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  • does anyone know were i can find the scene in enter achilles were the doll gets abused near the end, just need to recap it for my work and i cant find it anywere !

  • Great piece of physical theatre DV8 are fast becoming one of my fave choreographers! I do tend to look at there work when i do "twisted" or "dark" peices of work! :)

  • @Rhys1Anthony Is it safe to assume that L O V E is neither of these?

  • @meinnnit I have done choreography baised on love but i tend to be inspired by Martha Graham and JaQuel Knight when i do that because it is a more "normal" style if you get me? Like when i do comedy/ strong story baised choreography i am inspired by Bob Fosse and Fred Gaston. but every now and then it is good to mix it about and try new choreographic devices to other themes.

  • This piece is all about political and social views ... near enough everything is a metaphore drinking a pint is suppose to be a manly thing but when a gay person touches beer its different, its just showing how small minded people can be. If you think about what they are actually doing and read into it more than just homosexuals and blow up dolls its really intresting i love Dv8 their not afraid to show problems going on in the world!

  • Studying this at college, also basing our dance on DV8.

  • The guy that took the piss out of the gay guy, can't say much. He makes love to blow up dolls! haha

  • brilliant

  • Gay as fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @The336336336 glad you are so cultured!

  • ok and this is supposed to help me with physical theatre how. retarded teachers man. what a joke

  • Any chance in uploading the ful version please?

  • erm

  • ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME

  • VELKOMMEN TIL DANSEUNDERVISNING EFTERSLÆGTEN 2010.

    

  • Awesome

  • a teacher showed me this in PE and said i had to do a dance on it :L she didnt show me all of it but i watched it all anyways :L

  • Strange...

  • Incredible.

  • Quite brilliant artists. Manchester so much to answer for.

  • can anyone tell me what the music is in this.?it's grand.

    thanks.

  • male relationships are such a mystery to us women. this piece is tender and funny and explorative. yes, there are stereotypes here for us to laugh at and yet we still love men. bless them.

  • i actually think this is hilarious and want to hate it. but i cant help but think this is brilliant! hahaha.

  • we had to study this at college. BORING

  • has any one got the full version of Enter Achilles and if the have would the post it on youtube please i really need it right now (course work ) :(

  • Kill Me Now.

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  • shooot me

  • stunning

  • I have three DV8 videos and they are the TREASURE of my collection. Pure imagistic genius.

  • @mikeyirish1967

    fag.

  • just before this there is a song played, I think it's just before this scene and when they are moving the beers glasses around between them, anyone know what it is?

  • Wonderful. I have another piece from them still on VHS. I have to look for it. Thanks for posting this one. :-)

  • Great movement - shame about the politics.

  • Careful your mates don't catch you watching this one, they might just dance you to death! (And the politics are what makes the piece such an affecting work mate)

  • @Foleyesque

    I disagree - the sociopolitical message in this is the same as in every other DV8 production: "Aren't those horrible hetrosexual people just beastly to us sensitive gays". I can always admire the choreography, but the politics gets dull after a while. Charnock does the same thing with his solo work, too, and it's a waste of a decent dancer.

  • I see your point, but I think that's a sweeping generalisation of DV8's work and way off the mark. For example, does 'Enter Achilles' carry the same s-p message as say, something like 'Strange Fish'? I don't necesarily think the message is exclusive to gays - eg Strange Fish is exclusively about heterosexual couples, and I see Enter Achilles as more of a study of the male psyche.

  • Continued... Like it or not, it's a fair representation of what most heterosexual males represent. I know you probably disagree with me on this, but you know it's actually nice to have a decent discussion on here with someone who knows what they're going on about rather than being told to fuck off cos I disagree. Bravo. And at least we both agree the choreography is astounding.

  • @pfalconer The point of the piece i would say moreso explores the pains and initiations most men have to undergo to be accepted by their group's peck-mentality and society's 'lad culture' at the time it was created. The piece in no way compares the 'horribleness' of heterosexual men, it actually champions those heterosexual men who feel not the need to comform and ignore their own personal needs.

  • @littliput

    He means peck (for those who didn't pay for their education)

  • @pfalconer cont: Newson is also not trying to represent MOST or ALL heterosexual men, he is highlighting the extremes and the common stereotypes in order to encourage a viewer to avoid conforming to this stereotype, or making other men conform to it to feel accepted.

  • geniali

  • This ruined the image of Superman for me!

  • Brilliant piece which I still have on video from when it was first broadcast. I was also lucky enough to see it live in Leeds.

  • You know when somethings just amazing? Well thats DV8!

  • just great!

    dv8 have made some very lovable works which have always a good/smart point of view for life.

  • thanks, it's great!!!

  • thanks for posting this, helped me with my uni work =] xx

  • same! haha!

    Good old drama essay!

  • WONDERFUL!!!

    amazing!

    luv it

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