Let's Play Civ 5 - Korea - Episode 8 - Part 2/2

[jensschreuder]

You should build at least one coastal city and build some ships for scouting. You may also find some whales or pearls which would be fortunate.

[SuperCompany007]

how can you have a modern army without modern era???

[discoveryproduction]

Quill if I were you I would launch a surprise attack on Onondaga whilst the Iroqouis have the majority of their armed forces outside their borders. Once you have onondaga, negotiate peace and then recover your economy :D

[SuperJacob543]

come on quill make the next part pleaaaaaaaaaase

[DiChOzEnOnE]

quill!There is no time to wait now that Germany is so small the enemy will stop the war you have to emergency attack Onondaga because they will pull back the army and it will be harder so strike the units in the front lines and go for the capital but first it would be better if you attack the city next to Onondaga and Helsinki so you would have space to heal!

[shamir137]

I think after taking over Germany you should take over onondaga and then you need to recover your economy. Anyways Thanks for Uploading.

[Modestmonkey92]

27:04 Frikkin brilliant!

[haveclord]

AT 8:00 You could have taken the city like 10 times and not lost any units!

[Officiate1]

The youtube council has spoken.

[dewaldo]

You seem to have a lot of luxury resources you're not doing anything with. You could probably get some happiness or money by trading those.

[solidusisbad]

Quill, I believe that you should stop razing Hamburg around 1 pop and just let it grow slowly. Also, I believe you should have taken out Germany and not have negotiated a peace treaty with them. Same thing with Greece. I mean, if you're going for a military victory, might as well take out the loose ends before going to war with Hiawatha, who has so many city states as allies. You shouldn't worry about diplomatic relations with the other civs, seeing as how they're weak and far away.

[ebermtheburn]

Don't raze any city's, its a waste of economic power

[chowderman8888]

burn hamburg and build some new cities

[NSWProduction]

23:26 Kim Jong Quill, sipping his tea as he decides the fate of Hamburg.

[ScubaSteveWA]

It would be best to let hamburg fall to a 1 or 2 pop then stop razing it. If you do raze it, all that will happen is the AI (most likely Germany) will settle in the location again. You could also sell it to a country that's not a threat (possibly try and sell it to a country for them in return to declare war on the Iroquois), just don't raze it since Germany will retake it.

[kratuna0]

I just though of something - Tyre wants you to discover China (or was it another city state). Sell Hamburg to China and this will count as discovery.

[civrules202]

@kratuna0 You are right! Not only will it get rid of Hamburg, it will help your gold total, make China happy, and make Tyre very VERY VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY happy. Quill, you should also think about trying to snipe a worker or great general, the Iroquois have tons flying around.

[sonickage]

hey quill when are you gonna do another live stream?

[ir0nsquire]

Gosh freak man....your drinking is disgusting!

[crons246]

Quill right now the only nation that has a chance to defeat you is the Iroqiuos with culture production. That has got to be rediculious. The Faster you take it the better your chances are of just running up the score and pwning everybody. Also Argos is size 14. This might be the right time to take out argos because your army is just too big. Also can anyone explain to me why Hiawathwa isbuilding only mohawk warriors and trebuchets. Really outdated army

[nverdick]

Quill, if you move your units into the city, they heal 3/turn versus the 2/turn from being in friendly territory.

[wolfwolf1234567]

Burn it down to one for the defensive bonus

[sinovera]

I don't know where your "road-to-the-Iriquois" worker went but make sure you double check that it's making the road in the correct place. The "route-to" command often makes them start the road in a different place if there is a road that is already closer to the tile which you selected––which may be the case what with Corinth there.

[xcsheehan]

Purchase courthouse and trade resources for money, I think it is a worthwhile city to keep

[mattbenz99]

you can puppet a city then annex it when the resistance is over then save some unhappiness

[LongStrider42]

stop razing Hamburg. Unpuppet one city at a time (starting with Helsinki) and build a courthouse in each. The silver you can get just outside the boarders of Helsinki will help with the unhappiness, the extra resources can be traded to china babylon greece or germany for gold per turn.

This will take several turns, but shouldn't be that much longer than building up a decent force of riflemen in time to march out for your next war.

[pugfuggly]

Unfortunately, with the bulk of your army in (former) Germany, you're going to be playing a bit defensively when you declare war on the Iroquois. Finish razing Hamburg to, and try to build yourself up in the south as much as possible so you can have a straight line to their capital. Don't get bogged down going after the other Iroquois cities. Keep your eyes on the main prize and move quickly before they get a chance to build up more advanced units to challenge yours.

[burnt41]

Quill you are the best keep it up

[MysteriousPaul]

Ok 5 step plan

1.) Burn Hamburg

2.) Move half of units to Helsinki, other half to Essen and start the war.

3.) Take Essen and destroy the main column of the Iroquois Army

4.) March on the capital

5.) Just win baby

[mattbenz99]

normally i try and get rifling really early because its so powerful it is and once i do get it i go on a warpath

[TheKevtherev11]

@Suicider12 I find it funny that your name is Suicider and you're talking about happiness

[IVIenac3]

unpuppet everything, and then build courthouses. Right now all those puppets give you permanent unhappyness, if you occupy then build courthouses you'll suffer a temporary happyness hit but afterwards you're rid of the penalty.

[ahmedmaye18]

Burn Hamburg! And burn Essen when you capture it too. Focus on Onondaga and Osinnka, once you capture them from the Iroquois their booming economy is going to collapse. Consider me your official warmonger. TAKE IT TO 'EM QUILL!

[ahmedmaye18]

Quill why are you builing Armories and forges in a lot of cities? I think the maintenance is what is screwing with your economy.

[BlaZee181]

@ahmedmaye18 No he has way more units than his economy can sustain, but its gonna be fine once he advences in tech.

[mattbenz99]

@ahmedmaye18 the 1 maintenance for a armory is worth it because it greatly increases your combat effectiveness

[Angamoth]

@mattbenz99 but not everywhere 1,2 MAYBE 3 cities with armories are sufficient, no need to build them all over your empire

[FabiAtRage]

before declaring war to Irouois make sure they dont have any money left to quick purchas units. sell him all kind of stuff and then declare war right away, that way you can sneak a lot of money from him

[SeanAldridge]

Main, Kill, Burn Hamburg!

[joehoe222]

First some useless info for now: The Landsknecht (Field helper a bit literally translated) is half the price of the normal pikeman. That's the reason that Germany suddenly got a lot of them.

I think it wasn't smart to burn the city. You may had some 'useless' cotton, but you forgot that trading with others can make you money and/or other happines resources. And the money buff would be a great help indeed too. A courthouse would have done the trick.

Don't forget to upgrade your units!

[LegolessVideos]

Very well played, dealing with Germany. I say let Hamburg burn. Essen won't have time to grow before you wipe it off the map.

[Suicider12]

You're under 10 unhappiness now, so if you build a courthouse in Hamburg, your unhappiness won't be quite so dangerous. However, you might not be able to have enough happiness saved up to conquer the Iroquois' cities. So it's probably better to simply raze Hamburg and save your happiness for the world wonder cities :P

[AStatine11]

so basically distract the main Iroquois force by keeping them near Helsinki while attack Onondaga with some force.

but i think u should find out if Onondaga has walls and castles or not otherwise when u attack they might buy walls and castles to buff up their defenses at the last minute.

[AStatine11]

great vid quill

now i think you should definitely raze hamburg, position a majority of your sword troops near helsinki with a couple siege units, and then take the rest towards the iroquois capital near to corinth. i think you can take onondaga with 3 riflemen and 3 h'wachas. also i think the iroquois might try for germany's last city, if they do maybe u can give the germans a unit to help wear down the iroquois and when they take the city, attack them as they will be blocked in and damaged.

[asianinvasion666]

Hey Quill, do you mind making the game audio a bit louder our make your commentary a bit softer? Just a slight audio imbalance. Thanks a lot, love watching your stuff.

[XDragon69]

Quill! Get Barrage three to unlock Range and Indirect Fire. Range gives +1 range and Indirect Fire allows you to shoot over hills and trees. Your catapult could have had both by now.

[Suicider12]

@XDragon69 I never understood why quill didn't want those upgrades :/

[kajusz931]

Rename your cities to something more Korean-ish please ! thumbs up if u agree so he can see :)

[killfear]

woot civ!

[BlizzardProduct]

Quill, I've always wondered.. Where do you sit with your computer? It looks like a basement xD

[GamersGuides305]

Puppet hamberg

[andreas10203]

I trust in your judgement!

[GaniSowie]

Don't burn down the city. Buy a courthouse and it will reduce the unhappiness by a lot.

you could also trade the city back to Germans ?

[dubaipete]

Your city attack is too slow. Once you had the 3 seige weapons and attack units surrounding Berlin, you could have taken it out in two turns. You correctly used the seige weapons to weaken Berlin then .... did nothing with the longswordsmen?! Ok, the city will not fall that turn and you will take a hit (you may even lose a unit) but you will DEFINITELY take out Berlin next turn. Your hesitation allowed Germany to retaliate. I notice this is a bad habit of yours. Be brave!! And win!

[annoyingcola]

4:34 'i don't think that extra crossbow men made any difference'

from the looks of it Germany build a second crossbow men in Berlin which attack your catapult before it got kick out from their being 2 units in the city. thumbs up so quill can see this

[kratuna0]

Upgrade your siege to drill/shock 3 as Angamoth suggest and give them blitz - that makes them UBER. Upgrade the remaining catapult, trade your extra resources for new luxuries and gold to upgrade your longswords to rifleman. Leave Hamburg and make it high gold production city. Look around for trade and money to bribe city states for luxuries and culture and look into the policies for happiness. You cannot take the Iroquois without more modern troops. More science otherwise you'll fall behind.

[GHouseDuivel]

I would definitely start shopping your luxury resources around, or your horses/iron. Selling to the Chinese or Babylonians sounds good for now.

[Angamoth]

Give Hamburg to chinese, they are pretty friendly, will deny city place from Iroq, chinese aren't close to you so no BIG harm in strengthening them. You may also consider selling your workers as they are loosing usefullnes now, and they can give quite a contribution to your maintenance

Also: I want "edit" post available

[LtVictor1]

Is that a sweater or coat quill i really like the look of it.

[Angamoth]

Nope setup takes UP TO 1 movement, attack takes all (for majority of units or UP TO 1 for not-majority), but moving on roads takes less than 1

also getting 3lvls in drill/shock unlocks 2 neat promotion namely blitz: extra attack/turn and march +1hp every turn

[BlaZee181]

That is just ridiculous. They make the AI cheat because they cant write a decent enough one? I hope they will improve that at least to civ 4 level.

[superguy911]

Ai can cheat by attacking with a unit that has just been trained, thus he can hit you 3 times in one turn

[BlaZee181]

How the hell did that crossbowman attack twice? Its around 4:30 taking down the catapult, is it a promotion or something?