HD6850 vs GTX460 768MB Crysis & Metro 2033

[PunkBuzter]

i've got a nice fps depending on locations about 30-55 on maxed out Crysis2 with HD testures and DX11 patch.

i have a Gigabyte HD6850OC (oc edition), self-overclocked core from 820 to 850mHz with Gigabyte's "Easy Boost".. too bad they locked the volt so i can't oc it much further though.

but anyways, it's a monster-card for the money!

[ABaNjaProduction]

lol you have same monitor like my dad xDD

[sloma111]

460 got its butt kicked. Suprisingly! :D

[4znKnyt3]

I love your accent.

[Phenom69ll]

But the 6850 is a 100$ cheaper! so the GTX460 is just a bullshit card for that price, you could get a card more than twice performance of a gtc460.

[Imapoorbastard]

lol i had the same Samsung monitor, the led for the standby was really weird,sometimes it went on without any reason and that started blinking and then turned off again lol.

Probably korean communication's to send messages all over the world :P..

And to think i got a XFX 6850 for €80,s when i traded the stock card 6450 in :D

[TheCrummyGamer]

Needs more CPU heatsink.

[Lukq95]

damn, mr strawbery or what ever you call him can talk? :D

[angleisthebest]

The GTX 460 is a piece of shit. Even in this video, I can see stuttering during Metro 2033. I'm going to replace mine with a 6870.

[Tobiash87]

@angleisthebest It's a degraded version. GTX 460 1GB 256bit is the way to go. Gigabyte SOC version is on par with 6870 and GTX 470. But it's hard to find one now I guess. Best bang for buck I could get at the time I was building my gaming PC :)

[angleisthebest]

@Tobiash87 I'm fully aware of that, but it's not the issue. The issue lies with 1) power saving state on any Fermi card, 2) terrible default driver profiles for games and 3) GPU usage drops. And there's still plenty of 460s still for sale, now re-branded as 560s (non-ti). These cards were good when they worked a year ago with 258 drivers, since then they've completely sucked & since almost none of the review sites show minimum framerates, it is only good on paper with skewed averages.

[Tobiash87]

@angleisthebest I am very satisfied with my SOC 460 GTX. Seen so many benchmarks (with minimum fps as well - guru3d.com for good example) since both cards hit the market and I think that GTX 460 is still a overall better card with more efficient shader processors (outperforms 6850 clock vs clock) and generally has higher overclock capabilities. HD 6850 on the other side is awesome for lower power usage and good price. It's a very good card very well worth getting for a gaming PC.

[GAMeEnTHuSiaST1]

@Tobiash87 yea know the best bang for the buck in my opinion would be a gttx 570l. I have 2 and managed 2 overclocked enough on liquid to beat dual 580's be a decent margin.

[Tobiash87]

@GAMeEnTHuSiaST1 Depends on what you call bang for buck, because it really depends what can you buy for your money's worth. GTX 570 is cheap if you make money in dollars or euros. If you live in a rich country you can afford dual GTX 570's easly, but when the money you make is worth shit compared to dollars or euro, you are stuck with budget side of things :P

[ExpertGriefer]

pause on: 04:35

[xblalex]

i can run this high setting 720 p tho lol with a 4670 30 + lol

[xbdiel661]

@xblalex Shader? Particle? Shadows? on MAX settings? lol ;)

[xblalex]

@xbdiel661 lol ....... u no the answer and now i got my self a 6870 :) 

[barkyindustries]

that 768 got really bottlenecked on metro 2033, LOL Fail cakes!

[Jdwill1014]

I LIKE THEM BOTH IM GETTING A HD 6850 there cheaper and my mobo is cheap gonna run 2 in crossfire

[tortoisemark]

is the the 460SE or just normal 460??? and which ine should i get??

[409346]

@tortoisemark 460SE is like a superclocked version and performs better but a gtx 460 can already run alot so whatever you prefer its like 7-15 fps difference

[MW2watchyourback09]

@409346 No, the SE is the watered down version of the 460...

[sloma111]

@tortoisemark se is cropped version - get the real one.

[elmarduk2]

Nvidia sucks Amd HD rules

[AltecGS]

@elmarduk2 They both rule!

[xblalex]

c'mon the 6850 is a faster card in MOST games :)

[metalliholic]

I got my GTX 460 768 for 120 bucks like 5 months ago and it is amazing!

[sbgv]

@metalliholic me too funny hyow they r more expensive now..

[SgtChubb]

Came for the 6850 vs 460 comparison, stayed for the first appearance of Mr. Strawberry :D

[Dankarlpang]

would i be bottlenecking a hd6870 with a Phenom x3 8750 stock clock ?

[TheIdiotscorner]

@Dankarlpang Yes, get any Phenon II higher than the 945.

[fcmiller09]

i wanted to see them run in sli

[daman799]

50C is AVg temps for GPU anything below 80C is avg

[Atomzdan]

Whats the size and res of that monitor

[dondon4720]

But what about in non crossfire

[sameranio3110]

@dondon4720 it is non crossfire O.O

[TheSmashcat]

what is better 6850 or gtx 460 give me the net of the subject ???

[KarlKeule]

the hd 6850 is better then the gtx 460 with 768mb, but a beat weak than thwe gtx 460 with 1gb, but it costs 50€ more than the hd 6850 :)

[TheMcMichael15]

what temperature normal for 6850 cuz my card allways around 50c

[DeliriousSam]

Is the GTX 460 better than the HD 6850?

[lucasdoolaar]

so radeon won? more fps on metro and same on crysis?

[Kaiuchka]

Too lazy to watch- who won?

[wowaccpass]

Awesome face @ 01:22

[marfg12345]

is gamer settings maxed ?

[mezooo2020]

Which type of CPU you used ?

[dixen2009]

It looks laggy

[eminem4everchannel]

nice vid subbed for sure mine card is here in an hour :)

[MrKickyourbutt]

I wish you could tell us resolutions and other settings on the game.

[Halfbakedwar]

Good review thanks

[jonhalda]

So wich one owns?

[roseonly4rose]

so which one is better???

[xFpsPwnagex]

@roseonly4rose 6850 is slightly better.

[SuperKpal]

Cpu coller name ?

[discojockey007]

what is his on 6850?

[discojockey007]

hd 6850 or gt460? help plz :)

[xFpsPwnagex]

@discojockey007 6850 is slightly better for same price.

[rafay321]

Nvidia has lost to ATI in the high end cards category by a considerable margin, specially in terms of power consumption and performance. The last card Nvidia release that had the best price/performance ration was the 8800gt.

[minikup]

OMG! This guy plays with Razer, I can hear the defect sound that it makes when you click it! :D I got the same defect on mine...

[darkspl]

Witch card is better gtx460 or hd6850? Witch card take less energy?

[sxnoss40]

@darkspl 6850 is better at stock frequencies, and uses less power

[MrGaming22]

On Crysis both are the same !!! And on Metro 2033 i have with my gtx 460 768mb much more fps then the guy in the video !!!

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@MrGaming22 probably different config dude.

[t3ckN0g33cK]

@MrGaming22

and that is for the physX if you turn on the physX the FPS down in the nvidia cards because they supports physX and the radeon not

so if you turn off the physX you going to have more FPS on the nvidia card

[MrGaming22]

@t3ckN0g33cK i know that if you turn PhysX off you will have more Fps in games like Metro 2033

[thereddog223]

maybe his monitor is bigger

[angleisthebest]

@MrGaming22 that's pure bullshit.

[dooshtoomun]

I'm planning on getting a HD 6870 later in the year. Hopefully prices will drop

[TheNathlm]

Do you have physx on the nvidias? and what would you buy gtx 460 1gb with a nice oc or 6850?

[rjt197197]

Ok, question. I'm going to buy either a HD 6850 or GTX 460. Both are 1GB models and both cost $209 so what should I buy?

[sxnoss40]

@rjt197197 you know you can get both new for about $140 on ebay right...

[rafay321]

@rjt197197 HD6850.

[rjt197197]

@rafay321 Care to explain why I should? Fucking AMD fanboys.

[rafay321]

@rjt197197 i am NVIDIA fan boy haha. Just check the benchmarks and prices of both companies. ATI beats Nvidia in almost every category these days. I wish NVIDIA could do something about it.

[rjt197197]

You must have a lot of money :|

[bitchslapper12]

You say 5850 when you really meant 6850 (06:31)

[nik6069]

Yellow Cake Uranium ram?

[vybzshakur]

the settings were all maxed besides aa?

[SpyderDevelopment]

Thumps up. You cannot talk about overclocking potential if a card is only 1 or 2 months old. The 460 is older than the 5850, which equals more public stuff about overclocking. So please do not compare a overclocked Card to a Unoverclocked card. If the standart hd5850 is better than the 460, it's worth 20$++, even if you can fucking overclock a 460. I wouldn't recommend the 460: It's Hot, omfg power consuming, briked quote is like 20% higher on a non overclocked 460 than on a hd6850 OC'ced

[SpyderDevelopment]

@SpyderDevelopment sorry for my mistake the first time i wrote hd5850 .. it should be hd6850 ^-^

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@SpyderDevelopment sadly you are very wrong. The 460's are far from hot and when released were the only decent Nvidias around.

[666krypt0nit3]

@TimeToLiveCustoms What ram is that?

[gazzxr]

@TimeToLiveCustoms i have bought the 6850 and it will arrive on Wednesday , will i be disapointed ? I'm playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 , atm , and waiting for Battlefield 3 , playing GTA IV , Need For Speed Shift 2 , Crysis 2 , Portal 2 , Can i max these games out ? AA 2x because i don't care about AA so much i want to max these games out with 6850 and Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.6Ghz , 6GB of Kingston RAM 1600@

Corsair 750W PSU

with 30 - 60 FPS atleast

[dikajenny]

@gazzxr Hi perhaps i can answer your question cos i use HD 6850 Gigabyte OC edition

heres my rig

Procie Phenom x6 1075t @ 3.6ghz

Mobo Biostar 890FXE

4gb Ram Venomrx (this ram is horrible seriously. lol)

and 32" Full HD TV 1920x1080. I can play EVERY game with Highest setting with 8x AA and 16x anisotropic Filtering. and its pretty decent I got 58 Average rate MAXED OUT setting on GTA IV. All games running morethan 30fps at that setting.

[MokilokiD]

@TimeToLiveCustoms Dude , Im not fan neither Ati or Nvidia , but u have to know that FRAPS doesnt count right the FPS , no offence :)

[thereddog223]

yeah the 460 was nice now the 560 is the best bang for the buck for nivida

[Ryd3r22]

@SpyderDevelopment the 6850 is a bit better in most aspecs but the 460 is better in some things too, plus you can get a 460 1gb for like $30 less then 6850 now, by the way im not a nvidia fanboy, i actually perfer AMD/ati.

[stigyo92]

really nice review i like but guys show the settings b4 continuing playing each card presented... :)

[roumanobr]

Hey Tom, I have a 460 GTX SC(768mb version) and i'm looking to go SLI for christmas. I'm not sure because of the 24a thing. Would my Enermax 620W(36a total,2x12v rails at 22a each) be enough to run 2x 460 gtx SC or not?

[NAVIGATORAS96]

nVidia sucks... :P

[aStupidTroll]

the 6XXXs are kickass

[Sssagaman]

Get Gigabyte GTX460 1024MB version!

[NeofirenX]

I guess hd 6850>gtx 460....  :D

[Xuvial]

@NeofirenX For some stupid reason, in this video he's using the 768mb version which performs and COSTS far, far less than a 6850.

GTX460 1gb (which is the standard version) performs nearly as well as 6850...add in their greater overclocking potential and you can get equal performance (GTX460's overclock like a beast, 6850's...not so much).

[NeofirenX]

@Xuvial Actually, the only GTX 460 that overclocks like a 'beast' is the EVGA GTX 460 FTW, which costs a lot more than the 6850.

But there is no doubt the overclocking performance can easily outperform the 6850.

[NAVIGATORAS96]

@NeofirenX if wns gtx 460 then wins only on this game! and if you dont believe me go and see some benchmarks

[Lubotsulat]

Should I buy the Msi Radeon Hd 6850 which cost $230 or the Inno3d 460 gtx which cost $211.Btw these are the only 2 cards i can buy locally so the prices are fixed and i cant buy anything else.I also can't buy online.So which is a better buy?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@Lubotsulat how much mem did the 460 have? The 6850 is a great card if you want to fit it and forget it. The 460 would be better if you dont mind it being louder, hotter, more power hungry and have to overclock it to get the best from it

[pekar5]

@TimeToLiveCustoms hey man great vids, btw what monitor is that?how many inches is it?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@pekar5 look on my channel dude. Its a 2433bw 24" 1920X1200

[skimowhite586]

@Lubotsulat no dude just don't if you goin to buy 230 hd 6850 still dont go with gtx 460 you are wasting money just go with hd 6870 for 20 more dollars and you can overlclock well on it on just go with msi if you want to

[frank141289]

hey we got the same monitor :D nice video mate i always see your videos :)

[pyrorc]

just a question. what do you do after videocards life span is up?

lke say 4850 form a while back. what do you do with it ?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@pyrorc Ive not even got any dude. do you mean what would I advise YOU do with it?

well if you have an old card just ebay it and then buy a new one.

[Swaggerboyyy]

we could be roommates and share pc stuff:):P

[FuntossisBACK]

what do you do for a living! O_O NICE BTW!!!

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@FuntossisBACK this is what I do :D

[Czyerx]

@TimeToLiveCustoms i envy you ç-ç

[fr1ngeTV]

I stopped sleeping with stuff animals when I was 12 but I think I can start sleeping at night with a 6850 ^_^ gimme it now!!!!!!

[SilatGayongTiger]

wow, benchmarks of single card and dual cards and plus at stock and overclocked. Man that is lot of work. I am amazed. Surely, your job isnt one of the easiest one. Thanks for making such a reviews that make our life much easier to buy the product with best value per euro or pound or dollar ;)

Any recommendation on which physx card should I buy for 480GTX? I would love to hear from you.

Cheers

[jordan010203]

HD6870 or gtx460?

[trinious2511]

is GTX460 1gb better than HD 6850 1gb :D

[masik7290]

@trinious2511 yes

[Nunski17]

Do u wanna trade ur room with the gpu's in it against my room?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@Nunski17 probably not :p

[Nunski17]

@TimeToLiveCustoms Sh*t I hoped so much that you would say yes

[meekoman25]

Share the love?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@meekoman25 explain?

[meekoman25]

@TimeToLiveCustoms A giveaway if possible.

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@meekoman25 ha ha ha cheeky buger

[xcox84]

is the 6850 graphics card better in folding than the gtx 460 1gb version? I can not find any conparison on this, can somebody give me an answer on this? Thank you.

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@xcox84 Nvidias have always been better folders dude :)

[Js1oFreestyle]

u lucky man dude,, where u can apply to to also test that electronics?

[crimson177]

the gtx 460 768 is about £130 when the 6850 is much more

[tescofood]

@crimson177

5850 is £133

[TheMoo1231]

@tescofood 6850 is £150+

[tescofood]

@crimson177

6850* sorry

[meeeellar]

@tescofood the 6850's are now £150, same price as a 460 1GB (for the time being) The prices for the 6850 and 6870's went up a day or two after release.

[AgentHydra]

lol'ed at monster getting run over. Just finished looking at the reviews, you guys do a great job. However i'm kind of wondering, now that Nvidia has dropped the prices on the GTX 460 1GB and the GTX 470 to $200 and $260, respectively, wouldn't it be more fair to compare GTX 460 1GB vs. HD6850 and GTX 470 vs. HD6870?

[soxfanant95]

Why does no one understand that there are more games to test than just Crysis? yeah sure its most likely the hardest game to run but that game doesn't prove one card is better than the other.

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@soxfanant95 if you click the link for the full review you will see we have tested all 8 cards on 10 games including overclock and SLI/Crossfire runs. I can make a video for each so just used the versions most people will want to see.

[soxfanant95]

@TimeToLiveCustoms Oh I understand what you mean that you can't show all important games and that wasn't to be directed at you, it was to be directed at all the people who think a card is rated on Crysis.

[galaxything]

jesus dude you do put some work in. this kind of testing / comparing is amazing!

[1timby]

Not to give you guys a hard time as I really appreciate the efforts to bring us such in depth reviews. However, in your most humble opinions did any of the cards display better (color definition, less stutter, smoother game play, etc) than the others? One other thing what about driver stability? Are the new AMD/ATI drivers ready for prime time?

Thanks again for all the hard work. It I was in the neighborhood I would pay for the first pint....

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@1timby If you take a look at the main review you will see a wealth of information for you to go through dude. Out of all the cards I think I must surprised and impressed by the 6850 so far, and the drivers seem very good. Plus ATI have always been better and faster with fixes for any problems.

[1timby]

@TimeToLiveCustoms Tom I went through the review like brown fecal material through a goose. Was just looking for your opinions on the cards. I notice in the first U-tube video you commented on the smooth play of a card. Those are the types of things I'm looking at. So many reviews (from the usual places) show the FPS. While that's important so is game play. Does it stutter? Does the card seem to render well? Thanks for the feedback.

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@1timby In this test if you dont overclock (lets face it most of the purchacers for these two wont) then I would honestly say that the 6850 is a hands down winner. Its so good Im thinking about using it in my 3D HTPC

[ShitWrangler]

@1timby thumbs up, i don't want vanilla presentations where things are left to the imagination of the viewer/reader, far too many other reviews available for that. i prefer a strong stance one way or the other rather then riding the fence. perhaps tiny has been catching grief for offering hard opinions.

[risenwarfare]

at 6:29 you say this is single 5850 XD

[asus3571]

i just recently got an evga gtx460 mostly cause of the lifetime warantee already crapped out on me ill go with gigabyte 470 next

[JoDaddyy]

Is every game at max, besides Anti-Aliasing?

[Blassreiter815]

i think you should show some more dynamic and crazy scenes in the game... i mean walking on the beach or just roaming around with few enemies... = of course you will get good fps..... you should use the snow / alien place under ground.. or boss fight scene.. fps tends to drop a lot in those scenes in crysis

[Snake1979xfire]

Ok this is clearly the 6850 and the 6870 beats the GTX 460's

But why u didnt do benchmarks of Crysis then ? u can see better the results, now he did play the game, but not everytime the same and no results after, so with benchmarks u get a better result.

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@Snake1979xfire this is just a visual aid to bolster the main review on OC3D

[scottycatman]

You seem to have a lot of boxes... can you... send one to me?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@scottycatman hahahahaaaaaaaa

[scottycatman]

@TimeToLiveCustoms

Laugh at the GTX and Radeon-less man

[sendblink23]

What resolution is that?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@sendblink23 1920x1200 its all I ever test at

[Bob8673]

LOL you said 5850 :)

[TJ07Temjin]

what's the length of these 6870's?

[gumberly]

@TJ07Temjin about three hundred and seventy six meters...something like that!

[kylebaja123]

also what happens wth all the products after you have reviewed them all

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@kylebaja123 depends really dude.

[kylebaja123]

@TimeToLiveCustoms do you sell any off them off at a cheaper price?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@kylebaja123 No mate.

[JoDaddyy]

@TimeToLiveCustoms Sorry dude for this stupid question mate, but are you Australian?

[3ne2gy]

@JoDaddyy He's English/British.

[jsnyara]

@TimeToLiveCustoms any old 775 socket mobos i could have?

[TimeToLiveCustoms]

@jsnyara ha ha ha sorry mate no

[jsnyara]

@TimeToLiveCustoms :'{]

[gumberly]

@kylebaja123 he throw's them in the back of his closet.

[kylebaja123]

@gumberly haha id really hope not :( i would love to purchase things he reviews and just doesnt use

[lVleSHuGGA]

is the 460s running with physX on on metro 2033? i didnt hear anything said about that

[0MeNdEz84]

nice video...but how about some settings!!? resolution...AA all that ...!!? would be nice xD

[kylebaja123]

you have a sick job

[madebarriere]

I can see heaven in this video!!!!

[boredphuck]

yeah! perfect timing!

great vid, any chance of a future vid with equal SLI / crossfire configs to see the difference?