does anyone know were i can find the scene in enter achilles were the doll gets abused near the end, just need to recap it for my work and i cant find it anywere !
Great piece of physical theatre DV8 are fast becoming one of my fave choreographers! I do tend to look at there work when i do "twisted" or "dark" peices of work! :)
@meinnnit I have done choreography baised on love but i tend to be inspired by Martha Graham and JaQuel Knight when i do that because it is a more "normal" style if you get me? Like when i do comedy/ strong story baised choreography i am inspired by Bob Fosse and Fred Gaston. but every now and then it is good to mix it about and try new choreographic devices to other themes.
This piece is all about political and social views ... near enough everything is a metaphore drinking a pint is suppose to be a manly thing but when a gay person touches beer its different, its just showing how small minded people can be. If you think about what they are actually doing and read into it more than just homosexuals and blow up dolls its really intresting i love Dv8 their not afraid to show problems going on in the world!
male relationships are such a mystery to us women. this piece is tender and funny and explorative. yes, there are stereotypes here for us to laugh at and yet we still love men. bless them.
just before this there is a song played, I think it's just before this scene and when they are moving the beers glasses around between them, anyone know what it is?
Check out DV8's new live show, To Be Straight With You, whcih has just started touring the UK, France, and the USA. The trailer and tour dates are on youtube
Check out DV8's new live show, To Be Straight With You, whcih has just started touring the UK, France, and the USA. The trailer and tour dates are on youtube
Careful your mates don't catch you watching this one, they might just dance you to death! (And the politics are what makes the piece such an affecting work mate)
I disagree - the sociopolitical message in this is the same as in every other DV8 production: "Aren't those horrible hetrosexual people just beastly to us sensitive gays". I can always admire the choreography, but the politics gets dull after a while. Charnock does the same thing with his solo work, too, and it's a waste of a decent dancer.
I see your point, but I think that's a sweeping generalisation of DV8's work and way off the mark. For example, does 'Enter Achilles' carry the same s-p message as say, something like 'Strange Fish'? I don't necesarily think the message is exclusive to gays - eg Strange Fish is exclusively about heterosexual couples, and I see Enter Achilles as more of a study of the male psyche.
Continued... Like it or not, it's a fair representation of what most heterosexual males represent. I know you probably disagree with me on this, but you know it's actually nice to have a decent discussion on here with someone who knows what they're going on about rather than being told to fuck off cos I disagree. Bravo. And at least we both agree the choreography is astounding.
The point of this piece is not "Aren't those horrible hetrosexual people just beastly to us sensitive gays".. JK (superman) is not even specified as gay, rather as comfortable enough to act in the way he wants without specifying his sex.
@pfalconer The point of the piece i would say moreso explores the pains and initiations most men have to undergo to be accepted by their group's peck-mentality and society's 'lad culture' at the time it was created. The piece in no way compares the 'horribleness' of heterosexual men, it actually champions those heterosexual men who feel not the need to comform and ignore their own personal needs.
@pfalconer cont: Newson is also not trying to represent MOST or ALL heterosexual men, he is highlighting the extremes and the common stereotypes in order to encourage a viewer to avoid conforming to this stereotype, or making other men conform to it to feel accepted.
does anyone know were i can find the scene in enter achilles were the doll gets abused near the end, just need to recap it for my work and i cant find it anywere !
Dannisingh 9 months ago 2
Great piece of physical theatre DV8 are fast becoming one of my fave choreographers! I do tend to look at there work when i do "twisted" or "dark" peices of work! :)
Rhys1Anthony 11 months ago
@Rhys1Anthony Is it safe to assume that L O V E is neither of these?
meinnnit 10 months ago
@meinnnit I have done choreography baised on love but i tend to be inspired by Martha Graham and JaQuel Knight when i do that because it is a more "normal" style if you get me? Like when i do comedy/ strong story baised choreography i am inspired by Bob Fosse and Fred Gaston. but every now and then it is good to mix it about and try new choreographic devices to other themes.
Rhys1Anthony 10 months ago
This piece is all about political and social views ... near enough everything is a metaphore drinking a pint is suppose to be a manly thing but when a gay person touches beer its different, its just showing how small minded people can be. If you think about what they are actually doing and read into it more than just homosexuals and blow up dolls its really intresting i love Dv8 their not afraid to show problems going on in the world!
Contemporarydancer01 1 year ago 2
Studying this at college, also basing our dance on DV8.
lizziebetts 1 year ago
The guy that took the piss out of the gay guy, can't say much. He makes love to blow up dolls! haha
Mortimore008 1 year ago
brilliant
SuperVrum 1 year ago
Gay as fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The336336336 1 year ago
@The336336336 glad you are so cultured!
releasedanceleeds 3 months ago
ok and this is supposed to help me with physical theatre how. retarded teachers man. what a joke
BlackReachStudios 1 year ago
Any chance in uploading the ful version please?
c30hendrix 1 year ago
erm
newffree 1 year ago
ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME
Sosa202 1 year ago
VELKOMMEN TIL DANSEUNDERVISNING EFTERSLÆGTEN 2010.
NelliVideo 1 year ago
Awesome
kaheksandik 1 year ago
a teacher showed me this in PE and said i had to do a dance on it :L she didnt show me all of it but i watched it all anyways :L
ilovedemilovatosmile 1 year ago
Strange...
missbabyice 1 year ago
Incredible.
amydbabe1 1 year ago
Quite brilliant artists. Manchester so much to answer for.
shakiMiki 1 year ago
can anyone tell me what the music is in this.?it's grand.
thanks.
badabing123100 1 year ago
male relationships are such a mystery to us women. this piece is tender and funny and explorative. yes, there are stereotypes here for us to laugh at and yet we still love men. bless them.
badabing123100 1 year ago
i actually think this is hilarious and want to hate it. but i cant help but think this is brilliant! hahaha.
ReeshDoom 1 year ago
we had to study this at college. BORING
XxXKinkyKimmyXxX 1 year ago
has any one got the full version of Enter Achilles and if the have would the post it on youtube please i really need it right now (course work ) :(
kinkykel69 1 year ago
Kill Me Now.
BeccahEmily09 2 years ago
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BeccahEmily09 2 years ago
shooot me
PsychicRowan 2 years ago
stunning
ladournie 2 years ago
I have three DV8 videos and they are the TREASURE of my collection. Pure imagistic genius.
mikeyirish1967 2 years ago 13
@mikeyirish1967
fag.
mutethisboy 1 year ago
just before this there is a song played, I think it's just before this scene and when they are moving the beers glasses around between them, anyone know what it is?
ojxxx 2 years ago
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Check out DV8's new live show, To Be Straight With You, whcih has just started touring the UK, France, and the USA. The trailer and tour dates are on youtube
talalyusuf78 3 years ago
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talalyusuf78 3 years ago
Wonderful. I have another piece from them still on VHS. I have to look for it. Thanks for posting this one. :-)
BaerchenprinzBln 3 years ago
Great movement - shame about the politics.
pfalconer 3 years ago
Careful your mates don't catch you watching this one, they might just dance you to death! (And the politics are what makes the piece such an affecting work mate)
Foleyesque 2 years ago
@Foleyesque
I disagree - the sociopolitical message in this is the same as in every other DV8 production: "Aren't those horrible hetrosexual people just beastly to us sensitive gays". I can always admire the choreography, but the politics gets dull after a while. Charnock does the same thing with his solo work, too, and it's a waste of a decent dancer.
pfalconer 2 years ago
I see your point, but I think that's a sweeping generalisation of DV8's work and way off the mark. For example, does 'Enter Achilles' carry the same s-p message as say, something like 'Strange Fish'? I don't necesarily think the message is exclusive to gays - eg Strange Fish is exclusively about heterosexual couples, and I see Enter Achilles as more of a study of the male psyche.
Foleyesque 2 years ago
Continued... Like it or not, it's a fair representation of what most heterosexual males represent. I know you probably disagree with me on this, but you know it's actually nice to have a decent discussion on here with someone who knows what they're going on about rather than being told to fuck off cos I disagree. Bravo. And at least we both agree the choreography is astounding.
Foleyesque 2 years ago
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The point of this piece is not "Aren't those horrible hetrosexual people just beastly to us sensitive gays".. JK (superman) is not even specified as gay, rather as comfortable enough to act in the way he wants without specifying his sex.
littliput 1 year ago 2
@pfalconer The point of the piece i would say moreso explores the pains and initiations most men have to undergo to be accepted by their group's peck-mentality and society's 'lad culture' at the time it was created. The piece in no way compares the 'horribleness' of heterosexual men, it actually champions those heterosexual men who feel not the need to comform and ignore their own personal needs.
littliput 1 year ago
@littliput
He means peck (for those who didn't pay for their education)
mutethisboy 1 year ago
@pfalconer cont: Newson is also not trying to represent MOST or ALL heterosexual men, he is highlighting the extremes and the common stereotypes in order to encourage a viewer to avoid conforming to this stereotype, or making other men conform to it to feel accepted.
littliput 1 year ago
geniali
alefabbri 3 years ago
This ruined the image of Superman for me!
Budwhite03 4 years ago 10
Brilliant piece which I still have on video from when it was first broadcast. I was also lucky enough to see it live in Leeds.
quintocranus 4 years ago
You know when somethings just amazing? Well thats DV8!
ellonibbles 4 years ago 2
just great!
dv8 have made some very lovable works which have always a good/smart point of view for life.
kateniki 4 years ago 2
thanks, it's great!!!
mayrami212 4 years ago
thanks for posting this, helped me with my uni work =] xx
laurendancer88 4 years ago
same! haha!
Good old drama essay!
WideAwakeAsleep 2 years ago
WONDERFUL!!!
amazing!
luv it
briguilim2 4 years ago