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  • Too much awesome in this video. Not only do we need more comics like Stewart, Maher, and Bremner, we need more journalists like Frost.

  • What did Jon Steward say at 1:12? I couldn't quite understand it.

  • @Connectification1993 satirist and a demi-god

  • @eidius1989 DEMAGOGUE.

  • @Connectification1993 Comedians can't change the world

  • @viralvulture He said demagogue, you completely missed the point.

  • Maher is a goddamn hero.

  • @Benjoematic Eminem is a superhero.

  • not enough rory bremner in this video.

  • I feel as though John Stewart is to Goku as Bill Maher is to Vegeta.

  • john stewart is so fucking cute!

  • @talkindurinthemovie you got bad taste in men.

  • If you're that insecure that you'll kill anyone who makes fun of your stupid beliefs, you're too stupid to understand why we're laughing at you.

  • @slimininin Why? Because Maher isn't afraid to step on toes? I respect Bill Maher because he deliberately tries to confront people's assumptions and polite taboos. We need more people like him. Jon is great too, but he doesn't usually push boundaries in the way Maher does. Maher makes people uncomfortable and that's much more difficult.

  • @rastamasta91 no, it's because Maher uses really really bad humor and defends it in the name of "political incorrectness"

  • To wrap up my rant, I will say my main point is stay away from News channels folks. It is bad for you. Unless it is local news and you are bored out of your mind. ( :

  • The only thing I like about Jon Stewarts show(even though I don't watch it,) is it cancels out and competes with "real" news shows like Fox and MSNBC. And the funny/ironic thing is since it is common sense(which is the reason I don't watch it,) it is more real than Fox or MSNBC. Because those are news networks that try to change your thinking and conform it through propaganda so you get a twisted view of the way things really are.

  • But I can tell you why people love to watch it. Because it correlates with what they know or believe. So they can watch and go "haha he's right." Not "haha, that's funny." In other words, it's common sense for your brain to fry with. And since it is "common sense," there is no reason in watching and thus your brain frys because it doesn't learn anything from it. ( :

    But then again, even though I bashed it, all major news networks are that way from Glenn Beck to Ed on MSNBC. ( :

  • @CheddarBob39 thats how comedy is making fun of reality and the situations that occue in life.....you can say the same thing when chris rock makes jokes about black women....or any racial joke you laugh not only its funny but it makes sense and it is plausible in a real situation...sure comedies will make a clever joke on nothing but 80% are jokes where u can laugh and relate too....

  • I am bored so I will keep typing because I find it enjoyable. ( :

    I don't really watch Jon Stewart but I don't have a problem with it. It is just a bunch of jokes with a hipster bias. In other words, a bunch of shit that you can't do anything with. Zero workability. Nothing that will help you or anybody else in any way.

  • And if you make fun of Jews and aint Jewish, you will lose your job and life savings.

  • so only conformist societies can become polarized to the current extent. That's a pretty good insight.

  • I like how JS admits it's not really effective.  I've often thought that comedy doesn't really inspire any action. It satiates people. "I'm smarter than_______, look at the stupid things he/she said/did..." and then people go to sleep thinking they're smarter than the rich and powerful, and they're not. Royalty LIKES to have jesters poke fun at them when it spurs inaction in this way...it takes pressure off.

  • @newguy33X Comedy's job isn't necessarily to bring about action, but to expose the truth, ugly and all, about a society. You mentioned jesters, but got it wrong about their role in the kingdom. They were there to make fools of themselves to amuse the royalties. Because they are fools, it becomes beneath anybody to take them seriously, so they can mock and the kingdom and the rulers. That lead to today where we have a comedic tradition of making social commentaries.

  • @Judas1of12 well said

  • @newguy33X

    Very well said. But even if it doesn't inspire action, people still find it funny. And where is "John Stewart?" That's right, comedy central. ( : And yes, as Judas1of12 said, you can still make points and expose truths through comedy as well. But you do make a good point, people who cling to this type of stuff(satire) usually seem to be narcissists who think way to highly of themselves and are usually not as smart as they think they are. : D

  • @newguy33X

    In other words, a lot of viewers who follow progressive politics(I guess we could call it,) are pretty dumb and can comprehend jack sh**. But I guess they do feel they know what is right and maybe do. But knowing what is right and wrong does not make you "intelligent" per say. You could just be an egotisical cunt which I am sure half of the people are that watch it and love to feel "smart" because they watch those shows even though it doesn't make them smart at all.

  • @newguy33X

    If anything, it just keeps them up to date on current events. ( : With of course a host making jokes with a bias of some sort. But usually the bias is progressive in shows like Jon Stewart which isn't really a bad thing, but it sure isn't going to make you intelligent. lol.

  • Damn, Frost looks old now.

  • im confused whether if i will continue to give faith

  • "This country is not overrun with rebels and free thinkers. It's overrun with sheep and conformists."

    That was good!

  • I do watch him and I don't like him! He's dishonest.

  • @ronaldinho1977mo if you dont mind sharing ,a specific example?

  • If Jews or Christians were treated to the same degradation of their religion as Muslims in the so-called "free" West... the same people claiming the "liberty" to shit on other people would be crying to the heavens. It's amazing. The US is waging war and occupying several countries in the Middle East, backing up dictatorships and corrupt monarchies and Israel. Seriously. It's gross. Then you make jokes while other people face the bombs and missiles and torture centers. It's apology for terrorism.

  • @JayBroquet You are a complete fucking idiot, why don't you pull your head out of chomsky's ass and examine the treatment of religious minorities were islam is dominate. You fucking moron.

  • @JayBroquet Wow you couldnt even get past one sentence without making yourself look foolish.. Have fun being morally blind and an intellectual coward

  • Zionists want the prophecies in the bible including revelations to happen so they can get to the promise land and so forth 1000 yrs of peace blah blah blah they work toward created a means to an end. MAKE ARAGEDDON HAPPEN AS REVELATIONS SAYS SO... sounds dam devilish to me...lol IF YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THAT CRAP..lol

  • this is why i like jews

  • Funny how Bill Maher says he doesn't conform! He is the most conformist of them all. Try to tell him something that's against public opinion, and he always shoots it down.

  • @ronaldinho1977mo You obviously don't watch Bill Maher. Are you a truther perchance?

  • @johnedwards1968 no he is a Birther more than likely

  • Rory was right in asking "What can you do?" when dealing with satire and ignorant extremists, because one person would be in danger if they continued.

    .

    BUT thanks to the internet, that danger was diffused among thousands of people who took part in "Everyone Draw Muhammad Day", which allowed people to stick up for the West's value in free speech. As if to say "Here's thousands of images, so fuck your death threats and good luck finding all of us". Not all art was negative either.

  • @BlackRoof how so?

  • @BlackRoof and your a fucking moron..

  • @Eclipsepctech A moron who tells the truth!

    A MORON WHO CALLS FOR ISRAEL'S CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY TO BE ANSWERED FOR!

    A MORON WHO SEES ZIONISM AS THE NATIONALIST LIE THAT IT IS, BASED ON VIOLENT, SUPREMACST, ETHNIC AMBITION AND NOTHING MORE.

    Zionism has NOTHING to do with religion. It is A POLITICAL LIE dressed up to fool stupid people and press all the Jewish "loyalty" buttons in just the right places.

    WAKE UP!

    Israel is a TERRORIST, ZIONIST JUNTA and an insult to Judaism!

  • @BlackRoof

    yes you are a moron and you are saying these things.... the reality is that the stupid shit that you are writing has nothing to do with reality.

  • @BlackRoof YOU HAVENT BEEN IN ISREAL HAVENT YOU SO PLEASE SHUT IT YOUR IGNORANT what is the meaning of zionism answer me

  • fuck em bremner u gotta be brave. no matter what. people make fun of christianity, catholisism and other religions u can make fun of islam too. we are all human beings who will one day realize that religion does not exist no matter what religion u believe in. If people would realize this then everyone on earth would really understand that this life is truely fragile and that everyone only gets 1 chance. If people believed in humanity instead of religion then this would be a better world. 1 LUV

  • Dutch gaming magazine Power Unlimited has given the game a score of 94%, along with a “Gold Award.” In comparison, they gave Uncharted 2 a solid 100% back in 2009, and in this same issue, they’ve given Gears of War 3 a 96%.

  • I don't really have a "line" where its gone too far, as long as it makes me laugh, and was intended to do so, then i could careless. it could be about a jewish aborted fetus in the twin towers, and if its funny, ill laugh. :/

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  • Frost should be talking to the real master of satire, Stephen Colbert

  • 'Comedy' (what they're calling "satire") is so 'offensive' because it's makers don't have to weigh 'good and bad.' i.e. they deny ever "growing-up" ('eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil') ... as if crazy-awesome happens without the sacrifice of sane-average.

  • @mythmanjay i find other then online news blogs, comedians are the only ones that are honest....

  • @ohbuddyiliketowatch 'i find other then online news blogs, comedians are the only ones that are honest....' As far as their networks will allow it. Look at the 2009 South Park season. Just bury your head in the sand. Comedy Central still refuses to show a picture of Mohammed. Everyone buries their head in the sand like an Ostrich - and the Muslims make a nasty video in retaliation.

    Larry Flynt. Over the line? Larry Flynt. He paid with his legs. 1rst Amendment case.

  • @ohbuddyiliketowatch you know who else is honest, at least about world events? oddly enough, day traders. i don't trade or invest at all, but i sub to several trader vlogs because it's all about what is most likely to happen. their view is unencumbered by bias because it needs to be if they are to going to profit. so you have to sit through a lot of numbspeak about downside risk or elliot waves, and a lot of callous, cold prediction of disaster, but you get truth. sort of.

  • @mythmanjay Actually, they accept the truth that the common man refuses to see and choose to make it humorous, rather than tragic, in translation."Smile, though your heart is aching. Smile, even though it's breaking. When there are clouds in the sky, you'll get by.." There is more ground to be gained in "honey" than "vinegar" in almost every instance. When a smile costs nothing, an angry word can cost everything. Finding the humor in the absurd is the key to bringing about its demise.

  • This is fantastic...thanks for posting!

  • @ronaldcorreatv what are you talking about? Stewarts part made perfect sense. He was simply talking about his craft and how he is able to break through to his audience and the effect that his topics of discussion have on him personally.

  • Taxes pay for things we want and need, as well as other things we neither want nor need. That's just the way it is, so focus on what your taxes buy you (roads, libraries, clean water, parks, etc etc) and count yourself lucky you live in a country where corruption isn't an epidemic. Trying to assign blame on a particular politician for the current state of world economics is a fools game, there are far to many factors involved to make a cogent argument.

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  • With what Rory Bremner said, you have to love South Park, only they're foolish enough to call out Muslim Extremists.

  • @darexinfinity That's also because no one really knows who they are. Even so, they do have humongous balls. xD

  • @darexinfinity no they're not- they're cartoon was censored, but I guess that's Comedy Central's and not South Park's fault.

  • @tylertyler82 Listen to the last 15 seconds the video before replying.

  • @darexinfinity replace foolish with brave

  • @CambridgeHeights Read my responses to other people who replied to me before replying...

  • @CambridgeHeights no it's not brave it's foolish.

  • @jamieelynnx Why is it foolish to stand up for reason and freedom and call out extremists?

  • @darexinfinity Clearly you don't follow world news. Try googling "danish cartoons mohammed".

  • @caprildk That was a long time ago (for me at least), and if that incident never happen then the silent rule to never draw Mohammed would of never existed. Therefore someone from the U.S. would of drawn him earlier (hopefully) and if he got attacked, then the movement against the extremists would be stronger instead of having a silent rule of fear.

  • Presumptious 

  • This is my opinion Fuck them if people don't want to laugh or if Muslims or anyone wants to kill you because you made a comment they hate. They are ignorant sons of bitch who don't want to come to terms with reality. fuck them

  • Interesting clip. Jon Stewart will need to run after Obama's term (8 years). The pendulum will have swung back to the right by then. The new creepy police state conservative/religious right that the majority do not actually support, but were too apathetic/disenfranchised to vote against, will gain power and then you will see a really ugly America that will tolerate no discent and cement state powers over liberty and freedom. 10 years from now. A nightmare scenario for rational everyday people.

  • @rm2551 Created a healthcare, in which half of america is against because it's mandate is unconstitutional. Get us into Yemen and Libya, while not pulling us out of the wars he promised to. Extended the patriot act. Does nothing about sealing our borders, and is the laughing stock of the world. Tell me what has he done good? Pour money into the economy to spur it for a moment, to only crash back down like its doing now? If you dont adress the actual problem, then the problem will continue.

  • @slashboy346 Extending the patriot act, surprising. It seems nothing can stop the march toward the police state you are slowly but surely becoming.

    What has he done good? He wants to engage politically with the world instead of going it alone. He had to repair a lot from the neo-cons lack of engagement.

    and do you really thing tax cuts for the rich was the saving policy for the shit you are in? The Repulicans serve the rich. Personally, I think the best thing the US could do is vote in Ron Paul.

  • @rm2551 the healthcare debate is insane. Insurance Giants whose priority by law is to make the shareholders profits before any other consideration, runs the system. While Obamacare might not be popular, universal health care as is present in every other developed western country, is a GOOD THING. The whole "watch out! it's socialism!!!" argument is ridiculous.

  • @rm2551 Bush's vision for a democratic middle east was laughed at. He was spot on. And the peoples of some backward countries are finally pushing for a better system.

    Obama promised much. Too much. He should have known he had to work within the political system which all but barrs any real and fundamental reforms. He now looks so weak it is ridiculous. One thing about the right, they don't bend as much. Compromise does not equal settling for a lot less. Obama could take a leaf out of that book.

  • @rm2551

    I agree with most of that. I am not a blind fan of Obama, or of anyone. Bush was right to go into Iraq. The idiot posed a huge threat to allies. That alone under UN rules allows military action.

  • @rm2551 I can respect that your not one of his blind followers, but I disagree on Iraq, we should be out of there. We have no proof that they themselves were behind 9/11 or have any wmd's. I dont like the UN or Nato, because when one country goes to war, they see it fit that everybody sends troops. This can cause blowback..

  • @slashboy346 Of course they were not behind 9/11. It was never in question except for some far right mouth pieces thinking they were serving the republicans by spewing such complete rubbish. Saddam was secular. Al Quaida considers that system "the enemy". The problem with Iraq was it was packaged and sold to the public wrapped in a lie. And it was simply they thought the public would more easily get on board than to simply say it was strategically important to the US and allies.

  • @rm2551 I agree, the neo-cons were the main push for the war. Im not a conservative, im a libertarian. And proudly so. The bottom line with Iraq is that both partys voted for it, hilary clinton even did, they had a vast majority in congress on the decision. Two candidates that didnt were Obama, and Ron Paul. I like Ron Paul because he shares my views on alot of things. I liked Obama, before he lied to his fanbase completely.

  • @rm2551 I never said I was for the rich, im just saying that didnt spawn that deficit like the democrats stupidly spray. When we taxed the rich heavily it was only 10% of the total surplus, the rest was from him increasing taxes on the middle class alot, and then cutting back on government programs. Wait repair alot of engagement? Engagement in war? haha you just contradicted yourself big time. I am a very big Ron Paul supporter, Ive been a libertarian for four years. (Since I was 12)

  • @slashboy346 Obama did repair a lot of cold relationships with a lot of allies. Bush and the Neocons isolated the US more than it presented leadership that allies were on board with. Which in itself is not a bad thing, except there was no acknowledgement or effort to build bridges. Bush was not popular almost anywhere. That is the fault of the Neo-con strategy deployed.

  • @rm2551 I was just trying to prove that democrats are just as stupid as republicans, yet you for some reason believe differently. Obama has got us in 2 wars, failed to decrease the deficit, failed to stop the patriot act (He promised his fanbase he would as well as promising to pull us out of both wars.) Obama lied completely to his fanbase, which still stupidly follow him. If he would have stuck to what he promised I would like Obama but he didnt.

  • @slashboy346 No, I agree. Although I wouldn't use the word "stupid". Both parties work within a completely corrupt and stagnant system. The American political model all but stifles real reform and is dangerously exposed to political extremes of either persuation. You get a largly disenfranchised majority, and a charismatic nut bag, you potentially have a president that could bring you down.

  • @rm2551 I agree with you saying there both corrupt, because anybody with a halfway decent IQ could see that, I dont agree with Obama repairing alot of cold relationships, the only thing he done to create a relationship I seen, was when he told Israel to go back to its old borders, I support Obama on this. On the other hand he gave the bust of winston churchhill (A gift from england way back) back to them, which was a huge insult. So far I cant agree with you on obamas repairing.

  • @rm2551 

  • I haven't seen Rory Bremner in ages. What the hell is he up to at the moment? (His Silly Money series was great.)

  • this faget got famous for protaying someone who smokes weed in the movie half baked

  • god is logic = theoreticalphysics.webs.com

  • 3:00 - 3 :13 is the greatest quote I've ever heard.

  • maher and stewart's attitudes are different on the social problems and how people should take actions in order to fix the problems, and it makes the two shows have different result and reflection. at the end, it is not any more a different of attitude or opinion but a different levels, maher is more sharp and deep, stewart is more relax and popular.

  • great vid.

  • This video won't play for me in un-interupted fashion. I've tried three different browsers, and I've even tried downloading Adobe Flash Player again. I don't know what the problem is. I'm simply giving up. Sorry. I really wanted to see this content.

  • Jons wearing a rug... He's bald in the back.

  • Bill and Jon the greatest!!! Great stand up comedians too

  • Jon Stewart was so right when asked where the line is. It's different for everyone

  • if you're agnostic, technically you're an atheist too, right? Because I don't have a BELIEF in a God. At the same time, I'm not saying there isn't one. That's why I like the term agnostic. It's saying, " I just don't know." All options are open and free thought is limitless

  • @Myfriendfats8 yes and no. you can be agnostic theist (you dont KNOW if there is a god but you BELIEVE there is) you can also be agnostic atheist(you dont know if there is a god and you dont believe there is) or gnostic theist (you know there is a god and you believe it) and a gnostic atheist(you not only dont believe there is a god, you KNOW there isnt)

    you could plot that on a graph with belief on one axis and knowledge on another to get your position therein.

  • The idea of a god...is for me a way in which early humans tried to make the powers look more friendly, and make it possible to avoid. Right now we know what causes earthquakes, and tornadoes, and hurricanes, so the idea of a bearded white man up in the sky, has as much relevance, as the idea of Santa Claus.

  • one man's foolishness is another man's bravery

  • Islam is of peace, what is the guy and the end talking abou Muslims killing him if they don't like his jokes? That is just crazy talk

  • @slobbernuckle

    The problem is that there are those that believe they speak in the name of Islam that would send the guy death threats. In another example, in the papers only yesterday, an Imam was sent death threats because he preached that there's no conflict between the theory of evolution and the Qur'an. That's your supposedly Islam-is-peace Muslims doing that.

  • @slobbernuckle I guess you never heard of the dutch cartoonists? He's not saying for an off-handed joke, he means something offensive.

  • Bill Maher is a zionist devil

  • @TimThePlumber001

    then taking in your comment,how should i judge you?

    any idea what a zionist devil is?

    should he be a american,should he be european? maybe a indian,or a native american.

    do not leave me in the dark here,and explain to me why the liberal bill maher is a zionist devil.

  • @TimThePlumber001 Your the devil I guess. Probably a Nazi

  • Is there really any society that isn't conformist to a great extent? In fact how can you establish a society without conformists. Maybe we just have an unbalance of conformist to free thinker ratio.

  • @CappitranoBellephant

    I think your question should really be a statement. For the majority of history it has always been the free thinkers, or "independents" who have diverged the flow of ideas, and many times they were either rewarded or punished for them. Case in point; the founding fathers - revolutions are conceived by a few, yet followed by many.

  • Stewart > Maher

  • @jerryhello100 Maher's smarter than stewart, but stewart's funnier.

  • @GENERICCEREAL67 I don't think that is true. BIll maher is far too arrogant, so it may seem that he is making more points, but that is only because he lives in a selective and narrow world. Maher is okay, he seems like a funny political commentator, he always puts making a point ahead of a laugh; for Stewart, the laugh comes first.

  • @jerryhello100 Right, but don't you think we need more assertive liberals? People who unambiguously support their beliefs using logic, facts, and reason? I'll agree with you that Maher comes off as a bit arrogant, but I think he's one of the only people on the left with a spine... which is something we need a lot more of in this country.

  • @GENERICCEREAL67 I agree with that. I wouldn't call Stewart spineless though. There are cheap moves on both sides of politics, not as bad on the left as the right, but still. Most democrats are pussies, true. I don't know, I'm just peeved at Bill right now because I saw him do this thing on Buddism that was ill informed, and obviously stolen from Christopher Hitchens. The way to get people to change their minds isn't by insulting them.

  • Please push all the points!

  • i thought new zealand was full of sheep.:)

  • Oliver Stone Exposes The Animal Bill Maher & Israeli Lobby in USA

    watch?v=QRJfNj0NQCA

  • I agree with Maher America is full of sheep and conformists. It's very sad.

  • @RealTime88 I second that completely!

  • @Ernie101 That's why I'm happy people like Stewart and Maher exsist in this country. They are genius and very funny. I like my comedy to make me laugh and make me think. I only know a few comics who can do that.

  • @RealTime88 you just defined irony

  • @RealTime88 your opinion is obviously bias, given your name. Maher is a ego-maniac, he has his own sheep and conformists that are just as mis-guided and idiotic as any normal sheep.

  • @slashboy346 I'm not 100% liberal. I'm for the death penalty, I don't like the teacher's union, and I think 3 Strikes for violent felonies is fitting.

  • @RealTime88 I didnt say you were, I just said you were bias to bill maher, I dont think anybodys pure right wing, or pure left wing. Im libertarian, I believe in a fiscal budget, im for gay marriage, and im anti war. I disagree with both sides, and I use to like bill maher, but hes changed, hes become a bigot, and gives us false news, it doesnt matter if obama does something horrible, he wont cover it, now if a republican does something bad. BAM 1 hour of bashing him.

  • @slashboy346 That's not true at all, Maher regularly goes after Obama over various issues such as continuing the drug war and bailouts, expanding the war in Afghanistan, backing away from healthcare reform, dragging his feet on DADT and not ending renditions.

  • @steelersguy74 I know that, I was saying he was a bigot, and has gotten as bad as fox, on how bad he is. He might do a 1 minute segment and call obama a coward, but will spend the rest of the show talking about how dems are 10x better than reps, when the truth is, there both corrupt. The dems are trying to say we are in a recovery when inflation is starting to soar, and unemployment jumped 0.4 percent in the last month.

  • @slashboy346 It isn't his fault the republican party is a blight on the country. The notion that some one has to weigh BS the same as reason to be taken seriously in this country is the biggest reason our dialog is so screwed up.

  • @monokhem Oh and the dems have done so much better in office? Lets see clinton was the only good democrat, got any others? How about you use your reasoning, and find out that the dems are just as bad as the reps. :)

  • @slashboy346 Because that isn't what reason says. The democrats have done so much better in Office. Obama is blatently better than Bush. Clinton was Blatently better than Bush and Reagan, Carter was Blatently better than Ford and Nixon. Republicans poison the envirnment, villify minorities, underfund NASA, and start long expensive Wars. Democrats don't do these things. They Balance budgets, save the country from eminent economic collapse, and actualy fund space exploration.

  • @monokhem You obvious dont have any reason. Reagan was a great president, he had his secrets like any president, but he was left a economic crisis by carter (democrat) He had inflation in the double digits, a prime rate in the double digits, and a high rising unemployment which was already over 7% way more than bush left obama. Reagan deregulated government, cut taxes, and while he increased the deficit by 2 trillion (half as much as obama) he fixed the mess. Clinton was a good president.

  • @monokhem BUT anybody could get a surplus with the way he taxed the middle working class and the rich. He promised not to raise taxes on the middle class in his campaign. Yet raised overall taxes by over 80% only half of that increase was on the rich, the other half was the middle class. He created a housing bubble which if you done your research, you would know its one of the biggest reasons we are in this crisis :)

  • @monokhem Roosevelt gets claimed a recovery, but many fail to realize WW2 created millions upon millions of jobs :) he was a good president though and I truly do like him. But carter? Hes recognized as one of the worst presidents in history lol you really need to do your research. Im libertarian, I dont support anybody that has the same flawed ideals, that the dems and reps scream. We arent in a recovery btw, unemployment jumped 0.4 percent in a month, and inflations soaring :)

  • @slashboy346 I know a lot more about it than you appearantly. Carter isn't close to one of the worst presidents in history. He is clearly better than the criminal Nixon, or the pardoner Ford. People just don't get exited about fighting inflation.

    Your dismissal of Obama and FDR's accomplishments assumes the US could have never collapsed. If it wasn't for FDTR the US would have been in a state of anarchy by the time WWII started. Without Obama the US wouldn't have a manufacturing base anymore.

  • @monokhem Are you serious? Almost every president has been corrupt, most just never got caught. Carter lied to his fanbase, and turned down a good stable economy, into a nightmarish hellhole. (Same as bush, yet you hate him and like carter? Stupidly brainwashed much?) FDR was a good president, im just saying the war helped him out, so what your assuming is stupidly wrong, and something your idiotic mind made up. Obama has done nothing but spend money stupidly.

  • @slashboy346 That's pretty much what i expected from some one that has no idea what they are talking about. Carter left behind a much stronger economy than he inherited because he faught inflation. Obama saved the manufacturing base with the automotive industry rescue, which not only saved a massive chunk of the economy, but preserved our manufacturing base.

    Seriously all you are is a bunch of group think and ego. I don't think you ever studied any of this on your own.

  • @monokhem Haha lets see, he expanded government, and made many departments that failed. He made the department of energy, in the late 70's we had a energy crisis xD Inflation was low under Carter? Are you really that uninformed or are you just lying? I have respect for clinton, fdr, and jfk all were good presidents but seriously carter? You sir are a wing nut, and a idiot. You need to research what you say, or itll just make you look like even more of a idiot.

  • @monokhem Onto Obama since you are such a die hard uninformed liberal. Obama's stimulus plan did delay the crisis temporarily, but now stocks are predicted to start going down again, while unemployment, and inflation continue to rise. A good president would have adressed the problem directly, not throw money at it, and hope it disapears. I will give credit to Obama on one thing. He is a very good speaker, he is very charismatic, but other than that. NOTHING!

  • @monokhem I admit that carter tried to battle inflation, but to say it was low during his years in office would be a lie, it was in the double digits. He himself didnt even fix the problem. Paul Vockler did, Carter just appointed him the chairman of the federal reserve. You would be suprised about how much I know, to only be 16 :)

  • @slashboy346 That you know how to do hasty google searches that give you a fraction of the story? No that doesn't suprise me at all. That wasn't the half of it.

    Carter was the most fiscaly responsable president in the last 50 years. Interest rates were one part of his plan. He also cut spending and enacted credit controls.

    I never said it was low in his years in office. NAZI's were all over Europe at the end of FDR's presidency, that doesn't mean he wasn't our best NAZI fighter.

  • @monokhem You sir are a uninformed idiot. If you can not even make a halfway decent response to my statement, then you might as well not debate. Hmm having to stoop so low as to send a lame insult like that at me? Give it a few years, and read a few books..you might get smart..but I doubt it..

  • @slashboy346 You are the one throwing around lame insults. If this is your way of backing out, I assure you, just ceasing to respond couldn't have made you look any worse.

  • @monokhem Avoiding what? Your fabricated lies? Anybody who lived in the 70's can remember Carters nickname of peanut. He was a pushover. The economy was horrible under him, he had a energy crisis, and to oil crisis's happen under him. Trust me I will keep responding, but you should know that it would be better for you not to respond, then carry out this idiotic spewing of lies. :)

  • @slashboy346 Your idiotic spewing of lies doesn't bother me that much. Now you are telling me what everybody in the 70's knew, even though you are not one of them and I am. This new area of arguement, or whatever it is, only goes to prove my point that you are just a parrot, repeating what you heard somewhere else and hoping it makes you look smart.

    The debate was over when i cleaned your clock a few posts ago and you came back with childish insults. Now what exactly are you doing?

  • @monokhem Haha I love how you call me a parrot, but instead of admitting both partys are corrupt, like anybody with a mind would know, you mindlessly babble false facts & distortions, that your party has fed you, if that isnt a parrot I dont know what is. I dont remember you cleaning my clock, anything I said, I backed up with information, while you just said Carter wasnt bad. That was it. XD

  • @slashboy346 Isn't that you needed to type "Haha" during your wholy inaccurate reply really the most revealing thing you've said? I honestly think you believe you "backed up with information". Thses are sad things. I don't believe i will be bothering with you any more.

  • @monokhem Now now, if you cant handle the truth that is alright, but adding yet another blatant lie to your long list of lie's is just sad :) I said carter left Reagan with double digit inflation, double digit prime rate, and sharply rising inflation that was at over 7.4 when Reagan took office. Yet the left will defend Obama saying bush left him with a high unemployment. Lets see inflation was under control, and the prime rate wasnt bad at all. Obama could have stuck to what he promised..

  • @slashboy346

    Carter inherited an ecoomy in shambles himself. He also had to maneuver the economy through the debilitating Energy Crisis which he couldn't control. In fact, many of his actions saved the economy (ie Appt of Volker, who brought down inflation), but these things occured only after Reagan took office. Reagan's are very similar to Obama's, as he spent trillions and massively increased the size of Gov., contrary to popular belief. You should read a history textbook before posting.

  • @OC8O Are you serious? Anybody can tell you, that the size of government growth, was very very small under Reagan. Thats your first lie, the second is that the stimulus, stopped a depression..No it only put it off for a tiny bit. If your going to debate me, you will tell the truth, I dont debate liars (: I love how you care about the money of the wars, and not the lives at stake, your no better than the neo-conservatives most people hate. War is War, and blood is shed in war, usually innocent.

  • @slashboy346 Uh well it depends how "Government growth" is defined. I would argue that the Reagan administration presided over a considerable decrease in government regulation while simultaneously increasing spending to the private sector. So, monetarily it grew, and allowed the other power system of Corporations to grow, but its responsibilities decreased.

  • @Keinlicht Uhh if you look up how government growth is actually "Defined" You would see that the governments did not have alot of growth at all. Im glad to see your civil about things, but the bottomline was, the other idiot said, He increased the size of government. When he deregulated the government making it much smaller, he did spend trillions of dollars, but only half as much as president obama. He fixed the economy with what he borrowed though.

  • @slashboy346 ... Reagan fixed the economy? How did he do that? By cutting revenue in half and increasing spending? You consider that to be "fixing the economy?" We are in our current mess primarily because of the actions of President Reagan.

  • @emantabrizi Wooww your like the 6th person, ive got to shut up xD Use facts please, not a distortion, or anything of the such. I know its easy for uninformed people such as yourself but still. Reagan, had to increase spending, while shrinking the size of government, to fix the mess jimmy carter left him with. You know how bush left Obama with 7.6 unemployment, and you dems still cry? Carter left reagan with over 7% unemployment, a prime rate in the double digits, and double digit inflation.

  • @slashboy346 ... My comment was hardly a distortion. Clear the shit out of your eyes, and maybe you'll see that. Here are the facts: when Reagan took office, the top tax bracket was 70%. When he left office, it was 28%. When Reagan took office, our national debt totaled $980 billion. When he left office, it was $2.8 TRILLION. That's not fixing the economy. That's setting it on a path to destruction. Those are the facts. Go ahead, dispute them. I dare you.

  • @emantabrizi Hmmm have you heard of spending money to stimulate the economy? 1.9 trillion is half of what Obama borrowed, and the national debt, has no effect on the economy until it gets out of control like now, so dont try saying the economy was in shambles because it wasnt. Taxing the rich, wouldnt even get us near a surplus either. Let me ask you this, if giving the rich a tax break dont make them invest hear, and is sending them over sea's. What will raising the tax's do? Send more