BBC and Sky News and all other media love this shit they make propaganda up I believe Jesus never went too Kashmir because it does not tell us this in the BIBLE. All pure propaganda too lead people far from the truth.
This is no Gov. BS. This is no Illuminati BS. This is no coincidence BS.
This is the TRUTH about Islam.
Jesus (as) was not crucified on the cross NOR raised up toward Allah. Jesus (as) was brought down from the cross with aid of his fellow family members and was cured by a doctor in a nearby cave. Then Jesus (as) dressed up as a local and traveled away from this place or else the Romans would capture him again.
He died of old age and his tomb is here, in Kashmir, India.
According to Billy Meier Jmmas nuel alias Jesus died at the age of 115 and his brother Jakobus died in this town called Srinagar at the age of 93. According to our calender Jesus (Jmmanuel died in the year 111). There are artifacts of hiscruzifiction under the GIZEH pyramids.JESUS hieß seinerzeit NIE JESUS sonder Jmmanuel. er überlebte die Kreuzigung und ging nach Ägypten mit seiner Mutter und seinem Bruder, der alles schriftlich festhielt
@kahloon13 , I like what you are saying true words of peace and wisdom is something that we can wish for mankind , but from the looks of things they are too ignorant and righteous to accept the facts or beliefs of ANY outsiders. christians being the most stubborn. I myself am investigating truth everyday.
There is soo much proof that Jesus did migrate to Kashmir, India. The Bible states soo many things, such as that Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days & nights & that so shall the Son of man, be in the belly of the earth. Both were not dead, they came out alive. They were in a state of swoon or coma. But Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Sufism, & many other groups comfirm that Jesus did go to India
@muzammilmian03 they are so secret and they are so "fictional plan project" even if u believe it, people think u r crazy. We can't prove it but we can SEE it. They have the 3 order: Green Order, Yellow, and White. Order white barely identified by the researchers. It is more due to his movement is very secret, and they concentrated on political missions. Green and Yellow of the order being place more emphasis on the worship of devil & satan. Peace to all believers.
@yudiweb Alright! that color-coded groups might be those 'illuminati or freemason' but we Ahmadis are not part of those fantasies. Ahmadiyya is all over the world and we hide no secrets. We are not on some political mission but rather to unite all religions (yes, religions, not politics). The Promised Messiah name Ahmed came and his mission, by the decree of God is to bring all religions under one banner of religions - which is Islam.
down to earth all come before the arms of the roots of flowers trees back to grass roots not to end but to ascend with the cent of flower's trees to heaven not dust to dust ash to ash never to return from hell o hell
We are all going to die and face God. If you have no clue about what religion is right or what is the correct point of view then how can u judge the truth? Please read!
its a crap.We muslims believe tht Jesus peace be upon him was raised to heaven from the Holy land.He wasnt crucified and is alive and with come down at end times to restore peace and then die like all human beings.
He was messenger of ALLAH send to children of Isreal.
jews believe that elijah (Harzrat Illyas A.S.) would come before coming of Messiah. When Jesus (Harzat Issah A.S.) said that Hazrat Yahya A.S. is the elijah who has to came. Jews disagreed and didn't believe him as their messiah. The so called muslims has also agreed with Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (A.S.) as their messiah. jews and the so called muslims are of the same nature. messiah has come but the so callled muslims don't believe.
when the jesuse christ ,one's who was hiting him with stick and stoned's he was nealing down to pick up the flower from the ground and he said namar<<<< don't kill me or don't hit me. this is how eye know quran came from jesuse christ so hazrath muhamad made all neal down in namaz teaching about ellah ha ill al lah.
wot is preventing the archeologists frm opening the grave n gettin a dna test done on the corpse inside ??.. it will clear the doubts once n for all....
if they cud open the graves and mummies in egypt, then why not open this one...
I am not here to defame or offend any belief or religion but rather I just want to post my own opinion which is well proved from Quran from bible and from historical evidence. And that is Jesus(as) was survived from cruxifiction and died after living a long life. and the dogma of living Jesus was developed by romans e.g. Saint Paul and it is not even supported by Bible Itself.
@monumonu2007: I shared some videos above I hope you will see them, let me know if what is your religion Muslim or Christianity I ll prove accordingly but before that what the videos i shared above
jesuse>>>hazrath yusa asuse aliahill salaam din did not have a father. if he said my father and eye are one like the tear's from one eye is the same from the other eye to become one like the tear stream like a river to the mouth of the ocean. yes he did say he has the right to say his father is god like every where there is a rasul lulla
well if u think about it.....he was after all a criminal in the eyes of the Romans so if he did survive the crucifiction he would naturally be sent away far from Roman influence to a place that was at the crossroads of Asia....and would have had the best selection of cuisine....biriyanis, naan and chicken tikkas, kebabs, Turkish food, Persian food, even probably sumptuous Chinese and Tibetan takeaway.....nice climate ....an excellent retirement place to be spiritual as well.
A fabrication started by many to Semitize Aryan Indian. One of the Prime Players in this fraud drama was the Jewish gentleman Nicoli Notovitch. Now one Suzaane Olson is pushing this fake story. Also the dillusionary Fida Hassnain is being used by Semitic groups to try to Semitize aryan India. The BBC News which surely has credibility unravelled this fraud. Read- Tourists flock to 'Jesus's tomb' in Kashmir
Belief is blind. But this "Jesus in Kashmir' myth was created by a fraud called Notovich and it was taken up by Ahmadiyyas. Max Muller himself made an investigation in this matter and proved Notovich a fraud. Read Dr. G.M. Sufi's 'History of Kashmir'.
Actually, the man Yus Asaf buried at Rozabal is not Jesus. He was a 15th Century Egyptian diplomat who came to Kashmir and died there. He was an ambassador from Egyptian Sultan to the court of Zain-ul-Abidin, the then ruler of Kashmir.
Actually, the man Yus Asaf buried at Rozabal is not Jesus. He was a 15th Century Egyptian diplomat who came to Kashmir and died there. He was an ambassador from Egyptian Sultan to the court of Zain-ul-Abidin, the then ruler of Kashmir.
This is true. This is Jesus (Isa) (peace be upon him). The Quran says that Jesus survived the cruxifcition. And this proved that Islam Ahmadiyya (the only one sect in Islam to prove this from the Quran & the Hadith) is the right path. The second coming of Christ have also been. the prophecy was that he would "break the cross". And he has. He proved this theory over 100 years ago, he proved that Jesus(as) survived and went in search of the lost tribes. Intrested? check out Islam Ahmadiyya.
This tomb is the best proof of the existence of the historical Jesus. If someday this tomb is open to the research of scientists it would be a great opportunity to prove that Jesus was a man like other men and not God. It would be the breaking of the cross in a metaphorical sense.
only the qaadyanis believe jesus is buried in kashmir, they dont believe in the prophetic teaching that isa aleyhiselam will return alongside imam mahdi during the end of times.
ustad... permitame felicitarle por sembrar una duda razonable despues de observar este y otros documentos, tiene ud mucho merito después de establecer el hecho de que sea o no sea el sepulcro del Justo mas grande que ha pisado la tierra y que después de efectuar su consagración en tierra de Judea siguiera su devenir histórico por toda Asia menor sus huellas se pueden observar a través del tiempo.
how is it that you dont want to say the true name what the roman jews call jesuse his true name is was yusa asuse aliahill salaam din and he was a mossa a mosslim he said ya allah eye am alone have no mother or father ya allah eye have no one but ya allah. the fake mosslim who say easa read the bible that was changed from the east to the west to spin trade stock's theaf's , the snake's jews his story's tail's leave to rule other promised land's to amuse and abuse human's and mosslim's
@sandeepmadhura punjabi is one of the 12 tribe's of jew's like the hindjew's. baba ji, lala ji, sab ji, saiaba ji, and asuse ji you read from the wrong side. he was not a roman jew or a hindjew or a pun jew bi
@hurricane223 this is no politics.....it is true.....its proof....if you interested you need to visit the places in order to convince your self....if you are willing let me know i will give you list of places....
@hurricane223 you are right .. it was a muslim "scholar" named mirza ho claimed first in 19th century that jesus came kashmir .. he was from india .. and he said that under british rule ... he also claimed to be jesus once .. but failed .. he was declared as non muslim and non christian no religion had a place for him at last ...
@hurricane223 its not tat impossible to move frm israel to kashmir.... u can take the sea or the land... during those days people did move cross borders n there hav bn evidence...
@hurricane223 True Muslims believe that Jesus did not die on the cross. We believe he was put down on the cross and into a cave. There he was healed and fed by a doctor and then dressed up as a farmer and moved to India.
eye will never walk on this earth alone there is ear to ear eye to eye tear fall's not alone anther fall's from the other eye to become one near the nose and lip's as one fall's on gul's eye sence tast my my love where is my kiss . the roman jews missed my toe's those who came loved with arm's held the hand of light.
@GamingHell ha ha ha ha...........what an inmature brat......now you must be 20+++ is it....put you hands in your trowser and touch your own balls.... ha ha ha...then say
Mansoor1981....when people have nothing to comment...people like you say funniest prank ever....these kind of jokes are good for you man....post something wisely...
jesus was sent to the israelites only ...he was not sent for no other people or tribe...regardless of what christians teach. it even says that in the bible gospels
@bazzymushpea123....what eveidence you have to prove that jesus died in jerusalem. Only your christian belief? man belief and reality is two different things. Go on facts......What bible say about moher mary? she also died in jerusalem? no news right....
nuwanwijesinghe it is the christian belief going by the writings of his followers at that time!! if you have eveidence that says he did not where is it..i would like to see it too!!!
This is tomb of a local muslim saint in Kashmir, not Jesus. Muslims believe Jesus was taken to heaven from the Holy land. Only the Ahmadis are believing this but not the mainstream Kashmiri muslims.
Sorry, but just to clarify, I've been to Kashmir twice, and a fair amount of Kashmiris (my Kashmiri friends say about half) believe that this is Jesus in the tomb. I've run into quite a few Kashmiris who believe this. Honestly, I'd be a bit surprised if it were actually half, but it is a fair amount, and many of these people are not Ahmadis.
@paulagloria It was really peaceful there, definitely. It doesn't sound like it's as peaceful there now. In fact, tourists can no longer go inside, as it has been barred now (4/2010), according to many news sources.
@paulagloria It was really peaceful there, definitely. It doesn't sound like it's as peaceful there now. In fact, tourists can no longer go inside, as it has been barred now (4/2010), according to many news sources.
yes they are cus the quran say jesus was risen alive to say he died and is burried donest go towards the qraun which says jesus isnt dead and will did in his 2nd coming next to the nabi grave in medina the holy prophet left a space to be burried next to him simple fact
yes they are cus the quran say jesus was risen alive to say he died and is burried donest go towards the qraun which says jesus isnt dead and will die in his 2nd coming next and is going to get buried next to nabi paqk muahmmed grave in medina ,the holy prophet left a space to be burried next to him simple fact , so ahnmedis dnt say ur ahmad was the one in the bibile when nabi paqh said he was the one lmooo
@paddy6062 i have evidence with me because i personely visited a place in Tebet where jesus stayed and learn...also if you really interested i can prove this also....come to sri lanka if you can i have all the evidence....
I am a christian but sad to say bible does not contain correct information. bible does not reflect on who is jesus christ... their is no information when its come to certain age limit....why... can somebody answer.....
what proof you have to say jesus died in jeruselam?. Nothing right..... you belive what bible say..... what proof you have in order to say bible contain correct information?.
@nuwanwijesinghe Just take the Moral meaning - Love thy Enemy- JESUS & leave all the confusions BEHIND! NOTHING IS ABOVE LOVE N HUMANITY.IF U CAN'T LOVE VISIBLE CREATURES INCLUDING ANIMALS WHICH IS HAVING LIFE THEN HOW CAN U LOVE INVISIBLE GOD - MOTHER TERESA
@wingully think rational before posting. whatif i say that it is muslims who ensalve woman by forcing them to wear burkha and promoting polygamy? remember when you point a finger towards others three fingers point back at you. hindus are far more tolerant towards other religions than muslims are. its a fact. face it. stop hating hindus
no one knows much about it..but i have been here, the place gives lot of peace..its a very old tomb with a 9 feet grave and a cross..i cant say what it is..but Jesus is called Issa in india..
a lot came from far place's to the mountain's the high point all other race was made slave by the kuffars of babeylan hindus abused all female's from other race from far so there female's pussy could trap others rule lulla of other land's.
the hindu's krissna kuffars killed female's in india as to slave other female's in india 4000 years ago, befoe they killed them they abused them, this is how you get the tempel's of hindus stone sex face it the truth.
the real name is this yusa assuse aliahill salaam din of the holly ghost from the high point in ever rest in salaam in the high point of the mountain's of islam
A quei tempi molti portavano il nome uguale o simile a quello di Gesù. Gesù di Nazaret è morto in croce e risorto! Non credo in suoi (probabili?)spostamenti così lontani, credo solo che Gesù è redentore di tutti anche musulmani, indiani d'America, buddisti, ebrei e chiunque voglia la sua novità purché gli creda, lo ami e lo imiti
No it isn't the pure proof I'm afraid. If Jesus did not rise from the dead physically, then the location of his tomb is in Jerusalem which was found. No resurrection theories would have even come about if Christ had not died that day in Jerusalem. If people believe that this is the tomb of Jesus then I can just make a tomb in my backyard, chuck a body inside and say this is the tomb of the real Jesus because he came to England and preached, even though I have no evidence.
Well it is obviously in Jerusalem, the Christian belief is that the church of the holy sepulchre is where the the tomb was. There are a few other sites in Jerusalem which also lay claim to this. Jesus was no doubt originally buried in Jerusalem though, possibly his ossuray was moved back to Nazareth if the family tomb was there, but who knows. Definately isn't this one though.
I would like to focus you attention on the fact that according to Biblical history, the place where Jesus was crucified was known as "Place of the Skull"...I am sure our opponents agree that SriNager (Siri-Skull Naga=Place) was not a name that Mirza Sahib(as) gave to the place where Jesus is buried.
I've watched all of these documentaries, Jesus in Kashmir and all these other stories- they are all just as stupid as the stories which state Yeshua came to Glastonbury England. There is no evidence whatsoever, it is simply- Jesus may have gone here or there, there could be a possibility of it happening e.t.c. Speaking from a historians point of view- its ludicrous, we have accounts of His life so close to after His death- I suppose we are not to trust primary sources anymore?
Well, they are no more stupid than the pathetic claims made by illiterates in _Nicea in 325. In fact,basically every other explanation is more logical than the cross death and the rapture. But, hey, all Abrahamitic religions have proved to be dellusional death cults; intolerable with no grasp of reality wehatsoever, created by a bunch of ignorant patriarchs claiming to represent "God"...
Jesus in Kashmir? I have problem with that. It makes sense really. The bible does not.
Tomb of Thomas (the doubting follower ... sold into slavery to be released in India?)
Thomas seems likely - also spoke Jesus words like a human predictive text editor - pretended to be Jesus "twin" .."Tell me Thomas you who call yourself my twin, what am I going to say now?" As is they both shared one consanguinal spirit of the two of them.
It obviously is not Christians who filmed it, because a Christian wouldn't believe that Christ went elsewhere or that He was buried. Just because they are English it doesn't mean they are Christians. Peace.
Arr see the problem with that claim is it is context dependent- it is related only to what you have seen and experienced in your own culture. This is not neccessarily the case with entire Christianity- I myself have gone back to being an atheist twice but have always returned, every day I challenge the bible and what it says- I debate with fellow Christians on topics which I have problems with until I find an answer. I look at my faith like this, I always put it under scrutiny and criticsm...
... And I don't hold back- anything I find which I can evaluate and criticise I will do. My conclusion is seeing as my faith has still managed to withstand all of this scrunity and doubt- there must be a good reason as to why I believe it, there must be an intelligent, logical reason as to why I do. I don't go to church or listen to preachers much brother because I prefer to think for myself, and yes I have read the bible and like yourself I first thought it was ridiculous. But that was at first
The only way your "faith" withstand" any scrutiny isd because that you are brainwashed & do not tolerate anyone questioning your fairytale. that's why you are so upset. You do not toelrate any other faith than your own. Christianity have proven this thoughout time. And it's only a question of time before ALL ME desert religions must kiss their hegemony goodbye. but not before you have spilt the blood of millions of ppl in the name of your psychotic god.
May I respectfully disagree? I am not brainwashed, I grew up as a non-believer, in a non-believing family, a couple of years ago I started to read the bible and study e.t.c which is how I came to believe- nobody forced me to believe anything or told me what to believe. I am extremely tolerant of other faiths- I don't know about you but I live in England, the most multi-cultural society you can get- I love everyone no matter what they believe. And with all due respect I have never ever...
harmed anybody in the name of my beliefs. I have no intention of ever hurting a human being, especially not for my beliefs and I will not be held accountable for the horrific crimes committed by other wicked people in the name of religion. And my 'fairytale' is being questioned everywhere, everyday, I do it aswell and I'm completely fine with it- infact I think it should always be questioned and no personal faith has the right to not be criticised- I'm a big fan of Richard Dawkins for example.
of course a Muslim would say Jesus tomb is found in india and in the background you hear someone singin ''Allahhhh''
Wow you Muslims really going for it to bring Christianity down let me put the facts straight here for the nonbelievers and new Christians. nobody has ever found the bones of Christ they only found his empty tomb or a fake tomb related to him so Christians are save and Jesus did rose from the dead.
@Mrletthestartwinkle..This is not a joke. I have seen the tomb my self and to clarify all your doubts may i request you to Kindly watch the Documentary which is in 3 parts on you tube. the title is Jesus in Kashmir(BBC Documentary) Hope it will answer all your questions.
let me clarify again, when ESA (AS) will return there will be a leader/guide present already but afterhis return Esa (AS) will become the leader. Now is that clear enough for you TI?
The hadith about mehdi mentions that he will be from the Prophet's (SAW) family? The very fact that Esa (AS) is not a syed proves the hadith that a mehdi will be present before ESA (AS) arrives. It also provesthe fact that mehdi being talked about and Esa (AS) will be 2 different people. do you understand this?
WOW! I posted about three comments, even one on your page I think... Didn't you read it??? It's a Hadith that shows Jesus as will be the same person as Imam Mahdi.
So how would Jesus a.s come back as someone who is "from Prophet Muhammad S.A." ?
- first of all he was born before the Prophet, which means he isn't from his family (your interpretation of "from Prophet"
- and second, he was a prophet for the Jews, why would he come for Muslims? Why can't there be someone FROM PROPHET MUHAMMAD ?
TI you obviously can't understand english and I have typed it out for you enough times already. That is ok. I guess this is what ahmadis are taught to do.
Now shall we move on to something else about your mirza. WHo is the Dajjal accoridng to your mirza and who ar ethe yajooj majooj?
Nice excuse to change the topic once again, and btw I already answered that question in a comment before. Why don't you try looking for it?
Let me break it down for you again... If Prophet Muhammad (SA) said that Imam Mahdi and Jesus WILL BE THE SAME PERSON, and if he ALSO SAID THAT the Imam Mahdi "Will be from him", try to remember a few seconds ago you read that Imam Mahdi -IS JESUS-.. Now link those two Hadiths together, CAN JESUS BE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SA)???
If you want to lie abou thadith sthen hey by all means do so. You know of which hadith sI am talkign about that talk about MEhdi being from Prophet (SAW)' sfamily? Since Esa (AS) IS NOT from Prophet's family so it is proven that at the time of Esa (AS) arrival there will be a guide/leader present amongst muslims and after hi sreturn Esa (AS) will become that leader thus retaining the title of Messiah and Mehdi.
So you think I'm lying when I show you the words of the Prophet(SA)? I think there's more room for a lie in a prediction than a Hadith, so don't blame the words of the Holy Prophet (S.A), after all, who DO you follow? The Holy Prophet (SA)? Or the terrible people he said would be the mullahs? You have been so brainwashed, that you openly deny the hadiths of the one you claim to follow
I never said Jesus was a syed. Show me where I said that? Allah ka shukat hai I am mor eknowledgeable then the average brain washed ahmadi and I know that Esa (AS) was born before Prophet (SAW). Now, tell me if the following equation is incorrect.
mirza = mehdi = messiah = prophet = prophet Muhammad (SAW) = lord krishna .......
Now if you have read your mirza's book syouw ill know that the above equation is correct.
I fail to understand how the dajjal could have been kille dby your mirza when He is still very much alive and sheeding theblood of muslims. Rememebr the hadiths sadi that dajjal will be killed by the messiah not defeated.
Killed by Messiah? First you tell me what you define as dajjal... Sometimes you say it is Mirza himself (God forbid). Make up your mind please. You people repeatedly ask how Mirza (AS) was similar to Jesus (AS). You know it took about 300 years for Jesus to be accepted. However we don't believe in illogical magic, like you expect. We know Islam is a religion of nature, and everything takes time. Who sheds the blood of Muslims? If you are refering to Americans, then let me tell you that
that we are very much respected and protected. We have a good name, and our slogan is Love for All Hatred for None. We dont fight Jihad by sword, we fight by pen and tongue. Allah protects us and that is why nobody attacks us (except other Muslims who are like Jews - according to Muhammad).... So who attacks you people? You yourselves incite all this mess, then you complain and take out your anger by attempting to wipe out us - the only true Muslims left.
You talk trash about us and the Messiah (AS), you kill us, you deny us, then you expect him to save you from others, when in reality this is all due to YOUR OWN actions. You mess up by your selves, then you say... "Mirza was a liar! look, he didnt save us from our bloodshed". First accept the Truth, then i promise Allah will save you from Dajjal.
Quran does not say that Esa (AS) died. Please do not associate lies with the Qurab. I have read enough trranslations to know the meaning of 3.55
Naturally your mirza had to lie about everything othereiwise who woudl have accepted him?
Abu Hurayra, Radi-Allahu anhu, narrates that Rasulullah said, 'By him in whose hand my soul is, surely the son of Mary will come down among you as a just ruler.
Not a lie at all, who is Jesus, Son of Mary (AS)? He is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian(AS). The Promised Messiah and Mahdi.
Islam is a religion of nature. when do you see people floating down from the sky? Keep waiting for your Jesus (AS), its been over two thousand years and you still havent accepted anyone. The time your people predicted that he will come has passed over 100 years ago. That time was exactly when he came, but you still cant open your eyes.
So who decides, YOU? YOU HAVE DECLARED THAT QURAN DOESNT SAY JESUS DIED? Well tell me, It says that Allah brought Jesus close to him. The controversial word is Rafa. We say Rafa means spiritually exalt. You people say it means to physically move. When you do namaaz in between two sajdas you say wa-RAFA-nee. When you translate that, you say it means spiritually exalt. So now what? one word has two different meanings?
read 17:93 (or 94 depending on which Quran)... it says people asked
asked Prophet Muhammad (SAW) to ascend to heaven.......... "'Or thou have a house of gold or thou ascend up into heaven; and we will not believe in thy ascension until thou send down to us a book that we can read.' Say, 'Holy is my Lord! I am not but a man sent as a Messenger.'"
If Prophet (SAW) coudnt ascend, then how could Jesus (AS)? If anyone deserves to be alive then it should be the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW), right?
Why would I believe what the Bible says? Do you know how much of it is in its original form? If you do then congratulations. I suggest you start following those bits. After al they are divine revealtions. Who cares if we are told not to follow them, right?
Who did Allah call kaffir? The ones who read kalima and believe? The ones who are promoters of peace? The ones who pray to him? The ones who believe in the 5 pillars? No! Anyways look at the Jews they are still waiting for their Elijah they say"God clearly told us that Elijah himself will come down" now you and I both know that that prophecywas fulfilled by John the Baptist. Look at Mirza's (AS) life, it was so similar to the life of Jesus. I can tell u how if u ask..
Is mehdi going to be from Prophet (SAW)'s family or not?
Rasulullah said, 'The Mahdi is one of us, from among the people of my household. In one night Allah will inspire him and prepare him to carry out his task successfully.' (Ahmad)
What are Prophet (SAW)'s family called? That is right... Syeds. Now was mirza from Prophet (SAW)'s family? NO. Being a qadiani I gueess you are just going to tell me that this is just another metaphor :)
1) Through his fore-mothers, Ghulam Ahmad (AS) was a descendent from Prophet Muhammad SAW through his daughter Fatimah Zahra.
2) This Hadith proved your theory wrong. IS JESUS A SYED? NO! Its much more likely that Mirza (AS) was a syed than Jesus (AS) who by the way - incase you didnt know was born before Prophet (SAW).
3) "in one night"? If Jesus were to descend, wouldnt he already know what his purpose is?
Yar are you crazy or something? When did I say JEsus will be from Priophet (SAW)'s family? Tell me honestly have you read the hadiths which show mehdi and Esa (AS) will be 2 different people. If anythign this hadith proves that these are two different people and not one. When Esa (AS) will come there will be a mehdi present . At what point exactly will Esa (AS) then become the leader I do not know but there will be a leader present when he arrives.
Are you crazy? First you ask me to show you a Hadith which proves Mehdi and Promised Messiah are supposed to be the same person, i show you the Hadith and still you act as if i didnt? please read the Hadith i provided you...
TI, mehdi = guided one. Agreed? Esa (AS) will be the guided one but when he comes there will be a mehdi present. I can post you dozens of hadiths that prove that mehdi and Esa (AS) are 2 different people at the time of Esa (AS)'s descent. Would you read them with an open mind if I send them to you?
Read this piece of writing by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS It will definately make you see - if you can
go to alislam dot org
then on the right in the search box type "a misconception removed"
search and click the 1st link
...Spirituality and faith is like a science, you can't always expect and believe in what is apparent and on the top, you have to see deep meanings, lots of people cant do that, and that is why lots of people have been misguided, please read it; it will only take a few minutes.
typical ahmadi response when they have nothing better to say they just twist worsd around.
Where is the workonmirza's lineage. I haveneevr seen any ahmadi provide me with a link. All I have been told i sthatbecasue mirza said he is a descendant so we accept it like all other non sense mirza said. YOu have yourself that mirza might have been a syed.
You miht like to think that I have lost but the fact is that you just make yourself look silly when you defend mirza.
I am a disbeliever in Islam my friend, but I don't 'laugh' at Muslims. I have no problem with Islam aslong as it does not insist that it is the true faith.
Of course the Qur'an insists it, but I'm talking about Muslims telling me that I'm wrong and they are right and imposing their own views into others. But I'm not saying this is every Muslim, this is just the part of Islam I do have a problem with. The bible insists it is truth also- you don't believe in that but I myself don't insist your wrong.
Is the bible read in it's original language and contexts? Verses from the bible insist... as they do, but the scholars of the bible have issues with the authenticity of many parts of the bible(s) that is(are) claimed to be the bible.
If it was read as it was revealed... why would the muslims side with atheist arguments against the bible? Surely they'd agree with quran 5:82?
I suppose this would explain it to some degree: /watch?v=yfflgF_H0kY
. Prophet Muhammad said "He will be burried next to Me", and metaphorically he was...
Allah ka wasta hai aisee bakwas na likha karo..... You people cliam to have respect for the Prophet (SAW) and you mock the clearest of his words. You have made everything the Prophet (SAW) said about Esa son of Mary a metaphor. How much more can you insult the Pophet (SAW)? Not once companion of the Prophet (SAW) considered these hadiths a metaphor but your mirza did. lanat haimirza par.
This is why your people and countries are getting destroyed. You use jihad as an excuse to kill everybody and your proof is from the Quran. You see, your INTERPRETATION of the Quran is different from ours. Allah permitted the people of Muhammad to fight back as jihad once they were attacked, not "kill every kaffir" - the way you interpret it now. Allah gave the power to properly interpret the Quran to very few people. If everything was that clear, then why are there 73 sects?
BBC and Sky News and all other media love this shit they make propaganda up I believe Jesus never went too Kashmir because it does not tell us this in the BIBLE. All pure propaganda too lead people far from the truth.
NORTHERNIRISHULTRAS 1 week ago
@NORTHERNIRISHULTRAS - You may believe it is false. That's valid. However, these theories existed long before BBC and Sky News.
ustadkhanali 1 week ago
@ustadkhanali Yea ano that but they like too stair it up even more.
NORTHERNIRISHULTRAS 1 week ago
@ustadkhanali nope, not just theories, but FACTS
SPAMagent 1 day ago
@NORTHERNIRISHULTRAS ahahahahhaha lol
SPAMagent 1 day ago
This is no Gov. BS. This is no Illuminati BS. This is no coincidence BS.
This is the TRUTH about Islam.
Jesus (as) was not crucified on the cross NOR raised up toward Allah. Jesus (as) was brought down from the cross with aid of his fellow family members and was cured by a doctor in a nearby cave. Then Jesus (as) dressed up as a local and traveled away from this place or else the Romans would capture him again.
He died of old age and his tomb is here, in Kashmir, India.
Pray to Allah.
DragonxxxFire 2 weeks ago
According to Billy Meier Jmmas nuel alias Jesus died at the age of 115 and his brother Jakobus died in this town called Srinagar at the age of 93. According to our calender Jesus (Jmmanuel died in the year 111). There are artifacts of hiscruzifiction under the GIZEH pyramids.JESUS hieß seinerzeit NIE JESUS sonder Jmmanuel. er überlebte die Kreuzigung und ging nach Ägypten mit seiner Mutter und seinem Bruder, der alles schriftlich festhielt
KimLMarcum 2 months ago
@kahloon13 , I like what you are saying true words of peace and wisdom is something that we can wish for mankind , but from the looks of things they are too ignorant and righteous to accept the facts or beliefs of ANY outsiders. christians being the most stubborn. I myself am investigating truth everyday.
barranca38 2 months ago
well said by my friend dont fearislam
There is soo much proof that Jesus did migrate to Kashmir, India. The Bible states soo many things, such as that Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days & nights & that so shall the Son of man, be in the belly of the earth. Both were not dead, they came out alive. They were in a state of swoon or coma. But Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Sufism, & many other groups comfirm that Jesus did go to India
kahloon13 6 months ago
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kahloon13 6 months ago
Ahmmadiyah created by an illuminati and freemason among muslim world
yudiweb 7 months ago
@yudiweb man, WE were created by Allah to bring out the truth of Islam, that's all!
no Illuminati or Freemason involved
Besides that, prove your allegation! good luck
peace
muzammilmian03 4 months ago
@muzammilmian03 they are so secret and they are so "fictional plan project" even if u believe it, people think u r crazy. We can't prove it but we can SEE it. They have the 3 order: Green Order, Yellow, and White. Order white barely identified by the researchers. It is more due to his movement is very secret, and they concentrated on political missions. Green and Yellow of the order being place more emphasis on the worship of devil & satan. Peace to all believers.
yudiweb 4 months ago
@yudiweb Alright! that color-coded groups might be those 'illuminati or freemason' but we Ahmadis are not part of those fantasies. Ahmadiyya is all over the world and we hide no secrets. We are not on some political mission but rather to unite all religions (yes, religions, not politics). The Promised Messiah name Ahmed came and his mission, by the decree of God is to bring all religions under one banner of religions - which is Islam.
Love for All, Hatred for None
muzammilmian03 4 months ago
down to earth all come before the arms of the roots of flowers trees back to grass roots not to end but to ascend with the cent of flower's trees to heaven not dust to dust ash to ash never to return from hell o hell
esusejesuse 7 months ago
Read these books on Christianity:
alislam.org/library/books/christianity_facts_to_fiction/index.html
alislam.org/library/books/Did-Jesus-Redeem-Mankind-20080610MN.pdf
alislam.org/library/books/Jesus-in-India.pdf
We are all going to die and face God. If you have no clue about what religion is right or what is the correct point of view then how can u judge the truth? Please read!
ImamTime 7 months ago
Fraud data certainly planted by the Semites. I would see the BBC NEWS for the real story: Tourists flock to 'Jesus's tomb' in Kashmir
Wani400 7 months ago
its a crap.We muslims believe tht Jesus peace be upon him was raised to heaven from the Holy land.He wasnt crucified and is alive and with come down at end times to restore peace and then die like all human beings.
He was messenger of ALLAH send to children of Isreal.
naveedngr 8 months ago
@naveedngr Yeah... who needs irrefutable facts, when you've got faith.
OzDeist 8 months ago
kashmir has some lovely hash.
m1ck8ynel 9 months ago
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BURN IN HELL FOREVER OR BELIEVE IN JESUS
fuckmania07 9 months ago
jews believe that elijah (Harzrat Illyas A.S.) would come before coming of Messiah. When Jesus (Harzat Issah A.S.) said that Hazrat Yahya A.S. is the elijah who has to came. Jews disagreed and didn't believe him as their messiah. The so called muslims has also agreed with Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (A.S.) as their messiah. jews and the so called muslims are of the same nature. messiah has come but the so callled muslims don't believe.
NokhaizKaunpal 10 months ago
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when the jesuse christ ,one's who was hiting him with stick and stoned's he was nealing down to pick up the flower from the ground and he said namar<<<< don't kill me or don't hit me. this is how eye know quran came from jesuse christ so hazrath muhamad made all neal down in namaz teaching about ellah ha ill al lah.
yescare 10 months ago
thenoblequran (Ctrl+Enter)
thankallahalltime 11 months ago
You crazy??
Jesus was not crucified and buried, but God raised him
naseronlin 1 year ago
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fake tomb of Jesus,make by ahmadiyah qodiyani .....haa...haa antichrist
Mr0000143 1 year ago
fake tomb of Jesus,make by ahmadiyah qodiyani .....haa...haa
Mr0000143 1 year ago
Mirza & ahmadiha are dogs who saying all these shit to gain bone thrown by british.
Isa (alaisalam) still alive request you all to refer 3:55.& 3:59 in quran
jkhameed 1 year ago
wot is preventing the archeologists frm opening the grave n gettin a dna test done on the corpse inside ??.. it will clear the doubts once n for all....
if they cud open the graves and mummies in egypt, then why not open this one...
provogue1678 1 year ago
@provogue1678 Militant Islam is preventing the grave from being exhumed. It's Galileo all over again.
OzDeist 8 months ago
He rode a mule all the way to Kashmir.
Blutstrupfs 1 year ago
@Blutstrupfs lol
provogue1678 1 year ago
Biblical Ref (English):
part 1: watch?v=AQdnyzIvqIg
part 2: watch?v=hT_5mhJ7esE
BBC Documentary:
part1: watch?v=FgC0fqkBNI0
part2: watch?v=69-WRf-NI0o
part3: watch?v=qsSJ6FwdaUg
Sagricon 1 year ago
I am not here to defame or offend any belief or religion but rather I just want to post my own opinion which is well proved from Quran from bible and from historical evidence. And that is Jesus(as) was survived from cruxifiction and died after living a long life. and the dogma of living Jesus was developed by romans e.g. Saint Paul and it is not even supported by Bible Itself.
Sagricon 1 year ago
@Sagricon so ur telling us he is dead....can u prove us.
monumonu2007 1 year ago
@monumonu2007: I shared some videos above I hope you will see them, let me know if what is your religion Muslim or Christianity I ll prove accordingly but before that what the videos i shared above
Sagricon 1 year ago
jesuse>>>hazrath yusa asuse aliahill salaam din did not have a father. if he said my father and eye are one like the tear's from one eye is the same from the other eye to become one like the tear stream like a river to the mouth of the ocean. yes he did say he has the right to say his father is god like every where there is a rasul lulla
wingully 1 year ago
@wingully how sure r u
monumonu2007 1 year ago
well if u think about it.....he was after all a criminal in the eyes of the Romans so if he did survive the crucifiction he would naturally be sent away far from Roman influence to a place that was at the crossroads of Asia....and would have had the best selection of cuisine....biriyanis, naan and chicken tikkas, kebabs, Turkish food, Persian food, even probably sumptuous Chinese and Tibetan takeaway.....nice climate ....an excellent retirement place to be spiritual as well.
svariar 1 year ago
@svariar i see now why he want to have peace !!kashmir is heaven on earth
kiaganga 1 year ago
Please look on You Tube for Ed Martin, Professor Jim Deardorff, Dr. Dietmar Rothe.
Of course anybody have to see "The Silent Revolution of Truth" >look for it on YT or visit my channel. Greetings BJ ;)
questdental 1 year ago
A fabrication started by many to Semitize Aryan Indian. One of the Prime Players in this fraud drama was the Jewish gentleman Nicoli Notovitch. Now one Suzaane Olson is pushing this fake story. Also the dillusionary Fida Hassnain is being used by Semitic groups to try to Semitize aryan India. The BBC News which surely has credibility unravelled this fraud. Read- Tourists flock to 'Jesus's tomb' in Kashmir
Triptab 1 year ago
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Belief is blind. But this "Jesus in Kashmir' myth was created by a fraud called Notovich and it was taken up by Ahmadiyyas. Max Muller himself made an investigation in this matter and proved Notovich a fraud. Read Dr. G.M. Sufi's 'History of Kashmir'.
221Ranjith 1 year ago
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Actually, the man Yus Asaf buried at Rozabal is not Jesus. He was a 15th Century Egyptian diplomat who came to Kashmir and died there. He was an ambassador from Egyptian Sultan to the court of Zain-ul-Abidin, the then ruler of Kashmir.
221Ranjith 1 year ago
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221Ranjith 1 year ago
Actually, the man Yus Asaf buried at Rozabal is not Jesus. He was a 15th Century Egyptian diplomat who came to Kashmir and died there. He was an ambassador from Egyptian Sultan to the court of Zain-ul-Abidin, the then ruler of Kashmir.
221Ranjith 1 year ago
This is true. This is Jesus (Isa) (peace be upon him). The Quran says that Jesus survived the cruxifcition. And this proved that Islam Ahmadiyya (the only one sect in Islam to prove this from the Quran & the Hadith) is the right path. The second coming of Christ have also been. the prophecy was that he would "break the cross". And he has. He proved this theory over 100 years ago, he proved that Jesus(as) survived and went in search of the lost tribes. Intrested? check out Islam Ahmadiyya.
donshery 1 year ago
what a stupedity here. two thousands years ago people speak Sanskrit in Kashmir .After the Mughul Empror Babir came here then Farsi was in Kashmir.
johnjoseph9 1 year ago
lol.. im the resident of khanyar... :P
i see this tomb everyday!
dmxbanned 1 year ago
This tomb is the best proof of the existence of the historical Jesus. If someday this tomb is open to the research of scientists it would be a great opportunity to prove that Jesus was a man like other men and not God. It would be the breaking of the cross in a metaphorical sense.
Ganim85 1 year ago
only the qaadyanis believe jesus is buried in kashmir, they dont believe in the prophetic teaching that isa aleyhiselam will return alongside imam mahdi during the end of times.
ask120 1 year ago
ustad... permitame felicitarle por sembrar una duda razonable despues de observar este y otros documentos, tiene ud mucho merito después de establecer el hecho de que sea o no sea el sepulcro del Justo mas grande que ha pisado la tierra y que después de efectuar su consagración en tierra de Judea siguiera su devenir histórico por toda Asia menor sus huellas se pueden observar a través del tiempo.
RAMATYZ 1 year ago
No,this is fake!Jesus is not dead!He rose up again and is alive to day!
Hans021220 1 year ago
@Hans021220 lol
xxxwaqasxxx 1 year ago
Good Job. The pope can go to Cuba.
MrMagnaGrecia 1 year ago
na fake, when i was in kashmir, the people i asked, who where well to do kashmir's told me it wasnt worth going and it was just a tourists stunt
llandod77 1 year ago
@llandod77 Thank you for this information!I know this is fake and just a tourists stunt to get money for the mosque!
Hans021220 1 year ago
how is it that you dont want to say the true name what the roman jews call jesuse his true name is was yusa asuse aliahill salaam din and he was a mossa a mosslim he said ya allah eye am alone have no mother or father ya allah eye have no one but ya allah. the fake mosslim who say easa read the bible that was changed from the east to the west to spin trade stock's theaf's , the snake's jews his story's tail's leave to rule other promised land's to amuse and abuse human's and mosslim's
wingully 1 year ago
Open it up and see if there is some hook nose in there
aarongohn 1 year ago
Did Jesus knew Urdu? Or came here to learn it?
sandeepmadhura 1 year ago
@sandeepmadhura punjabi is one of the 12 tribe's of jew's like the hindjew's. baba ji, lala ji, sab ji, saiaba ji, and asuse ji you read from the wrong side. he was not a roman jew or a hindjew or a pun jew bi
wingully 1 year ago
how jesus migrated to kashmir? I don't believe this. This is something that is related to hidden politics between india and britain.
hurricane223 1 year ago
@hurricane223 this is no politics.....it is true.....its proof....if you interested you need to visit the places in order to convince your self....if you are willing let me know i will give you list of places....
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
@hurricane223: He could have walked.
ustadkhanali 1 year ago 12
@ustadkhanali and y.
monumonu2007 1 year ago
@ustadkhanali
Indeed he walked..But not like marathon! He stopped in many points of his journey.
Thanks for the Video.
javedmahmood 1 year ago
@hurricane223 you are right .. it was a muslim "scholar" named mirza ho claimed first in 19th century that jesus came kashmir .. he was from india .. and he said that under british rule ... he also claimed to be jesus once .. but failed .. he was declared as non muslim and non christian no religion had a place for him at last ...
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_claimed_to_be_Jesus
qurtabah2002 1 year ago
@hurricane223 its not tat impossible to move frm israel to kashmir.... u can take the sea or the land... during those days people did move cross borders n there hav bn evidence...
provogue1678 1 year ago
@hurricane223
Yes he could of easily traveled to India...
In fact Jesus' life itself was spent traveling by foot...And we hardly know all his destinations...
He lived in Egypt as a child when he escaped Herod...
evan12345a 1 year ago
@hurricane223 True Muslims believe that Jesus did not die on the cross. We believe he was put down on the cross and into a cave. There he was healed and fed by a doctor and then dressed up as a farmer and moved to India.
He died in Kashmir.
DragonxxxFire 1 year ago
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@hurricane223 study history and you will know the truth
lookingfortruth100 1 year ago
@hurricane223 He jumped into a mule...
culturacolombia 10 months ago
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eye will never walk on this earth alone there is ear to ear eye to eye tear fall's not alone anther fall's from the other eye to become one near the nose and lip's as one fall's on gul's eye sence tast my my love where is my kiss . the roman jews missed my toe's those who came loved with arm's held the hand of light.
wingully 1 year ago
you idiots fighting over where jesus died , when jesus nor god exist lol.
GamingHell 1 year ago
@GamingHell Foolish idiot like you can only say something like this....Grow up idiot......
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
i grew up
when i was 5 , please santa bring me something
when i was 10 , please tooth fairy bring me something
when i was 15 , please jesus help me
when i was 20 , holy shit none of them actually did anything.
GamingHell 1 year ago 2
@GamingHell ha ha ha ha...........what an inmature brat......now you must be 20+++ is it....put you hands in your trowser and touch your own balls.... ha ha ha...then say
* I touch my balls bring me something
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
well...Jesus Christ (As) was not God...he was just a man. (Your funny) you make me laugh.
TheFunkeeStuff 1 year ago
@GamingHell Oh, and you forgot when your dead your in hell :D
YummyTacoz909 1 year ago
hahahahah.... funniest prank ever....
Mansoor1981 1 year ago
Mansoor1981....when people have nothing to comment...people like you say funniest prank ever....these kind of jokes are good for you man....post something wisely...
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
jesus was sent to the israelites only ...he was not sent for no other people or tribe...regardless of what christians teach. it even says that in the bible gospels
hen8167 1 year ago
@bazzymushpea123....what eveidence you have to prove that jesus died in jerusalem. Only your christian belief? man belief and reality is two different things. Go on facts......What bible say about moher mary? she also died in jerusalem? no news right....
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
nuwanwijesinghe it is the christian belief going by the writings of his followers at that time!! if you have eveidence that says he did not where is it..i would like to see it too!!!
paddy6062 1 year ago
Deffy, Jesus (As) tomb...the tomb in Jerusalem was the tomb he stayed in before Migrating to India.
TheOriginalBeliever 1 year ago
any histoic refrance?
anees487 1 year ago
hm...if you Read Jesus In India (The Book) you will have all the Evidence you Need. check on Alislam web to find it online to read. (Hope it helps)
TheOriginalBeliever 1 year ago
This is tomb of a local muslim saint in Kashmir, not Jesus. Muslims believe Jesus was taken to heaven from the Holy land. Only the Ahmadis are believing this but not the mainstream Kashmiri muslims.
kazakhseven 1 year ago
Sorry, but just to clarify, I've been to Kashmir twice, and a fair amount of Kashmiris (my Kashmiri friends say about half) believe that this is Jesus in the tomb. I've run into quite a few Kashmiris who believe this. Honestly, I'd be a bit surprised if it were actually half, but it is a fair amount, and many of these people are not Ahmadis.
ustadkhanali 1 year ago
@ustadkhanali
man whoever it is the energy is great no? I spent two incredible weeks of my life in Srinigar
paulagloria 1 year ago
@paulagloria It was really peaceful there, definitely. It doesn't sound like it's as peaceful there now. In fact, tourists can no longer go inside, as it has been barred now (4/2010), according to many news sources.
ustadkhanali 1 year ago
@ustadkhanali scary and peaceful...
cfei12 8 months ago in playlist Jesus in Kashmir
@paulagloria It was really peaceful there, definitely. It doesn't sound like it's as peaceful there now. In fact, tourists can no longer go inside, as it has been barred now (4/2010), according to many news sources.
ustadkhanali 1 year ago
@ustadkhanali
yes they are cus the quran say jesus was risen alive to say he died and is burried donest go towards the qraun which says jesus isnt dead and will did in his 2nd coming next to the nabi grave in medina the holy prophet left a space to be burried next to him simple fact
007pakstar 1 year ago
@ustadkhanali
yes they are cus the quran say jesus was risen alive to say he died and is burried donest go towards the qraun which says jesus isnt dead and will die in his 2nd coming next and is going to get buried next to nabi paqk muahmmed grave in medina ,the holy prophet left a space to be burried next to him simple fact , so ahnmedis dnt say ur ahmad was the one in the bibile when nabi paqh said he was the one lmooo
007pakstar 1 year ago
@kazakhseven...jesus taken to heaven???????????? these are made up stories for god sake....he lived 80 years man before he die....
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
wow nuwanwijesinghe and where is your proof of this????
paddy6062 1 year ago
@paddy6062 i have evidence with me because i personely visited a place in Tebet where jesus stayed and learn...also if you really interested i can prove this also....come to sri lanka if you can i have all the evidence....
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
@kazakhseven
Jesus taken to where? UP! Do you think Allah live in Sky?
javedmahmood 1 year ago
@ everybody....
I am a christian but sad to say bible does not contain correct information. bible does not reflect on who is jesus christ... their is no information when its come to certain age limit....why... can somebody answer.....
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
@ bazzymushpea123,
what proof you have to say jesus died in jeruselam?. Nothing right..... you belive what bible say..... what proof you have in order to say bible contain correct information?.
nuwanwijesinghe 1 year ago
The spirit of the Lord that dwells within you.
ranaair 1 year ago
@nuwanwijesinghe Just take the Moral meaning - Love thy Enemy- JESUS & leave all the confusions BEHIND! NOTHING IS ABOVE LOVE N HUMANITY.IF U CAN'T LOVE VISIBLE CREATURES INCLUDING ANIMALS WHICH IS HAVING LIFE THEN HOW CAN U LOVE INVISIBLE GOD - MOTHER TERESA
bled2nouralive 1 year ago
@wingully think rational before posting. whatif i say that it is muslims who ensalve woman by forcing them to wear burkha and promoting polygamy? remember when you point a finger towards others three fingers point back at you. hindus are far more tolerant towards other religions than muslims are. its a fact. face it. stop hating hindus
ashokumar 2 years ago
this is probably the tomb of a disciple of Jesus but not of the own Jesus !
claudiamer 2 years ago
no one knows much about it..but i have been here, the place gives lot of peace..its a very old tomb with a 9 feet grave and a cross..i cant say what it is..but Jesus is called Issa in india..
gulsheeba 2 years ago
wikipedia
Greco-Buddhism
Buddhism and Christianity
qaplatlhinganmaH 2 years ago
a lot came from far place's to the mountain's the high point all other race was made slave by the kuffars of babeylan hindus abused all female's from other race from far so there female's pussy could trap others rule lulla of other land's.
wingully 2 years ago
the hindu's krissna kuffars killed female's in india as to slave other female's in india 4000 years ago, befoe they killed them they abused them, this is how you get the tempel's of hindus stone sex face it the truth.
wingully 2 years ago
the real name is this yusa assuse aliahill salaam din of the holly ghost from the high point in ever rest in salaam in the high point of the mountain's of islam
wingully 2 years ago
A quei tempi molti portavano il nome uguale o simile a quello di Gesù. Gesù di Nazaret è morto in croce e risorto! Non credo in suoi (probabili?)spostamenti così lontani, credo solo che Gesù è redentore di tutti anche musulmani, indiani d'America, buddisti, ebrei e chiunque voglia la sua novità purché gli creda, lo ami e lo imiti
Maripoppins57 2 years ago
This is the Pure Proof of Jesus (AS) Existence...there is No Such thing as a Physical Ascension.
The7rue0ne 2 years ago 15
No it isn't the pure proof I'm afraid. If Jesus did not rise from the dead physically, then the location of his tomb is in Jerusalem which was found. No resurrection theories would have even come about if Christ had not died that day in Jerusalem. If people believe that this is the tomb of Jesus then I can just make a tomb in my backyard, chuck a body inside and say this is the tomb of the real Jesus because he came to England and preached, even though I have no evidence.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
where is the real tomb of jesus????
boyzffuture 2 years ago
Well it is obviously in Jerusalem, the Christian belief is that the church of the holy sepulchre is where the the tomb was. There are a few other sites in Jerusalem which also lay claim to this. Jesus was no doubt originally buried in Jerusalem though, possibly his ossuray was moved back to Nazareth if the family tomb was there, but who knows. Definately isn't this one though.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
@The7rue0ne how can u prove it
monumonu2007 1 year ago
We the Ahmadiyya Muslim community believe that this is the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth.
Yuz Asaf Nabi - Jesus the Prophet.
As a point of interest, I would like you to research and find out the place of the crucifixion of Jesus. Everything will slowly begin to makes sense.
Mary's grave is also in Kashmir, the place know as a Mai Mari da Asthana. Mother Mary's tomb.
mahmoodahmadtoronto 2 years ago
@mahmoodahmadtoronto
Slm, i am Also an Ahmadi Muslim...and i Also Believe this is Jesus' (AS) tomb...everyone else just Believes he was Raised Physically.
The7rue0ne 2 years ago
Alhmadullillah that Allah has guided us..!
I would like to focus you attention on the fact that according to Biblical history, the place where Jesus was crucified was known as "Place of the Skull"...I am sure our opponents agree that SriNager (Siri-Skull Naga=Place) was not a name that Mirza Sahib(as) gave to the place where Jesus is buried.
mahmoodahmadtoronto 2 years ago
who believes in a lie withou knology is inocent , that who believes in the same lie with this became guilt.
AstroinautABC 2 years ago
Mainstream islam? Islam is not the people, nor the scholars.
faro0485 2 years ago
I've watched all of these documentaries, Jesus in Kashmir and all these other stories- they are all just as stupid as the stories which state Yeshua came to Glastonbury England. There is no evidence whatsoever, it is simply- Jesus may have gone here or there, there could be a possibility of it happening e.t.c. Speaking from a historians point of view- its ludicrous, we have accounts of His life so close to after His death- I suppose we are not to trust primary sources anymore?
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
Well, they are no more stupid than the pathetic claims made by illiterates in _Nicea in 325. In fact,basically every other explanation is more logical than the cross death and the rapture. But, hey, all Abrahamitic religions have proved to be dellusional death cults; intolerable with no grasp of reality wehatsoever, created by a bunch of ignorant patriarchs claiming to represent "God"...
Jesus in Kashmir? I have problem with that. It makes sense really. The bible does not.
bohemianwriter1 2 years ago
Tomb of Thomas (the doubting follower ... sold into slavery to be released in India?)
Thomas seems likely - also spoke Jesus words like a human predictive text editor - pretended to be Jesus "twin" .."Tell me Thomas you who call yourself my twin, what am I going to say now?" As is they both shared one consanguinal spirit of the two of them.
scottmcon 2 years ago
Hmm.. Interesting.. I just finished the BBC documentary "did jesus die on cross".
I was thinking Jesus to be a great scholar atleast.. i have lost regards on him..
he escaped from his own country and still was cautiously fooling his disciples and people..
so pity christians..
tempotek 2 years ago 2
It is not a bad idea to have a 'tomb of Jesus' wherever his propagandists want to popularize what is supposed to have been taught by him.
paulkrist44 2 years ago
Dont talk about Mohammed cause if u see he has misguided people very nicely ... :)
vimawa 2 years ago
@Morenob...I knew u would accuse us Muslims of creating stories about Christ or his tomb..well its a BBC Documentary filmed by Christians...Thanx
Meoehu 2 years ago
It obviously is not Christians who filmed it, because a Christian wouldn't believe that Christ went elsewhere or that He was buried. Just because they are English it doesn't mean they are Christians. Peace.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago 2
Nah! A Christian rather believes in what the local money sucking televangelist tells you.
Have you EVER read the bible and realized how pathetic the biblical claims are?
Christians= gullible sheep
bohemianwriter1 2 years ago
Arr see the problem with that claim is it is context dependent- it is related only to what you have seen and experienced in your own culture. This is not neccessarily the case with entire Christianity- I myself have gone back to being an atheist twice but have always returned, every day I challenge the bible and what it says- I debate with fellow Christians on topics which I have problems with until I find an answer. I look at my faith like this, I always put it under scrutiny and criticsm...
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago 2
... And I don't hold back- anything I find which I can evaluate and criticise I will do. My conclusion is seeing as my faith has still managed to withstand all of this scrunity and doubt- there must be a good reason as to why I believe it, there must be an intelligent, logical reason as to why I do. I don't go to church or listen to preachers much brother because I prefer to think for myself, and yes I have read the bible and like yourself I first thought it was ridiculous. But that was at first
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
The only way your "faith" withstand" any scrutiny isd because that you are brainwashed & do not tolerate anyone questioning your fairytale. that's why you are so upset. You do not toelrate any other faith than your own. Christianity have proven this thoughout time. And it's only a question of time before ALL ME desert religions must kiss their hegemony goodbye. but not before you have spilt the blood of millions of ppl in the name of your psychotic god.
bohemianwriter1 2 years ago
May I respectfully disagree? I am not brainwashed, I grew up as a non-believer, in a non-believing family, a couple of years ago I started to read the bible and study e.t.c which is how I came to believe- nobody forced me to believe anything or told me what to believe. I am extremely tolerant of other faiths- I don't know about you but I live in England, the most multi-cultural society you can get- I love everyone no matter what they believe. And with all due respect I have never ever...
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
harmed anybody in the name of my beliefs. I have no intention of ever hurting a human being, especially not for my beliefs and I will not be held accountable for the horrific crimes committed by other wicked people in the name of religion. And my 'fairytale' is being questioned everywhere, everyday, I do it aswell and I'm completely fine with it- infact I think it should always be questioned and no personal faith has the right to not be criticised- I'm a big fan of Richard Dawkins for example.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
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gulsheeba 2 years ago
of course a Muslim would say Jesus tomb is found in india and in the background you hear someone singin ''Allahhhh''
Wow you Muslims really going for it to bring Christianity down let me put the facts straight here for the nonbelievers and new Christians. nobody has ever found the bones of Christ they only found his empty tomb or a fake tomb related to him so Christians are save and Jesus did rose from the dead.
Morenob 2 years ago
@Mrletthestartwinkle..This is not a joke. I have seen the tomb my self and to clarify all your doubts may i request you to Kindly watch the Documentary which is in 3 parts on you tube. the title is Jesus in Kashmir(BBC Documentary) Hope it will answer all your questions.
Meoehu 2 years ago
Tomb of Jesus? Is this a joke? It must be!
MrLetthestartwinkle 2 years ago
let me clarify again, when ESA (AS) will return there will be a leader/guide present already but afterhis return Esa (AS) will become the leader. Now is that clear enough for you TI?
The hadith about mehdi mentions that he will be from the Prophet's (SAW) family? The very fact that Esa (AS) is not a syed proves the hadith that a mehdi will be present before ESA (AS) arrives. It also provesthe fact that mehdi being talked about and Esa (AS) will be 2 different people. do you understand this?
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
WOW! I posted about three comments, even one on your page I think... Didn't you read it??? It's a Hadith that shows Jesus as will be the same person as Imam Mahdi.
So how would Jesus a.s come back as someone who is "from Prophet Muhammad S.A." ?
- first of all he was born before the Prophet, which means he isn't from his family (your interpretation of "from Prophet"
- and second, he was a prophet for the Jews, why would he come for Muslims? Why can't there be someone FROM PROPHET MUHAMMAD ?
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
TI you obviously can't understand english and I have typed it out for you enough times already. That is ok. I guess this is what ahmadis are taught to do.
Now shall we move on to something else about your mirza. WHo is the Dajjal accoridng to your mirza and who ar ethe yajooj majooj?
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Nice excuse to change the topic once again, and btw I already answered that question in a comment before. Why don't you try looking for it?
Let me break it down for you again... If Prophet Muhammad (SA) said that Imam Mahdi and Jesus WILL BE THE SAME PERSON, and if he ALSO SAID THAT the Imam Mahdi "Will be from him", try to remember a few seconds ago you read that Imam Mahdi -IS JESUS-.. Now link those two Hadiths together, CAN JESUS BE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SA)???
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
If you want to lie abou thadith sthen hey by all means do so. You know of which hadith sI am talkign about that talk about MEhdi being from Prophet (SAW)' sfamily? Since Esa (AS) IS NOT from Prophet's family so it is proven that at the time of Esa (AS) arrival there will be a guide/leader present amongst muslims and after hi sreturn Esa (AS) will become that leader thus retaining the title of Messiah and Mehdi.
If you still do not understand then God help you.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
So you think I'm lying when I show you the words of the Prophet(SA)? I think there's more room for a lie in a prediction than a Hadith, so don't blame the words of the Holy Prophet (S.A), after all, who DO you follow? The Holy Prophet (SA)? Or the terrible people he said would be the mullahs? You have been so brainwashed, that you openly deny the hadiths of the one you claim to follow
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
I never said Jesus was a syed. Show me where I said that? Allah ka shukat hai I am mor eknowledgeable then the average brain washed ahmadi and I know that Esa (AS) was born before Prophet (SAW). Now, tell me if the following equation is incorrect.
mirza = mehdi = messiah = prophet = prophet Muhammad (SAW) = lord krishna .......
Now if you have read your mirza's book syouw ill know that the above equation is correct.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
I fail to understand how the dajjal could have been kille dby your mirza when He is still very much alive and sheeding theblood of muslims. Rememebr the hadiths sadi that dajjal will be killed by the messiah not defeated.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Killed by Messiah? First you tell me what you define as dajjal... Sometimes you say it is Mirza himself (God forbid). Make up your mind please. You people repeatedly ask how Mirza (AS) was similar to Jesus (AS). You know it took about 300 years for Jesus to be accepted. However we don't believe in illogical magic, like you expect. We know Islam is a religion of nature, and everything takes time. Who sheds the blood of Muslims? If you are refering to Americans, then let me tell you that
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
that we are very much respected and protected. We have a good name, and our slogan is Love for All Hatred for None. We dont fight Jihad by sword, we fight by pen and tongue. Allah protects us and that is why nobody attacks us (except other Muslims who are like Jews - according to Muhammad).... So who attacks you people? You yourselves incite all this mess, then you complain and take out your anger by attempting to wipe out us - the only true Muslims left.
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
You talk trash about us and the Messiah (AS), you kill us, you deny us, then you expect him to save you from others, when in reality this is all due to YOUR OWN actions. You mess up by your selves, then you say... "Mirza was a liar! look, he didnt save us from our bloodshed". First accept the Truth, then i promise Allah will save you from Dajjal.
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
Quran does not say that Esa (AS) died. Please do not associate lies with the Qurab. I have read enough trranslations to know the meaning of 3.55
Naturally your mirza had to lie about everything othereiwise who woudl have accepted him?
Abu Hurayra, Radi-Allahu anhu, narrates that Rasulullah said, 'By him in whose hand my soul is, surely the son of Mary will come down among you as a just ruler.
Please tell me this hadith is a lie?
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Not a lie at all, who is Jesus, Son of Mary (AS)? He is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian(AS). The Promised Messiah and Mahdi.
Islam is a religion of nature. when do you see people floating down from the sky? Keep waiting for your Jesus (AS), its been over two thousand years and you still havent accepted anyone. The time your people predicted that he will come has passed over 100 years ago. That time was exactly when he came, but you still cant open your eyes.
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
So who decides, YOU? YOU HAVE DECLARED THAT QURAN DOESNT SAY JESUS DIED? Well tell me, It says that Allah brought Jesus close to him. The controversial word is Rafa. We say Rafa means spiritually exalt. You people say it means to physically move. When you do namaaz in between two sajdas you say wa-RAFA-nee. When you translate that, you say it means spiritually exalt. So now what? one word has two different meanings?
read 17:93 (or 94 depending on which Quran)... it says people asked
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
asked Prophet Muhammad (SAW) to ascend to heaven.......... "'Or thou have a house of gold or thou ascend up into heaven; and we will not believe in thy ascension until thou send down to us a book that we can read.' Say, 'Holy is my Lord! I am not but a man sent as a Messenger.'"
If Prophet (SAW) coudnt ascend, then how could Jesus (AS)? If anyone deserves to be alive then it should be the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW), right?
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
Why would I believe what the Bible says? Do you know how much of it is in its original form? If you do then congratulations. I suggest you start following those bits. After al they are divine revealtions. Who cares if we are told not to follow them, right?
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Who told you not to follow the Word of Allah? Yes it has been corrupted according to THEIR NEEDS, why would they change that part?
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
Secondly, I am not changing topics. Now Mirza = Allah's Nabi = Messiah = MEhdi.
PErhaps you are in knowledge of some hadiths which prove that the mehdi will claim to be a prophet and receive divine revelations.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Who did Allah call kaffir? The ones who read kalima and believe? The ones who are promoters of peace? The ones who pray to him? The ones who believe in the 5 pillars? No! Anyways look at the Jews they are still waiting for their Elijah they say"God clearly told us that Elijah himself will come down" now you and I both know that that prophecywas fulfilled by John the Baptist. Look at Mirza's (AS) life, it was so similar to the life of Jesus. I can tell u how if u ask..
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
Is mehdi going to be from Prophet (SAW)'s family or not?
Rasulullah said, 'The Mahdi is one of us, from among the people of my household. In one night Allah will inspire him and prepare him to carry out his task successfully.' (Ahmad)
What are Prophet (SAW)'s family called? That is right... Syeds. Now was mirza from Prophet (SAW)'s family? NO. Being a qadiani I gueess you are just going to tell me that this is just another metaphor :)
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
HAHAHHA Alhamdulillah!!!!!!
You just love to be wrong don't you?
1) Through his fore-mothers, Ghulam Ahmad (AS) was a descendent from Prophet Muhammad SAW through his daughter Fatimah Zahra.
2) This Hadith proved your theory wrong. IS JESUS A SYED? NO! Its much more likely that Mirza (AS) was a syed than Jesus (AS) who by the way - incase you didnt know was born before Prophet (SAW).
3) "in one night"? If Jesus were to descend, wouldnt he already know what his purpose is?
Sorry man, you lost.
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
Yar are you crazy or something? When did I say JEsus will be from Priophet (SAW)'s family? Tell me honestly have you read the hadiths which show mehdi and Esa (AS) will be 2 different people. If anythign this hadith proves that these are two different people and not one. When Esa (AS) will come there will be a mehdi present . At what point exactly will Esa (AS) then become the leader I do not know but there will be a leader present when he arrives.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Are you crazy? First you ask me to show you a Hadith which proves Mehdi and Promised Messiah are supposed to be the same person, i show you the Hadith and still you act as if i didnt? please read the Hadith i provided you...
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
TI, mehdi = guided one. Agreed? Esa (AS) will be the guided one but when he comes there will be a mehdi present. I can post you dozens of hadiths that prove that mehdi and Esa (AS) are 2 different people at the time of Esa (AS)'s descent. Would you read them with an open mind if I send them to you?
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
ok give me the work on mirza's lineage.
How was it proven that he was a syed?
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Read this piece of writing by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS It will definately make you see - if you can
go to alislam dot org
then on the right in the search box type "a misconception removed"
search and click the 1st link
...Spirituality and faith is like a science, you can't always expect and believe in what is apparent and on the top, you have to see deep meanings, lots of people cant do that, and that is why lots of people have been misguided, please read it; it will only take a few minutes.
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago
typical ahmadi response when they have nothing better to say they just twist worsd around.
Where is the workonmirza's lineage. I haveneevr seen any ahmadi provide me with a link. All I have been told i sthatbecasue mirza said he is a descendant so we accept it like all other non sense mirza said. YOu have yourself that mirza might have been a syed.
You miht like to think that I have lost but the fact is that you just make yourself look silly when you defend mirza.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
Only the disbeliever laughs at the muslim. Quran 83:29-36
faro0485 2 years ago 2
I am a disbeliever in Islam my friend, but I don't 'laugh' at Muslims. I have no problem with Islam aslong as it does not insist that it is the true faith.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
Let me make that clearer... a disbeliever who is into sin laughs and the believer.
Quran 83:29
You have no problem unless it insists? But it does insist. Quran 2:2.
faro0485 2 years ago
Of course the Qur'an insists it, but I'm talking about Muslims telling me that I'm wrong and they are right and imposing their own views into others. But I'm not saying this is every Muslim, this is just the part of Islam I do have a problem with. The bible insists it is truth also- you don't believe in that but I myself don't insist your wrong.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
Is the bible read in it's original language and contexts? Verses from the bible insist... as they do, but the scholars of the bible have issues with the authenticity of many parts of the bible(s) that is(are) claimed to be the bible.
If it was read as it was revealed... why would the muslims side with atheist arguments against the bible? Surely they'd agree with quran 5:82?
I suppose this would explain it to some degree: /watch?v=yfflgF_H0kY
faro0485 2 years ago
. Prophet Muhammad said "He will be burried next to Me", and metaphorically he was...
Allah ka wasta hai aisee bakwas na likha karo..... You people cliam to have respect for the Prophet (SAW) and you mock the clearest of his words. You have made everything the Prophet (SAW) said about Esa son of Mary a metaphor. How much more can you insult the Pophet (SAW)? Not once companion of the Prophet (SAW) considered these hadiths a metaphor but your mirza did. lanat haimirza par.
asharpervez1000 2 years ago
This is why your people and countries are getting destroyed. You use jihad as an excuse to kill everybody and your proof is from the Quran. You see, your INTERPRETATION of the Quran is different from ours. Allah permitted the people of Muhammad to fight back as jihad once they were attacked, not "kill every kaffir" - the way you interpret it now. Allah gave the power to properly interpret the Quran to very few people. If everything was that clear, then why are there 73 sects?
TheTrueIslam1 2 years ago