You guys are giving programmers way too much slack on the AI part. A perfect AI is indeed very hard to code bu they did SO LITTLE with it in DEHR that I kind of wonder about their ability to abstract human basic human behaviour and translate it in methods (algorithmic working code).
I dunno the AI in the released game is pretty dire. No worse than most games though.
The fact is the way the NPCs act is nothing like how humans would act. The way the NPCs leave alarmed state after about 30 secs is probably the most unrealistic feature. Wipe out half the room, then run away and the half left alive go back to unalarmed state. As if that would happen in real life. Also the AI for hunting down the player is seriously limited.
what a shame, situations like here are still possible in the game (though much more rare). But the AI in DEHR is a giant leap from the original deus Ex and is still better than most of todays' AIs where the opponents either cheat, or are braindead
I´m disappointed.. the AI is really dumb as hell! I just killed everyone in the police office on hardmode with no problems at all... i hope they will fix this!
the "Damn! What the hell happened" sounded a little like the Engy in TF2
btw, you can't blame the devs for shitty AI in a game, if they put good AI the vast majority of players will get their asses handed over on a plate and will ask for a refund, they need to sell the damn game first to pay the bills
@TubeofDestiny No, not at all. The game would use a "natural-selection"-esque phase where it will root out the terrible players and pick the good players for achivement-whoring or online-play. No terribad player should be able to get all of the achievements or be on top of the leaderboards by simply spraying and praying or jamming one button to win.
@criminal90210 "No terribad player should be able to get all ach..." - Why ?
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Why ?
Because it wouldn't be fair ? It would be an insult to the good players ?
The devs and producers don't care about that, they need to sell. And terribad players have wallet. Why refusing to take their money ?
Do you really think one can successfully run a business and refuse to serve some customers because they're idiots/terribad ? You can't live off with only the good gamers as customers.
@TubeofDestiny If the achievement called for beating the entire game on the hardest difficulty, then what's the challenge of spraying and praying and getting it; that would be the Developer's fault. If the player actually needed skill and patience, then he deserves the achievement.
Some achievements are hard as hell to get, but they are damn rewarding once you get them. If all you have to do is throw a grenade to get an achievement, what's the fun in that? Nobody likes games like those.
@criminal90210 "If all you have to do is throw a grenade to get an achievement, what's the fun in that? Nobody likes games like those."
Surprisingly, millions of people bought such games.
They're not getting any congratulation at the office or at home, so they want to compensate with games.
This video is about AI btw. Bring back the Vietcong AI, 80% to 90% of your customers will complain that the enemy "camp", "always hide behind cover" and "never stay in place".
I'm pretty sure the AI has improved in those 2 months... next time, don't comment on old shit... check the date before you try to necro a dead argument.
@XenoXray That's irrelevant to the argument. If you're going to necro something old like that, give a good reason to, not waste my time by replying to your dumb comments.
@criminal90210 what the fuck are you talking about you idiot. You state that new games have stupid/poor AI, while i say that it is just stupid and plain wrong to think old games had better AI. that is the argument! and if you dont like people posting back at you, i suggest you dont post anymore comments on youttube.
@XenoXray LOL BRO, I posted that comment 2 months ago when the AI was actually that bad. It's been fuckin' 2 MONTHS, I'm pretty sure the developers didn't sit on their asses in that timespan and eat cake all day... What part of that don't you understand, because I'm 100% certain that's what I just said when I first replied to your stupid ass.
@criminal90210 You don't understand what I said. I'm not even saying anything about this game, I'm talking about games in general. You say new games have bad AI compared to "older" games. while I say that is false cause old games have bad AI as well. what part of that don't YOU understand? (FYI AI is still like in beta)
@criminal90210 why do you keep saying your comment is 2 months old? it has nothing to do with anything i said to you. I think you need to reread your comments.
@playvidya I certainly hope you're right, I've made a few more videos of some abysmally stupid behavior I've come across, and I've only played about 20 minutes of the game
You guys are giving programmers way too much slack on the AI part. A perfect AI is indeed very hard to code bu they did SO LITTLE with it in DEHR that I kind of wonder about their ability to abstract human basic human behaviour and translate it in methods (algorithmic working code).
StevXtreme 5 months ago
Well at least they pay attention to the bodies.
HawaiiKnut 5 months ago
Damn! What the hell happened?
/gets shot
Mandalore313 6 months ago
I dunno the AI in the released game is pretty dire. No worse than most games though.
The fact is the way the NPCs act is nothing like how humans would act. The way the NPCs leave alarmed state after about 30 secs is probably the most unrealistic feature. Wipe out half the room, then run away and the half left alive go back to unalarmed state. As if that would happen in real life. Also the AI for hunting down the player is seriously limited.
cthulhu11111111 6 months ago
what a shame, situations like here are still possible in the game (though much more rare). But the AI in DEHR is a giant leap from the original deus Ex and is still better than most of todays' AIs where the opponents either cheat, or are braindead
CzMDavid 6 months ago
This the leaked version ?
jbcg1995 6 months ago
I´m disappointed.. the AI is really dumb as hell! I just killed everyone in the police office on hardmode with no problems at all... i hope they will fix this!
aragamii 6 months ago
If only they'd improved it.....but they sure as hell know how to flank.
MajL337 6 months ago
What a shame.
SirCasval 7 months ago
The AI is actually quite good when you're on the ground. They flank, and regroup etc.
TheAussieStew 7 months ago
What the hell happened?
MagmaChinkasu 8 months ago
Orders for the day: "If you hear a noise, look anywhere but the ceiling."
MEGAXSTU 8 months ago 3
Cause it's not like these are just stupid civilians who think terrorist actions are a great way to promote pure human interests.
Learn to play more than the first level before making a judgement call.
LightandDark11 8 months ago
What the hell happen!?
Your friends are getting sniped and you're standing in the killzone.
Rainbow6Team 9 months ago
I like how the developers intentionally made the AI dumb to be like the old deus ex. oh wait a second...
hollowinichigo 9 months ago 4
You just wasted 5 (rare) tranquilizer rounds on the most easiest NPC of the game. Who's dumb now?
alxdesj 9 months ago
@alxdesj you are. extremely so.
BlackMasterRoshi 7 months ago
This a beta version. The full version will be released between 2 and a half months. I think that will fix many bugs
helghast132 9 months ago
In 8 months the official release will have an orange glow around the remaining enemies after you kill one
CvShadow0 9 months ago
the "Damn! What the hell happened" sounded a little like the Engy in TF2
btw, you can't blame the devs for shitty AI in a game, if they put good AI the vast majority of players will get their asses handed over on a plate and will ask for a refund, they need to sell the damn game first to pay the bills
TubeofDestiny 9 months ago
@TubeofDestiny 'the "Damn! What the hell happened" sounded a little like the Engy in TF2'
lolwat
Not even close to a little
Kizitou 9 months ago
@TubeofDestiny No, not at all. The game would use a "natural-selection"-esque phase where it will root out the terrible players and pick the good players for achivement-whoring or online-play. No terribad player should be able to get all of the achievements or be on top of the leaderboards by simply spraying and praying or jamming one button to win.
criminal90210 9 months ago
@criminal90210 "No terribad player should be able to get all ach..." - Why ?
...
Why ?
Because it wouldn't be fair ? It would be an insult to the good players ?
The devs and producers don't care about that, they need to sell. And terribad players have wallet. Why refusing to take their money ?
Do you really think one can successfully run a business and refuse to serve some customers because they're idiots/terribad ? You can't live off with only the good gamers as customers.
TubeofDestiny 9 months ago
@TubeofDestiny If the achievement called for beating the entire game on the hardest difficulty, then what's the challenge of spraying and praying and getting it; that would be the Developer's fault. If the player actually needed skill and patience, then he deserves the achievement.
Some achievements are hard as hell to get, but they are damn rewarding once you get them. If all you have to do is throw a grenade to get an achievement, what's the fun in that? Nobody likes games like those.
criminal90210 9 months ago
@criminal90210 "If all you have to do is throw a grenade to get an achievement, what's the fun in that? Nobody likes games like those."
Surprisingly, millions of people bought such games.
They're not getting any congratulation at the office or at home, so they want to compensate with games.
This video is about AI btw. Bring back the Vietcong AI, 80% to 90% of your customers will complain that the enemy "camp", "always hide behind cover" and "never stay in place".
> Customer is always right.
TubeofDestiny 9 months ago
@TubeofDestiny Yeah, that's exactly why I'm close to losing my confidence in the average human...
And I also agree, the AI is very retarded in most games nowadays, this is one of the best examples I've seen so far.
criminal90210 9 months ago
@criminal90210 Come on, dont act like old games had good AI.
XenoXray 6 months ago
@XenoXray >2 months ago
>game was just released
I'm pretty sure the AI has improved in those 2 months... next time, don't comment on old shit... check the date before you try to necro a dead argument.
criminal90210 6 months ago
@criminal90210 That still doesnt change the fact that AI wasent any better in old games.
XenoXray 6 months ago
@XenoXray That's irrelevant to the argument. If you're going to necro something old like that, give a good reason to, not waste my time by replying to your dumb comments.
criminal90210 6 months ago
@criminal90210 what the fuck are you talking about you idiot. You state that new games have stupid/poor AI, while i say that it is just stupid and plain wrong to think old games had better AI. that is the argument! and if you dont like people posting back at you, i suggest you dont post anymore comments on youttube.
XenoXray 6 months ago
@XenoXray LOL BRO, I posted that comment 2 months ago when the AI was actually that bad. It's been fuckin' 2 MONTHS, I'm pretty sure the developers didn't sit on their asses in that timespan and eat cake all day... What part of that don't you understand, because I'm 100% certain that's what I just said when I first replied to your stupid ass.
criminal90210 6 months ago
@criminal90210 You don't understand what I said. I'm not even saying anything about this game, I'm talking about games in general. You say new games have bad AI compared to "older" games. while I say that is false cause old games have bad AI as well. what part of that don't YOU understand? (FYI AI is still like in beta)
XenoXray 6 months ago
@XenoXray I don't understand why you don't see that the comment is 2 months old. It clearly says it next to my name.
criminal90210 6 months ago
@criminal90210 why do you keep saying your comment is 2 months old? it has nothing to do with anything i said to you. I think you need to reread your comments.
XenoXray 6 months ago
@XenoXray I think you need to reread my comment and look over every detail, it clearly says it is 2-months old, sir.
criminal90210 6 months ago
Well, let's hope the AI won't be this bad in the final product. :O
Rechizit 9 months ago
Damn! What the hell happened?
lolwtfomgroflbbq 9 months ago
reminds me of hitman blood money
lukasWZ 9 months ago
Whoa! A pile of dead bodies. It's almost as if they were kneeling right here...and then a sni--
Lonelan 9 months ago 55
Looks like a good game, except it better be as hard as the first game.
88Meters 9 months ago
The leaked version is from about 3-5 months ago. so the game will have 6-8 months more work than the version shown here.
playvidya 9 months ago 11
@playvidya I certainly hope you're right, I've made a few more videos of some abysmally stupid behavior I've come across, and I've only played about 20 minutes of the game
masonw65 9 months ago 3
Looks like I'll be playing this game on the hardest difficulty.
ShintoCross1 9 months ago
Somebody found a way to code worse AI than the first Deus Ex wow...
stroggos2k 9 months ago
yeah...pretty stupid...
gandami 9 months ago