Effectively, each number appears to him like a shape, when he multiplies for example, the two shapes are placed next to eachother and the gap in between is his result.
The question is not what amount of our brain we use, but what we don't use. We don't know how much we are capable of until we push past our own limits. We limit ourselves by not caring, not trying, and by doing other things that are more entertaining and with less thought-involved. Google a video on Neuro-Plasticity sometime that dispels the rumor that we lose brain power b/c we age. Our brain ability is a function of "Use-Or-Lose".
@illisanantexico As evidenced by children abused by their parents by being locked in a basement etc. Their brain ends up actually physically smaller, their intellect is crippled, and all from lack of using it.
It's like any other part of the body.... you really can get dumber sitting looking at a computer screen, or watching TV...
In addition to that physical exercise and diet are also major variables.
FYI /watch?v=FkXtz72hjDI is sufficient just up to the '&' (not sure if you knew that)
@MumblingMickey If by "getting dumber sitting looking at a computer screen" you mean using the computer makes dumber as a general statement, I definitely cannot agree. I've taught myself numerous skills on the computer that many university graduates could only dream of. Programming, electronics, engineering, music production & mastering to list a few. People coming from a university are often just "theorists" with no practical skill whatsoever.
But watching TV definitely makes dumber, I concur.
@hardstyle905 Well no having been a devotee of all things techno since I was a kid...and first sitting at a usable computer in 1980 I'm not saying that productive use of technology is not exercising your brain...so long as you get up off the chair and do some physical exercise during the day.
I'm referring to the other several billion people who just vegetate in front of facebook or play computer games.. Not that I'm not a fan of both...but you get my drift...
@Mehemeq evolution doesn't work on individuals, it only works on populations... so even if he had an IQ of 400 then it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the general population since his genius would be washed out in a few generations anyway.
Now if we introduced a pressure on the whole population that made stupid people be more likely to die before they reproduced, well at that pint Daniel has an evolutionary advantage.
Unfortunately there's no danger of such a thing on the horizon.
@Unrealistix tut tut tut... c'mon now... stupid people have their uses...and they are usually quiet a happy bunch of folk....
I'd absolutely hate to live in a world where I actually had to work hard for a living due to a lack of people who weren't too bright...
Who'd get me my coffee? who'd answer the support call? who'd serve me my bagel at lunchtime? who'd stuff meaningless flyers through my letterbox? (scratch that last one)
You seriously underestimate the importance of the stupid!
@Mehemeq yeah its not uncommon even in the general population. I'm sure you've experienced it yourself for very brief periods. eg. a smell that reminds you of Christmas.
Daniel just has that all the time. He can see numbers but experiences them using not just visual perception but sound and taste and small too.
His perception is screwed up or damaged. He might have literally got a bang on the head as a kid. Which as a side effect gives him these abilities.
@zamrock20 I don't think anyone is suggesting he's much more intelligent. Being able to do serious mental arithmetic is not the be all and end all of intellect...a computer can do that...
He's just able to throw large amounts of numbers around in his head. That won't make him a great physicist or biologist just good at mental arithmetic.
It might higher is IQ score a little...but if we corrected that for the fact he's a walking calculator then he's more or less just average.
@yumeybaconcutout Well to be honest I think the whole IQ measuring stick breaks down after 135 or so. It depends on what skills he has that someone measured as brighter does not..
For example I'm really good at math but I'm pretty average in other areas.. Someone who scored lower might do better there! My quotient therefore is primarily memory and math and compensates for all the areas I score low in...Does that really make me brighter?
It just seems meaningless above a certain point..
@Unrealistix Agree... its pretty much a dick measuring contest after say the top 5%.
One of my most interesting experiences was being beaten at chess by a 12 year old,
Now I'm not good at chess, and not a great fan of the game either. Yet that same 12 year old (who is now in his mid 20's) dropped out of his physics course claiming it was simply beyond him. Which is odd when you consider it wasn't for me.
One measurement of core intellect is way too simplistic.
@Unrealistix most people with iqs of 180 are considered more intelligent than those with 150. of course you make a good point, that intelligence is not easily quantified, and that there are different forms of smartness. but still, you can tell the difference between 150 and 180.
@yumeybaconcutout No disagreement.... I'd be delighted to hear that all my own students had taken psychometric tests and scored in the 170-80 range.. rather than 150...it'd make my job a shit load easier....
But only on average... I know from experiences I'd still get some crazy crap produced by people who are top of that list!
I just think we need to drop the single score mentality... its just not relevant.
@yumeybaconcutout But I can tell you where it IS relevant... it's relevant in the average and low scoring samples...where its important to address educational needs.
Anyway intellect is not the summit of living a productive life. I often wonder why it carries such value. Most well respected, productive and wealthy people that aren't very bright at all, and are also pretty nice people.
The entire 'intelligence' debate leaves a bad taste in my mouth... I find it an 'uncomfortable' subject.
CONT. Conversely I have also noticed a common phenomena for bright people to be somewhat arrogant... and I can understand why that might be, specifically bright teenagers and young adults.
And this does cause them to be unhappy... which to my mind is the entire purpose of being.
Yet if you look at people who generally aren't too bright the arrogance level falls through the floor... and happiness increases.
Although I'm not obviously advocating lobotomy for the gifted! ;)
Daniel Tammet is either a fraud or misclassified. All other savants have relatively severe mental disabilities in contrast to their ability. Kim Peek, Christopher Taylor, Leslie, Savant Twins, Rex, etc all have great abilities but also great disabilities. Daniel Tammet does not. I think he's just very good with mnemonic memory techniques, but is not a savant. He is the odd one out all others and is either fraud or misclassified in the savant category.
@PornoSatan So if all of those listed were born in May, and Daniel was born in, say, September, he would be a fraud of misclassified? Not all autistic people are savants, and not all savants are autistic.
@PornoSatan I think he might actually be synesthetic...which gives him the ability to experience numbers through his other senses... he can smell and hear numbers or they might have textures or taste and are therefore a lot more easy to conceptualize for him...than you or I.
I don't think we know enough about intellect to classify people like him....
But if a cat scan says he's a savant...then assuming 'savant' is defined, an an accepted trait, (not sure if it is) he's a savant.
@ridersofrohan456 Since I already explained it once, you should just save us all the trouble and google '10% of brain myth' and check the wikipedia page. Or any of the other links for that matter..
@ButtSchex I'm not sure where this came from... but when I heard it as a kid I questioned it right away... it would be a spectacular waste of resources for humans to only use 10% of any organ at one time.
As it turns out even at the age of 10 with no computers or internet and the nearest library 4 miles away I was still able to work out correctly that it was a totally incorrect.
The other was the idea that scientist say bees can't fly.
Ps-He didn't surpase the computer, it was only programmed to display that many digits. Don't get me wrong, he's fucking CRAZY with math but he cannot match a computers speed and accuracy
@TranquilThought given the fact we all walk around with computers in our pockets these days and that his skill is related solely to calculations of mental arithmetic then the only difference I can see is that he doesn't need to pull out his phone to add up the weekly grocery billl...
50 years ago it'd elevate him to accountant...today he's just a walking calculator.
He is not faster or more powerfull, than a modern processor. I made a little program, that I named "gammbot" after the mental calculator Rüdiger Gamm. It is designed for commodore c16, and surpasses him by far.
You can watch it at my account.
It will give an endless number of digits and will never become slower or inacurate.
@CaptainNorris lol im pretty sure #ballistics was being sarcastic. Rudiger Gamm, a german human calculator, said himself that he does about 20 to 30 "cycles" per second which is OF COURSE no way as fast as a modern cpu, for example a cpu with 2.4 GHz does 2.4 BILLION cycles per second.
@hardstyle905 The 'meat' processor and the 'solid state' one aren't really comparable... for one thing the computer processor runs calculations in a linear fashion.
A brain however can carry out millions of instructions concurrently. Theres even evidence it uses quantum mechanics... so its not really the sort of thing one can make a speed comparisons of.
A brain will still win for sheer ability to crunch data whether its his brain, yours, mine or a mouse!
@MumblingMickey At floating point calculations, humans always have, and always will lose against the stupid CPU. But, in my 10 month-old comment I didn't say the brain wasn't powerful at all. I just replied to the comment comparing human brain to a i7 processor.
@hardstyle905 yeah i seen the age of the comment after I pressed reply and the original comment.
I think something really has to be done to educate the public as to what technology is and what it is not., otherwise they'll end up like my mother...who at 84 argues over the phone with voicemail and computer answering services. We gave up explaining it to her.
You'd laugh your head off at my voice mail messages in work...she comes in half way through a sentence arguing with the phone system...
@CaptainNorris the c16...lol thats a blast from the past.... I think I still have a sinclair spectrum and a c64 gathering dust in my mothers attic... it must be still there after 25 years...
@CaptainNorris the c16... man that brings back memories.... I had simons basic on the c64 before i took up assembly... then processors just got too complex for assembly.... or rather I got too lazy and learned C instead...
Ahh distant memories of the 1980's...when nerds were real nerds... when it was unfashionable to be bright....not like the 'plastic' nerds you get these days! ;)
@MumblingMickey Assembly is still useful for optimization. But you're right about the "plastic nerds". That's why today, I'm designing my own CPUs, own instruction set, own games ;)
The less I think about a sum the better it comes to me... I can only imagine that if a disability stopped me from thinking too hard then it would force me to indulge on that technique for every sum.
Tremendous demonstration of unique intellectual prowess, mixed most agreeably with a gentle spirit.
Interesting observing how instinctive it is for some to attempt to jockey themselves past others, preferring criticism to affirmation. Eli Siegel observed that (insecure) people tend to make more and more of themselves by making less and less of the world around them. I say criticism is far too small a fig leaf with which to conceal one's own sense of inadequacy...
apparently this savant syndrome is actually disability because to get the answer to these sums your brain requires you not to think to much about it and think simply and clearly but maybe if our brains where higher functional than a savants then we over load ourselves with too much information to make sense of it.
@CHRISTMASBASTARD Einsteins math wasn't the best to be honest. But thats beside the point...that computer you are using could do the mental arithmetic he done thousands of times faster... but that does not make your computer intelligent...just fast at arithmetic.
So my guess is if you asked him what value in MeV is given off in a single proton-proton chain reaction cycle he'd know how to calculate the answer but not without knowing what to do to calculate it.
i remember reading somewhere that we as humans, can only consciously use ~6% of our maximum brain power. Perhaps he was able to tap into that pool of greater brain efficiency, and thus be able to demonstrate such phenomenal powers.
@asiangamer64 Believe it or not the 5-10% thing is a common misconception. We use pretty much our entire brain (though not all at once at all times). The synapses which don't get used will be 'pruned' or disconnected, which increases efficiency- kinda like uninstalling programs/games you don't use any more on a computer. However, you're not far off the mark- as savant syndrome is likely due to differently sized/configured brain structures/ways the neurons are connected, leading to 'genius'!
@ButtSchex where did you here about this? it sounds interesting, do you know of any good web links that i can have a read regarding this matter? thank you :)
@ButtSchex Firstly LOL at your name. Ok well my idea is considering Savantism usually comes with some form of mental illness which makes them lack social abilities, I believe savants simply posess the ability to focus more of their brain power towards a another task. E.g if you were running many games at the same time on a computer then the Fps would be low however if you were to run less games and save some memory, then you would see a significant increase in fps in the remaining open game.
@asiangamer64 If that were true, you would be willing to have me remove 94% of yours, or even just 10%. The reason tiny traumas (stroke) invariably have after effects is that all of it is used, and much at once. As mentioned, that which is not used is recycled.
@asiangamer64 That's just bullcrap... its a meme that seems to move through the population... but since you can clearly see on a cart scan you are using 100% of your brain 100% of the time even when sleeping then it should be obvious its total nonsense.
Its not what percentage of your brain you are using that gives one higher or lower brain function...its how those bits interact that distinguishes those traits
Lots of these ideas are not only incorrect, but a seconds logic tells you so!
This guy is the answer... all he has to do is learn the ancient sumarian language and then tell us what the messages mean from the crop circles left by the UFO's.
This guy is the answer... all he has to do is learn the ancient sumarian language and then tell us what the messages mean from the crop circles left by the UFO's.
Tammet cannot calculate. He only has a good memory . He never competes in World Mental Calculation Championships or other calculating competitions like Rudiger Gamm. Seems like an autistic with just a very high funtioning memory, no other genious skills..
@astarin Yes. I am competing to the Mental Calculation World Cup in 2 weeks. Plus I'm not a native English speaker, hence my spelling mistake. I do some, occasionally. Give foreigners a break!!
@Neueregel You need to learn what you're talking about before you talk. Seriously, I'd like to see you do half the things he can do. Further, if universities like Cambridge and Oxford (as he claims) are studying him with active interest, I'm sure he's far above competing in these "mental" competitions. And, also, it would be kind of unfair to put him in one because, without a doubt, he would destroy anyone else in it blindfolded and with both hands tied behind his back.
@gobipill you cannot make arguments with mere assumptions. The fact is that he DOES NOT compete in international calculation competitions, probably because he is scared to lose. (same thing that happened to Rudiger Gamm) As soon as he enters and wins any, then yes i'll consider him a genius !! But now why?? Because of a TV programme show? Don't believe the shows, He's over-hyped IMO
@Neueregel "As soon as he enters and wins, you'll consider him a genius"? Neither he, nor I, nor anyone else who cares needs you to validate his intelligence. He's quite famous for his abilities and, whether he is or isn't a savant is irrelevant; he is considered to be one and you, a single person, not believing him is a nonissue. If you don't believe in savants, that's great, but other people, in fact, most people do (just read the other comments and you'll see) and that's all that matters.
@gobipill Look, I don't say he is not a savant. He is an autistic with good intelligence but not calculating genius. He only memorises stuff and numbers sequences and is over-hyped and famous because he gets along well with the TV show producers.I can name you 50 faster 'mental' calculators in the world better than him, but don't want more publicity. Being on TV only makes you the most outspoken public figure, not the best. Winning in ACTUAL international competitions is what makes you THE BEST
@Neueregel one thing that you miss is that instead of "becoming the best" in some contest, his interest regards higher and nobler purposes than some prize won at international competitions. He dedicates his life for the scientific community for all of us, that includes me and you. So please stop dropping gealous comments because you'll only make a fool of yourself.
@DuMyth 'He dedicates his life?' come on man!! They just chose him for an EEG/ fMRI experiment. He is not even a scientist himself. In fact i would classify him as pseudo-scientist, because of his tendency to promote all this synesthesia mumbo jumbo
@artisart He had epelepsy. He got brain-surgery and after that he was able to do huge calculations. So I wouldn't call it evolution. There are people who can do this without needing surgery but most of them are autistic and can't even shave themselves or dress. there's a documentery of this guy of about an hour.
Also i favorited a vid about kim peek. (for if you find this interesting :P)
this kid is smart. IQ is not determined by an ability to study math. Yet if we all study a brand new type of mathematics together, then if after a like meter of time we all compare our differences we can determine a measurable intelligence. Just suppose this person has access to a way to slow down aging. You can not be so sure based on this video. Even more striking is a scene of a computer, a voice, and nothing visually linking them to scientific measure. How easy it is to be better here.
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this dude is wicked smart and talented but he's no savant. If he was the answers would come instantaniously and not after some thought. He obviously practices these mental exercises constantly the same way a master pianist plays for 8 hours a day. And we wouldn't label every concert piano player a savant. It's a rare talent for sure- and he is probably on the genius level- but don't compare him to Rain Man because that's an entirely different level of cognitive function.
haha i did 13/97 to the same decimal place as the calculator. ive been able to do these calculations since third grade and it really does freak people out.
Our brain is a magnitude more advanced than apes. So there will be people which have abilities a magnitude higher than the avarage. The size of the brain has to be taken into account. If someone has an extraordinary ability then some abilities must give. The other thing is our visual cortex is much bigger and more suffisticated than other part. we take for granted what we do visually. Some brains cross-wire and SEE numbers using this area and therefore can do amazing things such as this.
@BranVan10k In fact 13/97 is rather easy once you memorise the '96 repeating digits' pattern. Tammet obviously memorised that pattern before the show. However, in World Cup last month, a surprise task was to calculate a random denominator& subsequently, calculate mentally the division 3082 / 113 with as many decimal digits accurate as possible, in just 10 mins! The winner found 'only' 37 decimals, i was stubborn enough to get away with 21 decimal digits.So, Random Denominator=more fun, less hoax
I think it's cool that he's visually multiplying them! But honestly (and I'm not joking and no I'm not showing off) it's not that hard to multiply/ divide large numbers. You just have to know how to do it right and practice.
Interesting that he stated he could give the answer to 100 places, when in fact the decimal recurs with a period of 97. So he could give the exact answer. Did he really not know this?
Autism spectrum disorders are diagnosed when there is an evident impairment. In the case of Daniel Tammet, he says he has difficulties with recognising emotions, faces, social cues and the like. He is lucky in that he seems to have adapted very well into society. Autistic savants usually have detailed knowledge in a narrow field.
Einstein had no such impairments. He was notoriously lively, social, playful and larger than life - the stereotypical mad scientist and the complete opposite of autism.
Even if the doctor's found out how Daniel is doing this.... They would never reviel it to the public if it could be done in surgery easy, witch make's me sad... BUT we can all atleast learn cant we? I mean if Daniel Tammet can do Pie up to 25 thousand numbers.... why do you think we could not be able to atleast mamorize 800 of them? this has been done at my school, and she is not a savant.
"Though it is even more rare than the savant condition itself, some savants have no apparent abnormalities other than their unique abilities. This does not mean that these abilities weren't triggered by a brain injury of some sort but does temper the theory that all savants are disabled and that some sort of trade-off is required."
1+1=3
TheDaviderek 2 days ago
does he say the method he does this,
i mean the way he thinks
LanRous 2 months ago
@LanRous
Effectively, each number appears to him like a shape, when he multiplies for example, the two shapes are placed next to eachother and the gap in between is his result.
mckseal 2 months ago
The question is not what amount of our brain we use, but what we don't use. We don't know how much we are capable of until we push past our own limits. We limit ourselves by not caring, not trying, and by doing other things that are more entertaining and with less thought-involved. Google a video on Neuro-Plasticity sometime that dispels the rumor that we lose brain power b/c we age. Our brain ability is a function of "Use-Or-Lose".
illisanantexico 4 months ago
@illisanantexico (in addendum) Here's the link: ^^^^
/watch?v=FkXtz72hjDI&list=PL726C7D79518975FE&index=1
illisanantexico 4 months ago
@illisanantexico As evidenced by children abused by their parents by being locked in a basement etc. Their brain ends up actually physically smaller, their intellect is crippled, and all from lack of using it.
It's like any other part of the body.... you really can get dumber sitting looking at a computer screen, or watching TV...
In addition to that physical exercise and diet are also major variables.
FYI /watch?v=FkXtz72hjDI is sufficient just up to the '&' (not sure if you knew that)
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@MumblingMickey If by "getting dumber sitting looking at a computer screen" you mean using the computer makes dumber as a general statement, I definitely cannot agree. I've taught myself numerous skills on the computer that many university graduates could only dream of. Programming, electronics, engineering, music production & mastering to list a few. People coming from a university are often just "theorists" with no practical skill whatsoever.
But watching TV definitely makes dumber, I concur.
hardstyle905 3 months ago
@hardstyle905 Well no having been a devotee of all things techno since I was a kid...and first sitting at a usable computer in 1980 I'm not saying that productive use of technology is not exercising your brain...so long as you get up off the chair and do some physical exercise during the day.
I'm referring to the other several billion people who just vegetate in front of facebook or play computer games.. Not that I'm not a fan of both...but you get my drift...
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@Mehemeq evolution doesn't work on individuals, it only works on populations... so even if he had an IQ of 400 then it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the general population since his genius would be washed out in a few generations anyway.
Now if we introduced a pressure on the whole population that made stupid people be more likely to die before they reproduced, well at that pint Daniel has an evolutionary advantage.
Unfortunately there's no danger of such a thing on the horizon.
Unrealistix 5 months ago
@Unrealistix tut tut tut... c'mon now... stupid people have their uses...and they are usually quiet a happy bunch of folk....
I'd absolutely hate to live in a world where I actually had to work hard for a living due to a lack of people who weren't too bright...
Who'd get me my coffee? who'd answer the support call? who'd serve me my bagel at lunchtime? who'd stuff meaningless flyers through my letterbox? (scratch that last one)
You seriously underestimate the importance of the stupid!
;)
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@Mehemeq yeah its not uncommon even in the general population. I'm sure you've experienced it yourself for very brief periods. eg. a smell that reminds you of Christmas.
Daniel just has that all the time. He can see numbers but experiences them using not just visual perception but sound and taste and small too.
His perception is screwed up or damaged. He might have literally got a bang on the head as a kid. Which as a side effect gives him these abilities.
MumblingMickey 5 months ago
Cool... he's awesome. And he has high functioning autism
dburns3751 6 months ago
I wonder what his IQ is.
808thampire 8 months ago
he's also homosexual
sometimesilovelife 9 months ago
so if he's so smart why hasn't he made any valid contributions in any field >?
zamrock20 9 months ago
@zamrock20 he has, hes been writing books, visiting university's, running test with scientist etc
artisart 8 months ago
@zamrock20 I don't think anyone is suggesting he's much more intelligent. Being able to do serious mental arithmetic is not the be all and end all of intellect...a computer can do that...
He's just able to throw large amounts of numbers around in his head. That won't make him a great physicist or biologist just good at mental arithmetic.
It might higher is IQ score a little...but if we corrected that for the fact he's a walking calculator then he's more or less just average.
Unrealistix 5 months ago
@Unrealistix he said his iq is 150. genius, but not high genius.
yumeybaconcutout 3 months ago
@yumeybaconcutout Well to be honest I think the whole IQ measuring stick breaks down after 135 or so. It depends on what skills he has that someone measured as brighter does not..
For example I'm really good at math but I'm pretty average in other areas.. Someone who scored lower might do better there! My quotient therefore is primarily memory and math and compensates for all the areas I score low in...Does that really make me brighter?
It just seems meaningless above a certain point..
Unrealistix 3 months ago
@Unrealistix Agree... its pretty much a dick measuring contest after say the top 5%.
One of my most interesting experiences was being beaten at chess by a 12 year old,
Now I'm not good at chess, and not a great fan of the game either. Yet that same 12 year old (who is now in his mid 20's) dropped out of his physics course claiming it was simply beyond him. Which is odd when you consider it wasn't for me.
One measurement of core intellect is way too simplistic.
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@Unrealistix most people with iqs of 180 are considered more intelligent than those with 150. of course you make a good point, that intelligence is not easily quantified, and that there are different forms of smartness. but still, you can tell the difference between 150 and 180.
yumeybaconcutout 3 months ago
@yumeybaconcutout No disagreement.... I'd be delighted to hear that all my own students had taken psychometric tests and scored in the 170-80 range.. rather than 150...it'd make my job a shit load easier....
But only on average... I know from experiences I'd still get some crazy crap produced by people who are top of that list!
I just think we need to drop the single score mentality... its just not relevant.
Unrealistix 3 months ago
@yumeybaconcutout But I can tell you where it IS relevant... it's relevant in the average and low scoring samples...where its important to address educational needs.
Anyway intellect is not the summit of living a productive life. I often wonder why it carries such value. Most well respected, productive and wealthy people that aren't very bright at all, and are also pretty nice people.
The entire 'intelligence' debate leaves a bad taste in my mouth... I find it an 'uncomfortable' subject.
Unrealistix 3 months ago
CONT. Conversely I have also noticed a common phenomena for bright people to be somewhat arrogant... and I can understand why that might be, specifically bright teenagers and young adults.
And this does cause them to be unhappy... which to my mind is the entire purpose of being.
Yet if you look at people who generally aren't too bright the arrogance level falls through the floor... and happiness increases.
Although I'm not obviously advocating lobotomy for the gifted! ;)
Unrealistix 3 months ago
@Unrealistix i agree.
yumeybaconcutout 3 months ago
Daniel Tammet is either a fraud or misclassified. All other savants have relatively severe mental disabilities in contrast to their ability. Kim Peek, Christopher Taylor, Leslie, Savant Twins, Rex, etc all have great abilities but also great disabilities. Daniel Tammet does not. I think he's just very good with mnemonic memory techniques, but is not a savant. He is the odd one out all others and is either fraud or misclassified in the savant category.
PornoSatan 9 months ago
@PornoSatan So if all of those listed were born in May, and Daniel was born in, say, September, he would be a fraud of misclassified? Not all autistic people are savants, and not all savants are autistic.
niptuck117 6 months ago
@PornoSatan I think he might actually be synesthetic...which gives him the ability to experience numbers through his other senses... he can smell and hear numbers or they might have textures or taste and are therefore a lot more easy to conceptualize for him...than you or I.
I don't think we know enough about intellect to classify people like him....
But if a cat scan says he's a savant...then assuming 'savant' is defined, an an accepted trait, (not sure if it is) he's a savant.
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
Just fascinating
ukstevey 10 months ago
y wasnt this guy on super humans
mrbezzy117 10 months ago
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@asiangamer64 we "use" only 10% of our brain is correct, but we're not able to put all of our brain at one task
ridersofrohan456 11 months ago
@ridersofrohan456 Since I already explained it once, you should just save us all the trouble and google '10% of brain myth' and check the wikipedia page. Or any of the other links for that matter..
ButtSchex 11 months ago 12
@ButtSchex I'm not sure where this came from... but when I heard it as a kid I questioned it right away... it would be a spectacular waste of resources for humans to only use 10% of any organ at one time.
As it turns out even at the age of 10 with no computers or internet and the nearest library 4 miles away I was still able to work out correctly that it was a totally incorrect.
The other was the idea that scientist say bees can't fly.
Where do people get these weird ideas?
MumblingMickey 5 months ago
@ridersofrohan456 We use 100% of our brains (but not all at the same time). It's an urban myth that we only use 10% of our brain.
JohnnyKubark 7 months ago 16
@ridersofrohan456 We don't only use 10% of our brain, are we back in the third grade or something? wow....
feuchster 5 months ago
no u retard konzwambii hes is infinty smarter that u
537benji 1 year ago
I would pay good money to be in the mind of Mr. Tammet for a day. I'd love to see how this all works.
niptuck117 1 year ago
amazing that a savant with such abilities can function soooo well. if i met him, i probably would even guess that he was autistic
scotfreak 1 year ago
@scotfreak He's not the one with a mental disability, you are.
DAKMAIN 1 year ago
@DAKMAIN what? im making a nice comment here. whats up youre ass
scotfreak 1 year ago
1+1= ?
that's the real test
proistas13 1 year ago
@proistas13 Is the answer '7'?
niptuck117 1 year ago
This guy looks like the assassin on the train in 'Knight & Day'.
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niptuck117 1 year ago
Ps-He didn't surpase the computer, it was only programmed to display that many digits. Don't get me wrong, he's fucking CRAZY with math but he cannot match a computers speed and accuracy
TranquilThought 1 year ago
@TranquilThought given the fact we all walk around with computers in our pockets these days and that his skill is related solely to calculations of mental arithmetic then the only difference I can see is that he doesn't need to pull out his phone to add up the weekly grocery billl...
50 years ago it'd elevate him to accountant...today he's just a walking calculator.
Unrealistix 5 months ago
He is even more powerful than a Core i7 processor.
ballistics 1 year ago
@ballistics
He is not faster or more powerfull, than a modern processor. I made a little program, that I named "gammbot" after the mental calculator Rüdiger Gamm. It is designed for commodore c16, and surpasses him by far.
You can watch it at my account.
It will give an endless number of digits and will never become slower or inacurate.
CaptainNorris 1 year ago
@CaptainNorris
Nice program friend. Yea, I've also seen Rudiger Gamm's videos. He's insane.
ballistics 1 year ago
@CaptainNorris lol im pretty sure #ballistics was being sarcastic. Rudiger Gamm, a german human calculator, said himself that he does about 20 to 30 "cycles" per second which is OF COURSE no way as fast as a modern cpu, for example a cpu with 2.4 GHz does 2.4 BILLION cycles per second.
hardstyle905 1 year ago
@hardstyle905 The 'meat' processor and the 'solid state' one aren't really comparable... for one thing the computer processor runs calculations in a linear fashion.
A brain however can carry out millions of instructions concurrently. Theres even evidence it uses quantum mechanics... so its not really the sort of thing one can make a speed comparisons of.
A brain will still win for sheer ability to crunch data whether its his brain, yours, mine or a mouse!
Which might change soon, who knows?
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@MumblingMickey At floating point calculations, humans always have, and always will lose against the stupid CPU. But, in my 10 month-old comment I didn't say the brain wasn't powerful at all. I just replied to the comment comparing human brain to a i7 processor.
hardstyle905 3 months ago
@hardstyle905 yeah i seen the age of the comment after I pressed reply and the original comment.
I think something really has to be done to educate the public as to what technology is and what it is not., otherwise they'll end up like my mother...who at 84 argues over the phone with voicemail and computer answering services. We gave up explaining it to her.
You'd laugh your head off at my voice mail messages in work...she comes in half way through a sentence arguing with the phone system...
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@CaptainNorris the c16...lol thats a blast from the past.... I think I still have a sinclair spectrum and a c64 gathering dust in my mothers attic... it must be still there after 25 years...
Unrealistix 5 months ago
@CaptainNorris the c16... man that brings back memories.... I had simons basic on the c64 before i took up assembly... then processors just got too complex for assembly.... or rather I got too lazy and learned C instead...
Ahh distant memories of the 1980's...when nerds were real nerds... when it was unfashionable to be bright....not like the 'plastic' nerds you get these days! ;)
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@MumblingMickey Assembly is still useful for optimization. But you're right about the "plastic nerds". That's why today, I'm designing my own CPUs, own instruction set, own games ;)
hardstyle905 3 months ago
11:11
lonecrow66 1 year ago
I use less than 1% of my brain. That's why I'm here watching youtube vids.
konzwambii 1 year ago
@konzwambii
Maybe you. Everyone else uses 100% of their brain.
Retard.
ownage999912 1 year ago
As a constipated mathematician, even I can't work it out with a pencil.
konzwambii 1 year ago
Good skillz. However, in today's world with all the modern computers etc, people with more general, broad intelligence tend to succeed more.
Gunner3210 1 year ago
These types of incredible abilities are probably normal to some alien species out there.
ForwardIntent 1 year ago
0.1340206 camera moves up and sees his head peering over the calculator.. lmfao
CHRISTMASBASTARD 1 year ago
The less I think about a sum the better it comes to me... I can only imagine that if a disability stopped me from thinking too hard then it would force me to indulge on that technique for every sum.
CHRISTMASBASTARD 1 year ago
oh my gawddd,,, i really hate math! he should be my teacher or something...
misao1414 1 year ago
Tremendous demonstration of unique intellectual prowess, mixed most agreeably with a gentle spirit.
Interesting observing how instinctive it is for some to attempt to jockey themselves past others, preferring criticism to affirmation. Eli Siegel observed that (insecure) people tend to make more and more of themselves by making less and less of the world around them. I say criticism is far too small a fig leaf with which to conceal one's own sense of inadequacy...
MyNazarene 1 year ago
apparently this savant syndrome is actually disability because to get the answer to these sums your brain requires you not to think to much about it and think simply and clearly but maybe if our brains where higher functional than a savants then we over load ourselves with too much information to make sense of it.
CHRISTMASBASTARD 1 year ago
@CHRISTMASBASTARD Einsteins math wasn't the best to be honest. But thats beside the point...that computer you are using could do the mental arithmetic he done thousands of times faster... but that does not make your computer intelligent...just fast at arithmetic.
So my guess is if you asked him what value in MeV is given off in a single proton-proton chain reaction cycle he'd know how to calculate the answer but not without knowing what to do to calculate it.
Unrealistix 5 months ago
NOT EVEN EINSTEIN OR HAWKING CAN DO THIS.... VERY IMPRESSIVE
SHYBONER 1 year ago
Daniel is smart enough to memorize a billion diget number if he put his mind to it
faithie70 1 year ago
this means all of us has the capacity to do this w/ our own minds. very interesting!
fiendin281 1 year ago
wow.. i'm dumbstruck
genniboo 1 year ago
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dbalieiro 1 year ago
I don't know if I really believe this...
tim3058 1 year ago
WHAT A NERD, I BET HE CAN'T EVEN THROW A FOOTBALL
angelV1 1 year ago
Respect to this man. To the motha fuckas hating, calling people retarded, eat a dick.
TraeThaTruth 1 year ago
rain man!
aznlilhero 1 year ago
i remember reading somewhere that we as humans, can only consciously use ~6% of our maximum brain power. Perhaps he was able to tap into that pool of greater brain efficiency, and thus be able to demonstrate such phenomenal powers.
asiangamer64 1 year ago
@asiangamer64 Believe it or not the 5-10% thing is a common misconception. We use pretty much our entire brain (though not all at once at all times). The synapses which don't get used will be 'pruned' or disconnected, which increases efficiency- kinda like uninstalling programs/games you don't use any more on a computer. However, you're not far off the mark- as savant syndrome is likely due to differently sized/configured brain structures/ways the neurons are connected, leading to 'genius'!
ButtSchex 1 year ago 24
@ButtSchex where did you here about this? it sounds interesting, do you know of any good web links that i can have a read regarding this matter? thank you :)
dtv4848 1 year ago
@ButtSchex Firstly LOL at your name. Ok well my idea is considering Savantism usually comes with some form of mental illness which makes them lack social abilities, I believe savants simply posess the ability to focus more of their brain power towards a another task. E.g if you were running many games at the same time on a computer then the Fps would be low however if you were to run less games and save some memory, then you would see a significant increase in fps in the remaining open game.
UnFathomableVideos 1 year ago
@ButtSchex that was an extremely smart answer for someone with a name like that.
travisgann13 1 year ago
@asiangamer64 If that were true, you would be willing to have me remove 94% of yours, or even just 10%. The reason tiny traumas (stroke) invariably have after effects is that all of it is used, and much at once. As mentioned, that which is not used is recycled.
froggykodok 1 year ago
@asiangamer64 That's just bullcrap... its a meme that seems to move through the population... but since you can clearly see on a cart scan you are using 100% of your brain 100% of the time even when sleeping then it should be obvious its total nonsense.
Its not what percentage of your brain you are using that gives one higher or lower brain function...its how those bits interact that distinguishes those traits
Lots of these ideas are not only incorrect, but a seconds logic tells you so!
MumblingMickey 5 months ago
Fucking amazing!
ahsure 1 year ago
This guy is the answer... all he has to do is learn the ancient sumarian language and then tell us what the messages mean from the crop circles left by the UFO's.
Token528 1 year ago
@Token528 Yeah that should definitely be his top priority.
FAIL.
Lavezzi 1 year ago
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This guy is the answer... all he has to do is learn the ancient sumarian language and then tell us what the messages mean from the crop circles left by the UFO's.
Token528 1 year ago
Tammet cannot calculate. He only has a good memory . He never competes in World Mental Calculation Championships or other calculating competitions like Rudiger Gamm. Seems like an autistic with just a very high funtioning memory, no other genious skills..
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel: Agreed. Great memorizing ability and genius are different. It's like harddisk/RAM and processor, you can't combine them.
VideoUploaderTester 1 year ago
@Neueregel You spell "genius" with an "o", are you really in a position to comment?
astarin 1 year ago
@astarin Yes. I am competing to the Mental Calculation World Cup in 2 weeks. Plus I'm not a native English speaker, hence my spelling mistake. I do some, occasionally. Give foreigners a break!!
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel How could he memorise every single calculation?
Lavezzi 1 year ago
@Lavezzi it's not difficult memorising 96 digits. World champ Dr Gunten Karsten can memorise more than 2000 digits for a sustained time
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel then tell me how he was able memorize pi to the 22,514 digit in only a couple of months. like to see you try that if its so easy!
84landy 1 year ago
@84landy I don't have a very good memory but I participated in Mental Calculation World Cup last month. Memory tasks are an entirely different sport.
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel You need to learn what you're talking about before you talk. Seriously, I'd like to see you do half the things he can do. Further, if universities like Cambridge and Oxford (as he claims) are studying him with active interest, I'm sure he's far above competing in these "mental" competitions. And, also, it would be kind of unfair to put him in one because, without a doubt, he would destroy anyone else in it blindfolded and with both hands tied behind his back.
gobipill 1 year ago
@gobipill you cannot make arguments with mere assumptions. The fact is that he DOES NOT compete in international calculation competitions, probably because he is scared to lose. (same thing that happened to Rudiger Gamm) As soon as he enters and wins any, then yes i'll consider him a genius !! But now why?? Because of a TV programme show? Don't believe the shows, He's over-hyped IMO
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel "As soon as he enters and wins, you'll consider him a genius"? Neither he, nor I, nor anyone else who cares needs you to validate his intelligence. He's quite famous for his abilities and, whether he is or isn't a savant is irrelevant; he is considered to be one and you, a single person, not believing him is a nonissue. If you don't believe in savants, that's great, but other people, in fact, most people do (just read the other comments and you'll see) and that's all that matters.
gobipill 1 year ago
@gobipill Look, I don't say he is not a savant. He is an autistic with good intelligence but not calculating genius. He only memorises stuff and numbers sequences and is over-hyped and famous because he gets along well with the TV show producers.I can name you 50 faster 'mental' calculators in the world better than him, but don't want more publicity. Being on TV only makes you the most outspoken public figure, not the best. Winning in ACTUAL international competitions is what makes you THE BEST
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel one thing that you miss is that instead of "becoming the best" in some contest, his interest regards higher and nobler purposes than some prize won at international competitions. He dedicates his life for the scientific community for all of us, that includes me and you. So please stop dropping gealous comments because you'll only make a fool of yourself.
DuMyth 1 year ago
@DuMyth 'He dedicates his life?' come on man!! They just chose him for an EEG/ fMRI experiment. He is not even a scientist himself. In fact i would classify him as pseudo-scientist, because of his tendency to promote all this synesthesia mumbo jumbo
Neueregel 1 year ago
@Neueregel He is actually in the top ten ranking world wide for reciting digits of PI in 6th place.
CHRISTMASBASTARD 1 year ago
This man is amazing. He was able to memorize 22,514 digits of pi. He can speak a new language within a week. Him and Neil make a great couple. :D
kev06073 1 year ago
He has the stained lips of a Mentat. Clearly it's the juice of safu
HEY THAT'S MY ART MUSEUM!!! Woot Milwaukee!
MultiUniv3rsal 1 year ago
amazing.
strongmanzack 1 year ago
Wow. that gave me goose bumps, especialy the part where he beat a computer lol. A true genius. God bless you.
BritishAndProudMoFoe 1 year ago
wonder if savants of the past account for unexplainable tech for it's time?
.....maybe that's how pyramids, stonehenge, etc. got produced.....that thought is just as plausible as alien intervention.
MICKEYSMONKEY 1 year ago
holy crap does that number ever terminate?
mypalsatan 1 year ago
@mypalsatan no its an irrational number
goatsrock03 1 year ago
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even rainman could count cards and he was a retard.
siege60 2 years ago
look up KIM PEEK.... the reason rain man was made
dlb86at 1 year ago
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artisart 2 years ago 33
@artisart What are you trying to say man??
mraccident 1 year ago
@artisart He had epelepsy. He got brain-surgery and after that he was able to do huge calculations. So I wouldn't call it evolution. There are people who can do this without needing surgery but most of them are autistic and can't even shave themselves or dress. there's a documentery of this guy of about an hour.
Also i favorited a vid about kim peek. (for if you find this interesting :P)
thepianoaddict 1 year ago
makes me think how could he practically use it..there're calculators already, of course.. maybe, he could become a great translator
bluetail4u 2 years ago
what could we do if we could use 100% of our brains? ^^
Bauerheinz2004 2 years ago 4
we would die...
majestix666 2 years ago
@Bauerheinz2004 we do use 100% of our brain just not at the same time
pluto010 2 years ago
Be able to remember anything, calculate anything - simply do almost everything in our mind.
TheWoWologist 2 years ago
he needs just 1 week to learn a new language!!!! a difficult one!
stuffyfreerunner 2 years ago
this kid is smart. IQ is not determined by an ability to study math. Yet if we all study a brand new type of mathematics together, then if after a like meter of time we all compare our differences we can determine a measurable intelligence. Just suppose this person has access to a way to slow down aging. You can not be so sure based on this video. Even more striking is a scene of a computer, a voice, and nothing visually linking them to scientific measure. How easy it is to be better here.
ihavestage4coolness 2 years ago
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this dude is wicked smart and talented but he's no savant. If he was the answers would come instantaniously and not after some thought. He obviously practices these mental exercises constantly the same way a master pianist plays for 8 hours a day. And we wouldn't label every concert piano player a savant. It's a rare talent for sure- and he is probably on the genius level- but don't compare him to Rain Man because that's an entirely different level of cognitive function.
zojanyo 2 years ago
@zojanyo no his a savant, watched him in a diff doc
kieran360 2 years ago
well kim said to him "one day youll be as great as i am" x)
of course rain man as you call him is very different
but he is a savant
just a different one
stuffyfreerunner 2 years ago
does he have autism?
stevo0195 2 years ago
@stevo0195 yes AS
pietsnotter 2 years ago
just use a mathematical series and you can calculate any long string of numbers including the trig functions.
FUCKYOURMOMINTHEASS2 2 years ago
uh oh, what time has he gotta get to waffner?
cutterschoicenotmine 2 years ago
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haha i did 13/97 to the same decimal place as the calculator. ive been able to do these calculations since third grade and it really does freak people out.
harorider96 2 years ago
Our brain is a magnitude more advanced than apes. So there will be people which have abilities a magnitude higher than the avarage. The size of the brain has to be taken into account. If someone has an extraordinary ability then some abilities must give. The other thing is our visual cortex is much bigger and more suffisticated than other part. we take for granted what we do visually. Some brains cross-wire and SEE numbers using this area and therefore can do amazing things such as this.
happylittlemonk 2 years ago
13/97 jesus i dont even know how to solve that with paper and pencil
BranVan10k 2 years ago 44
Try long division with 13 and a bunch of 0's after it and move the decimal place at the end lol
otkmaster 2 years ago
You're a fucking retard.
SteedGorakson 2 years ago
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satchdidje83 2 years ago
To SteedGorakson:
"What a useless comment! Haters like you just make me feel sick!"
satchdidje83 2 years ago
@BranVan10k well you can do it like this on paper: 13.0 / 97 -> 97 fits 1 time into 130 so 0.1 then 130-97 = 33 and so on and so on i guess
asphixa 1 year ago
@BranVan10k In fact 13/97 is rather easy once you memorise the '96 repeating digits' pattern. Tammet obviously memorised that pattern before the show. However, in World Cup last month, a surprise task was to calculate a random denominator& subsequently, calculate mentally the division 3082 / 113 with as many decimal digits accurate as possible, in just 10 mins! The winner found 'only' 37 decimals, i was stubborn enough to get away with 21 decimal digits.So, Random Denominator=more fun, less hoax
Neueregel 1 year ago
@BranVan10k i cant solve that with calculator :/
Jop3lius 11 months ago
@BranVan10k that's cause you're an idiot.
yesturtle 10 months ago
I think it's cool that he's visually multiplying them! But honestly (and I'm not joking and no I'm not showing off) it's not that hard to multiply/ divide large numbers. You just have to know how to do it right and practice.
RobertHannah89 2 years ago
People who think these things are fake don't know much about the human mind and what it's capable of.
You don't have to to have autism OR Asperger's to be a savant. Kim Peek didn't have either (the person Rain Man was based on).
killawofe 2 years ago 3
really ammazing, god gifted brain.keep it up.i really want to know more n more .everything aboth childhood n alll.intreasting.
krupa1234ful 2 years ago
Wow
MyDearKyoKun 2 years ago
He is actually NOT Calculating, rather he is VISUALIZING the numbers and the final result.... Extraordinary...
AsiF5566 2 years ago 5
Interesting that he stated he could give the answer to 100 places, when in fact the decimal recurs with a period of 97. So he could give the exact answer. Did he really not know this?
nfaifa 2 years ago
He said, 'A hundred, nearly a hundred.'
mtr11119 2 years ago
The precise wording clarifies it. To know 97 places is to know all of them, and I think he was aware of this.
nfaifa 2 years ago
i don't think he was being specific about this calculation. it sounded to me as though it was a general statement about his accuracy.
ethelwine7 2 years ago
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FAKE!!!!
ASTiGBA 2 years ago
it is not fake find the rest of this sires and watch it
there is this boy who can draw amazingly fast in this sires and that can not be faked.
laputahayom 2 years ago
Daniel Tammet you have a gift thanks for sharing it with all of us!
EssiacHempLaetrile 2 years ago
congrats Daniel, JC
jsantoyoc 2 years ago
I wish I were a savant as well. All I've got is impairment LOL
freetothinkify 2 years ago 3
Autism spectrum disorders are diagnosed when there is an evident impairment. In the case of Daniel Tammet, he says he has difficulties with recognising emotions, faces, social cues and the like. He is lucky in that he seems to have adapted very well into society. Autistic savants usually have detailed knowledge in a narrow field.
Einstein had no such impairments. He was notoriously lively, social, playful and larger than life - the stereotypical mad scientist and the complete opposite of autism.
PrettyNeckslashes 2 years ago
What is that thing at 2:40?!? XD
DeepeeMe 2 years ago 2
incredible
ExtremeSubber 2 years ago
WOW
peppermint23 2 years ago
Even if the doctor's found out how Daniel is doing this.... They would never reviel it to the public if it could be done in surgery easy, witch make's me sad... BUT we can all atleast learn cant we? I mean if Daniel Tammet can do Pie up to 25 thousand numbers.... why do you think we could not be able to atleast mamorize 800 of them? this has been done at my school, and she is not a savant.
SkillerVorteX 2 years ago 3
to SkillerVorteX:
"Though it is even more rare than the savant condition itself, some savants have no apparent abnormalities other than their unique abilities. This does not mean that these abilities weren't triggered by a brain injury of some sort but does temper the theory that all savants are disabled and that some sort of trade-off is required."
wikipedia
chevinzomg 2 years ago
Your spelling is atrocious.
danw087 2 years ago
watch Crazy 8s. It's a horrible movie, but it shows them creating them. I'm sure it could be done, even with today's technology.
freetothinkify 2 years ago
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the first multiply was easy, and he wrote with his hand, alot can do that..
But the second was unbelievable!
StefanHRasmussen 2 years ago
Wow.... SMART!
firen1z 2 years ago
less than 50 worldwide? incredible
shino00666 2 years ago
beautiful!
19fas88 2 years ago 3
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He sucks compared to the french man that can find the 27 root of a 100 digit number or something.
Ickylevel 2 years ago