its nice to actually see an interesting argument with facts and numbers and people with more than half a brain who actually know what there on about :)
idk if u labled it wrong or what. cuz a rm 250 2 stroke has like 65 horsepower... a yz426f has about 40-50... a 2 stroke half the size will beat a 4 stroke twice the size
4 strokes dont blow a top end every two seasons, or two rides. which i experienced on my cr125. then i got a 426 and it blows every other bike i have ever ridden out of the water. the torque, where the torque is, how manageable the torque is, and how well it does 80 mph wheelies
@pissedatpez CR450s need more frequent valve adjustments than you think, like all the hot rod 450s. With a two stroke, if you do a top end rebuild once a season, it will cost basically nothing and is simple to do. When a four stroke drops a valve...lol, well you better have a sympathetic bank account.
@RagingInferno haha yeah i know, especially with titanium. ive just had really bad experience with two strokes, had one for a month, funnest little thing ever until i got it to a track and it went, after that the bottom end went the next ride with the freshly broken in top end,
2 strk or 4 strk. owned both. Depends on the rider preference. neither is better in my mind. i love my 426. used to have a 2 strk 250. all good too! nice thing about the 4 strk is yah dont run out of rpm as quick, the power is still there while crawling in a high gear.. deadly for climbing!
I wish I had a video camera. I watched my buddy's 97 RM125 beat a yz426 in a drag race. but besides that. 2 strokes are better IMO. I love my rm250. but honestly. if you want a 4t. good for you. when you buy 1 valve for the same cost that it takes me to rebuild my top end. we will see who is doing better. plus. the way i see it. if your scared of a 2 stroke? more for me to buy haha
o no buddy. ride a 250 2 stroke. twice the bike as a 250 4 stroke. cr500 > crf450 any day. but all in all........ to each there own. i really dont care 2 stroke can have bottom end power to. just man up and ride something bigger than an 80
fuck off you are so dumb.... what do you mean no bottom end?? all bikes have bottom end 2 or 4t/ its just a matter of traction and shifting. obviously you think they have no bottom end so there for you suck at riding a 2 stroke....
no you stfu. i ride a ktm 125 and i can ride slowly when the fuck ever i want. so fuck off. no its not all or nothing.... they make trail 2 stroke you stupid fuck/ you ride a ttr 125 FTW?
vurffer25 your an idiot there doing it because they dont make big two strokes anymore like the 490 or 500, if they still did everyone would still be riding them. the 250 2 stroke is at a power disadvantage compared to the 450 because you have to keep it in the powerband. and why are you making fun of them, what do you ride a pw50 or a tricycle with traing wheels
actually you can still order a cr500 from honda. they put the engine in a 250f frame.. its not regular production of course but it can be bought brand new
Service Honda - Nothing to do with Honda - A us private company) makes a CR500AF
CR500AF = 1987 motor in a 2009 CRF250R Frame.
They also make a KX500AF, (CR250AF 2002 motor / 2009 frame), (KX250AF 2004 motor / 2009 frame) - This has nothing to do with Kawasaki or Honda - It is a US company a bit like BBR.
They WON EVERY event and placed 1 2 3 all the way to 12/2005
JAPAN DECIDED TO GET 2 STROKE BANNED FROM PRO EVENT IN 06
Now 4T fools jump up and down when they win a race nobody else is allowed to race in - Sounds and looks stupid if you get excited about winning a race only you ran and wont allow anybody else to race in
someone on heres got it mixed up the 4 stroke has more torque and the 2 stroke usually has more hp. alota my buddys race and everything they say bout there 450s are to race one good then you gaotta be able to race a 250 like the best. the 4 strokes have so much more torque after owning both the 2 strokes fun and all but sometimes that down low torqe just isnt there when you need it.
Odd that the last fast CR250 was 2001 Almost 50Hp afer that heading down to 45hp - Dodgy exhaust / RC valve Last YZ250 was 2003 49Hp then DETUNED to 46hp via the CDi unit? ALL OTHERS AFTER THAT WERE DETUNED BIG TIME! WHY? 09 Maico 250 = 54hp 09 KTM 250 = 51Hp 09 KTM300 = 58Hp Japan told the AMA NOT to allow 2 stroke pro's in any pro event in 2010 or they would pull their bikes - Said on 10/09 during AMA rules meeting Honda had DFi in 1998 DFi = lower emissions than 4T BAN 4T?
@JustEnduro YOU SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT! WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME IN WHAT COUNTRY IS YAMAHA LOCATED? YOUR MISSING THE POINT. YAMAHA STARTED IT ALL WHEN THEY RELEASED THE YZ400F BACK IN '98. HMMMM, DO THEY ONLY MAKE FOUR STROKES? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THINK A LITTLE HARDER WHY DON'T YOU ABOUT WHY THE SPORT IS WHERE IT'S @!
@JustEnduro i agree with ya its the same reason they are trying to go with all electric cars like the gm volt its not to save the earth all that is a bunch of crap its to make more money electric cars cost more money to build an their batterys last not even half as long as a gas motor an cost 3 times more
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I've got 2 01' 426's. They are awesome bikes. Never had a problem with mine. They're really easy bikes to start if you know how. Just make sure the bike is in good condition, ride it through all the gears to make sure the transmission is good. They are beastly bikes!
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This is the dumbest argument there is, i do agree that 2 strokes are better top end bikes and are much lighter, but who can argue against the fact that the new 4 strokes are better trail bikes. But what matters is simply ride what your comfortable with and go out and ride. As a side note 2 strokes are much cheaper to get high horsepower out of that the 450's. I have a completely built rm 250, and nothing will touch it, including myself since it will flat out run out from under you...lol
Too Easy What wins EVERY major WEC event? Erzberg, Romaniacs, Lastman Standing, Tough One + If they ban the 2 stroke how can you compare? What were the laptimes for the 250's with RC JS TP in 03 What are the lap times now Torque - David Knight CLEARLY stated the 250xc had more torque than the 525 This is from the WEC who chooses to run a 250 in Lastman and 300 @ Erzberg Pastrana ran a RM250 @ Ertzberg in 08 What is RC TP riding now (Retired) personal choice JS prefers what 2T FTW
i work and tune dirtbikes for a living, i know almost every bike by heart and also if you think a 450 can beat a 500 two strock like a kx or cr then ur retarded cuzz i have a 99 kx 500 all aftermaket I MEAN EVERYTING... and i have a stock one too. the stock one can easaly smoke the new 450s but the 450 are a lil better at climing and trails... but the 500 wins overall. so dont be dissing on 2 strockes when you prolly havent even riddin one, and if you have it was prolly a pw 50 or somthin
Hey bud, if you actually work on and tune dirtbikes for a living like you say you do, then you should know how to spell 2-stroke properly not " 2 strocke". Any body who works on and tunes dirtbikes for a living would know that.
fucking spot on mate i was thinking the exact same thing why cant that dumb fucker spell 2 stroke :S:S: hmmm think he needs to take his face for a shit cos hes chatting crap !! xD
hahah lmfao pussylikka:S:S huuum sure buddy bet you avoid pussy cos your a fucking queer and you nonce up 6 year old out side a primary school , settle the fuck down big baller its my computer and keybored so i can type what i fucking like alright cock smoker ! get over it you queer pussy dodging fairy
yea sure mate im a queer pussy dodging fairy because the name pussy licker obviously means i hate pussy, your the gay cunt that videos his friends jumping down a fuckin bank.
What the fuck? A 450 Four stroke beating a 500 Two stroke? HA! What type or idiot are you? Like JustEnduro said, 65 horsepower for a CR500 and 53 for a CRF450R.
CRF450R Weighs 238.800 Pounds for 2009 Version the CR500 Weighs 238.1 For the 2002
Now, how could a 450 possibly beat the 500? Put down the crack pipe, get real.
There is more to going fast and winning other than just raw power (handling, rider, etc). Have you ever heard of tractable power? Stock both the CR500 and CRF450 have about the same power and torque (built things are different and both can practically rip your arms off). Again there is an old saying"there is no replacement for displacement" so the 500 should win anyway. But because a 2T fires every stroke it is essentially doubling displacement vs a 4T this is why they have to run bigger engines
US University have DFi 2T @ 300cc = 70Hp Evinrude scrapped 4 strokes due to cost, price and reliability. Rotax DFi = 130Hp from 600cc Snow mobiles going back to 2 stroke DFi Yamaha have rereleased a 2T DFi outboard range DFi 2 stroke is lighter on fuel has LESS EMISSIONS AND MORE TORQUE THAN 4 STROKE @ 2X the CC Should the AMA / Japan now ban 4 strokes? They wont...WhyProfits & parts maybe? KTM had DFi in 06/07 but like the $ from 4T Honda had DFi in 1998 4T=GOLD for makers!!
Fast = Suspension, Frame, Brakes, Power, Torque - You would come a distant second in any of these if Japan made a REAL 2010 2 stroke CC for CC or 2X the CC for 4T
Race = Cost, Reliability, Maintenance, Ease to start - Which one of these do you think 4T can pocket?
Hint= NONE
WHY DO WEEKEND WARRIORS APPLY AMA / FIM RULES APPLIED TO PRO's TO THEMSELVES?
99% Just bashing around a paddock every weekend - Still buy a bike that needs $1000 rebuilds if you ride it hard
Depends. In a straight line drag, the 250 beats the 250f for sure, on a track where rider skill is the main factor, then yes a 250f can beat a 250. I have ridden with plenty of 250's, 250f's and 450's and the 250f is definitely the slowest as far as acceleration/top speed goes, but in the corners the 250f gains some back because of its lighter weight. Personally I prefer my 450 over them all but it's more preference than anything else
The WEC (Not a wanna be) said in his own word CLEAR AS DAY LIGHT - The 250XC has MORE TORQUE than the 525exc! He chose the 300exc for Erzberg - The 250xc for lastman standing - 2 stroke have won more Enduro's in the last 4 years than 4 stroke has in 50 years! Enduro is the world or TORQUE!
Enduro Cross is won by ??? That is a free for all UFC style event - RIDE WHAT YOU WANT! NOT RIDE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD BY JAPAN / AMA!
MORE HP MORE TORQUE AND CHEAPER TO RUN = 2 STROKE!
I don't believe the cr500 had 65hp stock, I've ridden a built cr500 and there is now way it had more than 65-70 and it was built by pro-circuit. I would believe mid 50's stock sounds about right. And yes, a 450 could indeed beat a 500, it just depends on what you are doing. In a straight line the 500 wins, on a track where rider skill is important the 450 could easily win.
no wonder a 500 would woop on a 426s ass its a 500 and its two stroke two strokes are faster thats why 250f and 250 arent in the same class alot of people stopped riding two bangers becouse they take more maintanance with the engine and four strokes. 250 two strokes dont really have a class there slower than big four strokes and way to fast to race against 250f. and 70cc do make a difference a big difference
They DONT make a race 125 4T (WHY) They make a 150R that races in the 85 class They race a 125 2T in the 250 class. What planet are you from? Go look up the AMA rules and then come back LOL Enduro is owned by 2T Look up WEC & GNCC winners ALL the way to 09 (This year) KTM 200 / 250 / 300 has won more WEC races than any other bike. Who and WHAT WON - Ertzberg - Last Man Standing - GNCC 08 - Romaniacs. Lookup the above on utube You are kiding right NOBODY can be THAT out of touch
Yeah, but the TTR and KLX are kids/moms bikes not rice bikes. Can't even be compared to a YZ or CR. Those TTR's and KLX's will go hundreds and hundreds of miles without need any work whatsoever. Maybe an oil change once a year and a fresh tire. But again, they can't even be compared in the same sentence, but I'm sure you would know that more than most of the idiots on Youtube...
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Die hard 2 stroke fans. They just dont get it.
Go hop on a 450 4 stroke, or a 510cc ktm / husqy.
Now you'll realize why all normal, sane people ride them, and most pro's prefer them.
But yes, keep rambling off on 2 strokes, I couldnt get a fuck about your dynos comparing 250cc 2 vs 250cc 4, I could not CARE about cc for cc... 4 stroke is a better engine. A little maintenance ? Boo fucking hoo.
Riding takes money, deal with it. But rambel on, no ones listening, grand pa.
Congrats gradpa, im a kid with my own car / bikes / house(mostly paid, not entirely :( ), you think that counts for ANYTHING towards a discussion ? No.
Your ignorance is outstanding. You think because YOU think theyre better, they are. THey aren't.
Go look at the PRO circuit. Guys who ride for a LIVING. They compete 250 vs 450's. I dont see any 250s winning.
What ? You want them to race 500's ? I see deaths.
The power is stupid. unpredictible, untrust worthy.
watch?v=MeRYbYNZ3Ck watch?v=oiUAk49Qp3s watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 FIM is legalizing 2T for MX - WHY AMA FORCED to follow FIM FIM rules for 2010 = CC for CC Honda made it public that they are cutting back on sponsorship. Bike sales have dropped in the last 15 years There are less riders than ever B4 Why 1990 = 6 Privateers / 4 Pro's in MX 2009 = 0 Privateers / 10 Pro's in MX Less MX fans than ever B4 Why Less HP - less torque - unreliable - expensive You want to ride a YZ250=48Hp or a YZF250=35Hp
ok listen if a 4 stroke needs double the cc's to even catch up with a 2 stroke dont u think 2 strokes are better and if u still like 4 strokes better ur just scared of the power a 2 stroke has
i dont know i think their speeds are to close but motocross bikes arent made for speed they are for acceleration its not like your going to be doing top speed on a motocross track
Okay, for one, 250 Two stroke goes against a 450 four stroke, and since the 426 was made before the 450, doesn't it make sense that the 250 would give the 426 a good run?
YZF 426 Weighs 231 pounds
YZ 250 Weighs 212 Pounds. Both dry weight.
YZF 426 Has about 48 Horsepower
YZ 250 Has about 47 Horsepower. 426 Pushed one more horsepower, but also weighs more by about 19 pounds. Which would win? Pretty sure it's gonna be the YZ250.
What about the rider? Say 200lb vs 180? 20 lbs right there? And just peak power really means nothing. It's about how you can get to that power that is key. 20lbs between bikes will be equivalent to about 2 hp. And tractable power is something to consider also; between a 4T and 2T the 2T tends to spin on top of the ground and the 4T tends to dig more...
haha yeah init lol and the fucking honda engines are air cooled get a water cooled 4 stroke and they fucking own i love my 4 stroke never ever going back to a 2 stroke !
Dude, do you even know what a coma or a period is? It's hard to talk shit when your comment seems like a 1st grader wrote it. A 4T needs more displacement because it has half the power strokes as a 2T, thus double the displacement makes things fair. As far as per each power pulse, the 4T is more powerful, it just happens to fire half as often.
dumb cunt honda 1296 a 2 strokes 250 has the same amount of power as a 450 four stroke!!! so if u put a yz426f against a cr500 the fuckin 500 wuld obivously win
r u stupid . if a 125 2 stroke can keep up with a 250 4 stroke then a 250 2 stroke should have no problem keeping up with a 426 4 stroke . that just shows that 4 strokes kick ass bitch
4 strokes are better than 2 strokes because the have alot more of tork in them and they dont break down every min of the day sry for my spelling im from iceland
honda1296 that makes no sence do u now anything about to TWO strokes and FOUR strokes i just started riding and i probibly now more about your bike that you do. okay Two stroke means that piston comes up and down twice before getting a compession stroke a Four stroke goes up and down Four Times before gettiong a compression stroke. Thats y a two stroke rews and sounds so much more louder. In the moto cross racers they went from a 250cc two stroke to a 450 four stroke.
2T fire every time the piston gets to the top 4T fire every second time the piston gets to the top 1 stroke = piston moves up 1 stroke = piston moves down Every direction the piston changes in is called a stroke A crank that moves 360deg = Piston has moved 2 times Once up and once down. = 2 stroke 360 deg = 2 strokes - 720 deg = 4 strokes Reason they comp 2X the CC is that there 2X more explosions Modern 4T = over square motor = shorter stroke = less torque = more HP Thats it
wow you kids are retarded. it is because 4 strokes take longer to cycle meaning longer on the stroke. 2 cycles on a 2 stroke motor is one cycle on a 4 stroke. meaning twice the power out put at the same cc's.
and a 500 wouldnt have a chance anyways because they dont pull long enough
hey dumb ass. 1st off, a 426 vs a 500 is an obvious win it has more cc's and its a 2 stroke 2 strokes take off quicker but the 4 stokres have a higher top speed. your dumb as hell.
its rider in this race. i wouldnt want to top out a 2 stroke honestly I've done it with my bike and i always expect it to melt down. If the rm stayed on it all the way it would be even
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2 stroke better than 4 ?
Think again dumbass , why has the best 2 stroke bike maker in the world quit making them?
Honda ofcourse you scally.
Twice as powerfull for same displacement ?
is that why my 426 wheelies past any cr500 or kx500 ?
Get a clue mate you dont know shit , 4 strokes have alot me power , the torque from the 426 is unreal , so you carry on riding you bee in a coke can bitch
Yeah it was probably a short twisty track , i would beat a good rider on a 426 on a tight track 1 , because its more agile , and i know how to work the power on a 125..
haha. I entered a race this past weekend on my suspension mech's yz426. it was super dialed in. I loved it. So i'm goin to buy it. haha but i still ride an rm250 2t also. and i'll rape you on your 426 with my 250 2t. its not the bike. its the rider.
I dont even have to look at your channel to know your american , Arragantcy runs in your blood..
You dont know how i ride , so how can you make such a dumbass statment " i will rape you on your 426 with my 250 lol , highly doubtfull when i race with the 450's and do more than keep up..
hey well thanks for that luck there buddy. I just picked up my '08 yz450f(white) last night BITCH! haha! i'll upload a video later for you to drool over! i'd still mop you with my rm tho! So the answer to your question is yES! i have a 1997 rm250 and a '08yz450f with about 1:30 secs on the motor! ;)
@999HitMan666 2stroke vs 4stroke , remember? the 100 cc 2stroke races 200 cc 4stroke , thats the only fair way .
And wether you like it or not , 4stroke rulles in our days . I am a 2stroke guy but the trueth is we are a bit old fashioned . 4stroke motors are way better than ours. more power to the road and easier too.
My son owned the CRF150R - The YZ and SX 85 IS FASTER and lighter
Cheaper to buy, Cheaper to rebuild, Cheaper to service. ITS ALSO LIGHTER
What wins Endurocross? -> 1st 2nd and 3rd place against 450's
What wins EVERY extreme enduro?
A YZ250 can increase its HP by 10% to over 50hp for UNDER $500 - Thats a 10 year old motor with 450 like performance. It weighs 95kg Just a few more KG's than a 150R
Japan wants you to buy a 4 Joke - THEY MAKE BIG $
@tsakmakisd How did RC go on a RM250 in 2005 - He won 12 / 12 outdoor events
Search YouTube "CR250 vs"
The drags will be close - MORE than ½ of these the 250 will be infront. If its not infront its CLOSE. These are shot old prehistoric junkers VS nice new fresh 450's
Nov 09 FIM allowed 2 events in the PRO 450 class with a 250 2T
In 08 A DFi 2T had LESS emissions and lower fuel consumption than a 4 joke with 70Hp from a 300 motor. Why are the bike makers not making a Fuel Injected 2T - THEY MAKE A LOT LESS MONEY FROM 2T
Honda had a DFi 2 stroke in 1997 with 65hp from a 400 motor WHY DID THEY HIDE IT
WHY has a 2010 450 got less HP than a 1983 KTM500 @ 65hp
I love my 426! But yea not the best for woods trails.
vmaxrob82 1 month ago
I was hoping to see a video not filmed with a wristwatch.
Togpwnganje 1 month ago
@Togpwnganje Look at the date this video was posted...
whyzee491 1 month ago
I have now owned both of these... the 250 will destroy the 426 if you're in the woods, but in the open the 426 is incredible.
pissedatpez 3 months ago
I can count the pixels in this video on one hand
JuItomten 5 months ago
honestly all i see is 2 black squares going by....
SuWoopSitdown 8 months ago 3
its nice to actually see an interesting argument with facts and numbers and people with more than half a brain who actually know what there on about :)
smokeweedtilidie 1 year ago
nagrywane chlebakiem
grebur69 1 year ago
idk if u labled it wrong or what. cuz a rm 250 2 stroke has like 65 horsepower... a yz426f has about 40-50... a 2 stroke half the size will beat a 4 stroke twice the size
bountyhunterpro 1 year ago
2 stroke sucks
stjo5555 1 year ago
4 strokes dont blow a top end every two seasons, or two rides. which i experienced on my cr125. then i got a 426 and it blows every other bike i have ever ridden out of the water. the torque, where the torque is, how manageable the torque is, and how well it does 80 mph wheelies
pissedatpez 1 year ago
@pissedatpez CR450s need more frequent valve adjustments than you think, like all the hot rod 450s. With a two stroke, if you do a top end rebuild once a season, it will cost basically nothing and is simple to do. When a four stroke drops a valve...lol, well you better have a sympathetic bank account.
RagingInferno 1 year ago
@RagingInferno haha yeah i know, especially with titanium. ive just had really bad experience with two strokes, had one for a month, funnest little thing ever until i got it to a track and it went, after that the bottom end went the next ride with the freshly broken in top end,
pissedatpez 1 year ago
@pissedatpez
Bad luck mate. I've raced two stroke 250s (road racing mainly) and never had a single problem.
RagingInferno 4 months ago
@RagingInferno you know what's funny? I just bought an rm250. and I love it to death
pissedatpez 3 months ago
@world skater a ttr 125 is a 4 stroke
12345629026 2 years ago
you can ride slowly on a 2- stroke (trust me, i hav one) only on 125s load up quicker so u might hav to clean it out once in a while.
gibsonguitars9 2 years ago
2 strk or 4 strk. owned both. Depends on the rider preference. neither is better in my mind. i love my 426. used to have a 2 strk 250. all good too! nice thing about the 4 strk is yah dont run out of rpm as quick, the power is still there while crawling in a high gear.. deadly for climbing!
kelowna247 2 years ago
@kelowna247 4ts sound a hell of a lot better aswell
TheHondaAbuser 2 years ago
small world I live in Westbank
TheHondaAbuser 2 years ago
I wish I had a video camera. I watched my buddy's 97 RM125 beat a yz426 in a drag race. but besides that. 2 strokes are better IMO. I love my rm250. but honestly. if you want a 4t. good for you. when you buy 1 valve for the same cost that it takes me to rebuild my top end. we will see who is doing better. plus. the way i see it. if your scared of a 2 stroke? more for me to buy haha
IHateNissanTrucks 2 years ago 5
your Fucked. a 2 stroke has no bottom end. Which thats all it needs to make a 4 stroke better. And 2 smokes sound gay.
TheHondaAbuser 2 years ago
o no buddy. ride a 250 2 stroke. twice the bike as a 250 4 stroke. cr500 > crf450 any day. but all in all........ to each there own. i really dont care 2 stroke can have bottom end power to. just man up and ride something bigger than an 80
IHateNissanTrucks 2 years ago 4
I had a 450 but It was a HOT bike so I had to give it to the owner. OWned it for 1 day 5,000 gone
TheHondaAbuser 2 years ago
fuck off you are so dumb.... what do you mean no bottom end?? all bikes have bottom end 2 or 4t/ its just a matter of traction and shifting. obviously you think they have no bottom end so there for you suck at riding a 2 stroke....
worldskater31 2 years ago
lol what?? you cant slowly drive a 2 stroke. its always all or nothing. stfu you dont even ride a motorcycle.
TheHondaAbuser 2 years ago
no you stfu. i ride a ktm 125 and i can ride slowly when the fuck ever i want. so fuck off. no its not all or nothing.... they make trail 2 stroke you stupid fuck/ you ride a ttr 125 FTW?
worldskater31 2 years ago
ftw? i dunno what that means and I HAD a crf450r. and i responded to the 2 comments you posted, Now stop talking to me.
TheHondaAbuser 2 years ago
my yz250 2 stroke will blow dat shit
bansheerider27 2 years ago 4
4 strokes!
Giants17Kevin 2 years ago
vurffer25 your an idiot there doing it because they dont make big two strokes anymore like the 490 or 500, if they still did everyone would still be riding them. the 250 2 stroke is at a power disadvantage compared to the 450 because you have to keep it in the powerband. and why are you making fun of them, what do you ride a pw50 or a tricycle with traing wheels
coronermetl 2 years ago
actually you can still order a cr500 from honda. they put the engine in a 250f frame.. its not regular production of course but it can be bought brand new
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
Honda do NOT make a 2 stroke.
Service Honda - Nothing to do with Honda - A us private company) makes a CR500AF
CR500AF = 1987 motor in a 2009 CRF250R Frame.
They also make a KX500AF, (CR250AF 2002 motor / 2009 frame), (KX250AF 2004 motor / 2009 frame) - This has nothing to do with Kawasaki or Honda - It is a US company a bit like BBR.
CR500AF=$12000+ NOT CHEAP!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
alright chill out. all i was saying was you can still get one. who cares how much it is im loaded and have two
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
yea they do make big 2 strokes these days. The maico is back maico 500 67bhp and the maico 700 72bhp. never driven one but hey.
rx125r 2 years ago
also the 630 or something i cant remember..
worldskater31 2 years ago
pussy on the rm
TheMaster926 2 years ago 5
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they are banning 2 strokes because they r slow junk 4 strokes have power ,if 2 strokes were fast enough james stuwart would be riding one
vurffer25 2 years ago
dude your a dumbfuck
put a 250 4 stroke and a 250 2 stroke and see whos going to win
and last time i checked they were supposed to do that in 2003?
and guess what?! there making a 2009 yamaha yz250!
and the Ama is letting people race 265cc two strokes race next year!
450rvsyfz450 2 years ago
is the ama really letting people ride 265 two strokes?
paul1495 2 years ago
yeah
450rvsyfz450 2 years ago
That got cancelled by Japan in 10/2009
AMA will NOT allow that!!!!!!!!!
You will NOT be allowed to race any 2T in any PRO 450 or 250 class
JustEnduro 2 years ago
They WON EVERY event and placed 1 2 3 all the way to 12/2005
JAPAN DECIDED TO GET 2 STROKE BANNED FROM PRO EVENT IN 06
Now 4T fools jump up and down when they win a race nobody else is allowed to race in - Sounds and looks stupid if you get excited about winning a race only you ran and wont allow anybody else to race in
4T could only win when they banned 2T
EVERY PRO WAS SEATED ON 2T UNTIL 12/2005
What have the pro's retired onto
A NEW 4T or OLD 2T?
What will JS ride when he retires
JustEnduro 2 years ago 2
someone on heres got it mixed up the 4 stroke has more torque and the 2 stroke usually has more hp. alota my buddys race and everything they say bout there 450s are to race one good then you gaotta be able to race a 250 like the best. the 4 strokes have so much more torque after owning both the 2 strokes fun and all but sometimes that down low torqe just isnt there when you need it.
crf7212 2 years ago
you guys are gay.
BurningTirez 2 years ago
i heard it has something to do with emissions :-X
ShawnSpecial7 2 years ago
Nothing to do with emissions! NOTHING AT ALL!
Has everything to do with Japan trying to get them banned. They want you to buy an expensive bike with loads of parts and $1200 rebuilds
THEY stopped making them - WHY?
The Japanese want you to buy a 4 stroke. Its more $ for them more often.
Bit like trying to ban Daytona or F1 - What emissions do you think they have there?
MX is a race event by little ¼L motor not 50 7L V8s doing 500 laps
Japs ARE pulling the wool over your eyes!!!!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago 41
damn right
sinisterseven8 2 years ago 2
Hill0Billy 2 years ago 5
all i said was damn right bitch... whoa some badass we got here!
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
@JustEnduro YOU SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT! WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME IN WHAT COUNTRY IS YAMAHA LOCATED? YOUR MISSING THE POINT. YAMAHA STARTED IT ALL WHEN THEY RELEASED THE YZ400F BACK IN '98. HMMMM, DO THEY ONLY MAKE FOUR STROKES? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THINK A LITTLE HARDER WHY DON'T YOU ABOUT WHY THE SPORT IS WHERE IT'S @!
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tdcollector 1 year ago
@tdcollector lol he is just right.. doesn't make him a genius xD
denknietna 1 year ago
@JustEnduro is this true all you just think tht ??
codking4life 8 months ago
@JustEnduro i agree with ya its the same reason they are trying to go with all electric cars like the gm volt its not to save the earth all that is a bunch of crap its to make more money electric cars cost more money to build an their batterys last not even half as long as a gas motor an cost 3 times more
Richierich1285 5 months ago
I am looking at buying an 01 yz426f. Could anyone tell me if they r good or bad or if i would be better off with a 250
frahm666 2 years ago
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I've got 2 01' 426's. They are awesome bikes. Never had a problem with mine. They're really easy bikes to start if you know how. Just make sure the bike is in good condition, ride it through all the gears to make sure the transmission is good. They are beastly bikes!
JesseBoom700 2 years ago
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pusylikka 2 years ago
hey how much does it cost to rebuild yz426 motor. cause some guy is selling me one for 500$.. oh yeah n i also have an rm250..
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KrazyRMjumps 3 years ago
Top and bottom end? Not sure. I know 4 strokes are alot more explensive to rebuild then 2 strokes. They have alot more parts.
JesseBoom700 2 years ago 3
$1200 for the top end.
JustEnduro 2 years ago
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This is the dumbest argument there is, i do agree that 2 strokes are better top end bikes and are much lighter, but who can argue against the fact that the new 4 strokes are better trail bikes. But what matters is simply ride what your comfortable with and go out and ride. As a side note 2 strokes are much cheaper to get high horsepower out of that the 450's. I have a completely built rm 250, and nothing will touch it, including myself since it will flat out run out from under you...lol
justinray464 3 years ago
Hill0Billy 2 years ago 19
@Hill0Billy
TP or RC would win on anything 4T or 2T doesn't matter. They are in a world of their own.
trautmanbowler 1 year ago
i work and tune dirtbikes for a living, i know almost every bike by heart and also if you think a 450 can beat a 500 two strock like a kx or cr then ur retarded cuzz i have a 99 kx 500 all aftermaket I MEAN EVERYTING... and i have a stock one too. the stock one can easaly smoke the new 450s but the 450 are a lil better at climing and trails... but the 500 wins overall. so dont be dissing on 2 strockes when you prolly havent even riddin one, and if you have it was prolly a pw 50 or somthin
ummwillthishurt 3 years ago 4
Hey bud, if you actually work on and tune dirtbikes for a living like you say you do, then you should know how to spell 2-stroke properly not " 2 strocke". Any body who works on and tunes dirtbikes for a living would know that.
ipodsrdabest 3 years ago 3
fucking spot on mate i was thinking the exact same thing why cant that dumb fucker spell 2 stroke :S:S: hmmm think he needs to take his face for a shit cos hes chatting crap !! xD
bazilisginger 3 years ago
your giving this guy shit for not being able to spell a fucking word... who gives a fuck
pusylikka 3 years ago
hahah lmfao pussylikka:S:S huuum sure buddy bet you avoid pussy cos your a fucking queer and you nonce up 6 year old out side a primary school , settle the fuck down big baller its my computer and keybored so i can type what i fucking like alright cock smoker ! get over it you queer pussy dodging fairy
bazilisginger 3 years ago
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yea sure mate im a queer pussy dodging fairy because the name pussy licker obviously means i hate pussy, your the gay cunt that videos his friends jumping down a fuckin bank.
pusylikka 2 years ago
gezz almost non of you know what your talking about. If you think that 2 strokes dont have power, id like to see you ride a real one like 250 or up.
ummwillthishurt 3 years ago 3
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Your a retard , cr500's are old dogs..
any 450 from 01 upwards would eat a cr500..
Stop bumming your old 2 stroke and move to the future.
3DDDs 3 years ago
Service Honda CR500 = 65Hp
CRF450R = 53Hp
65 > 53
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
What the fuck? A 450 Four stroke beating a 500 Two stroke? HA! What type or idiot are you? Like JustEnduro said, 65 horsepower for a CR500 and 53 for a CRF450R.
CRF450R Weighs 238.800 Pounds for 2009 Version the CR500 Weighs 238.1 For the 2002
Now, how could a 450 possibly beat the 500? Put down the crack pipe, get real.
ryanthie 2 years ago 3
There is more to going fast and winning other than just raw power (handling, rider, etc). Have you ever heard of tractable power? Stock both the CR500 and CRF450 have about the same power and torque (built things are different and both can practically rip your arms off). Again there is an old saying"there is no replacement for displacement" so the 500 should win anyway. But because a 2T fires every stroke it is essentially doubling displacement vs a 4T this is why they have to run bigger engines
trautmanbowler 2 years ago
They dont have the same power or torque - Thats strong medication!
Easy to bash on a bike the Japs dont want you to have and successfully banned with a EPA RUMOR!
Yep more to it than just power YOU ARE 100% right HOW ABOUT RACE COSTS?
99% of the people on YouTube will never race because they cant afford it. NOT EVEN LOCAL. CAN YOU?
Traction is a matter of skill throttle control!
Results - What were the RC JS TP lap times for 250 in 03 vs 450 in 09?
1983 KYM500mx=65hp
09 MAico 250=54Hp
JustEnduro 2 years ago
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro I love rotax dfi e-tec snomobile yet I hate two stroke bikes.
mxracer150r 2 years ago
Fast = Suspension, Frame, Brakes, Power, Torque - You would come a distant second in any of these if Japan made a REAL 2010 2 stroke CC for CC or 2X the CC for 4T
Race = Cost, Reliability, Maintenance, Ease to start - Which one of these do you think 4T can pocket?
Hint= NONE
WHY DO WEEKEND WARRIORS APPLY AMA / FIM RULES APPLIED TO PRO's TO THEMSELVES?
99% Just bashing around a paddock every weekend - Still buy a bike that needs $1000 rebuilds if you ride it hard
THAT IS MAJOR DUMB!!!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@trautmanbowler youd be surprised but a 250f is just as fast as a 250 two
mxracer150r 2 years ago
Depends. In a straight line drag, the 250 beats the 250f for sure, on a track where rider skill is the main factor, then yes a 250f can beat a 250. I have ridden with plenty of 250's, 250f's and 450's and the 250f is definitely the slowest as far as acceleration/top speed goes, but in the corners the 250f gains some back because of its lighter weight. Personally I prefer my 450 over them all but it's more preference than anything else
trautmanbowler 2 years ago
The WEC (Not a wanna be) said in his own word CLEAR AS DAY LIGHT - The 250XC has MORE TORQUE than the 525exc! He chose the 300exc for Erzberg - The 250xc for lastman standing - 2 stroke have won more Enduro's in the last 4 years than 4 stroke has in 50 years! Enduro is the world or TORQUE!
Enduro Cross is won by ??? That is a free for all UFC style event - RIDE WHAT YOU WANT! NOT RIDE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD BY JAPAN / AMA!
MORE HP MORE TORQUE AND CHEAPER TO RUN = 2 STROKE!
MX WOULD BE THE SAME!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
I don't believe the cr500 had 65hp stock, I've ridden a built cr500 and there is now way it had more than 65-70 and it was built by pro-circuit. I would believe mid 50's stock sounds about right. And yes, a 450 could indeed beat a 500, it just depends on what you are doing. In a straight line the 500 wins, on a track where rider skill is important the 450 could easily win.
trautmanbowler 2 years ago
no wonder a 500 would woop on a 426s ass its a 500 and its two stroke two strokes are faster thats why 250f and 250 arent in the same class alot of people stopped riding two bangers becouse they take more maintanance with the engine and four strokes. 250 two strokes dont really have a class there slower than big four strokes and way to fast to race against 250f. and 70cc do make a difference a big difference
tyleryamaha 3 years ago
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Agreed.
Geez, most of the professional riders must be wrong, 4 strokes must suck.
Thats why they're the bike platform for basically EVERY form of motorcycle racing. Not all, but the vast majority.
2 strokes are fun, and a gas to ride, but I love my 4 stroke, and wouldnt trade for the world... or a CR500 (and ya, I have ridden one).
I love my YZ426.... BOTTOMLESS PIT OF TORQUE!
Bigboomer 3 years ago
What do Honda KTM Yam Kawa want you to buy
A motor thats cheaper to buy needs less parts that are cheap once a season
Or
A motor that was expensive to buy needs more expensive parts more often
Manufacturer problem how to sell a motor to you that they wanted you to have that also developed less Hp CC for CC
Answer detune the 2T No development BAN them Mount the Pro riders on 4T
Would you want a cheaper to buy motor that develops more HP was lighter more reliable and faster CC for CC
JustEnduro 2 years ago 4
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Your logic is fried. 125cc 2 strokes race 125cc 4 strokes, and they're comparable.
Secondly, ONLY in the world of competition jumping is a 2 stroke more advantageous.
When your in the bush (Where 99% of all dirt biking is done) the 4 stroke is better. More low end torque, more reliable, predictible power delivery.
4 stroke > 2 stroke. Get out of your grave old man and open your eyes.
Bigboomer 2 years ago
JustEnduro 2 years ago 6
I have seen more DNF's on 4T in enduro than I can count.
Bent / Burnt valves - Rebuilds after every other event.
The owners cant afford to keep the POS race ready and running as a privateer!!!!!
Why do you think there are more and more riders going BACK to 2t in enduro!
Even the pro's rather ride a 2T in the GNCC and WEC
Why is it ILEGAL to race a 250 2 stroke in the 250 class???? 35Hp vs 48Hp
A 2009 Maico 250 does 54Hp
Get a reality check
JustEnduro 2 years ago 4
You want to compare a TTR125 or KLX125 to a CR or YZ 125 - LESS than 8Hp vs 32Hp
Even a TTR125 on PCP would NOT catch the YZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM ROTFLMAO BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They DONT make a race 125 4 stroke!!!!
YOUR COMMENT IS FUNNY!!!!!!!!!
Like to see how many thumbs up you get to this LOL
JustEnduro 2 years ago 7
Yeah, but the TTR and KLX are kids/moms bikes not rice bikes. Can't even be compared to a YZ or CR. Those TTR's and KLX's will go hundreds and hundreds of miles without need any work whatsoever. Maybe an oil change once a year and a fresh tire. But again, they can't even be compared in the same sentence, but I'm sure you would know that more than most of the idiots on Youtube...
trautmanbowler 2 years ago
Quote - More low end torque, more reliable, predictible power delivery
1990 4 Stroke IS reliable NOT the 09 (Diffrent motor)
CC for CC THEY dont have more torque - There are thousands of dyno charts to be found on the web - Look it up
KTM 250xc vs Yamaha WR250
The WR250 loses in every way other than as you said "predictible power delivery"
The WR has NO power so YES it is predictable
CRF450 makes 53Hp WOW - 2 Stroke did that in the 70's and 80's They also did 123mph in the 80's
JustEnduro 2 years ago 8
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Die hard 2 stroke fans. They just dont get it.
Go hop on a 450 4 stroke, or a 510cc ktm / husqy.
Now you'll realize why all normal, sane people ride them, and most pro's prefer them.
But yes, keep rambling off on 2 strokes, I couldnt get a fuck about your dynos comparing 250cc 2 vs 250cc 4, I could not CARE about cc for cc... 4 stroke is a better engine. A little maintenance ? Boo fucking hoo.
Riding takes money, deal with it. But rambel on, no ones listening, grand pa.
Bigboomer 2 years ago
Being the grandpa I already own the home the car and the bike
Surprised that 4T fans will except half the power for double the price - Maybe 2T is to much for them
I ride at least 30 weekends of the 52 weeks in a year and have riden a lot of bikes
450's dont impress
99% of them going up and down the dirt roads NEVER ON A TRAIL
Cant see the facts that are clear as daylight in front of you
4T Riders are like Mushrooms kept in the dark and fed BS by manufacturers
Buy this BS
JustEnduro 2 years ago 2
Congrats gradpa, im a kid with my own car / bikes / house(mostly paid, not entirely :( ), you think that counts for ANYTHING towards a discussion ? No.
Your ignorance is outstanding. You think because YOU think theyre better, they are. THey aren't.
Go look at the PRO circuit. Guys who ride for a LIVING. They compete 250 vs 450's. I dont see any 250s winning.
What ? You want them to race 500's ? I see deaths.
The power is stupid. unpredictible, untrust worthy.
4 stroke > 2 stroke
Bigboomer 2 years ago
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2 stroke isnt as good as 4 thats all i got to say cus the other guys sumed it up
BT667 2 years ago
JAPAN paid the AMA to ban them
Greenies never banned them!
Would be like banning fuelers, drag events, Daytona or F1
If 4 Stroke is so good then 2 stroke would have died on its own NO NEED TO BAN
Why ban 2 stroke from races?
Why disadvantage them by racing a 250 in the open class?
Why FORCE ALL pro riders OFF the 2 stroke?
Even with the ban 2 stroke are STILL alive and kicking 15 years latter!
WHY BAN THEM - BECAUSE THEY WOULD WIN EVERY RACE
No $5000 rebuilds for a privateer
JustEnduro 2 years ago 4
I've owned three 2 strokes. I doubt I'll ever own another one, and it's not because I won't be able to get another one.
I ride a YZ426F now, and I love it. I see no reason to go back to another temperamental 2 stroke.
hammerhead300 2 years ago
No denying that a 426 was impressive for a 4T when it came out
No denying from a technology point a 4T has come a long way
The problem is when I ride a 426 it really is not that impressive No thrills No excitement
For me just nothing compared to a 300exc or a 250xc when it gets to big hills with rocks On a open trail a 300 is a blast of adrenalin
Constant BIG $ repair bills make me avoid a 4T
It is a personal thing - each to his own
I'm out there for the thrill
Big bore 2T delivers thrill
JustEnduro 2 years ago 4
JustEnduro 2 years ago 2
ANARCHIST %$# the AMA
Who would spend
$8000 on a 250 with 35hp then spends $1000 on a pipe to get to 36hp + $1000 PA to keep it going
Or
$6000 on YZ250 and get 45+hp then spend $500 on suspension getting it dialed in by a PRO + $200 PA to keep it going
Suspension is more important than HP
For $6500 you get a healthy dose of both
99% riders ride a local track for kicks NOT PRO and dont need to live with the rules made by the AMA.
DONT FOLLOW - LEAD THE WAY
ANARCHIST - %$# the AMA RULES
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
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yea the 426 wud beat the crap outta that little bike
tazer1281 3 years ago
ok listen if a 4 stroke needs double the cc's to even catch up with a 2 stroke dont u think 2 strokes are better and if u still like 4 strokes better ur just scared of the power a 2 stroke has
speeddemon157mph 3 years ago
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2 strokes dont have no power...
why'd you think you have to scream the shit out of it to move anywere holmes..
3DDDs 3 years ago
thats what a 2 stroke is made to scream at high rpms that were that power band is and have u ever riden a 2 stroke i bet u havent
speeddemon157mph 3 years ago
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I've both owned and ridden all 2 stroke's cc's you can imagine..
still id have a 4 banger any day.
3DDDs 3 years ago
well i dont no wat kind of 2 stroke u got but my yz85 is faster that my friends crf230f and i no how to ride trust me im in motocross
speeddemon157mph 3 years ago
it's only because the crf230 has the shitty honda engine..
if it was a crf150 it'd probably smoke you..
3DDDs 3 years ago
i dont know i think their speeds are to close but motocross bikes arent made for speed they are for acceleration its not like your going to be doing top speed on a motocross track
speeddemon157mph 3 years ago 5
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Well mate , ride a 426 and race it against any 250 2stroke and ill be supprised if the 426 doesnt win 7/10 times.
3DDDs 3 years ago
yea itts a yamaha so im pretty sure a yamaha will beat a suzuki
speeddemon157mph 3 years ago
Okay, for one, 250 Two stroke goes against a 450 four stroke, and since the 426 was made before the 450, doesn't it make sense that the 250 would give the 426 a good run?
YZF 426 Weighs 231 pounds
YZ 250 Weighs 212 Pounds. Both dry weight.
YZF 426 Has about 48 Horsepower
YZ 250 Has about 47 Horsepower. 426 Pushed one more horsepower, but also weighs more by about 19 pounds. Which would win? Pretty sure it's gonna be the YZ250.
YZF426 Would be eating a little dust.
ryanthie 2 years ago 4
What about the rider? Say 200lb vs 180? 20 lbs right there? And just peak power really means nothing. It's about how you can get to that power that is key. 20lbs between bikes will be equivalent to about 2 hp. And tractable power is something to consider also; between a 4T and 2T the 2T tends to spin on top of the ground and the 4T tends to dig more...
trautmanbowler 2 years ago
haha yeah init lol and the fucking honda engines are air cooled get a water cooled 4 stroke and they fucking own i love my 4 stroke never ever going back to a 2 stroke !
bazilisginger 3 years ago
Obviously you don't have a clue about anything mechanical
trautmanbowler 2 years ago
So obvious is it?
Please englighten me !
3DDDs 2 years ago
have rode a 1997 kx250 thay are fast then 2008 yz450f
WTFNOOB69 3 years ago 3
Why dont they make a
CRF85R to race in the 85 class?
OR
A CRF125R to race in the 125 class?
Why put a
150F in the 85 class
250F in the 125 class
They now call the old 125 class the new 250 class?
Why did the AMA Ban the 250 2T from the All new 250 class - 35Hp vs 50Hp
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
I wonder which one is screaming?????????
YZ85 = 23Hp @ 11000rpm
CRF150R = 23Hp @ 14500rpm
YZ250F=35hp @ 12000rpm
YZ250=48hp @ 8000rpm
CR500AF = 65hp @ 5600rpm
Higher RPM with 10X more parts = more or less problems?
I wonder which one is screaming for more parts more often?
JustEnduro 2 years ago 5
Dude, do you even know what a coma or a period is? It's hard to talk shit when your comment seems like a 1st grader wrote it. A 4T needs more displacement because it has half the power strokes as a 2T, thus double the displacement makes things fair. As far as per each power pulse, the 4T is more powerful, it just happens to fire half as often.
trautmanbowler 2 years ago 2
dumb cunt honda 1296 a 2 strokes 250 has the same amount of power as a 450 four stroke!!! so if u put a yz426f against a cr500 the fuckin 500 wuld obivously win
madmike69r 3 years ago 5
r u stupid . if a 125 2 stroke can keep up with a 250 4 stroke then a 250 2 stroke should have no problem keeping up with a 426 4 stroke . that just shows that 4 strokes kick ass bitch
Paisley37 3 years ago
YAMAHA FUCKEN DOMINATE!!
Paisley37 3 years ago
4 strokes are better than 2 strokes because the have alot more of tork in them and they dont break down every min of the day sry for my spelling im from iceland
kristinnreyr 3 years ago
honda1296 that makes no sence do u now anything about to TWO strokes and FOUR strokes i just started riding and i probibly now more about your bike that you do. okay Two stroke means that piston comes up and down twice before getting a compession stroke a Four stroke goes up and down Four Times before gettiong a compression stroke. Thats y a two stroke rews and sounds so much more louder. In the moto cross racers they went from a 250cc two stroke to a 450 four stroke.
AZSXDCFVGBHNJMK08 3 years ago
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
Yep, 4 strokes suck, that's why everybody in supercross and most of the professional motocross riders are riding them.
I owned several 2 stroke bikes, and I used to think they were great... until I rode a 4 stroke dirt bike.
hammerhead300 3 years ago
wow you kids are retarded. it is because 4 strokes take longer to cycle meaning longer on the stroke. 2 cycles on a 2 stroke motor is one cycle on a 4 stroke. meaning twice the power out put at the same cc's.
and a 500 wouldnt have a chance anyways because they dont pull long enough
99hayden99 3 years ago
hey dumb ass. 1st off, a 426 vs a 500 is an obvious win it has more cc's and its a 2 stroke 2 strokes take off quicker but the 4 stokres have a higher top speed. your dumb as hell.
flag9900 3 years ago
3ddds who cares if we are american you fucking lie about hitting a 240 foot table you faggot fucking brit
sjm1993 3 years ago
like i said before i have raced a 426, drag race it eats my 250 2 stroke up, but in the woods that heavy mofo can't touch me.
1998CR250r 3 years ago
yz426 owns evry bikes no exeptions!
DustDevil098 3 years ago
dude i know because i have raced them before, no exeptions my ass, lets get on a trail with some tight woods sections and see. lol
1998CR250r 3 years ago 3
M 250s own cunts
libaladylan 3 years ago
stfu the 426 if fast ok its a rm250 stfu watch the vid no reason to brag on the fuckin guy god stfu u retards
belardo666 3 years ago
no rm250 datz lik a rm80 or 125
YoungerPrice 3 years ago
since you obviously know what you'e talking about...
whyzee491 3 years ago
its rider in this race. i wouldnt want to top out a 2 stroke honestly I've done it with my bike and i always expect it to melt down. If the rm stayed on it all the way it would be even
sharpshot411 3 years ago
na no way mate
my RM250 only goes 140kmh
and my yz426 goes 150-170kmh
so the 4stroke chopps it
dylansparling 3 years ago
Never seen a MX track where you can do 170Kph
Neither of these bikes made for ROAD use!
The RM250 will never get to 140Kmh Neither will the 426F - They are MX bikes not a road bikes!
They might both do 200kmh down a mine shaft - LOL
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
426 is faster with equal riders any way u look at it.... 5 titanium valves...12.5:1 compression...come on
98ZJKE28 3 years ago
everyone think's 2strokes are better then 4strokes!!!!
i have a 2006 rm 250 and a 2005 yz 426
i no that my 426 would SMOKE my rm 250
dylansparling 3 years ago
2 strokes are better then 4 strokes, twice as powerful for the same displacement, alot cheaper, simple engine...
iwearfox 3 years ago 4
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2 stroke better than 4 ?
Think again dumbass , why has the best 2 stroke bike maker in the world quit making them?
Honda ofcourse you scally.
Twice as powerfull for same displacement ?
is that why my 426 wheelies past any cr500 or kx500 ?
Get a clue mate you dont know shit , 4 strokes have alot me power , the torque from the 426 is unreal , so you carry on riding you bee in a coke can bitch
3DDDs 3 years ago
i raced a guy with a 426 once, lapped him in 3 laps with my 125..
MxJohnny 3 years ago
Yeah it was probably a short twisty track , i would beat a good rider on a 426 on a tight track 1 , because its more agile , and i know how to work the power on a 125..
i still prefer my 4 banger :)
3DDDs 3 years ago
haha. I entered a race this past weekend on my suspension mech's yz426. it was super dialed in. I loved it. So i'm goin to buy it. haha but i still ride an rm250 2t also. and i'll rape you on your 426 with my 250 2t. its not the bike. its the rider.
lukelarsen08 3 years ago
I dont even have to look at your channel to know your american , Arragantcy runs in your blood..
You dont know how i ride , so how can you make such a dumbass statment " i will rape you on your 426 with my 250 lol , highly doubtfull when i race with the 450's and do more than keep up..
3DDDs 3 years ago
haha whatever kiddo. Come to california if you want to learn some REAL technique and learn how to ride with the big boys. later
lukelarsen08 3 years ago
Yet Again more Arragantcy..
REAL technique..
Aha , When you can clear a 240ft Table top on a cr125 , ill be prepared to listen to your crap son.
3DDDs 3 years ago
shows what a retard fuck you are. hittin a 240ft table on a cr125? big fuckin woop. no skill or technique. try again.
lukelarsen08 3 years ago
If you consider a 240ft Jump small then , who am i replying to.. pastrana ? , I don't think so..
And well done with pointing out my grammer , it's called speeding typing , i don't look at the keyboard or usually wtf im typing Everyone Does it ?...
Sorry my english isn't to your standard ?
LOLOL
Like i give a shit..
Do you even have a bike :l ?
3DDDs 3 years ago
hey well thanks for that luck there buddy. I just picked up my '08 yz450f(white) last night BITCH! haha! i'll upload a video later for you to drool over! i'd still mop you with my rm tho! So the answer to your question is yES! i have a 1997 rm250 and a '08yz450f with about 1:30 secs on the motor! ;)
lukelarsen08 3 years ago
btw. learn how to spell you illiterate little shit. what are you 13? Arragantcy? i kno what you mean but damn your retarded.
lukelarsen08 3 years ago
Why don't they make a race 85 or 125 4 stroke?
Why do you have to race a motor ½ the size against a motor twice the size?
CR85 vs CRF80F
CR125 vs XXX125 - They dont make one, Why
KTM144sx vs CRF150R - 144sx win
CR250 46Hp vs CRF250F 35Hp - CR250 wins
CR125 vs CRF100F - There is no comp here!
What do you think a bigger 2 stroke CR500 will do to a smaller 4 Stroke 450?
2t vs 4t is a bit like telling one team they have to race a 4cyl car in a V8 class
Why race a 125 against a 250 bit Unfair!
999HitMan666 3 years ago 15
same reason the 125's race against the 250f's the 4 stroke needs a bigger engine to keep up! :P lol
mxjunkie28 2 years ago
@999HitMan666 You are stupid. 2 strokes produce nearly twice the power compared to a 4 stroke. That is a given. It is completely fair.
steveak93 1 year ago
@steveak93 You seem to have a problem absorbing information???
Try to concentrate and read my post again!
Just incase you dont get it....I am saying 2 strokes have more HP than 4 strokes LOL
999HitMan666 1 year ago
@999HitMan666 So what is your point? LOL
steveak93 1 year ago
@steveak93 My point is that your not the sharpest pencil in the box
999HitMan666 1 year ago
@999HitMan666 exactly. the power to weight ratio on a 2 zinger is waaaaay bigger then a 4t. just not the torque. 2t for life man.
gnarlynipples 1 year ago
@999HitMan666 2stroke vs 4stroke , remember? the 100 cc 2stroke races 200 cc 4stroke , thats the only fair way .
And wether you like it or not , 4stroke rulles in our days . I am a 2stroke guy but the trueth is we are a bit old fashioned . 4stroke motors are way better than ours. more power to the road and easier too.
tsakmakisd 1 year ago
@tsakmakisd You have been conned by the Japs
My son owned the CRF150R - The YZ and SX 85 IS FASTER and lighter
Cheaper to buy, Cheaper to rebuild, Cheaper to service. ITS ALSO LIGHTER
What wins Endurocross? -> 1st 2nd and 3rd place against 450's
What wins EVERY extreme enduro?
A YZ250 can increase its HP by 10% to over 50hp for UNDER $500 - Thats a 10 year old motor with 450 like performance. It weighs 95kg Just a few more KG's than a 150R
Japan wants you to buy a 4 Joke - THEY MAKE BIG $
999HitMan666 1 year ago
@tsakmakisd How did RC go on a RM250 in 2005 - He won 12 / 12 outdoor events
Search YouTube "CR250 vs"
The drags will be close - MORE than ½ of these the 250 will be infront. If its not infront its CLOSE. These are shot old prehistoric junkers VS nice new fresh 450's
Nov 09 FIM allowed 2 events in the PRO 450 class with a 250 2T
KX250AF won its race OUTRIGHT Indoor
250sx won its event OUTRIGHT Outdoor
ALL the pro's ride what when they retire WHY
FMX uses OLD 2T's rather than NEW 450's WHY
999HitMan666 1 year ago
Why did Yamaha reintroduced a 2T outboard motor
Why did Evinrude SCRAP the 4 stroke
Rotax make a 130hp 600 Fuel Injected 2 stroke
In 08 A DFi 2T had LESS emissions and lower fuel consumption than a 4 joke with 70Hp from a 300 motor. Why are the bike makers not making a Fuel Injected 2T - THEY MAKE A LOT LESS MONEY FROM 2T
Honda had a DFi 2 stroke in 1997 with 65hp from a 400 motor WHY DID THEY HIDE IT
WHY has a 2010 450 got less HP than a 1983 KTM500 @ 65hp
2 STROKE REALLY IS BETTER!!!!
999HitMan666 1 year ago