Mos Def is the truth. There is no doubt Def is the best lyrics today. As far as the rest of the artist mentioned I can't say who is better to anyone else because music is subjective. If you are a dumb thug you want to listen to dumb thugs. If you a hoe lil Kim, Trena, and that Barbie chick (can't remember name) appeals to you. Yea I am a old head and educated so yea Mos Def, Common, and Talib appeals to me. I am also into fashion and love me some me so yea I like Kanye. Music is subjective.
and im not sure why u think its all old heads that think this way..any1 with a brain can tell a lyricist from an mc that says shit that dont make sense or is so simple that u dont really care what he says...u act as if we only like mcs from the past or something , jay electronica is a fairly new mc and hes from orleans just like wayne and his rhyme scheme and metaphors puts lil waynes to shame, for example "if rap was like blacks in the 60's, id be a white cop in riot gear ready to hoes down"
I love Mos Def. Big up to Mos for not dumbin his flows down to the level of other rappers, Let em elevate their minds up to your level if they can't understand what you're talkin about.
"Fuck the American gangstas, American idols. We African icons Americas rivals."
that is fucking nasty. They freestyling too! you will never see any corporate pawn like Weezy or Jay do anything this raw this real. Leaving themselves vulnerable like they just did, she messed up a couple of times but that happens WHEN YOU FREESTYLE
First off GET OF WAYNE'S NUTS for five minutes. I think wayne can freestyle too but I like Mos Def more. why? subject matter and his vocabulary is clean wayne is good with that "battle scene". But his lyrical schemes arn't as complex You have reason to like wayne alot. But to be honest, im tired of him and his style. Mos Def can hold his own, and i wouldn't be suprised if he could take wayne down. Am i saying he will, IDK, but who is the pussy who won't do it? WAYNE...
WTF are you talking about ? Wayne doesn't even battle.
Not only that but what makes you think these guys have time for that ?
Hot only that but you said Jay-z can't rap ?
Looks like Someone needs to listen to reasonable doubt. Not only that but Jay doesn't write......so I'm sure if he were to freestyle with Mos Def and her; he could pull out some nice lyrics.
its called conforming to the buisness homie, its called SELLING OUT. Its when great artists like Jay and Eminem change thier style to just sell more records. I consider Jay a Corporate Pawn now, but he wasn't always. Just like Em
i understand what mos def be speakin about and i still dont see why this nigga think he can fuck with wayne man mos def is good and he does have good subject matter when he raps but he done lost his marbles thinkin he fucking with wayne in a freestyle battle ive heard wayne freestle some shit that if u was battling a nigga the battle would have stop rite there and wayne would have won and im not a wayne fan ethier ima "me" fan cuz i rap 2 and i know talent when i see it and ya boy weezy got it
avenue...if u think lil wayne got that much talent , u most be a trash ass mc so maybe u should stop mcing now....lil wayne has the worse metaphors i ever heard," im so high i can eat a star" are u fucking kidding me? please dont let me start putting waynes lyrics on here cause ull see hes trash...u most have a low level of intellect if u feel his lyrics have any relevance or structure to them..please prove to me that lil wayne has lyrically ability, never had a wayne fan that could do that!!!
lol hah i actully like that line i mean think how high a man would have to be nd how big his mouth would be to eat a star thats whats wrong with you old heads yall wanna be so sad and downfull in your ryhmes which is cool but noboday said thats what hip hop truley is man lil wayne is a great musican period his whole life is recording never has another rapper done that he already as today as drop in life 4679 songs mos def would have ran out of rhymes by then LOve me or hate me go listen to that
wow..u really are a complete idiot..u actually think that line is dope so i can see why u think lil wayne is good...maybe if dr suess droped a cd, u would pick that one up too cause even suess got better rhyming patterns than lil wayne...and i can careless how many songs lil wayne has made...not one of those songs can touch any of mosdefs songs lyrically...the reason mosdef doesnt have that many songs is because he actually puts time into his work, it takes time to make good music!!!
are u kidding me mos def been rhyming since wayne was sucking his mamas teet. if mos def wanted he could retire and 10 years later after weezy released another 5 albulms mos def still be better because blackstar albulm shits on weezy entire career. weezy created his own language that can be appreciated by 5yo if u put him agaonst def and call yourself a emcee i REALY NEED TO HEAR YOU SHIT LOOOOL
haha cant believe he got lil wayne in a top 10 of best ever...guess u never heard of big l, big pun, andre 3000, canibus, busta, kool g rap, big daddy kane, gza, slick rick, aesop , elzhi, jay electronica, bahamadia , royce da 5'9,mf doom, i can go on and on...lets just say lil wayne shouldnt be mentioned with mcs of there caliber!!!
did that random female just murk one of the greatest underground emcees of all time? lol I cant remember the last time I heard a freestyle with that my substance she's a monster
mos def is challening them to a freestyle battle.. u guys keep commenting saying wayne n jay r lyrically w/e can sell w/e and they are better than mos def over the mic but when it comes to a freestyle they can fuck with mos
ull prolly never see jay-z in a cypher, he has reached a point in his life and career where, this may sound bad, but he doesnt have time for that kinda stuff, he runs business', he makes major moves, mos def, personally i dont think hes smarter than jay-z, on albums and in person is two different things, on albums theres a prime purpose, evry song has a purpose, but in person, frestyle spittin, its just wreckless, i cant freestyle, but the poetry and songs i write is deep... same concept
WHO EVa SAYS JAYZ SKILLS ARENT AS GOOD AS MOS DEFS IS DUMB AS FUCK... so jay-s cant spit nrly as gud as mos def? mos seems upset in this video ... im mad cuz its a bunch of dudes who arent as talkin bout HOOD!MOS N JAY a battle for the centuries... bt dnt sit her n say tht jay-z isnt good, dont come with bias opinions, sayin jay isnt good, were is nas inthe convo... were dre 3000... AND MOS WONT WIN CUZ HE DOESNT HAVE THE FAN SUPPORT, mos def will not jus blw thm out the water
if this battle ever happened and it was based on lyrical skillz and not fan support...ofcourse mosdef would beat jayz...i aint saying jayz cant flow but lyricaly hes not on the level of the bkmc...thats like saying jayz is lyricaly on the level of nas...sorry but its not happening...not to mention mosdef is all about cyphers, whens the last time u seen jayz in a cypher or lil wayne lol but id like to see this happen, although lil wayne shouldnt even show up, hes not on there radar..
i didnt say jayz aint got skillz...but lets face it, hes not nas...look at jayz albums compared to nas....and lets not forget ETHER!!!! NUFF SAID...and i agree, common is dope, so is a lot of other mcs, rakim, elzhi, canibus, chino xl...i actually feel mos mentions jayz and lil wayne because of the mainstream..people think there the best in the game...but believe me i can name 5 mcs of the top thats lyricaly better than jay and wayne...shit , id put mf doom against jayz any day of the week!
haha, why do people always think nas has all relevent songs? cause he doesnt...hes just a better mc that jayz...but let me stop cause thats just my opinion...and its funny u just said mf doom makes nice music but not emceeing lol mosdef even said cosigned on doom saying hes a beast...seriously , listen to his lyrics...ill go mf dooms lyrics against ur jayz lyrics any day
people support certain artist because of their marketablilty, its not all the about the rhymes, its as deep as the what they talk about, delivery, the beat that their on, the tone and sound of their voice, lyrics is one thing, but a song is way deeper in my opinion, like chammlilionaire and bgs voices are so annoying to me i cant listen to them lol
Common is so truth... but he isnt a great freestyler freestlyer (if i can say tht lol) he has the things that he sits down and writea aboutm tht why there so much depth cause it well though out
I honestly don't think mos def could beat jay-z, but that's my opinion and I have my reasons.
I do think mos def would rip the dreads out of lil wayne.
FUCK plies, he's not real, just like officer ricky. shit he can barely read...
oh and last but not least
anyone else think the majority of artists def jam is pushing out this year are really really really bad? ex. the dream, jadakiss, slip-n-slide in general... (that's bad meaning ad not bad meaning good... muthafuka)
IM from brooklyn aite 20 yrs plus now in miami.they listen 2 lil wayne. so ive listen 2 mos , jay and weezy.1st 4 ya tht dnt knw shit bout rap.jayz startd w/ big L. in t 90"s.Jay was on Big L dik jockin his style.listne 2 how wack jayz is.he got big swagga jackin other niggas stlyes. lil wayne is aite.he kinda fresh he knw how 2 sell albums but mos,talib n common, thy the sickest lyricist out there.whn it comes dwn 2 3-d lines.thy spit the sickest shit..you just gotta knw the game.Bk all day1
Amen, Sincere, Amen... I look at it like this in terms of lyrical skills: Mos' is the house master, Jay might be skilled enough to wash his dishes, and Lil Wayne aint even skilled enough to take out his garbage...
A agree, the alch gave Mos too much courage, but the truth is...Mos is a dope lyracist. Now could he slay Jay-Z or Lil Wayne? Well, if they don't do the pay-per-view, I guess we'll never know. I mean, aint no use of speculating. True hip-hop headz know you prove yourselve in the cypher--If you ain proved yourself in the cypher, you aint proved yourself! Go tell them commercial rap lames to prove themeselves and stop running from competition like Bruce LeRoy.
I like yo style Sonofman79. Commercial rap is getting old for me.
I would like to say that Mos would take it home but just because i would like to see the underdog take it all. and he isn't the underdog because of his skill but because those other rappers(jay and wayne) have better marketing schemes
Wayne is not a hot mc...he appeals to a bunch of dum dums who don't know REAL hip hop. E 40? Are you serious...hes not even in the top 1000! Its only 5 MC's who are deep enough to bring it to MOS..KRS,Kweli,Lupe,Jay,Nas....no one else can even comprehend the 3D lyrics that MOS has...one line can have 3 different meanings...all of which are relevant...We are talking MC's yall...not RAPPERs...there is a major difference!
ok ok wayne is not a battle rapper?? but he will still pain mos def and jay-z YOU CANT NOT COMPARE THIS NIGGA TO HIM!!! Period but i dont know about kanye and 3000. but i would put up a stack on lil wayne and Jay
how old do u think mos is???? or even jay? no one is disrespecting no one here besides u... what i've done in life is educate my brothers and sisters including mos and his family... i've also make sure ur able to vent ur opinions here and around this planet so freely... i guess it hurts u to see me laughing and hanging out wit my friends and family members instead of trying to kill each other... sorry for trying to give u a side of black people that is very rarely shown... - take care
jay is more on the mc hammer side of hip hop and mos would be public enemy. i would call jay z the jonas brothers of hip hop. i mean jay is nice but lyrically NO nothing near mos.
nigga what Jay are you listening to... Im talkin about Jay-Z... mos wouldnt even give jay a head ache bruh...I aint saying he sucks...but the alcohol got that nigga a lil twisted...he off is rocker...and you are too.
dude i have been listening to jay since you were still in jr. high.... lol jay z is okay. he's an average rapper who appeals to a certain market. if you like him thats ok to be a fan but im a hip hop head that has heard real emcees before and jay z is no emcee. he's a commercial rapper appealing to kids who like commercial rap. jay z = britney spears of hip hop & mos def = public enemy w/ lyrics of hip hop.
Man GTFO with that BS. I hate to troll people but this has gone on long enough. JAY-Z IS A SKILLED RAPPER. You simply can't compare him to britney spears. No matter how much you hate him. He is more skilled than a NUMBER of mainstream rappers. I'm a "Hip Hop Head" too. And skill is not subjective. Dude is fire on the mic. AS for battling ? Jay-Z doesn't have time for that, he's out making lots of money. And I'm sure Mos is trying to do the same.
yo i never said jay wasn't nice but as far as him being better then mos.... the problem with most of you kids is that you grow up listening to a certain style and think thats it. thats all there is to it. i grew up listening to all type of hip hop. listened to emcees and rappers a like. if i wanna hear some swagger talk i'll listen to jay if i wanna hear some honest to goodness lyrics then i'll go underground.
and the point i was trying to make comparing him to britney was people can become more of a fan of a style then the persons talent. if you don't like that comparison then i'll go this route. jay is more like the hulk hogan. not the most skilled but the most popular. how about that?
its a shame that people forget how gifted mos def is lyrically because he makes music and not just rap. back in 98 when Jay just started to shine, mos was already considered one of the best in the game lyrically. A battle between him and Jay would be legendary and could go either way.
At the end Mos def is copying jay-z verse from Bluprint 2. I had more respect for Mos he sounds savage and lost his humility. He is good at what he does but I thought he was more civilized. what a shame
The broad flowed harder than him on that joint, lol. He's my man and can flow, but most the stuff he was saying on there is over peoples head. If you say a lot of deep stuff, but nobody understands it, are you really effective? He doesn't rhyme like that all the time though. I rather have somebody that is a lyricist but rhymes so people can understand what theyre talking about and every day stuff ala Beanie Sigel, Sean Price, and Jay Z. Not about the moon, stars and Quasars!!! Lol
listen up people that clown on the video that "dont understand" its simple...MOS DEF kills them bitches, he got his own swag, not that gay shit!! mos will kill ALL them dudes & if you don't understand what mos def or ole' girl was saying....please...GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!! this is way the american education system is at its lowest ever!
weezy FAG baby, vegan3000, & jay z will get lynched by mos def....PERIOD!!!!
Mos is one of my favorites, inspired me to start writting raps, please come to my page and watch my rap "sad story" its about a depressed man who commits suicide and I made the beat too, if youre interested stop by and drop a comment of what you think.
this shit is fuken retard, why do black people always make words up to rhyme, just because they can't think of one they just make up one. My fuken little sister can do that shit and she's only 4
Is preposterous, stay alive, you play or die, no options
No batman and robin, cant tell between
The cops and the robbers, they both partners, they all heartless
With no conscience, back streets stay darkened
Where unbeliever hearts stay hardened"
This phrase (By Mos Def, same guy in this vid) utilizes extremely complex poetic devices for rhyming, FAR more complex than any 4 year old could conjure up... I would know, I'm a English Lit major at UC Berk
you know there are legit freestylers in this world, mos is one. Ive seen him talk about shit around him when he was spitting. it was just as good. Why you hating? yeah bet you love Tpain and Huricane Chris, and Mike Jones, Solja boy, Chingy, ICP, Kevin Federline, Vanilla Ice, and BOW WOW. grow a sack
not everything is written. Just cuz you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done
lol who the hell is icp lol man i am a rapper and i would destory any nigga on the mic son im not hatin i never hate but u must done lost yo mind if u think mos is fuccin with wayne or jay im sorry but mos a crazzy nigga for sayin that and hell yeah i love t pain cuz when i heard mos def say that dum shit i was like "freeze' "i cant believe it" mos def need to be "chopped and screwed"
"I could put u in a log cabin Somewhere in Aspen, Girl ain't nothin teddy pain, Ain't trickin if you got it what u askin... for Put you in a mansion, somewhere in Wiscansin." ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?? you call that rap? damn i can only imagine the shit you try to spit. Thats 5th grade rhyme scheme son. HIP HOP IS DEAD all the real rappers like Mos are just suppressed. But you don't see that do you? You just love all that talentless shit "STOP TAKING THE BLUE PILL SON"
lol to bad t-pain is a r&b singer and not a rapper mane hip hop is not dead nas lame ass just said that to make some bucks man look i hate haters man cuz im not one i admit hip hop subject matter has changed and evolved man hip hop will always changing it went from east to west and not the south runnin it so stop hatin bitch any ways back to whats to the main subject mos def is not better then lil wayne or jay z his work ethic his swagger and his delivery is no where is good as wayne
avenuadabeast , why even comment on this video if all u can talk about is work ethic and swagger lol ur dumb..u act as if lyrical ability doesnt matter lol delivary dont mean shit if ur not saying anything and ur metaphors dont make sense!!!! lil wayne wouldnt show up to this event if it ever really happened cause then people would see him for who he trully is...TRASH!!! and this isnt about the south cause jay electronica got lyrical ability and hes from the same spot as wayne!!!
lol man work ethic swagger have everything to do with rapping man so cant go rapping on a track sounding all wack u gotta have energy AND WAYNE HAS THE MOST MASSIVE WORLD PLAY EVER if u think wayne suck go listen to his song love me or hate me go listen to trouble and tell me agin that mos def is better then wayne any wyas the best rappers in rap now are 1 lil wayne 2 kayne 3 t.i 4 the game 5 ludacris 6 common 7 cassidy 8 plies 9 rick ross 10 lupe
hahahahaha,,,lil wayne and word play, that was a good laugh lol go try listening to elzhi and ull hear what word play sounds like...and wow, plies lol lol seriously, u are too funny...i can see its pointless to argue with u about this cause if i named all the mcs better than the ones u just said, u wouldnt even know who they are cause there not on mtv
who is mos def anywaus i thought he was a neyo soul singer/ movie starr i never heard him rap intill now he got massive word play skills but he dont got the energy or sawwger to even battle with wayne maybe jay z but not wayne i hope wayne takes his challange cuz if he and he wins then no one will ever doubt that hes the best rappper ever
no im a 90s baby tupac and biggie lived in that era bitch to great legands fucc you old head yall dont even know yall own fuccing history the frist hip hip song ever was a dance track so fuck off i admit my era is more about dancing hoes and drugs and money but shit we rapping what we live that all some of them niggas know mos def got nice word play he anit on some real shit u wanna hear some real shit play some tupac play some plies play some kayne man
you confused fuck. Dont even come at me sideways with Pac, like i don't know who he is and what he stood for. from your previous message i thought you were 16. Thats why i said your generation, so slow your role. next time show some respect to Def cuz hes been around for a while and he doesnt sell because he is a conscience artist, all people want now is that gay ass "supper man that hoe" im a 90's baby too, and ive seen rap get worse after pac and big died
HAHAHAHA!!!! You have to be fucking JOKING! Mos def is a genius, activist, intellectual. Mos Def is an ARTIST. Wayne is happy rapping about getting his dick sucked and sexual escapades. Fuck today's SODA POP HIP HOP. THINK!!!
yo that girl wit mos can spit. her name soul child she said? she gotta find a new name or somethin cause i tried searchin her and stuff and all i get is musiq. i'd like to hear more of her shit tho
Whats funny is that the guy doubting Mos Def is basically saying Mos Def should dumb down if he intends to beat Lil' Wayne or these other rappers in a battle; that's what I find funny.
That woman I think her name is Soul Child can rap her ass off I wonder if she has any songs I can check out.
BrainFreeze that's kids now day they are negative about everything and everyone and hate their lives so much that they have to just bash everything even if it is of complete genius. Respect doesn't exist in their world...
wayne sucks ass jay is good but i dont think he could beat mos in a battle mos would kill them in a battle mos def rhymes be on another level his shit actually be intelligent he need to get back with talib and get us a new black star album mos the true king of NY for real
That female is murder! I nearly came.
matix0587 3 weeks ago
Fucking duds with the cam
TEAMxEPICxSPACE 1 month ago
Little Wayne lovers lot biggie and tupac on!ly to claim rap knowledge Btw little whine listeners have the iq of a bowling ball.
adil115 2 months ago
Mos Def is the truth. There is no doubt Def is the best lyrics today. As far as the rest of the artist mentioned I can't say who is better to anyone else because music is subjective. If you are a dumb thug you want to listen to dumb thugs. If you a hoe lil Kim, Trena, and that Barbie chick (can't remember name) appeals to you. Yea I am a old head and educated so yea Mos Def, Common, and Talib appeals to me. I am also into fashion and love me some me so yea I like Kanye. Music is subjective.
ojhart4 3 months ago
Who is the Female!? Sickness
iNspir3DMuzik 5 months ago
Mos and Lupe need to battle, cause Fiasco iced Jay on "Pressure" and his freestyle game is narly. If those to ever battled... (whistles)
Soldier13 2 years ago
i hite idiots bringing lupe in his medicore at most he cant hold his own with many emcees thats why he remains with pop artist .
Lucifer986 2 years ago
lmfao this is a joke right ? Lupe fiascos lyrical skill is INSANE. The guy can use ALOT of imagery.
He's actually above a lot of Mainstream rappers.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
DAMNNNN HOME GIRL SMASHED IT
Soldier13 2 years ago 12
for real who is she .
Lucifer986 2 years ago
and im not sure why u think its all old heads that think this way..any1 with a brain can tell a lyricist from an mc that says shit that dont make sense or is so simple that u dont really care what he says...u act as if we only like mcs from the past or something , jay electronica is a fairly new mc and hes from orleans just like wayne and his rhyme scheme and metaphors puts lil waynes to shame, for example "if rap was like blacks in the 60's, id be a white cop in riot gear ready to hoes down"
tameone 2 years ago 2
I love Mos Def. Big up to Mos for not dumbin his flows down to the level of other rappers, Let em elevate their minds up to your level if they can't understand what you're talkin about.
nicolegrumpybear 2 years ago
Mos Def remind me straight up of "IT" from I Love New York....
hiyukenmusic 2 years ago
"Fuck the American gangstas, American idols. We African icons Americas rivals."
that is fucking nasty. They freestyling too! you will never see any corporate pawn like Weezy or Jay do anything this raw this real. Leaving themselves vulnerable like they just did, she messed up a couple of times but that happens WHEN YOU FREESTYLE
gooseCha 2 years ago
ive seen lil wayne freestyle plenty of times and kill it
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
gooseCha 2 years ago
WTF are you talking about ? Wayne doesn't even battle.
Not only that but what makes you think these guys have time for that ?
Hot only that but you said Jay-z can't rap ?
Looks like Someone needs to listen to reasonable doubt. Not only that but Jay doesn't write......so I'm sure if he were to freestyle with Mos Def and her; he could pull out some nice lyrics.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
When did i say Jay-z can't rap?
gooseCha 2 years ago
IDK. but you did say Jay can't freestyle.....
You even went as far as calling him a "Corporate Pawn".
How is that possible ?
He's his own boss lmao.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
its called conforming to the buisness homie, its called SELLING OUT. Its when great artists like Jay and Eminem change thier style to just sell more records. I consider Jay a Corporate Pawn now, but he wasn't always. Just like Em
gooseCha 2 years ago
If you say so. I just don't see it like that.
Though Jay did dumb down.
Em was pretty nice but right now I don't know what's going on with him and that accent thing.
It's getting harder to understand what he is saying.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
The problem is...the cameraman is basically saying, "We're too stupid to get why you're hot. We don't read; we don't write; we're so HOOOD NIGGA!!"
Yvning 2 years ago
i understand what mos def be speakin about and i still dont see why this nigga think he can fuck with wayne man mos def is good and he does have good subject matter when he raps but he done lost his marbles thinkin he fucking with wayne in a freestyle battle ive heard wayne freestle some shit that if u was battling a nigga the battle would have stop rite there and wayne would have won and im not a wayne fan ethier ima "me" fan cuz i rap 2 and i know talent when i see it and ya boy weezy got it
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
avenue...if u think lil wayne got that much talent , u most be a trash ass mc so maybe u should stop mcing now....lil wayne has the worse metaphors i ever heard," im so high i can eat a star" are u fucking kidding me? please dont let me start putting waynes lyrics on here cause ull see hes trash...u most have a low level of intellect if u feel his lyrics have any relevance or structure to them..please prove to me that lil wayne has lyrically ability, never had a wayne fan that could do that!!!
tameone 2 years ago
lol hah i actully like that line i mean think how high a man would have to be nd how big his mouth would be to eat a star thats whats wrong with you old heads yall wanna be so sad and downfull in your ryhmes which is cool but noboday said thats what hip hop truley is man lil wayne is a great musican period his whole life is recording never has another rapper done that he already as today as drop in life 4679 songs mos def would have ran out of rhymes by then LOve me or hate me go listen to that
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
wow..u really are a complete idiot..u actually think that line is dope so i can see why u think lil wayne is good...maybe if dr suess droped a cd, u would pick that one up too cause even suess got better rhyming patterns than lil wayne...and i can careless how many songs lil wayne has made...not one of those songs can touch any of mosdefs songs lyrically...the reason mosdef doesnt have that many songs is because he actually puts time into his work, it takes time to make good music!!!
tameone 2 years ago 2
are u kidding me mos def been rhyming since wayne was sucking his mamas teet. if mos def wanted he could retire and 10 years later after weezy released another 5 albulms mos def still be better because blackstar albulm shits on weezy entire career. weezy created his own language that can be appreciated by 5yo if u put him agaonst def and call yourself a emcee i REALY NEED TO HEAR YOU SHIT LOOOOL
Lucifer986 2 years ago
YoungDreezee 2 years ago
Immortal tech needs to be in there
gooseCha 2 years ago
haha cant believe he got lil wayne in a top 10 of best ever...guess u never heard of big l, big pun, andre 3000, canibus, busta, kool g rap, big daddy kane, gza, slick rick, aesop , elzhi, jay electronica, bahamadia , royce da 5'9,mf doom, i can go on and on...lets just say lil wayne shouldnt be mentioned with mcs of there caliber!!!
tameone 2 years ago 3
Nas needs to be up there to man
jbanco 2 years ago
word the fuck up.
Mos Def is the rawest
amsbeats 2 years ago
whybie, that was nice. looked like that was a lot of fun.
people are talking about the friend with the camera like they have never ragged on their friends. the only difference is it on tape.
Mos Def and "Talib when he not here for him" lady is NICE!!!!!
csm00th007 2 years ago
did that random female just murk one of the greatest underground emcees of all time? lol I cant remember the last time I heard a freestyle with that my substance she's a monster
plexmc 2 years ago
mos def is challening them to a freestyle battle.. u guys keep commenting saying wayne n jay r lyrically w/e can sell w/e and they are better than mos def over the mic but when it comes to a freestyle they can fuck with mos
DrDetoxx 2 years ago
who is she?
skalene 2 years ago 2
i wanna know too.
shes on par with mos there
lm1991 2 years ago
ull prolly never see jay-z in a cypher, he has reached a point in his life and career where, this may sound bad, but he doesnt have time for that kinda stuff, he runs business', he makes major moves, mos def, personally i dont think hes smarter than jay-z, on albums and in person is two different things, on albums theres a prime purpose, evry song has a purpose, but in person, frestyle spittin, its just wreckless, i cant freestyle, but the poetry and songs i write is deep... same concept
Nelz0789 2 years ago
"we european slash.....psych" haha
kosg90 2 years ago
DAMN! that female WOW! she should battle wayne..... she's mad FRESH AND FLY!
kroner122 2 years ago
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME THE LYRICS TO THE GIRL FREESTYLE PLEASEEEEEE?
hit me up with it
she goes harddd
mo160191 2 years ago
mos will kill jujst about evey rapper in da game real shit
AAVON626 2 years ago
WHO EVa SAYS JAYZ SKILLS ARENT AS GOOD AS MOS DEFS IS DUMB AS FUCK... so jay-s cant spit nrly as gud as mos def? mos seems upset in this video ... im mad cuz its a bunch of dudes who arent as talkin bout HOOD!MOS N JAY a battle for the centuries... bt dnt sit her n say tht jay-z isnt good, dont come with bias opinions, sayin jay isnt good, were is nas inthe convo... were dre 3000... AND MOS WONT WIN CUZ HE DOESNT HAVE THE FAN SUPPORT, mos def will not jus blw thm out the water
Nelz0789 2 years ago
if this battle ever happened and it was based on lyrical skillz and not fan support...ofcourse mosdef would beat jayz...i aint saying jayz cant flow but lyricaly hes not on the level of the bkmc...thats like saying jayz is lyricaly on the level of nas...sorry but its not happening...not to mention mosdef is all about cyphers, whens the last time u seen jayz in a cypher or lil wayne lol but id like to see this happen, although lil wayne shouldnt even show up, hes not on there radar..
tameone 2 years ago
LMAO Jay-z is HIGHLY skilled.
Reasonable Doubt.
Jay-z is just as skilled as Nas but he doesn't talk about the same things.
I see all these people screaming, "Nas!".
How come no one is bringing up Common ?
That guy KILLED some tracks on Resurrection!
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
i didnt say jayz aint got skillz...but lets face it, hes not nas...look at jayz albums compared to nas....and lets not forget ETHER!!!! NUFF SAID...and i agree, common is dope, so is a lot of other mcs, rakim, elzhi, canibus, chino xl...i actually feel mos mentions jayz and lil wayne because of the mainstream..people think there the best in the game...but believe me i can name 5 mcs of the top thats lyricaly better than jay and wayne...shit , id put mf doom against jayz any day of the week!
tameone 2 years ago
LMAO.
There are plenty of GOOD rappers I've said that already.
But Nas in comparison to Jay-z .
They both have an equal amount of great products.
Skill Wise ?
About the same, Nas just raps about different stuff. I'd give the edge to Nas becaus he raps about stuff that is more relevant to me.
Also Jay-Z slaughters Wayne in lyrical skill lets get real.
They aren't even comparable when it comes to rhyming.
MF Doom......that must a be a joke...Nice music but emceeing ? No.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
haha, why do people always think nas has all relevent songs? cause he doesnt...hes just a better mc that jayz...but let me stop cause thats just my opinion...and its funny u just said mf doom makes nice music but not emceeing lol mosdef even said cosigned on doom saying hes a beast...seriously , listen to his lyrics...ill go mf dooms lyrics against ur jayz lyrics any day
tameone 2 years ago
nas has some very dumb song... "owe me back like u owe yo rent?" with the leather suit on lmao, priceless lol
Nelz0789 2 years ago
Doom... he sounds kind crazy/ scary lol
Nelz0789 2 years ago
people support certain artist because of their marketablilty, its not all the about the rhymes, its as deep as the what they talk about, delivery, the beat that their on, the tone and sound of their voice, lyrics is one thing, but a song is way deeper in my opinion, like chammlilionaire and bgs voices are so annoying to me i cant listen to them lol
Nelz0789 2 years ago
Common is so truth... but he isnt a great freestyler freestlyer (if i can say tht lol) he has the things that he sits down and writea aboutm tht why there so much depth cause it well though out
Nelz0789 2 years ago
Yeah he can actually freestyle pretty good. :) listen to the mixtape where he and kanye battle.
It's pretty funny but Kanye and Common bust out some nice rhymes once they get started.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
that fact you lik kanye tells me enuogh about you kanye talentless shit
Lucifer986 2 years ago
What the f*ck are you talking about ?
You don't know ANYTHING about me.
Not only that but the artists you find enjoyable doesn't say ANYTHING about you.
I guess you forgot that I mentioned Mos Def and Common as some of my favorite rappers. GTFO.
Also learn how to form a sentence before you go ahead and "Diss" me.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
MAN you dont know what your talking about.... really!
kroner122 2 years ago
I honestly don't think mos def could beat jay-z, but that's my opinion and I have my reasons.
I do think mos def would rip the dreads out of lil wayne.
FUCK plies, he's not real, just like officer ricky. shit he can barely read...
oh and last but not least
anyone else think the majority of artists def jam is pushing out this year are really really really bad? ex. the dream, jadakiss, slip-n-slide in general... (that's bad meaning ad not bad meaning good... muthafuka)
CoolJ300 2 years ago
IM from brooklyn aite 20 yrs plus now in miami.they listen 2 lil wayne. so ive listen 2 mos , jay and weezy.1st 4 ya tht dnt knw shit bout rap.jayz startd w/ big L. in t 90"s.Jay was on Big L dik jockin his style.listne 2 how wack jayz is.he got big swagga jackin other niggas stlyes. lil wayne is aite.he kinda fresh he knw how 2 sell albums but mos,talib n common, thy the sickest lyricist out there.whn it comes dwn 2 3-d lines.thy spit the sickest shit..you just gotta knw the game.Bk all day1
sincere1721 2 years ago
Amen, Sincere, Amen... I look at it like this in terms of lyrical skills: Mos' is the house master, Jay might be skilled enough to wash his dishes, and Lil Wayne aint even skilled enough to take out his garbage...
ecee77 2 years ago
Ole Girl Go Hard. And She Sexy. Lol
Returnofthearts 2 years ago 2
check out breeze coming up track
14mikemundine 2 years ago
A agree, the alch gave Mos too much courage, but the truth is...Mos is a dope lyracist. Now could he slay Jay-Z or Lil Wayne? Well, if they don't do the pay-per-view, I guess we'll never know. I mean, aint no use of speculating. True hip-hop headz know you prove yourselve in the cypher--If you ain proved yourself in the cypher, you aint proved yourself! Go tell them commercial rap lames to prove themeselves and stop running from competition like Bruce LeRoy.
sonofman1979 2 years ago
I like yo style Sonofman79. Commercial rap is getting old for me.
I would like to say that Mos would take it home but just because i would like to see the underdog take it all. and he isn't the underdog because of his skill but because those other rappers(jay and wayne) have better marketing schemes
gooseCha 2 years ago
Wayne is not a hot mc...he appeals to a bunch of dum dums who don't know REAL hip hop. E 40? Are you serious...hes not even in the top 1000! Its only 5 MC's who are deep enough to bring it to MOS..KRS,Kweli,Lupe,Jay,Nas....no one else can even comprehend the 3D lyrics that MOS has...one line can have 3 different meanings...all of which are relevant...We are talking MC's yall...not RAPPERs...there is a major difference!
KingEricTheFirst 2 years ago
THEY ARE THE SAME THING ! How many times do I have to say this ?
How can you eve say KRS-ONE but not know what you are talking about ?
This is just sad.
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
DOOM can bring it to DEF and NAS, I believe.
HGTZ 2 years ago 2
O_O I may not think he's the best rapper to ever grace the mic but he's still in my top ten!
Mos Def is my hero ! ^-^!
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
ok ok wayne is not a battle rapper?? but he will still pain mos def and jay-z YOU CANT NOT COMPARE THIS NIGGA TO HIM!!! Period but i dont know about kanye and 3000. but i would put up a stack on lil wayne and Jay
KeenanAlford 2 years ago
Who's that rocking the Gye Nyame chain?
nique88888 2 years ago
its good to see laughs. thanks whybei. thank you mos. and everybody havin fun.
smalltrav 2 years ago
That chick is a monsta.
Shticky12 2 years ago 2
i dunno but she's my new fav scratch lil momma :)
brayvo 2 years ago
How could you even like lil momma in the first place.
Shticky12 2 years ago
psh
brayvo 2 years ago
The dude that taped this is a straight loser. You insecure so you try to act Mos. What is your name sir?
What have you done in life?
Disrespecting others will get you no where son. And i mean that literally cause you acting like a kid.
Dude like 35 trying to be cool.
paper2006 2 years ago
how old do u think mos is???? or even jay? no one is disrespecting no one here besides u... what i've done in life is educate my brothers and sisters including mos and his family... i've also make sure ur able to vent ur opinions here and around this planet so freely... i guess it hurts u to see me laughing and hanging out wit my friends and family members instead of trying to kill each other... sorry for trying to give u a side of black people that is very rarely shown... - take care
whybei 2 years ago 5
Does anybody know who the girl is? I want to hear her music..rap....maybe she was on def jam poetry?
kaisajade 2 years ago
the girl is a killer
SoulHustlazTV 2 years ago
i dont even see how he could say he better than Jay-z ????????? what planet is he from jay will pain him hands down
KeenanAlford 2 years ago
mos def is hip hop...... jay z is bubble gum for kids that think they know hip hop. gotta stay off the blue pill man.
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
naw bro pretty sure jay is hip hop... mos is cold but jay is on a whole different level
jaydoug11 2 years ago
jay is more on the mc hammer side of hip hop and mos would be public enemy. i would call jay z the jonas brothers of hip hop. i mean jay is nice but lyrically NO nothing near mos.
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
nigga what Jay are you listening to... Im talkin about Jay-Z... mos wouldnt even give jay a head ache bruh...I aint saying he sucks...but the alcohol got that nigga a lil twisted...he off is rocker...and you are too.
jaydoug11 2 years ago
dude i have been listening to jay since you were still in jr. high.... lol jay z is okay. he's an average rapper who appeals to a certain market. if you like him thats ok to be a fan but im a hip hop head that has heard real emcees before and jay z is no emcee. he's a commercial rapper appealing to kids who like commercial rap. jay z = britney spears of hip hop & mos def = public enemy w/ lyrics of hip hop.
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
yo i never said jay wasn't nice but as far as him being better then mos.... the problem with most of you kids is that you grow up listening to a certain style and think thats it. thats all there is to it. i grew up listening to all type of hip hop. listened to emcees and rappers a like. if i wanna hear some swagger talk i'll listen to jay if i wanna hear some honest to goodness lyrics then i'll go underground.
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
and the point i was trying to make comparing him to britney was people can become more of a fan of a style then the persons talent. if you don't like that comparison then i'll go this route. jay is more like the hulk hogan. not the most skilled but the most popular. how about that?
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
jay-z is boss tho
adamcrumpet13 2 years ago 2
its a shame that people forget how gifted mos def is lyrically because he makes music and not just rap. back in 98 when Jay just started to shine, mos was already considered one of the best in the game lyrically. A battle between him and Jay would be legendary and could go either way.
chosendrawz 2 years ago 5
At the end Mos def is copying jay-z verse from Bluprint 2. I had more respect for Mos he sounds savage and lost his humility. He is good at what he does but I thought he was more civilized. what a shame
sONsONER0 2 years ago
what i like about you is the sisters you treat them well how you dress talk and move you are
cottonpickingtheif 2 years ago
all men get tired
cottonpickingtheif 2 years ago
The broad flowed harder than him on that joint, lol. He's my man and can flow, but most the stuff he was saying on there is over peoples head. If you say a lot of deep stuff, but nobody understands it, are you really effective? He doesn't rhyme like that all the time though. I rather have somebody that is a lyricist but rhymes so people can understand what theyre talking about and every day stuff ala Beanie Sigel, Sean Price, and Jay Z. Not about the moon, stars and Quasars!!! Lol
ccritter69 2 years ago
then thats the fault of the listener for not understanding not the rapper for being intelligent enough to have a vocab.
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
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breezefloetry 2 years ago
listen up people that clown on the video that "dont understand" its simple...MOS DEF kills them bitches, he got his own swag, not that gay shit!! mos will kill ALL them dudes & if you don't understand what mos def or ole' girl was saying....please...GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!! this is way the american education system is at its lowest ever!
weezy FAG baby, vegan3000, & jay z will get lynched by mos def....PERIOD!!!!
Simus1974 2 years ago
Mos is one of my favorites, inspired me to start writting raps, please come to my page and watch my rap "sad story" its about a depressed man who commits suicide and I made the beat too, if youre interested stop by and drop a comment of what you think.
tghetto5 2 years ago
the dude mos def is tlaking to is hella dumb... hes telling mos def to dumb down his music
iazisaid 2 years ago 4
'Amerikas rival',
owned you all lil bitches.
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1trip711 2 years ago
English please.
NahTrickNah 2 years ago
flava flav got braces taking out
mohamedak47warrior 2 years ago
mos def is off the hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyyy damn the nigger is GOOD
debrah7 2 years ago
is there a way to adjust brightness /contrast on this video?
I'm just seein eyes & teeth
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Skelator6 2 years ago
the camera man is so fucking dumb. he has the vocabulary of a 2-year-old.
andydeniedyou 2 years ago 2
lol
whybei 2 years ago
He didnt make up any words,he just used some big words,bein a rapper,a good rapper, you actually have to have a big vocab
defjam512 2 years ago
this shit is fuken retard, why do black people always make words up to rhyme, just because they can't think of one they just make up one. My fuken little sister can do that shit and she's only 4
dakel7 2 years ago
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!"
So T.S. Eliot is an idiot by your definition as well...
Um... fail...
senseimilla 2 years ago
that's lewis carroll
compassrose 2 years ago
oops you're right
i'm high, sue me t.s. eliot did some crazy nonsensicle shit too
senseimilla 2 years ago
Oh, and T.S. Eliot is white...
BURN!
senseimilla 2 years ago
"Skyscrapers is collosus, the cost of living
Is preposterous, stay alive, you play or die, no options
No batman and robin, cant tell between
The cops and the robbers, they both partners, they all heartless
With no conscience, back streets stay darkened
Where unbeliever hearts stay hardened"
This phrase (By Mos Def, same guy in this vid) utilizes extremely complex poetic devices for rhyming, FAR more complex than any 4 year old could conjure up... I would know, I'm a English Lit major at UC Berk
senseimilla 2 years ago 4
oOoooOo i'm very impressed with that complex bullshit you just typed
randomjunglist 2 years ago
that was hard i bet i took mos def like 3 hours to write that
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
you know there are legit freestylers in this world, mos is one. Ive seen him talk about shit around him when he was spitting. it was just as good. Why you hating? yeah bet you love Tpain and Huricane Chris, and Mike Jones, Solja boy, Chingy, ICP, Kevin Federline, Vanilla Ice, and BOW WOW. grow a sack
not everything is written. Just cuz you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done
gooseCha 2 years ago
I like T-Pain..........
Shoujoboy51 2 years ago
exactly.....
every song sounds the same. He says nothing
gooseCha 2 years ago
lol who the hell is icp lol man i am a rapper and i would destory any nigga on the mic son im not hatin i never hate but u must done lost yo mind if u think mos is fuccin with wayne or jay im sorry but mos a crazzy nigga for sayin that and hell yeah i love t pain cuz when i heard mos def say that dum shit i was like "freeze' "i cant believe it" mos def need to be "chopped and screwed"
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
gooseCha 2 years ago 2
lol to bad t-pain is a r&b singer and not a rapper mane hip hop is not dead nas lame ass just said that to make some bucks man look i hate haters man cuz im not one i admit hip hop subject matter has changed and evolved man hip hop will always changing it went from east to west and not the south runnin it so stop hatin bitch any ways back to whats to the main subject mos def is not better then lil wayne or jay z his work ethic his swagger and his delivery is no where is good as wayne
the end
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
avenuedabeast... True Ignorance.
emceemaka 2 years ago
avenuadabeast , why even comment on this video if all u can talk about is work ethic and swagger lol ur dumb..u act as if lyrical ability doesnt matter lol delivary dont mean shit if ur not saying anything and ur metaphors dont make sense!!!! lil wayne wouldnt show up to this event if it ever really happened cause then people would see him for who he trully is...TRASH!!! and this isnt about the south cause jay electronica got lyrical ability and hes from the same spot as wayne!!!
tameone 2 years ago
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
hahahahaha,,,lil wayne and word play, that was a good laugh lol go try listening to elzhi and ull hear what word play sounds like...and wow, plies lol lol seriously, u are too funny...i can see its pointless to argue with u about this cause if i named all the mcs better than the ones u just said, u wouldnt even know who they are cause there not on mtv
tameone 2 years ago
hahahahahahaha nice
gooseCha 2 years ago
Wow...I'm kind of speechless...mmm....I say no more. I'm with tameone on this though...
fayetality 2 years ago
lmao did this nigga put plies in his top 10?
plexmc 2 years ago
U fucking retard saying that Mos made up words , Pull out a dictionary and stop looking like a tool son.
Watttss 2 years ago
"You don't have to understand it, you could feel it"
Mos is an eternal beast!!!
str8pr0duct 2 years ago 2
mos def vs common is more fair
vtiful 2 years ago
he is drunk as hell
dakidkossreturns 2 years ago
even if he's drunk he'll beat lil wayne and jay z
Badilla92 2 years ago
that girl is sick! and to the haters that don' t appreciate the linguistic art need to just chill and shut their mouth
shaun9169 2 years ago
Mos Def.
Nuff Said.
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H2Kmonkey 2 years ago
mos def - greatest rapper alive
rochdalesleeper 2 years ago
camera dude a hater
EbeEazy 2 years ago 2
Mos Def hasn't made a good album in a million years.
Questpeace 2 years ago
only if your not a fan.
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
I am a fan of his stuff when he was good.
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Skelator6 2 years ago
0:50 "STOP TAKING THE BLUE PILL HOMIE!!!" thats tight
gooseCha 2 years ago
I agree that's dope. Mere genius IMO.
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hotflash13 2 years ago
who is mos def anywaus i thought he was a neyo soul singer/ movie starr i never heard him rap intill now he got massive word play skills but he dont got the energy or sawwger to even battle with wayne maybe jay z but not wayne i hope wayne takes his challange cuz if he and he wins then no one will ever doubt that hes the best rappper ever
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
ur gay, you don't know hip hop.
"superman that hoe" is sadly the highlight of your generation
gooseCha 2 years ago 2
no im a 90s baby tupac and biggie lived in that era bitch to great legands fucc you old head yall dont even know yall own fuccing history the frist hip hip song ever was a dance track so fuck off i admit my era is more about dancing hoes and drugs and money but shit we rapping what we live that all some of them niggas know mos def got nice word play he anit on some real shit u wanna hear some real shit play some tupac play some plies play some kayne man
avenue out!!! bitch
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
so how can you hate on mos def?
you confused fuck. Dont even come at me sideways with Pac, like i don't know who he is and what he stood for. from your previous message i thought you were 16. Thats why i said your generation, so slow your role. next time show some respect to Def cuz hes been around for a while and he doesnt sell because he is a conscience artist, all people want now is that gay ass "supper man that hoe" im a 90's baby too, and ive seen rap get worse after pac and big died
gooseCha 2 years ago
Wow. You are why people hate Lil Wayne. Ask any real hip hop head, We hate Lil Wayne fans more than Lil Wayne. You all are fucking idiots.
The sooner you realize there is no such thing as "The best rapper ever", the sooner you can take weezy's dick out of your mouth.
HipH0Pe 2 years ago
im curious what does swagger have to do with skill???
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA!!!! You have to be fucking JOKING! Mos def is a genius, activist, intellectual. Mos Def is an ARTIST. Wayne is happy rapping about getting his dick sucked and sexual escapades. Fuck today's SODA POP HIP HOP. THINK!!!
emaldo08 2 years ago 2
Hes a lyrical genius
crazyschocke 2 years ago 3
hell naw
avenuedabeast 2 years ago
mos def is a joke... a know nothing dude...
gskowal 2 years ago
hahaha you dont know rap kid, this guy was a legend when you still had your moms nipples in your teeth
SporkDrinker 2 years ago 2
YEAH maybe he is good rapping but he made a fool of himself on the Bill Maher show.. not knowing what he is talking about...
gskowal 2 years ago
dare i say lauryn hill????...reloaded!
cleff01 2 years ago
yo that girl wit mos can spit. her name soul child she said? she gotta find a new name or somethin cause i tried searchin her and stuff and all i get is musiq. i'd like to hear more of her shit tho
boccardo428 2 years ago 2
mos def is better
swiftomatik 2 years ago
Whats funny is that the guy doubting Mos Def is basically saying Mos Def should dumb down if he intends to beat Lil' Wayne or these other rappers in a battle; that's what I find funny.
That woman I think her name is Soul Child can rap her ass off I wonder if she has any songs I can check out.
loveistaught 2 years ago
Thats what Im thinking. Was that guy making fun of him for having a big vocabulary? That just ridiculous on a whole new level.
brainfreeeeeze 2 years ago
BrainFreeze that's kids now day they are negative about everything and everyone and hate their lives so much that they have to just bash everything even if it is of complete genius. Respect doesn't exist in their world...
alexr29 2 years ago
wayne sucks ass jay is good but i dont think he could beat mos in a battle mos would kill them in a battle mos def rhymes be on another level his shit actually be intelligent he need to get back with talib and get us a new black star album mos the true king of NY for real
Ajc3825 2 years ago 5
Mos smokes?
dmacontop 2 years ago
wat u think fool.
of course
blunt smoke retrace the skyline...
hmm
weed> yes
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