Sony Vegas: How to "Clean" Re-Sample your Frame Rate - Tutorial

[LSM666]

Your a genius, thankyou sir. I had so much smudge in my quality due to the re-rendered frames I was rendering to 25,000 pal lool

[TempestDivineEditing]

my pvr records in 29.97 fps?

[MoonTeamHQ]

how many fps on the clean one

[IUseFMJ]

When I record with my PVR it says I'm recording at 60fps, but when I go into Sony Vegas it says that the fps for the clip is 119. How do I fix this?

[iSherberti]

WHen i put my clips into vegas from my PVR it says the frame rate is 119. why is this? i cant edit with that high of a frame rate.. HELP ME!!!

[LimiTvBreaK]

@iSherberti

Basically double of 59.94

Not sure how the PVR could possibly record like that, has to be a glitch. Can't help with that.

[DrBassdrop]

@LimiTvBreaK

"YouTube will display it to it's best quality."

Sorry to break it to you bud, but to converse server space, Google locks all videos at exactly 30 fps.

[LimiTvBreaK]

@DrBassdrop

I am very sure I did fps testing with many many private vids and determined that they use the frame rate you give or round it to the nearest preset (ex 27 fps is way abnormal). Now that I think of it I am sure I have seen youtube's own uploading faq mentioning it takes any steady frame rate you give it.

For the quote you pointed, not sure which comment of mine says it if I can explain what I meant exactly.

[CharlieLewisCattell]

is sony vegas always that laggy? because is really laggy for me:(

[AgonizedCandle]

1:45 That's what she said ;)

[PotatoLaces]

Is there a way to disable resampling by default?

[charmedlauraturner]

ok this also show in preview render as reder,colours way better now ty

[charmedlauraturner]

i want to render clip i madce,but wen rendered it blurs movement like cheap webcam

[Minkarazza]

I really wanna commentate but i cant because when ever i try watching it in vegas it will show 1 frame and it will be really wierd but the audio will go normal btw i record wth a hauppage if you can understand wat im talking about plz pm me or somethin asap

[moviemowdown]

Does progect preferences effect the final render?

[LimiTvBreaK]

@moviemowdown

some things do and some things don't. frame rate in project settings affects the preview window by which frame is displayed and where in the timeline is cut, rendering a different framerate than that of the project properties can cause the frames to be a little off on cut points if your switching clips frequebntly but is a small problem. otherwise Pixel Format is the only thing in project properties that carries over the final render settings.

[dontnou3]

hmm i figured this out only yesterday and i was so desperate because my videos were always blurry and i didn´t know why,so yeah after 3 months i finally figured it out

better late then never right?:p

so i have a question,i´ve been desperately trying to figure out a way to convert my PAL 50 fps gameplay videos to NTSC 59.64 and i just can´t figure it out,is it possible?

i heard about something called twixtor but i did some research and it only work on after effects plus you have to pay for it :(

[LimiTvBreaK]

@dontnou3

I barely messed with after effects. Twixtor will generate the between frames for each gap between the 50 to 59.94. thing is that different area's of the videos will need different settings so you wont be able to click a button and do an entire video. you will have to keyframe many points unless you want a few squishy frames.

This is based on what I know, never messed with twixtor yet

[dontnou3]

@LimiTvBreaK and sony vegas can´t do it?

[LimiTvBreaK]

@dontnou3

no. many of these after effects plugins work for adobe premier and apples final cut. but not vegas.

[dontnou3]

@LimiTvBreaK damn that sucks >-<

[JasiekBMX95]

you sound like KevJumba

[LimiTvBreaK]

@JasiekBMX95

somebody else said I sound like chris angel

[TobiiFTW]

when i disable resample my clip flickers any help ?

[LimiTvBreaK]

@TobiiFTW

one other person reported this issue to me, I don't know why it would happen from disabling the resample, but the glitch is like something that happens when the computer is too slow. what are your computers specs?

CPU/Processor

RAM

Video

Hard Drive

also try this, go into task manager, and set Vegas Pro and File I/O Surrogate to above normal.... these arent exact spellings as it might appear in task manager, but find what it is and set the priority higher.

[FXerGerFra]

Maybe just maybe people don't only cut for youtube.

Have you ever tought that someone would want to playback something on a NTSC DVD Palyer that obviously only does 25fps...

[LimiTvBreaK]

@FXerGerFra

it's youtube, I don't think it occurs to 95% of video makers that some people making youtube videos want them to work on their region DVD Players and TV's, even in the video I specifically stated that for Youtube Sake, main reason I acknowledge the subject is because countless Americans who use NTSC go on using PAL 25 thinking it's better for youtube.

[pcvideogamer]

Very good, thanks

[LordReserei01]

I've been using "Disable Resample" for a while for gaming vids or tutorials. I just think it looks a lot cleaner and more professional. Often rendering a video with no quality loss. Although, I usually render at 25FPS for the simple fact I back up a lot of my Youtube videos as playable DVD's and I'm in the UK which 25FPS is the PAL standard for DVD players/TV sets.

[M40A3Predator]

youtube prefers 25 fps or 24 fps

[LimiTvBreaK]

I cant get official info of youtubes conversion method, but I am sure they use the FPS you give them, I can record over a youtube video with fraps and get 59.940, all unique frames.

If i'm right, youtube compresses videos the same, regardless of fps.

so less frames means more bits per frame. and less frames means the monitor can more clearly refresh.

[OhMyAshes]

@M40A3Predator What settings do you render in? As in what do all the well-know Youtubers use for frame rate? Ive been using 30 or 60, and Ive had a few complaint about frame dropping

[LimiTvBreaK]

@OhMyAshes

Predator renders at 25 fps and leaves Resample enabled. even after I showed him this video. He does follow the Disable Resample step for Slow Motion clips atleast

.

Some people might prefer Resample on, I sure don't. as for frame rate. use 29.97 or 23.976 whenever editing from an NTSC Rate like the HD PVR as seen in this video. It is fact that 23.976 divides the frames smoother then 25 off of an NTSC rate and I can run examples for you

[OhMyAshes]

@LimiTvBreaK Ok well I render in MPEG 2 at 1280x720 for HD or 900x540 for HQ. I use sony vegas 9 and render everything in 29.970 frame rate. On my computer, all my videos look great, the quality and frame rate is fine. But on my friends computer it looks like its losing frame, or frame dropping. Any ideas?

[LimiTvBreaK]

I will send a PM

[OhMyAshes]

@LimiTvBreaK I should also mention that I always disable resample when I render....

[dilliot2k]

great tute, ive been wanting to kill this for years.

[RoadDogXVIII]

This was very useful. I've been trying to work on a video at 23.976, and I think this helps wonders. Good job.

[girotube]

Good tips Well said!

Now bring it down to 24fps and no blur.

How:

Use a 23.97 fps 3-2 pulldown and you will get clean frames. I don't have these video games but AVCHD from my Panasonic.

looks choppy on youtube but clean. Looks nice on the PC or Disc.

I got this by mistake using a light version of Vegas.. Studio 9 PE wich has no 24p setup for the video. I was shooting (720p 24fps with my AG-HMC150) Did a 1080p 23.97 3-2 pulldown preset and presto.

Take care.

[LimiTvBreaK]

if 24/23.97 is what the camera records by default than keep it. doing what my tutorial mentioned will keep the frames clean in case you fast forward or slow motion your recordings

As for editing game clips, it's like an entire community on youtube of gamers now, all editing for eachother and having community channels with top 5 plays etc. me being an editor I always find videos downsampled to 25 fps. got annoying. 25 and lower was not enough to cover the ghosting

[iTzKurby]

Whenever I record the raw file is always 59.940 FPS and I render it with the same FPS, should I still disable re-sampling?

[LimiTvBreaK]

If you render keeping the same fps, than it wont matter

when you fast forward or slow motion, the resample will matter. 59.940 is enough frames to look smooth regardless of what you leave it on. but it will render faster with re-sample off