Natalie Wood's Sister Wants Drowning Case Reopened

[irish89055]

obviously the captain was an incompetant..

[1whamster]

I would like to know if Jerry Brown [governer of California] is going to give his full backing into this new investigation, bearing in mind he was also in office back in 81 during the 'whitewash' investigation!

[petrulengo]

If you look up wikipedia you will find that dates are questionable regarding his relationship with Jill St. John and the death of his wife. Info suggests he started a relationship with St. John in 1982 and his wife Natalie dies in 1983...Have copied and pasted the info as follows: At age 43, Wood drowned near Santa Catalina Island, California at the time her last film, Brainstorm (1983), Re/ SThey first met when she was 18 years old and have been a couple since early 1982

[petrulengo]

How long was this woman asleep before she decided to ask the question??........"What happened to my sister?".

[1982Lennon]

Considering her intense fear of deep, dark water, the whole dinghy theory is laughable. But, people will believe anything. It's not hard to fool people.

[JohnnyGNV]

@1982Lennon I understand what you mean, I think it more than odd that a woman who was afraid of water would attempt to board a small dinghy at night, alone ~ but why then did she have a heavy jacket on over her nightgown? Obviously she at least went out on deck to secure the dinghy it or board it if she was so ticked off after the argument - and in an intoxicated state maybe not thinking clearly - I think it was just a terrible accident and anyone else aboard was too drunk to notice ~

[leedumett444]

they argued, and wagner probably pushed her over. something isn't right.

[p71280]

Femi-Nazi = Blame it on the Man !

[billy1212ist]

Lana wants Camera Time period.This id her excuse to get it like she has a;; of her life.Not easy being number two,for some.Will this be followed by a book too ?

[billy1212ist]

@alloutoftime How dumb, OK she is unintentionally pushed,then she is unintentionally not listened to,or helped? How many Dumbo Pills did you take today? What does "somewhat" mean? How can you be somewhat responsible.Oh it was your idea to go on the boat " DUH...

[alloutoftime]

@billy1212ist Fuck Off.

[billy1212ist]

@alloutoftime .Beautiful retort,exactly what is to be expected from someone of your ilk.Was reaching the ninth grade a 'first' for your bloodline ?........Excuse me Natalie dear,here is your drink,...oops ! Sorry I nudged you,and you fell off the boat."Ah,I'm going below for some Natcho's do ya need anything "...didn't mean the nudge. Is that how YOU SEE IT,stupid ?

[alloutoftime]

@billy1212ist Was leaving the 6th grade a first for your bloodline?

[billy1212ist]

@alloutoftime -WOW You are a whip,OK,it's your dime.Was the 5th Grade a first for your bloodline?DUH.This guy is pushing for his book,LA is a very plastic phony place,I moved there from NYC,same crap only with palm trees,and the people are not as quick in the head.I decorated Theme Restaurants.Lived on a boat,lots of pretty girls,well in your case,..lots of farm animals.This guy was a Chauffer on the water,a hired worker,kept in his room till we call for you,he is looking for a buck.period.

[HEAVENLYFATHER3000]

@alloutoftime

He pushed her intentionally to end her life. He knew she wouldn't make it if she fell in the water [he threatened to throw her out of his boat that's why she went on land for 2 days, but came back thinking he wouldn't kill her]. She caught him with Christopher sniffing each other's holes [like dogs]. She threatened to tell the public and he got really mad and wanted to destroy her sooner before the news broke out because back then it was horrific to be found you're "gay".

[cmilford1969]

What happened is that Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken drowned Natalie Wood because she caught them nude together playing Twister.

[renee2971]

Funny how Robert Wagner never heard anything. Never believed his story.

[390bullitt1968]

I lived in Berlin in 1981 and everyone was saying HE did it. When I spent time in america in 1982, I recall many Americans saying HE did it. When I returned to New Zealand in 1983, I also heard folks say He did it. The whole world thinks He did it. Thank goodness, this young lady get justice. LA sheriff was lazy and did not want to stir the pot.

[billy1212ist]

@390bullitt1968 *My Father is from Berlin,you are an embarrassment .You say repeatedly,"they say,they said,they were saying etc." What make's you think that "they" know anything at all ?The "whole world" which is however,all that YOU have heard of it yourself,period.You sound like you would make a good follower,just do and think what "they say".Think.What did they have to gain?Nothing.They were high on drugs,&drunk she fell in.WHY,a fight,a threesome,a twosome the boys?Or just drunk Sh!t,a waste

[Angelsneeded]

I am 60years old today and I was really A fun of Natalie Wood ! She was a great actress as well very pretty human being outside , inside herself!!I still remember her specially for the reason that people involved in her death own's fair justice! I liked Mr. Wagner but after that I really change my feeling very sad because I thinking probably He was Natalie's murder! And Thanks for reopened it!! IT IS ABOUT TIME! She Deserve !!!!

[ladymorticya]

Stop the madness ! When I was young and heard about Nathalie Wood's death, everyone knew/ (thought) RW was THE man.

Even here in France I remembered the story and no-one beleived in a simple accident...

It was sad cos' everyone loved RW, but I I remembered my thoughts and my family's ones... since THAT day RW became a persona-non-grata.

Of course we all know the truth

[Montery12]

Circumstantial evidence may lead to a conviction if there are no eye witness to point homicide. She was found dead with multiple bruises on her body and a bruise on her face, which my have been caused by a hit. How did those come about? Why was not this evidence of assault not brought up then? So many questions? Hope the truth is found.

[jene4loveu]

The all three people know the real true. Wagner Walken and Davern.It's time now for to know the true.They are looking for lawyers because they know they are in trouble now.What makes me sick is why we have to wait 30 years for reopening the case? Maybe because authorities have evidences.Hope they will be punished.

[TheBearcub410]

i have a feeling that natalie wood had a fight that night was a little drunk and was leaving the boat on that dingy and fell overboard and drowned , i will say i went rafting on one of those dingy and believe you me it is almost impossible to get back into one of them from the water , all of us on the rafting trip had to be helped to get back into the dingy from the water , to do it with wet clothes and a bit tipsy would be impossible

[1982Lennon]

@TheBearcub410 Given her intense fear of deep, dark water, it's just not believable she would try and board the dinghy. I don't know what happened, but for a woman who was scared to even go in her own pool, it makes no sense. Alcohol makes us do crazy things, but if I'm afraid of heights and when I'm drunk, I'm still afraid of heights...

[atoytoy]

Let justice be served!!! Thirty years is a long time to wait.

[wisesatyr72]

the last two people who were with her were her husband and Christopher Walkins..

[spareaxe]

number 2 shame on you.

[gcahn2]

Mr. Mustard in the drawing room with the candalabra.

[ForeverVachon]

America thrives on denial. That's what allowed killers Robert Wagner and William Shatner to get away with murdering their wives by drowning. I hope the Shatner case is next!

[bealestbluesss]

@ForeverVachon I always thought Shatner had something to do with his wife's death as well as Wagner

[mmfmmf332]

It looks like the sister will get her wish. I hope the family can finally put this to rest.

[15scottie]

Everyone knows that Robert Wagner killed her & completely got away with it.. I's SO obvious.

[Muirmaiden]

Let's hope that the truth is revealed and their will be justice for Natalie!

[InfinityNebula]

Good News for Natalie fans they are going to re-open the case

[fraaaaaag]

@InfinityNebula So they should, Did Robert do it, did the Captain do it, did she just jump because she felt bad about the argument they had, What was the argument About, Why were they drunk anyway what was the occasion, She was alive for a long time in the water Why didnt they notice her gone there were only three of them on the small boat?????????

[InfinityNebula]

@fraaaaaag Natalie remains my favorite actress despite the fact that Im part of a younger generation

Its good to see people like you and others come to her defense I believe Wagner pushed her in the water and left her to die I also think he will be arrested for her Murder Natalie remains one of the most Beautiful actresses ever

[jpsmart59]

@InfinityNebula I think Mr. Wagner is guilty as sin and when he passes; he will answer to his Maker about what he did to poor Natalie Wood. He can't live to Him while he can lie to authorities as he has all this time. 

[jaydayb]

am i retarded ? what about you ? are you retarded ! ?google the first quote with "....." quotation marks, and then read the one from amazon.com, then you see it says so about accusing etc....i quoted both sources honestly...if they are wrong or lying ,it's their fault...anyway i think he did it ,but he believed she deserved it, and may be she did...this is end of my responses to this...bye

[florencesullivan5]

I remember when she died and the same questions were raised then and nothing came of it. I do not think her sister is going to get a lot of questions answered simply because of the passing of time that makes it impossible to retrive certain evidence and memories become faded. I miss her to she was one of my favorite movie actresses of all time

[TheSami1973]

I just watched Natalie Wood's life story on True Movies. The film leaves you feeling suspicious of actually what happened but sometimes things can be innocent and people framed? Her memory definately needs to be kept alive. She was a stunning woman. For me it was West Side Story that I remember her from. My Gran said she died in suspicious circumstances and until today I have never seen the film or anything about it.

[bealestbluesss]

Something was not right about that night and the days and months and years that have following Nathalie's "accendental" drowning.

[jaydayb]

"After Robert Wagner went ballistic and smashed a wine bottle in front of everyone and accused Walken of having or wanting to have sex with Natalie, the little party of four broke up."...."She willingly aggravated the situation by her excessive flirtations with Walken. "...google both quotations for 2 sources...then Natalie Wood was not that innocent...to me Robert Wagner doesn't look like an evil person....would you like your wife openly flirts with a man in front of you ?!!!

[jarileigh]

@jaydayb It was Walken & Wagner fighting( Gay) & Natalie was mad because of that! He promised he wouldn't do that anymore. Your quotes are wrong. Then he waited 14 HOURS after he knew she was missing to report it, and a nearby boat (sound really does carry over water) heard a woman yelling for help, and this was reported BEFORE the news of her death came out, so WHAT A COINCIDENCE! Just because someone doesn't "look" guilty does NOT make them innocent,

[fraaaaaag]

@jarileigh If your right about this (gay thing) then it would have been Walken that did it out of Jealousy but Robert may have had something to do with it as well.

[jarileigh]

@jaydayb Are you retarded? It says RJ smashed a wine bottle, it says NOTHING about accusing Walken of having a affair with Natalie, blah blah blah......it also says Natalie was more angry than he had ever seen her....that source is the 4th person on the boat, the Captian. How dare you twist everything around to blame a innocent woman, ONLY THING FOR SURE is that things were fishy surrounding her death because everyone lied & covered up, now why would you do that if you did nothing wrong?

[rockinrobintweets]

@jarileigh Cover up OR too drunk to remember. I cant say it was a cover up because I wasnt there AND tragic accidents do happen. It s very sad but if re opening the case help s the family.....but if there is no new PROOF , can they live with that. Sadly any one can say any thing 30 YEARS LATTER but proof to back it up...

[1982Lennon]

@rockinrobintweets Accidents do happen, but it's no accident that you go over four hours without notifying anybody about her disappearance.

[rockinrobintweets]

@1982Lennon If everyone was as drunk as they say then it COULD have been hours before they knew she was missing, not saying that is the case or not but the Captian has changed his story several times in 30 years so I dont see the captain as the bearer of thruth. As I saied if it helps the family and IF there is PROF of foul play then it s worth looking at again, this rom a Natalie Wood fan but Wagener, not so much EVER.

[1982Lennon]

@jaydayb Then you have an adult conversation or you get a divorce. You don't act like a child, breaking wine bottles

[TheIlovevideos]

nomnomnom

[lorindalew]

Now nearly 30 years have passed. The Truth shall set Natalie free. But we'll never get it because while there is no statute of limitation on murder, those on board will have to tell it one day to meet the Truth of what God has in store for them.

[ilovemusic3939]

On November 29, 1981, Natalie drowned in a freak boating accident..... Shortly after, at the beginning of 1982, Wagner began a relationship with an old friend, actress Jill St. John.

[riv4life618]

@ilovemusic3939 I remember reading somewhere it was even sooner than that. Natalie drowned the weekend after Thanksgiving and by Christmas he was with Jill. If that (besides everything else) wasn't a red flag for people nothing is. Even when I was a kid and didn't know the Natalie/RJ connection or history, he just never rubbed me the right way. Something about him just made me think he was no good.

[idster7]

"The autopsy report shows Wood had two dozen bruises on her body, including a facial abrasion on her left cheek, and bruises on her arms. Rasure said he believes the injuries were sustained from falling overboard and struggling in the water." two dozen bruises from falling into & swimming in water?

[beckjuly100]

The question as to what REALLLy happened that night has also nagged at me anytime I have had the occassion to think of her..

[TheMusicgirl7777]

I think ROBERT WAGNER killed NATALIE! I think he struck her into the WATER where he then LEFT her to DIE! I hope he ROAST in HELL for it, too! ROBERT if you see this, GOD knows everything!

[critchley3819]

@NanaMcal we were not there so will never know , but I cant help believing that you are right .

[phdequipped]

Watched a bio on Natalie last night... It was stated Christopher Walken was on the boat with them when she drowned. ??? I'd never heard that one before. Natalie was murdered. It was a ritual murder. Hollywood is FULL of satanists and upon close inspection it is easy to see EVERY story line that comes from there is written to hail "Amen Ra." "Character development." Fascinating. See Lenon Honor Films, (download page), for a real eye opener.

[edwardjames50]

To this day, I can't look at Robert Wagner; he's despicable. I hope his memories torture his every waking moment.

[Debora1]

All the people involved in this tragedy have changed their version of the whole too many times over the years for too many reasons. The only one who knew/knows the ultimate truth has died. That's the unbearable tragedy IN the tragedy. Next November it will be 30 years since, such a long , long time :-((

[vanessalove182]

@EloiseDecember Wrong again. First of all, the skipper who was on the boat when she died said he tied the dinghy securely to the yacht and that it was never banging. Second of all, even if it was banging against the yacht, a small rubber dinghy would not make any noise at all to be heard from inside the yacht. The skipper wrote a book about it, he saw them arguing on the deck moments before she was missing, then Wagner ordered him to not call anyone for 2 hours or even turn on the search light

[EloiseDecember]

@vanessalove182 Well if he heard them arguing how come he didnt hear all the struggle that would have ensued if someone was murdering someone else! Or Christopher Walken? On this small boat?!

[1982Lennon]

@EloiseDecember He turned on the music really loud so he wouldn't seem like he was easedropping on them. Walken was sleeping.

[vanessalove182]

@EloiseDecember Hmm, you're wrong. There was nothing for her to slip on. There's no reason she would go out on the swimstep alone in the middle of the night. She could barely swim and was terrified of water. Also the autopsy revealed she was not drunk.

[kathynj1962]

If there's any possibility he's suspect I hope they reopen and go after him.

[InfinityNebula]

Wagner appears to be a bully and definately has clout in hollywood for whatever reason He's made threats to kill which makes him capable of Murdering Natalie

now blacklisting Lana for wanting the case investigated

Wagner was never a huge star anyway but it appears he had power in the business possibly mafia

[EloiseDecember]

@InfinityNebula who says he made threats to kill? Who said he blacklisted her sister? People just love to cry murder! don't they even if an innocent person's is made to suffer greatly in the process. Don't you think Christopher Walken might just possibly have known about it if Robert had done something to Natalie considering he was on the boat too and I believe he was in love with her so if something was done to her I think he might have said something.

[Debora1]

@EloiseDecember

Me too I do think there was some crush going on between Nat and Chris W, too many clues lead to this, maybe it was not sex (yet) and it was just slight and meant to wear off when their movie shooting was off, but there really was feeling beyond a simple friendship. He doesn't talk about that because he was and still is married with his longlife wife, because men always deny and because that would harm, along with his first, of course, also poor Natalie's reputation

[Debora1]

@Debora1

she being long since dead, sadly, and unable of any voicing about. He felt guilty as well. The more I gather up hints& facts about the whole thing the more I think some sort of a real life version of an Ancient Greek tragedy and Shakespeare drama mix blew all them up during those days on that boat. Walken doens't talk about her death because he just does not know, he was asleep all the while the worst went on, whatever happened. Beside Wagner, none will ever know the truth...

[inDpendant]

@redsunflower67 where do you think all the missing children in this country go? were talking hundreds of thousands of kids, every year! there just cant be that many pedophiles, and serial killers! in five years, enough children go missing to populate an entire metropolitan city, and thats just in the US, check it out for yourself, center for missing and exploited children! 600,000 children a year! just vanished into thin air! or sacrificed at the alter to the devil, 2million satanist in US!

[inDpendant]

I think Robert Wagner sacrificed her to the devil! to make a deal for wealth and fame! a lot of celebrities are doing that these days! their lining up as a matter of fact!

[Txsray]

It's pretty evident that it was murder.

[MileysTheHBIC]

wagner will go to hell

[DominoPetachi83]

If Lana Wood thinks Wagner killed her sister, then why doesn't she file a civil suit against him?

[4578a]

Maybe we'll get a confession on a someone's deathbed. Wasn't Christopher Walken there too?

[carrielovejoy]

@4578a Yes christopher Walken was on the boat as well. Him and Natalie were filming the movie brainstorm around the time she died.

[erkutgurun]

I just ordered the book ''Goodbye Natalie, Goodbye Splendor''. And can clearly say even before starting to read it that the truth will either come out and justice served, or RJ will be buried with his guilt as his punishment. Thats the least Nat deserves.

[MrBlahblehblahh]

she had a fight with her husand and then she turned up dead??

[listentome94]

You didn't post the whole show. I actually saw this when it was on TV. The newswoman said "Wood says she does NOT suspect foul play." If Lana Wood REALLY wanted this case reopened, she would stop covering Wagner's ass. He must have something on her that's holding her from making any accusations.

[Muirmaiden]

@listentome94 , she won't come out and say she holds Wagner responsible because she is afraid. Since he has had Lana blackballed, and one of the witnesses who overheard Natalie's cries for help was threatened, I don't blame Lana. She's been cut off from her nieces and friends because Wagner is threatened by her. His celebrity is his shield. Lana doesn't have tha tluxury.

[CrashBandit1979]

The only 3 people who can truly answer the mystery are the 3 men still alive today. Walken, Wagner and Davern. It would be an absolute shame if the truth dies with them.

[CrashBandit1979]

I believe she had been drinking that night. They all were drinking. But drunk or not, that woman was terrified of dark water. Whether having fallen overboard, or had she been tossed, she would've made a hell of a lot of noise. A nearby boat even reported hearing a woman screaming for help, but who knows if thats even true. One thing's for sure, there are way too many holes in the story. What strikes me as especially odd, is everyone's silence on that night. Very odd indeed.

[Troyellaislove]

@CrashBandit1979 The woman who heard her call for help said she had heard a laid back voice say to take it easy and they'd help her or something its on wikipedia. Xx

[vanessalove182]

@Troyellaislove That is true, but never believe what wikipedia says. It still has lies. Many people have tried going on there to put the correct information in, and it always gets reverted.

[1982Lennon]

@vanessalove182 Her name is Marilyn Wayne and she has been stating what she heard that night since '81 but the authorities refused to question her

[bballerguy0812]

Perhaps We will never know what happened that night but if Wagner had something to do with her death God is gonna make sure he pays for it before he dies.

[tranurse]

i've never figured she was murdered. i do think there is a reason why you shou;dn't be drunk on a boat. seems to me it was a horrible accident, but i wasn't there either...

[dumont1957]

Poor Natalie died from a tragic and preventable misadventure, period. It didn't help that she, Wagner and Walken were drinking like FISH the whole time. What a waste.

[Muirmaiden]

@ClassicTVMan1981X , there's no question that she died by drowning, it's the circumstances surrounding it that are suspicious. Wagner was negligent.

[ClassicTVMan1981X]

@Muirmaiden

I believe this case will be hopelessly blurred if Robert Wagner himself dies.

[rmattis100]

I guess Natalie Wood is the only type of wood that doesn't float (I know -- how cruel, I'm going straight to hell, blah, blah, blah). But, the truth is, I make fun of things that sadden me. Natalie Wood left us waaaaaay too early.

[cherie310]

Wagner killed her

[viewdemonde]

Poor Natalie....she didn't deserve to die in such fear and loneliness.....Wagner needs to tell what he knows to honour her memory.....he's getting on in years, now....so what's he got to lose?

[TheBeatlesShop]

RIP

[ladycorbin]

Where was this yacht captain when it happened if he was the only other person there? Why was Walken sleeping? I didn't read the bio. He's on team Lana... I wonder how strong his position is against the accidental drowning ruling, and why he takes it. ???

[sweetdreamseveryone]

they were both drunk and jealous of each other. Need I say more...

[atiana59]

I remember splendor in the grass movie with Natalee she supposely dry to drown her self being distraught over her lover Bud. when i heard of her passing i could not believe it was accidental. my theory was Robert Wagner did it just like Scott Peterson with Lacy his wife. Natalee is 100 percent prettyier and more class than Jill st John. hope they find out the truth.

[willybartlett]

Maybe you can get an online petition started to have all the people who love Natalie and want the truth, and want to see the guilty punished. Do it, I will help get people to join and sign. Lets get to the bottom of this! Rest In Peace Beautiful Dear Natalie!

[breetin]

I do believe that there was much more to Natalie's death, than what was officially stated. I have read plenty (books, magazines, internet, ect) on Natalie/RJ/and others. That being said, I think Lana Wood and whomever else wants to re-open the investigation into Natalie's death, are going to face difficult times ahead. It's a shame really, and I do wish them (especially Lana) the best of luck!

[coolcat20million]

It's a little ironic that Lana's sister was married to Robert Wagner. Lana herself starred in "Diamonds Are Forever," which also starred Robert Wagner's present wife, Jill St. John.

So Lana was related to Wagner's first wife, and worked with his current wife.

[vanessalove182]

@coolcat20million According 2 Lana, both St. John and Wagner treated her badly from the beginning. Jill was very bitchy while making Diamonds Are Forever (they both slept with Sean Connery, maybe she was jealous). Wagner was furious when Lana's then-husband sold pictures from his & Natalie's wedding to a magazine. And 10 years ago Lana had an altercation w/ Jill and Wagner at a James Bond reunion; Jill refused to pose in the picture featuring all the past Bond girls because Lana was in it.

[coolcat20million]

@vanessalove182 - Thanks for the inside scoop. 

[wingtips123]

@vanessalove182: It's very troubling. From what I gather in NW's bios, NW cut her off because LW was so, uh, needy for attention and exploitative of NW's fame. So this new appeal would fit. Having said that, however, the recent Finstad bio of NW made it very clear that the events of that night were covered up, or, at least, filed away, and RW's story has so many inconsistencies that her death should be re-investigated. Two witnesses, for example, heard a man shout, "You're a big star, swim!"

[sweetdreamseveryone]

@wingtips123 Where is it said that two witnesses heard a man shout "you're a big star, swim!"? I thought someone heard a man say "take it easy well come for you" or something close to saying that. If your right then that tells me that Wagner was jealous of Natalie...

[wingtips123]

@sweetdreamseveryone Hi, thanks for asking--it's possibly the most disquieting bit of reportage that any biographer has come up with, alongside the story that a big star raped her while she was making Rebel; online blogs identify that star although the biographer did not. Back to your question. I read that, and the rape story, in the book, Natasha: The Biography of Natalie Wood, by Suzanne Finstad. She did a lot of new research and lays out her death as a cold case that needs to be reopened.

[vanessalove182]

@wingtips123 I will answer because it's no secret. The "very famous actor" who allegedly raped her when she was a kid was Kirk Douglas. At the time, he was 38 years old and she was 16.

The same book (and at least one other) alleges Natalie had affairs with Frank Sinatra when she was 15 and he was 38; Nicholas Ray when she was 16 and he was 43; and Raymond Burr when she was 17 and he was 38.

It breaks my heart if these horrible things are true. She was just a girl taken advantage of.

[wingtips123]

@vanessalove182 I've also read on blogs that, of the stars who might be accused, the only poster boy was Kirk Douglas, who has admitted in an interview that he was "rough" on starlets, an apparent euphemism for rape. Sinatra and Ray were using her, and maybe vice versa, at her mother's prompting--to do anything to get ahead in the industry. But Burr, being gay, seems to have been her safe haven, a gentle man more interested in books than sex, who sheltered her from the others.

[vanessalove182]

@wingtips123 All of those men should be ashamed of themselves. In most cases of statutory rape, the guy is in his 20s, but these were middle-aged men having sex with a 15 year old. Douglas is still alive and has made no comment on the rumors, so there is no certainty. But I do believe there was a rape, and that those other guys took advantage of her.

[wingtips123]

@vanessalove182 I agree with you; it's statutory rape, and reveals how she was abused by the men and by her mother who pushed her into those relations. I may be mistaken, but I thought she was older when she was with Burr, not 15 but 20. The meaningful difference is if it's intimacy in exchange for favors. Burr had only a safe-zone to offer her--not movies or deals. And it's a sign of how vulnerable and alone she was that she went to him to feel safe. Makes you want to protect her.

[vanessalove182]

@wingtips123 She was already married by then. She was 17 when the Burr thing happened, but by most accounts they didn't consummate their relationship so I wasn't referring to him, but the other men. Nicholas Ray lived as a homosexual in his later years; he was recently divorced after his 2nd wife slept with his teenager son (who was older than Natalie). Maybe having an affair with a teen was his way of compensating, who knows. Bottom line is, what he, Sinatra, and Douglas allegedly did was sick.

[wingtips123]

@vanessalove182 I agree with you emphatically: what they did was unconscionable and untenable. The idea that these men would use her that way, rather than take on the protective-fatherly role that she clearly needed most, is monstrous--according to her bio, her boyish figure must have appealed to Ray. Abuse will ruin anyone, and long before her death, she was acting out the consequences of that damage, searching for serenity. I hope she found it.

[vanessalove182]

@wingtips123 Being sexually abused as an adolescent will affect everything in a person. And back then if that happened to someone, they kept quiet about it, whereas nowadays there is less sham and people can be open about it. She made poor choices in chosing husbands, left her career at a very young age, and was in therapy every day for 8 years as an adult. If not for the terrible things that happened in her teens, her life would have turned out much different.

[wingtips123]

What is the date on this clip? Did Lana Wood ever make an official appeal to re-open the case, and, if so, did anything ever come of it?

[vanessalove182]

@wingtips123 this is a fairly recent clip (march 2010).

nothing has come of it so far

[momyrose]

robertwagner ....i think was never talented or handsome, he was an unattractive nerd that Natalie fell for ....and we will find out what happened, although we already know, what a shame....to lose Natalie

[cubomania3]

I read the book by Dennis Davern and its VERY believable. Everyone thought there was something odd about Natalie's death. Its been explained at last. Robert Wagner is a sociopath, cold-blooded loser and I will bet he never even gets arrested. He has money and connections. I hope he rots in hell. Robert, there is an afterlife. And you will pay.

[vanessalove182]

@cubomania3 amen!

[1nycgal]

I HOPE THAT LANA GETS TO THE TRUTH. THERE HAS BEEN A COVERUP IN THIS CASE FROM THE BEGINNING. I AM SURE THAT, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, NO ONE BELIEVED THAT ROBERT WAGNER HEARD NOTHING IN THE WATER AND WAS NOT COMPLICIT IN THE DEMISE OF NATALIE WOOD. A REAL TRAGEDY.

[mansfield67]

I think the fight started in their stateroom and ended up on the deck of the boat. Wagner was pretty drunk that night, Natalie would never have left the boat on her own even if she did have a few drinks in her, I think in a rage he pushed her into the water and panicked. He probably untied the dinghy hoping she could get to it. But why did he not start yelling for the 2 other people on the boat to come and help ? Vanity ? Fear of newspaper headlines ?

[vanessalove182]

@mansfield67

because he was still and is still angry at Natalie! He untied the dingy either so she could swim to it and get in, or, later on after he knew she was probably dead, so it would look like she took it out herself.

Even now he is still angry with Natalie, accusing her of cheating on him with Christopher Walken in post-mortem biographies. He probably thinks "Well, she was going to leave me anyway, so I don't feel guilty for getting rid of her."

[mansfield67]

@vanessalove182 Thanks for your reply, I do hope they re-open this case and get to the real truth of Natalie's final hours. I suppose like O.J. and Robert Blake, Wagner feels justified in doing what he did... what a bastard !!

[KellyGreen5555]

@mansfield67 You must be out of your mind.

[johnnynl]

I Think Robert Wagner Did Kill Natalie Wood. How Could She Have Fallen Into The Water And Drowned While Trying To Tie The Dinghy? It's Just A Huge Lie. And Her Body Was Found Miles Away From The Splender. It's All Just A Huge Lie. He Must've Done it.

[vanessalove182]

@johnnynl yes he did kill her

[norb1937]

@johnnynl What goes around comes around. His career is in the dumpster. He's on tv selling reverse mortgages.

[vanessalove182]

@norb1937 his career was always in the dumpster. wagner's attempt to become a movie star was a failure and he never went beyond supporting roles. his TV shows were mediocre at best

[Muirmaiden]

Go, Lana, don't give up the fight. Wagner has been lying and covering his ass ever since that terrible night. Natalie and all who really loved her deserve to know the truth. Justice for Natalie!

[KatieAnd5a5ah]

In my opinion people try to gain control of themselves by controlling others, and he was out of control.

[KatieAnd5a5ah]

At the very least, something went wrong with this story. Walken seems like a nice enough guy. He gives a good speech in the movie "envy". Maybe Wagner felt Envy over Natalie?

[vanessalove182]

Wagner was extremely jealous of BOTH Walken (he believed that Natalie was cheating on him, and she told Dennis she was going to see a lawyer when they got back to L.A.) AND Natalie (he was jealous she was making a movie comeback because he couldn't be with a powerful woman).

Walken did NOT have anything to do with Natalie's death. He slept through it all. The only thing he is guilty of is agreeing with RJ to lie to the police.

[KatieAnd5a5ah]

It always seemed fishy to me, but I doubt we'll ever get any more information than what's out there.

[vanessalove182]

@KatieAnd5a5ah

Wagner will never admit to what he did to her. Ever, not even on his deathbed

[LiberalDemocrat83]

Reopen it. I say.

[alabhaois]

Natalie NEVER got over her fear of deep dark water

[xXrockstarak5xX]

why does at the end she say" the ACTORS! turned out dead "was'nt it only natalie wood that died that say?or did more people die and there not telling us about it?

[vanessalove182]

the announcer lady said "the actress turned up dead"

[MCLAMB4LIFE92]

I hope this time they find out the truth and natalie finally get's the justice she deserves.

[vanessalove182]

ATTENTION EVERYONE please rate 5 STARS

The Natalie haters/Wagner supporters are giving this low ratings so people won't watch it and learn the truth

[Xnicole1985X]

thanks for posting this !

[vanessalove182]

you're welcome!

[spokeshole]

I don't blame her.  I would have done the same thing only alot sooner.

[edstrat69]

I know how Lana must feel. I'm not even her sister, just a devoted fan, and I want answers too.