to Ray Comfort, he strikes me as the "Richard Dawkins" of evangelists except he's not full of vitriol like Dawkins.

[batistaker123]

@drcraigvideos And Dawkins isn't full of Shit like Ray Comfort so it balances out.

[drcraigvideos]

@batistaker123 Well, Dawkins is full of it. Just not like Ray Comfort, I guess. Dawkins is clueless.

[person1434]

@David578593

how could he bring time into existence at a certain point in time?

[Jayoung1000]

Robert Lawernce Kuhn is a good interviewer. I've seen him interview both sides and he always lets them layout there own view fairly.

[drcraigvideos]

@Jayoung1000 I believe that Craig has done his best interview with Kuhn.

[Jayoung1000]

@drcraigvideos definitely

[M4STRMND]

is it possible that God is the efficient and material cause of the universe? just asking

[acekiller121]

There is no god

[TheVodkaHaze]

Couldn't you be pedantic and argue that the efficient cause of David was the little hammer, and not Michelangelo?

[thickshadesSUB]

not only from nothing, God created "nothing" as well.

[gamer3386]

@thickshadesSUB No god didn't not create nothing he created from nothing that is why we call nothing nothing that nothing is that thing that he did not created and its black side or a black void of nonexistence

[ThickShades101]

@gamer3386 don't confuse nothing with no thing.

[Howie47]

In the beginning, God (expressed himself) out of himself to show himself too subordinate parts of himself. The Bible doesn't say God created every thing out of nothing. Heb. 11,3 " Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

God is the word of God. Jn 1:1, and we live inside of God. Acts 17:28 "For in him we live, and move, and have our being;" Sin separates us. Faith in Christ restores.

[99percentatheist]

@Howie47 From the verses cited it does not follow that,"God did not create out of nothing."

[seanmPWH]

@Howie47 Good response! Have you seen my video "Creation Ex Nihilo Revisited"?

As much as I like Dr Graig, I think he's taking more influence from tradition and the mainstream science community, than the scriptures. He should read the bible for himself, he would find that the doctrine of creation-out-of-nothing is not in there. We all know that pantheism is condemned, but at the same time the bible presents what is know as panentheism. There is not a material / non-material dichotomy. Matt 6:20

[circusOFprecision]

@seanmPWH

Good insights. Eastern Orthodox Christianity seems to understand this. I think this is a problem primarily of western theologians and philosophers. God is in all things and moves through all things. I forget what verse that comes from, but of course I am paraphrasing.

[mattkyle99]

@seanmPWH I strongly disagree. Craig interpreted it the same as I, and many other Christians interpreted it. Genesis 1:1 - "In the beginning God (created) the heaven and the earth". This implies there was (nothing), and then God brought all into existence. I would most definitely argue that the creation out of nothing is stated in the very first sentence of the word of God. Create - 1. to cause to come into being. Cause - to bring into being. God is the (cause) whom then (created) the material.