Rachel Maddow head to head with Pat Buchanan Part 1 of 3

[brigantty]

ms. sotomayor is not some latina girl they just happened to pick off the streets... she was a judge on the 2nd circuit for over 10 years and has decided on over 3000 cases.. maddow is right, she wasn't just picked because she was latina, she actually has the qualifications.. mr buchanan should have researched her better.. affirmative action, come on... he's just mad it wasn't another white male who got the gig..

[atomicdogg97]

Yikes....Rachael came off completely clueless in that debate. She kept trying to shift the debate away from Sotomaayer's credentials. She also ended the interview when she couldn't answer Buchannan's final question.

[whiteliberal1]

It's funny this Dork doesn't mention how C. Thomas benefitted from AA! Or, the many examples of discrimination against Blacks, Hispanics, Women and other groups. Let's remove AA and see how much Pat Buchannan would stick up for those people who were attacked by DOGS and WATER HOSES. The ones who just wanted the right to attend schools, rest. and vote. He's whining about those "poor old white men"? Bwaahahahahahahaha

[atomicdogg97]

Wow...Maddow got her lunch handed to her by Pat. She was clearly out of her league in that debate.

[whiteliberal1]

@atomicdogg97 Only in America!

Please explain how "Maddow got her lunch handed to her by Pat."

This ought to be good.......................

[brigantty]

@atomicdogg97 no, she was just being polite and listening to the racist rant.. he sunk his own behind with his stupid comments...

[DinoMassimi]

Why does Pat waste his time with this mad cow?

[MikeTXBerry]

hell yea. go pat!

[jakefree25]

Why should PRs get AA? AA should only be for blacks.

[drcroft25]

Are you kidding me? Are blacks the only minorities in the USA...? Any group that is discriminated against falls under that act. Unbelievable.

[benbur69]

Those people who do not understand and / or believe that Pat is a racist, do not understand racism.

He also is "cherry picking" history... Not good Pat.

[navigatorhat]

Racism has many flavours. Poor Pat just seems ignorant and biased rather than prejudiced.

In fairness, racial equality has only been a movement of the last 50 years. Maybe some people are just behind the times.

[pcluis60804]

Fact we are here arguing this point = existing tension between races. Hate is contagious, please ignore. Get to know a new friend this week. meet their family and you will see we are not that different. Petty differences are nothing we cannot change that, that is culture. 1 bad apple does not = bad tree. Please consider.

[Peco014]

Back to Affirmative Action, prior to this interview (which I did see televised... I am a HUGE MADDOW FAN!) My logic was that Affirmative Action would only be fair if it worked so that Asians are preferred in predominately Latino enviornments, Whites are preferred in Black enviornments, and so on. Again, Bucannon here sounds like a racist. White men are enduring racism and disicrmination? LMAO! On what planet? Maddow did a supurb job explaining her case! KUDOS!

[Peco014]

Oh yeah, and the conservatives have been and are currently holding America back on HEALTHCARE! America should continue to vote Liberal... that is, if America wants be a leader and innovator again! Kenndy took us to the moon, maybe Obama will get us to Mars! What will the conservatives get us? A new war? Thank you America for 2006 and 2008!

[Peco014]

Admittedly, as a person of colour, I am opposed to the idea of Affirmtive Action. In fact, when applying for employment and so on, when the question of race comes up, I always select "I prefer not to disclose" as I rather progress on my talents than my race. However, Bucannon here comes off sounding like a RACIST here! If the conservative side all sound like him then LONG LIVE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

[Peco014]

Rachel Maddow, I think you are BRILLIANT! Ever think of running for Congress? The country could use your intellelect! THANK YOU for all that you do! That is pushing the Liberal cause which is beneficial for EVERYONE not just the very wealthy!

[Peco014]

Under eight years of Republican tyranny, America has lost the race to progression on gay marriage, gun control, infrastructure (green energy and fuel, public transportation such as trains, and highways), stem cell research, and capital punishment. The conservatives are holding this country back. Thanks to fellow Liberals like President Kennedy had we made it to the moon. Had the conservatives had their way, I'm sure they would have opposed that!

[jakefree25]

its called democracy.

[Peco014]

I hate the fact that Liberal judges are referred to as "activist." As a Liberal myself, I think that conservative judges are ACTIVISTS! The right needs to embrace what we Liberals stand for... PROGRESS! I think it is a good thing to contantly improve and strive for innovation and new ideas versus the conservative side of status quo. With Sotomayor on the bench hopefully we are one Supreme Court Justice closer to GAY MARRIAGE!

[No1JJsMom]

Pat Buchanan needs to shut his trap up and do his homework. He is just hoping to rile up the paranoid, right wingers that are losing grip on power. Sotomayor is the most qualified nominee, possibly ever. His comments about whites being responsible for all that is great about America! How about, whites have built our country's greatness on the backs of others? That piece of crap, Buchanan, needs to review his U. S. history. Apparently a lot of others on this page as well. Good grief.

[Samotheus]

I repeat:

It was WHITE NORTH-WESTERN EUROPEANS who founded the "United States".

The Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, Judicial/Executive/Legislative systems etc were NOT the result of Mexican mestizoes getting sick of the U.K. or African negroes pissed off that slavery was still legal.

[pcluis60804]

You do realize that it was a latin nation (France) that made it possible for the US to become a nation. Minorities are not trying to be better than whites they are just seeking equal treatment in all aspects of life. Whites have accomplished a lot for this nation but are not the only ones to have done so. Maybe if they had done it in more honorable fashion they would be more respected.

[66605]

Rachel is so blind and ignorant that she cannot see that she is the one in favor of discrimination! Pat thinks the best of the best should sit on the Supreme Court regardless of race or sex. Only a fool could disagree with that. Pats honesty and logic is just too much for this liberal dike. All she could do is try and paint Pat as some kind of throwback. She got her ass kicked!

[CrimeReport]

Pat Buchanan is the last man with cajones in the MSM, and made mince meat of this liberal puppet.

[lurkerhermit]

2:40 ..."I...I...I...obviously have a different view". Why obviously? Because you are Paid to have those views?

[workingclass75]

i find it funny that Pat turns this into "We are the victim." Hey, I get it, it sucks that some people will be put out by Affirmative action. I'm a fairly conservative white guy and would hate to lose my job to someone less qualified because of race. And I feel like making race an issue will always make race an issue. But I cant deny the fact that my friends who are black have more trouble making it out of the cycles they are in. We got to even the playing field if we want true freedom for all.

[zsj1111]

workingclass75- Sure, let's "even the playing field" starting tomorrow. Guess what? You're fired and your job will be given to one of your black friends who are "having more trouble".

Put your money where your mouth is, bonehead.

[jimijackson]

no body was fired..it was who was "hired" ahead of another person doofus :p No one is going to fire you because youre white. Just ask george bush lol He screwed up for 4 yrs then got an extention on his contract for another 4 :p

[ehunter2]

Maddow.. a LESBIAN CUNT

Buchanan.. a American hero who will not regurgitate the Communist line

[jimijackson]

pat is the male embodiment of why palin will fail again and again as she did in 2008. put these archaic ideas in any wrapping and theyre still outdated and unelectable.

[zsj1111]

jimijackson- You're so wise. yes, outdated ideas like putting the best possible person, regardless of race or gender, in a job are out. Non-white racists and their racism are in. You're so post modern, so 2009.

[jimijackson]

ammending the effects of 100yrs of racism is the aim of affirmative action. All the judges chosen prior to that were not the "best and the brightest". They just happened to be "the best and brightest of white people".

So..no. Excuse me if i dont cry for you argentina because we allowed a latino in. :)

White men are living on the back of the rewards reaped from all those years of state endorsed racism. This just evens out the playing field (although calling this "even" is an exaggeration)

[zsj1111]

jimijackson- Are you a comedian? No, white men are NOT "living on the back of the rewards reaped from all those years of state endorsed racism." White men founded the US and made it successful. How did "racism" help white men invent/discover electricity, the car, plane, computer, internet, microchip, space travel, telephone, democracy, & a million other things that made the US as prosperous as it is? Almost no one wants to move to black or Latrino nations because they're backward dumps.

[jimijackson]

you know...the beauty of your argument? In 2012 Obama will have a much easier time than he did in 2008 lol *tucks you into your Palin bed sheets*

(hint hint...republicans are still unaware that the democrats are stitching them up. All the commentary about this judge will be replayed in a few yrs time, The latino community has a good memory to boot ;) Lets see how many white "victims" get elected on the back of a latino vote then hey hehe)

[zsj1111]

jimijackson-

Latrinos were only 7% of the electorate in 2008. If the Republican leadership had any brains they'd realize Latrinos are nowhere near as important as Juan McCain and other liberal Republicans think. Try really hard to wrap your head around this: some Republicans didn't oppose Judge So-So because she was a Hispanic. They opposed her because she was a RACIST, remember? Republicans nominated Miguel Estrada to the 1st Circuit Ct of Appeals.

[mark23socom]

God bless Pat Buchanan for speaking the truth! Affirmative action is an abomination that is not only reverse discrimination towards whites, but is an insult to the very people it is suppose to be helping. As a minority I would hate to be given a higher status strictly based on the color of my skin. Basically it's like telling me that I CAN'T make it on my own without the assistance of a government mandated policy! What garbage! This is America and if I work hard enough I can accomplish anything.

[whiteliberal1]

@mark23socom Yeah, you're BLACK just like Bill O'reilly is a Hatian! That silly comment you made is just that.................Silly!

[talon115]

What would happen to this country if white men were to leave tomorrow?  Would it be utopia or chaos?

[pcluis60804]

Pat Buchanan is a dying breed of old white racists men who have ran this country for too long.

[NotSoUniversal]

that would be nice if it actually was a dying breed

[zsj1111]

pclueless60804- If "old white racists (sic) men hadn't founded the US and turned it into the most successful nation in history neither you nor most non-whites would be here. No one wants to emigrate to black Africa, Haiti, Mexico, remember pinhead?

[pcluis60804]

This country will be great no matter who is running it.

Old racists white men have kept others from succeeding way too long.

I didn't ask for your opinion zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzj1111!

wake up and get your head out of your ass!

[Samotheus]

Lol and...who founded your country?

I don't see many Jamal Shabazzes, Miguel Hernandezes, John Shizus...

[Samotheus]

Lol and...who founded your country?

I don't see many Jamal Shabazzes, Miguel Hernandezes, John Shizus in the signatories of the Declaration of Independance

[pcluis60804]

You do realize that Jamal Shabazz and Miguel Hernandez were not around back then. Jamal was in his land and Miguel was in the southwest, his home. If you look up history of the western states at the time of the Declaration of Independence you will see that we were indeed very active in the success of our part of the country.

[zsj1111]

pclueless60804-

Black & Latrino nations are all compost heaps. There's not even a black or Latrino city that you'd live in. The more 3rd worlders that enter the US the more the US looks like the 3rd world. Non-whites will run the US into the ground. It's only a matter of time before they kill the white goose that laid the golden egg. Like it or not whites have a talent for organization, abstract thinking and law & order. Say goodbye to us & blacks & Latrinos will revert to their 3rd world form.

[pcluis60804]

Funny that you say that because I live in a city that is 80% Latino and I am happy to say that we are the 3rd safest city in the US. For a population of over half million that is not bad. Why don't you stop replying to me because racist pigs like you have nothing but hate in their heart and that is contagious.

[Samotheus]

Are these largely-Spanish-descent Cuban "Latinos" that fled Castro?

[cbhagman]

Oh, it's so unspeakably GENEROUS of Pat Buchanan to say he thinks there must be Democratic women fit to serve on the Supreme Court, given that he's willing to turn a blind eye to Sotomayor's experience on the bench, plus in the district attorney's office and in a private law firm, to say nothing of her academic achievements. I can't possibly imagine what hoops are left for an overachiever to jump through.

[16sag7]

According to Buchanan it was ok for other races to be dicriminated against as long as it was not Whites just because the were mostly Whites to die for this country. I guess the throws out his argument for the idea of the best minds or person for the job. White males in power are becomming more rediculous as they struggle to hold on to their little God like kingdoms in government or in life for that matter.

[zsj1111]

16sap- No, Buchanan NEVER said it was "OK for other races to be dicriminated (sic) against as long as it was not Whites..."

Try listening a little more closely, pinhead. There are many white males in power in the US because it was FOUNDED by white males, remember? You wouldn't live want to live here if it wasn't. People of other races aren't trying to force black males out of power in Africa or Latrino males out of power in most of Latin America because those places are garbage dumps.

[16sag7]

You call me a pinhead because of a comment I made? Listen the demographics are changing in America and the White Male will no longer be the majority in the US. You act like you are in favor of the Old Boy Network.  As I said before the Whites in the government today want to keep that status quo to protect their own position weather it is good for the country or not. If you listened closely you would realize this yourself. Just think I made my point without even calling you a name.

[zsj1111]

16sag7- So what if the demographics of the US are changing? How does that justify racism against whites?! Here's a clue: EVERYONE wants to keep their job, regardless of race. Whites ARE the US: we founded it & made if prosperous. EVERY black & Latrino nation is a garbage dump, so why do they want to run the US?! They'll simply turn it into the same hellhole that Haiti & Mexico are. How about getting it right in just ONE of your own countries first? That might enhance the resume a little bit, no?

[16sag7]

It is you that keep thinking my words are about racism. The point you keep forgetting is many Whites will not accept the brilliance of a none white person. Sotomayor is qualified rather you want to see it or not. As for Haiti is concerned it was outside influence that messed up that country. Do your own research and you will find Whites have been at the heart of the problem why certain countries are a mess today but of course you will chose to ignore this fact.

[mightisright]

You act like it's normal for White people to just accept their dispossession. Why in the world would anyone willingly go being being the king to a serf?

I have yet to find anyone who even attempts to answer that question. They typically just laugh it off.

[Mutedvox]

pat buchanan is proof that a good education does not give you common sense. what he has said is incredulous!! what a bloviating sphincter.

[zcatillaz]

this country was built by african slave labor, not white men. who did the work that fed the americas colonial economy?

[zsj1111]

zcatillaz- No, the US was not "built by African slave labor" dumbass. Slavery never existed in most of the US, including any state west of the Mississippi River. Blacks still enslave other blacks in parts of Africa today. If all it takes is "African slave labor" to build a great country, why is black Africa such a backward dump? The horse did more to "build this country" than slaves.

[mightisright]

Don't forget oxen - they were also more important than black slaves.

[Xervosh23]

While I agree with zsj1111's basic worldview (in so far as I can discern it from his remarks here), his statement that slavery never existed west of the Mississippi is not correct. Slavery existed in Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona, as well as very briefly in Kansas. I note that simply because our history is important, and not enough people know about it.

[moirelle]

Pat is a political DINOSAUR. There are a lot of them out there, and they are grasping at staws. People are waking up to the rhetoric and are tired of negativity.

What's funny is that he thinks he speaks for his party, when I have hear nothing but glowing statements about Sotomayor (mostly from conservatives).

[janedoe8011]

Hey Rachel,

You say that Buchanan "has dated" himself here, yet in this video, HE is the one entering the 21st Century taking the stand against racism. You can't seem to back him as he decries the injustice of it.

Assuming you become as famous as he is someday, how will you be remembered when you start "dating" yourself.

[mejirodude]

How is it racism when Sotomayor is EXTEMELY qualified for the Supreme Court? It's nonsense to claim she is just being nominated because of her race. Just check out her background.

[MICHAELMEMISBACL]

Nobody else is as qualified as she is, or more qualified?

[janedoe8011]

In this video, Pat Buchanan argues that racism should not be used to elevate judges to the Supreme Court. Why was it so hard for Rachel Maddow to agree with this, if in fact she did? (Whether she even agreed with his stance against racism here is unclear.)

In her wavering, Maddow proves true the old expression: once a liberal, always a racist.

[colibri1]

Jennifer Gratz didn't care that there were many white students with lower grades than her who got admitted to the University of Michigan when she didn't. She only complained about the minorities who got in.

[roch202020]

Pat Buchanan definitions of "Affirmative Action" are simply disgusting! The Republicans can not find a real reason for not voting for Sonia Sotomayor and so what they're doing is alienating minorities, which in my opinion, is the best thing they have done in years, finally people can see the real face of the Republican Party, I hope people will not forget this behavior over the next few election cycles!

[jbz7890]

Republicans don't want to vote for her because she supports racial preferences. How is that not a "real reason?"

[A86]

Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh are two prime examples of white male privilege. Two underachieving white males questioning the intelligence and ability of minorities (such as Pres. Obama and Sotomayor) who did far better in college than either of them. Sotomayor is far more accomplished and competent than Buchanan will ever be.

Why the fuck do they keep asking this obviously racist assclown his opinion on racial issues?

[lonelygreenteagirlie]

Oh my God. Pat is looney toons.