doublealufwaffe - that "cheesy quarter note" line your talking about is called comping. It's what rhythm section players do and I'm sorry but its very appropriate.
@gwbehm, perhaps we have different conceptions of simplicity. It appears to me that what Joe Pass does almost till the end of the first chorus of NHOP's solo is not simple in that he is filling up a lot of space with those quarter notes when he could have played one chord for two bars--that would have been simple. But I also maintain that Joe's purposely cheesy accompaniment adds to the performance because it adjuncts another level of communication.
Also: And of course, during the trade offs, While Joe stops for NHOP, NHOP keeps accompanying Joe when arguably the more musical and certainly the most fair thing to do would have been to stop. It is as if NHOP is saying that Joe is too infantile too play all by himself. Finally, that run that Joe plays at the end arguably takes away from the performance. He must have done it to spite NHOP.
Thus, Joe is the initial provoker, NHOP responds violently, and Joe concludes with the last word.
@doublealufwaffe Man i think you're reading into things a little bit too much. If there is some needling, it seems pretty good-natured. They're both smiling at each other at the end, going like "man, that was fun."
@doublealufwaffe hmmm.. you don't know much about music do you? if niles is hatin on joe's style he must not want the gig that bad, it's joe's gig. For the amount of music they play together this one song is a drop in the bucket. All players want to shine so yes they are trying to out do each other. The quater note pattern joe is using he stole from other guitarists. He likes it and gets gigs with it. Why don't you do something less cheesy and take his gigs? and his bass player Mr. critic?
Actually, NHOP and Joe Pass they seem to be in conflict. First, NHOP plays a beautiful rhythm part for Joe's solo, but when its time for NHOP's solo, Joe begins with these cheesy quarter note chords. Then during the bass solo, at around four minutes, and during the trade offs, NHOP plays sixteenths much better than Joe--almost maliciously as if saying "Ha! I play cleaner, faster, and with more facility than you!".
This type of music is an acquired taste, but even if a person doesn't like the sound, I don't see how anyone could watch this and NOT see two geniuses at work.
@theIonliestmonk not true, this piece actually has more ´names´ another one i heard was ´Tractitism´ . on the album ´sound of the trio´from oscar peterson.
if you could read my words properly, jou would see i did not say anything about this being oscar peterson´s tune. next to that i said that it has diffrent names on multiple records .
@theIonliestmonk As I understand it, and I studied bass with an old school guitar player, the tune was originally titled "Tricrotism." The title changed as guys pronounced it without the 'R' in the middle. That was simply do to colloquial styles of speech that most jazz musicians had.
@theIonliestmonk i think it has three titles.. they seem to be playing the notes right haha.. they even do the ray brown slide thing.. niles always sounds like he is playing electric. i think it is his three fingered method, gut strings might help avoid this. i know plenty of folks with gut strings and i really think it is the way you pluck the string and your timing
RIP NHOP
thethinktankchannel 12 hours ago
Is the rest of this concert on here anywhere?
damodrummer1 1 week ago
Just peed my self a little bit.... DAAAAAAAAANG!
lonnyjohnny 4 months ago
i love the two feel that nhop does in the beginning..funky as hell
bballbrotha6 7 months ago
Dans le sens de tricoter sur son instrument
vinlandr 8 months ago
say what you like about are old friend NHOP here but the simple fact he swings like
bitch. They are playing for the simple enjoyment of the music
bgh123bgh 11 months ago
doublealufwaffe - that "cheesy quarter note" line your talking about is called comping. It's what rhythm section players do and I'm sorry but its very appropriate.
gwbehm 1 year ago
@gwbehm, do you mean to say that the only way a guitar can comp is by playing quarter note chords?
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
@doublealufwaffe No,it's not tho only way, but in this case it at least stays out of the way of the solo. Sometimes in music simple is best.
gwbehm 1 year ago
@gwbehm, perhaps we have different conceptions of simplicity. It appears to me that what Joe Pass does almost till the end of the first chorus of NHOP's solo is not simple in that he is filling up a lot of space with those quarter notes when he could have played one chord for two bars--that would have been simple. But I also maintain that Joe's purposely cheesy accompaniment adds to the performance because it adjuncts another level of communication.
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
Also: And of course, during the trade offs, While Joe stops for NHOP, NHOP keeps accompanying Joe when arguably the more musical and certainly the most fair thing to do would have been to stop. It is as if NHOP is saying that Joe is too infantile too play all by himself. Finally, that run that Joe plays at the end arguably takes away from the performance. He must have done it to spite NHOP.
Thus, Joe is the initial provoker, NHOP responds violently, and Joe concludes with the last word.
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago 2
@doublealufwaffe Man i think you're reading into things a little bit too much. If there is some needling, it seems pretty good-natured. They're both smiling at each other at the end, going like "man, that was fun."
cause its sure fun to listen to
tomzilla1234 1 year ago
@tomzilla1234, of course its good natured. It's this sort of communication that is music. A harmonious dispute.
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
@doublealufwaffe, exactly!
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
@doublealufwaffe hmmm.. you don't know much about music do you? if niles is hatin on joe's style he must not want the gig that bad, it's joe's gig. For the amount of music they play together this one song is a drop in the bucket. All players want to shine so yes they are trying to out do each other. The quater note pattern joe is using he stole from other guitarists. He likes it and gets gigs with it. Why don't you do something less cheesy and take his gigs? and his bass player Mr. critic?
mclifford57 1 year ago
@mclifford57, read my other comments, silly goose
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
@doublealufwaffe You put in words what I have also thoght! It seems to be a very childish and indirect "fight" haha.
tomastrials 1 year ago
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mclifford57 1 year ago
Actually, NHOP and Joe Pass they seem to be in conflict. First, NHOP plays a beautiful rhythm part for Joe's solo, but when its time for NHOP's solo, Joe begins with these cheesy quarter note chords. Then during the bass solo, at around four minutes, and during the trade offs, NHOP plays sixteenths much better than Joe--almost maliciously as if saying "Ha! I play cleaner, faster, and with more facility than you!".
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
Does anyone if NHOP is plugged into an amp? His bass that is, not him.
doublealufwaffe 1 year ago
I think this may be the best I've ever heard NHOP play. Now that really is saying something!
daveerman 2 years ago
tri·crot·ic (trī-krŏt'ĭk)
adj. Medicine
Having three waves or elevations to one beat of the pulse.
headbanger623 2 years ago
Does anyone know where to buy this video?
skunkfunk89 2 years ago
Its on 'The Genius Of Joe Pass', thats the only video I know that has this.
JazzJunkie4 2 years ago
Exact
gleffy 2 years ago
@JazzJunkie4 and on "chops"
MrJazznerd 1 year ago
This type of music is an acquired taste, but even if a person doesn't like the sound, I don't see how anyone could watch this and NOT see two geniuses at work.
JeffBlazer74 2 years ago
The name of the tune is Tricotism, not Tricrotism.
theIonliestmonk 2 years ago
Right.
gleffy 2 years ago
@theIonliestmonk not true, this piece actually has more ´names´ another one i heard was ´Tractitism´ . on the album ´sound of the trio´from oscar peterson.
but the most common name is infact , tricotism
krullebol4 2 years ago
The piece was written by Oscar Pettiford NOT Peterson. It was released on a Lucky Thompson album entitled TRICOTISM. Thats the name of the song.
theIonliestmonk 2 years ago
if you could read my words properly, jou would see i did not say anything about this being oscar peterson´s tune. next to that i said that it has diffrent names on multiple records .
krullebol4 2 years ago
@theIonliestmonk As I understand it, and I studied bass with an old school guitar player, the tune was originally titled "Tricrotism." The title changed as guys pronounced it without the 'R' in the middle. That was simply do to colloquial styles of speech that most jazz musicians had.
mrundrhill 2 years ago
Yeah, Ive definately seen it spelled that way on a couple records.
seserere 2 years ago
@theIonliestmonk i think it has three titles.. they seem to be playing the notes right haha.. they even do the ray brown slide thing.. niles always sounds like he is playing electric. i think it is his three fingered method, gut strings might help avoid this. i know plenty of folks with gut strings and i really think it is the way you pluck the string and your timing
mclifford57 1 year ago
nielzz
fuckingharpsichord 2 years ago
hahahahahaha i agree!
bestak0s 2 years ago 4
ALIENS!!! they were truly not of this earth.
BaltiSean 2 years ago 4
you have got to be kidding me chris...i cannot play like this guy...he is the KING of double bass...i wont even do it a quarter as good as him :(
markandtyler 2 years ago
I posted that before the bass solo...WOW!!! That is the coolest, most challenging-sounding solo I've heard on upright!!! :) NHOP, you rule.
foowah7 3 years ago 2
While NHOP plays sweet lets not forget its Oscars tune and he also kicked it.
gruffpuppyaol 3 years ago 2
suddenly I feel completely inadequate on every possible level as a musician and bassist.
jerms90 3 years ago 2
i feel this way everytime i hear niels and joe play!
renixe 3 years ago 2
you're not alone. for me, watching nhop play is both inspiring and completely demoralizing. if there is a god his name is nhop
thespacebandito 2 years ago 13
joe pass is no slouch either
thespacebandito 2 years ago
fucking NHOP plays bass like there is no tommorow
ryanz06 3 years ago 18
I don't play bass, but I tried playing an upright bass one time and man, those strings are tough.
If I had never had that experience - and saw this video- I'd be under the impression that an upright bass was easy to play. That's how good NHOP is.
utube9000 3 years ago 3
NHOP INSUPERABILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
manticore1962 3 years ago
the god of upright bass
edlaksmi 3 years ago 2
the kings of strings
gjseraphin88 3 years ago 2
hahaha so true.
nferris88 3 years ago
this is just great
aspwikks 3 years ago
Its amazing how Niels can play so fast and musically with such great tone and articulation
kmbuchamushroom 3 years ago
awesome!
Two real masters!
TianYue1981 4 years ago
I am notr sure, but I think it is a jazz club in Tivoli Gardens, Copenhagen, named Jazzhus Slukefter. Joe Pass and NHOP had great duo-sessions there.
The mosque, I guess, isn´t really a mosque, but a depiction of the Oriental styled retaurant Nimb, also in the Tivoli Gardens.
Oakhollm 4 years ago
I wonder where this was...it's got a nice picture of a mosque in the background
prasiddha 4 years ago
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!AMAZING!!
Nujynisis 4 years ago
The bassist is Niels-henning Ørsted pedersen
kemadsen 4 years ago
What an astonishing rendition by Joe Pass! The bassist grooves! Does anyone know the name of the bassist?
blitzkrieg414 4 years ago