Good Faith, acting honourable, assisting the other party.

[matthew376]

Ben this isn't going to work. They hate you. UCC and Commerce is totally evil. Haha good come from Ben I hope it will help you

[benlowreyhimself]

@matthew376

;-)

[jonahmack]

Courts are not interested in good faith and honour they just want you to pay the tribute. The concept of system designed on implied contract say's everything about the architects of the system. A system designed to deceive. You a coming in as the accommodation party and they see you as that. But have you told them you are not?

[Zurnmusic]

winston shrout stated that the corporation "USofA" was in bankruptcy and that it ended in 1999, so how are "citizens" still able to operate as if we are in a bankruptcy by "accepting for value"? The newest offshore corp is called "dept of homeland security" is it in bankrupcy also? are citizens the collateral? let me know if you can help, thanks ;)

[Zurnmusic]

yes, i agree they do it perfectly. they keep us confused, illiterate and unable to properly defend ourselves using legal counsil. they also perfectly dumb us down in the schools and use the media to completely confuse everyone into believing their reality. for example, all the judge judy style court shows, and shows like "cops" , my point is that UCC and commerce works, but only for those few who can see and understand it. everyone else is decived. hope that makes sense, i understand UCC and all

[matthew376]

@Zurnmusic What do you mean by the terminology 'UCC and commerce works'?

[Zurnmusic]

@matthew376 i was saying that "commerce works" the system does work. it operates under "uniform commercial code" and is a good system, my larger point is that its a shame that society is designed to keep people illiterate to how the UCC and commerce works. my opinion is that people are kept illiterate to these remedies in commerce on purpose. schools and media never discuss the true nature of operating in commerce. the elite explote and encourage societies ignorance.

[benlowreyhimself]

@Zurnmusic

i partially agree but i believe we are all responsible for discovering information. I don't believe it's anybody's duty to teach me commercial law. the information is available to all. but %99 are not interested.

[MrFmmcosta]

agreed

[wobbers99]

Fair Doo's

[gutsrace]

Here's a way to confirm what Gordon says- A judge can't make a decision or judgment that inconsistent with law, process, standing, contract , etc without causing total CHAOS with other court cases. If one judge sets a precedent simply for the outcome to be somehow favorable to some special interest it would unravel all of the other judges decisions. If a judge did that he'd look like a FOOL. Gordon is as correct as the judges- Perfectly.

[benlowreyhimself]

@gutsrace

very well said. thank you.

[MrRiceowlex]

@gutsrace Hi guts, Ben everyone, I'm not sure what it's like in the UK but in the US judges act as administrators first and foremost, there is no money for the corp they work for in statutes and code. They prefer guilty as charged until proven innocent, or as Winston would say "Guilty of the Facts" What we must do here is to hold the judge to their oaths either from the floor of the court, a certified accepted copy of their oath in their private file. Believe it or not most don't have oaths.

[MrRiceowlex]

@MrRiceowlex If the judge has no oath then according to US law every decision they've rendered without an oath is void. There are several methods to the madness. You do have to bond yourself. With that insurance you can appoint the prosecutor your fiduciary and demand he settle and close the account. You can simply bond the clerk and demand same. Your bond is the ultimate counter claim, failing that a notarized security agreement has a strong effect, but it doesn't provide the court indemnity.

[shirleystemple]

Very interesting reflection.

Thanks.