Logic Pro - How to use Sidechaining

[paulbearerblkz]

dude who sidechains like this?

[ThisDudeOnUtube]

awesome job.

[bdashsni]

skip to 5:30 if you want to know how to side the chain the base line...your welcome

[AlonzoMartinez11]

thanks man, you made my day.

[NicoQuedenbaum]

there is a better and clearer way to sidechain mate

[theghostname]

Made sense. Thanks!

[psylense0]

To Find the plus. if ur not seeing it. go 2 the ultrabeat insert and select Ultrabeat Multi Output.

[Illuminare726]

so much simpler in reason 5......

[hhanslie]

Really helpful, thank you!

[bloodshotryda]

this video was quite simple but extremely helpful. thanks :)

[domeyeahaight]

Wicked brah

[joeryanisaocelot]

this was pretty helpful, seems to me that people who don't understand this tutorial need to first go through all the basic tutorials first. I understood it fine.

[MrDanielSultan]

how do u select output 1-2. i Only have Output 1 and Output 2. There is no option that says Output 1-2. Help please!!!

[basilfontenot77]

pretty confusing video. wish it was more straight to the point

[joethemost]

yea i dont have that button either...

[chriswilsonukmusic]

thanks very much for this, really appreciate it! really helpful vid

[mrnickbrayton]

great! thanks for your help!

[brnardo6]

You are AWESOME and in just 3 tutorials I have learned so much and am greatly inspired (and this is coming from an OOOOOOLD ARP 2500 dude...!) Thx

[DJestify]

@knerken thats because you must make ultrabeat a multi output

[Remdon4x4]

is there a way you can sidechain in logic when your rewiring with reason, usin the kick from my redrum

[gibs2b]

Why don't you send directly the Kick instrument to the bus ? It's also working...Why do you set this 1st Aux Channel for the Kick ?

[BonafydeMusic]

great vid i dont see how people get confused :s

[joselchino]

buff.. you made it so difficult

[dentony2k]

Hey Dan, if you press esc it brings up the toolbox! Quick tip of the day!

[jirishj]

This may sound silly but how do you mute the sound of the bass drum? so its just the wob sound without the kick?

[powdermonkeydan]

@jirishj Just change the output to NONE. The bus settings will still route the kick to the compressor.

[MagicKeyzZ]

@powdermonkeydan I had the same question...if i do it like u explain here...the kick is still bumping a little...

is there any way to just solo the bass with sidechain on it?

[walshb9420]

@powdermonkeydan or 'No Output'

[professerdung]

this was very helpfull thanks !

[VHBravo1]

This is a FANTASTIC video! Perfect!

[TheGoofyGreg]

hi think your video is very helpful mate ....but like Knerken I also havent got the - + signs can you help?

[TheGoofyGreg]

@TheGoofyGreg found it

[banneyharri]

can someone post a link to a proper side chaining video instead of this confusing jibber jabber

[ambroisebellec]

@banneyharri this is actually veyr easy to follow you know

[powdermonkeydan]

@banneyharri Hey! Hope you found yourself a proper video. Apologies if you don't like my jibber jabber. I am - after all - the bastard son of Mr T :)

[candysplit]

dude-you are telling to long the thing that you can tell fast!

[Lorenzo763]

hey bro, can u plz tell me how do u get the +symbol at 1:36 ?

tanx

[melvalicious92]

thanks a lot bro! I appreciate it ^___^

[DubStepVIIX]

Cant find the +symbol at 1:36

[MrmuJiA]

@DubStepVIIX

have you set the ultrabeat as multi output and not stereo?

[muzikmasta7]

i believe routing the kick to bus 1 with a compressor on it is especially useful if you have a whole drum track with hihat, snare, etc routed to the same bus with parallel compression, then the bass side chain acts on the whole drum track. is this right?

[sparkanotherowl23]

hey this is really useful for someone like me who knows fuck all about producing! was wondering how I'd sidechain on Logic without using ultrabeat e.g. if I had audio samples that I wanted to sidechain with a bass line or hi hats and bass drum sort of thing? you reckon you could shed some light? thanks again!

[expendablepreloader]

I think this is a really good post (I finally learned how to side-chain), but there are a few key commands that can make your life a lot easier. First, to create a bus, just click and hold on one of your channels send slots and a pop-up menu will appear. Choose to send it to aux 1 or bus 1 and it will create the new channel for you already connected with your original channel strip. And if you want to set your send to 0 db, all you have to do is option-click the send dial. Hope this helps!

[knerken]

eh... Cant find the +symbol at 1:36.

[ReefLoretto]

@knerken the +symbol appears once you set up ultrabeat as a multi output track. if that helps :S

[Lorenzo763]

@knerken when u select ultrabeat, u have to select multi output instead of stereo :)

sorry for the lateness...

[powdermonkeydan]

@Lorenzo763 Yeah apologies for the delay on responding. There's different options when you create an Ultrabeat - you want Multi Output. The same also applies when creating an EXS 24 :)

[nedned8]

@knerken i dont know if youve found it out yet, but you need to set ultrabeat to multi output when you select it as an instrument in the left bottom corner. i spent weeks trying to work that out!

[gibs2b]

@knerken Because you set a Stereo track. He said MULTICHANNEL !

[MrDelfiero]

@knerken Had the same problem, but that was bacause Ultrabeat was on Stereo and not on Multi Output

[jdmkevin619]

@knerken SAME!, i think its because its outputing to stereo instead of outputs 1,2

[matillathebun]

@knerken open ultrabeat as multi output, not stereo or surround



[sadizes]

@knerken me too!!!!!!!!

[TaylorTayMusic]

@knerken You didn't change Ultrabeat to Multi Channel, or you're looking at the channel strip on the side, not the mixer.

[12345l6789]

Works a treat

[keondub]

thankyou for this :) been lookeing for this for ages

[chrisparion]

THE MOST STUPED TIP! NO THIS WAY 

[refused]

@chrisparion After I read this sentence I felt as stupid as you..

[BTRCRAFT]

@refused then you are stupid because this guy has made this twice as hard as he needed to you only need one compressor and one aux or bus. even the guy who made the video knows he did it wrong he just hasnt changed it

[csestini]

Thank you for sharing this!

[DJDARKSTEPZ]

ok anychance of a video on how to sidechain a kick from and exs24 with a sub in another exs24???

im having so much trouble doing it||!!!!

[crossyking1]

great man, sweet tut....i learnt something today

[recording001]

why dont i have the plus sign...

[TheStoryWeLive]

on ableton you just put the compressor on the synth and select audio from the kick. man this too much. lol ableton MUTHFUCKAS!!!

[SomeRandomDude00]

I always look at your video when i forget how to do it! :)

[Raznoy777]

goodd!!!

[bryant8133]

why does logic never work for anythin? i hate this transition from fl to logic - logic blows balls everywhere. When i click something - nothing ever fucking happens . First off cant find that plus sign - dont see that 8 voice anywhere when i try to change it from stereo. Did some retarded guy make this program?

[duenwegrobbie]

@bryant8133 I think it's the user

[mw2king89]

@bryant8133 8 voice what

[mw2king89]

@bryant8133 oh on the es2? its at the very top in the middle

[MrFungusEli]

Great vid ! it helped me alot . And i have to disagree to what JimvsBob said cause i find it no trouble at all to copy what you do in the video. i rated up and subscribed =)

Thanks !

[davi296]

awesome tutorial mate really good job

[ruuku00black]

i find that setting the threshold to peak instead of rms seems to work better for sidechaining.

[dillitex]

Why is it necessary to add a compressor on Bus 1? Isnt it enough to simply route the Bus 1 signal sans compressor to the bass channel's compressor and adjust your settings there?

[powdermonkeydan]

@dillitex Yup, you're right. I got it wrong. It's been commented on before. But now I know. :)

[dillitex]

@powdermonkeydan

Cool, i was just wondering if there was a better reason. What i have an issue with is adding a 2nd compressor on a baseline for example, a baseline that already has a non-sidechain compressor on it, then adding a 2nd compressor to sidechain the kick and having the entire bassline being doubly, and overly compressed. Any tips for how to prevent the sidechain compressor from doing anything aside from ducking for your kick?

[ph1losopher]

@powdermonkeydan Having a compressor on the first bus changes the behavior of the sidechaining and certainly does have an effect. Having a longer attack and decay on the bus compressor before it is sidechained into the bass synth provides control over the "swell" effect without having to change the sound of the kick. I did find this video very helpful.

[guitarsalert]

@powdermonkeydan i just figured that out then myself ahah :D

[JimvsBob]

you've made that whole process seem as confusing as humanly possible.

[powdermonkeydan]

@JimvsBob Thanks for that! Your video was much better. Oh. Wait a minute...

[kly45]

@powdermonkeydan Don't listen to him this is a really cool tutorial. I'm gonna make phat beats all day now!! Thanks man

[JimvsBob]

@powdermonkeydan I'll do mine in backwards german, have no mouse cursor, and the lowest resolution ever. It'll still be more coherent than this vid.

[gaj1012]

@powdermonkeydan well what i know is that you confused the crap out of me because i couldnt find the + symbol @1:36 :s:s

[felipearroyo]

@powdermonkeydan haha!

[charnk]

@JimvsBob I agree JimvsBob. Given dillitex's comment and yours, I wonder if this video was useful at all other than introducing the term sidechain to me.

[MrLeePickett]

@JimvsBob i agree. there's got to be an easier way to side chain

[remco366]

excuse me but at 1:57 you click the ub-3-4 or something and then you select inst 1, which i guess means you're assigning it to the ultrabeat. but i dont get to choose inst 1! i can only choose from no output, output, bus, surround....

[butters671]

@remco366 me too....

[jordanhill64]

how do you get the output to be (output 1-2)? im having trouble with that

[NytzMusic]

My logic (8) dosent give me the option of adding a aux channel that is directly linked to ultrabeat could u help me out mate

[jneal1221]

thanks for the great vid! Im sitting here taking notes for fun. haha

[jonobyrne]

your voice reminds me of the guy out of little britain with the brother in the wheelchair haha.

regardless, good tutorial, do mine a little diffrent but it all works!

[powdermonkeydan]

@jonobyrne Thanks for that - that's possibly the worse thing you could have said! F*king hate Little Britain.

Apart from that, nice comment. ;)

[jonobyrne]

@powdermonkeydan haha sorry man, maybe its just your accent, im an aussie so you all kind of sound the same haha.

keep up the good work man

[joselchino]

@powdermonkeydan hahaahah... that was funny :)

[dioguiii]

Hi!Tks for the tut :) . Just a question: why do u create a bus channel when you can specify on the compressor of the bass that the sidechain signal comes from "audio 1" .Which means that u don't need to use the bus as a intermediate .This way u don't need to create a bus channel n don't need to have 2 compressors .

[4stringswing]

You do know that if pencil is selected as a secondary tool, you just need to hold command to bring it up. And pressing esc brings up the whole tools menu which is a huge time saver :-)

[theycallmeshua]

can some one please tell me how to change my fucking I/O from UB 3-4 to 17!!!

nothing happens when i click on it! NOTHING FUCKING WORKS!

[theycallmeshua]

@theycallmeshua wow im dumb

[Vanjal]

@chaz9123 I used Fruity for years.

Fruity Loops is a toy. This is serious shit. i guess you know that since you're using Logic. But Fruity is really good for electro. And that's all.

[jdso12]

thanks!

[chaz9123]

alot easier in fl studio and sounds alot better im in collage using logic and it sounds ok but id rather use fl soooo much easier

[FreedomILove]

thank you sooooo muchooo!

[Erzbergender]

hey can you use the exs24 for this type of sidechaining? can somebody pease tell me how! pm me or some shizz.

[setwreka]

GREAT TUTORIAL THANX ALOT!!

[xVoodeedoox]

this is logic studio, i have it, and did what it said as i watched and its exactly like logic studio.

[xVoodeedoox]

flying lotus is happy.

[brom16]

nice tutorial mate i'm gonna rince sidechaining until i hate it and never do it again

[QuantumSound615]

This is EXACTLY what I needed. Thanks!

[shitefromaheight]

excellent tutorial. just what i needed.

well done powdermonkeydan =)

[kevintheeardrum]

Sweet!!! i really use this now!!

[marcoapa94]

look, the first time i tried to do the sidechain everything was ok, but now, when i try to do it again the little square of BUS 1 doesn't come yellow and stays blue, so the synth/bass/kick doesn't appear in the compressor.

do you know what i have to change to fix that?

hope you understood me

*sorry if i said something wrong, i'm not american

[Jeffro303rd]

So is Ultrabeat a default plugin in logic?... just wondering because i was thinking about getting logic pro 9 because i'm getting sick of fl studio and reason lol

[TimR909]

Yes, Ultrabeat is a default plugin, and there are a bunch of other great sounding & versatile software instruments & effects plugins included with Logic.

[MubangaDNB]

@Jeffro303rd yeah but you will need a mac

[motionate]

having your tracks in mono is really important. All those stereo tracks can clutter up your mix.Panning tracks that are in mono sound better in the stereo field.keep most tracks mono except for a few sounds and your tracks will sound way cleaner,word

[fishybishbash]

Wow you have absolutely no clue what you're doing. And you're posting up tutorials!

[biziziz]

thank you , c'est limpide comme on dit chez les grenouilles!

[dave8bass]

the loooong way round..

[UFO6NewWorldOrder]

THANK YOU!!!!

[brefinburgs]

That plus sign that creates an aux channel for the kick isnt there and I cant figure out how to send my ultrabeat track to a blank aux track. I tried sending the kick through a bus to the aux but that didnt work either. Can anyone tell me how to get that plus sign there or how to send my ultrabeat track to an aux, I need that pulsing sound for a song i made.

[KristofWynants]

when you set up a new Ultrabeat in your empty software instr. track, make sure it's 8-voice instead of stereo and then the plus should be appearing, now you can send each voice (snare, kick, toms, whatever you load in) to seperate aux channels or to any combination of aux channels you desire. hope this helps

K

[Jcsmash]

Brother every thing in the proceedure is ok exept you forgot the most important part.. on the lower part of the compressor there is an arrow that points the compressor name... push the arrow and more options will come up... where it says side chain activity you must put ON so it reads the process your sending to the bus!! Hope it helps cheers!

[audiocamp]

great tutorial, thanks for sharing your logic knowledge :)

[BrahamCracker]

Hey, on the ultrabeat kick I don't see that plus button. I imagine I have something disabled or not enabled. Anybody help?

[BrahamCracker]

NVM newbie found it

[M3sslah]

When you choose the ultrabeat, try choosing the multi out version and see if that makes it work.

[djcolinturnbull]

hey.. yeah... your using logic pro 7 probably.. they updated ultrabeat... in logic studio.. or logic 8. : )

[Tgreenfi08]

This was great! I wish you would have done a quick explanation on what Ratio and Knee really is and why it effects the sounds as such. I'm still trying to understand compression, and I have been trying to learn how to side chain for awhile, so this was very helpful!

[ShavedCheese]

great tutorial! thank you!

[WillRun31]

Thanks man, lifesaver :)

[hedandkenproductions]

works in logic express?

[powdermonkeydan]

It's always the little things isn't it?

No worries. :)

[hedandkenproductions]

and whats the bass synth? es1?

[djjamesalexander]

Thanks For the video this is kinda the hard way though isnt it

[Tormodnor]

I have the same problem as mokosaurio. The inst 1 is not apparing in the aux1 i/o, only "input" "bus" and "ableton live". what am i missing here?

[MisoMeMiso]

a piece of brain

[someonetookmynick]

the compressor isn't picking up my kick! help!

[noodles1428]

check ur I/O

[ollythedolly]

thx man!

[sjakiesjaak3]

thnx for this!

[yorkii]

never mind, i didn't make a multi output ultra beat. thanks for the great vid

[yorkii]

that little plus button doesn't appear when I make the ultrabeat track. what do i need to do?

[radioheadfan08]

Great Vid! Thanks

[jameshimselff]

yeah sweet when i do my side chaining i just literally set up a 4 4 beat on an audio track, drop my tune on another track, put a compressor on the tune then set the side chain to audio 1 or whatever track my 4 4 beat is. works exactly the same so why set up the buses etc?

[roisto723]

using busses gives you more control i guess.

[trevdogza]

great vid but one question. is there a reason why you put the kick into mono?

[hmccabe]

The sample that the Ultrabeat plays is mono, so you'll be best off working with that signal in mono. Eventually, that will be output to a stereo track, so you're not losing anything. More or less, it's easier on the computer's processor. Also, some effects, such as a reverbs, will change that signal into stereo, but don't worry too much about it.

[duelcalibre]

Excellent mate. great tutorial !

Jimmy

[charlieonehorse]

sidechaining just sounds like a tremolo pedal

[ordignoinfernale]

ahahah :/

[Flipsidetrack]

That's cool but you don't need to create a compressor aux track for the kick. The sidechain effect actually comes from the kick itself, not its compressor. Thus you can simply send the kick through bus 1 and sidecahin it to the bass track. The aux track that you labelled "sidechain" is actually a parallel compression that is only compressing the kick, not the bass.

[powdermonkeydan]

thanks for that. i was advised to put a compressor on the sidechain too, but only today was I looking at it and thinking - this isn't doing anything! We all learn something...:) Cheers

[forrestgumpx]

great guys, thanks for both input.

[BMKid]

Actually, it is doing something. Its compressing the signal before it goes into the sidechain of the comp on the synth track. Not good cus you won't get the full signal to trigger the synths comp. Also, you could simply have both tracks, then insert a comp on the synth, and just select the kick track in the side chain. No need for the aux track unless you wanted to add other filters to only the sidechain signal.

[proff1999]

Thanks PMD. Just discovered your videos as well. I love Logic Pro instructional videos because I hate reading instructional books on music. So, Cherio and keep up the good work. :-)

[adavis1420]

thanks for this. I've heard about sidechaining but now I know how to do it.

[Plasmobe]

Hi PMD, just discovered you're vids...great job. thanks. :)

One thing....could you please get the audio on your voice louder?

Cheers

[powdermonkeydan]

Hope you enjoy this. Apologies - the ES1 synth sound is a touch louder than I expected it to be. So watch your volume levels!