@shoptothecaf You either have no interest in diesels or your knowledge is very limited.
Either way, you obviously have no care for environmental impact. Seeing something like this only hammers home why these things were scrapped. Its either a very badly worn/badly maintained unit but its definetly being over fuelled most probably caused by worn pump/injectors as is obvious by the huge amount of unburnt fuel being exhausted.
You may it boring but far more impressive would be a clean burn..
I've seen many trains in my life, but i've never seen a diesel train that was not diesel/electric... Diesel Engines powering electric wheel motors... I live in the US, is that the reason? Did we ever have non-diesel/electric? other than steam?
Superb video!! What a machine!!! Listen to that monster diese roar!!
If I were a passenger on that train, I would have my head out the window listening to the diesel chug, smelling the diesel,and watching the smoke blow the whole time!!!
you would have been as black coal had you been hanging out the window, the napier deltic engines expelled a lot of oil droplets in a very fine mist especially when the engines were under pressure.
Wow, what a unique sound these things have. Unfortunately, I am limited to lestening to them on my computer. There aren't any of these in the USA, or at least none I am aware of.
theirs so much smoke cus all of those engines are very old and not modern enough, and back in the 60's and 70's when these were made, people were not as aware of the damage the smoke was causing
hmm not sure. thinking about it, i at was bristol temple meads the other day and had a good hours wait for my train home and was at platform 13 one of the hst platforms, and even coming out of the supposed "environmentally friendly" MTU engine, their was thick black smoke coming from it on idle.
I recall seeing in an autobiographical work by RAF Air Vice-Marshal Sandy Johnstone the term 'clag' which in this case was extremely thick fog. The Scots have their own way of speaking HM English, God bless 'em! Too much smoke is bad PR for enthusiast organisations and operating museums. It indicates lack of maintenance and unhealthy operating practices. Two-stroke cycle plants are expecially prone to dirty exhaust, if not worked hard, and frequently. Doing so is npt always practicable.
pkrieter to answer your question yes clagging means smoke i think, and the engine your refering to is the deltic, it was basically the highspeed train of its day untill the Hst's came out, reason its got a high RPM is because its got 2 engines.
guilwarss, your loco's are cleaner than ours for only one reason, you have better diesel than in the u.k, your diesel is better refined than our crap. :-)
Amazing stuff, and F Off the politically correct with their carbon footprint bollox, and politically incorrect cars. Living in boxes? Erm, I think so...
This is preservation at its best, and no harm done by a bit of clag. Ironic though, that the smoke emission is at least that of a Black 5 en route from Rochdale to Auntie Manureiels (she lived by a farm) in Bolton!
ELR do a fine job for enthusiasts, pity the line doesn't rebuild the severed Rochdale and Bolton links.
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That isn´t normal. I am German and the older locomotives in German are MUCH cleaner than that shit. Should really ban! Maybe they´ve got character but why are the old locomotives in german (Br 232, V200 (DR or DB) MUCH cleaner than that? Can´t unterstand!
Well that Class 52 @ 1.35 is powered by a pair of German Maybach MD 655's... But in the main these are loco's on preserved lines which are life expired and kept running by dedicated enthusiasts. Some of the class 37's (the first one) are still in service and much cleaner, and the one @2.22 is an Italian Sulzer..
Having travelled behind over three hundred Br 232's, I can personally attest to the fact that some ARE as dirty as that, and that was indeed the lure :-)
Not shit, my inbred friend, but locomotives with character. BRITISH built not your GM/GE/EMD crap. Character - a word you'll sadly never understand. Boooooooooooooooo.
ooooh! Get you with your attitude! I'm literally shitting my pants. All hail german engineering (I've just got rid of an Audi A4 - it was fucking shit - German engineering, my arse!!)
Fuck me!! the Clag coming out of the class 52 !! better send it to Zontar for a spot O Radweld Treatment LOL
minbari001 1 month ago
Diesel loco fans 1, Environmentalists 0 lol
paulthetester 3 months ago
thumbs up if this gives environmentalists a well deserved boot in the balls!
thehoff1982 5 months ago
ooooo smoke i think im gona cum! lol
sjg746 5 months ago
Poor british crap.
jemas1312 6 months ago
that sound is immense! why do i like it so much!
rickmanranger 6 months ago
lol it thinks its a steam engine lawl!
deepskanker 7 months ago
That`s what I call Clagtastic! Love it! More Clag!
DoubleVisionandco 7 months ago
sultan was parked at truro for days when i was a boy on holiday.
mensamoo 7 months ago
0:26 to 1:02 now that`s what I call torque. Incredible. Never seen a train get up to speed that fast.
DoubleVisionandco 10 months ago
cleaner than steam :)
byronjamesbaillie 10 months ago
Very badly maintained or worn out engines here, clogged injectors etc. All the black soot and smoke is just unburnt fuel.
Draxindustries1 10 months ago
@Draxindustries1 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
shoptothecaf 2 months ago
@shoptothecaf You either have no interest in diesels or your knowledge is very limited.
Either way, you obviously have no care for environmental impact. Seeing something like this only hammers home why these things were scrapped. Its either a very badly worn/badly maintained unit but its definetly being over fuelled most probably caused by worn pump/injectors as is obvious by the huge amount of unburnt fuel being exhausted.
You may it boring but far more impressive would be a clean burn..
Draxindustries1 2 months ago
@Draxindustries1 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
shoptothecaf 2 months ago
would it be accurate to say that the harder the pull the cleaner the burn??? love this stuff.
bignaughtydog 11 months ago
Oh god! thats a pollution nightmere
Blocklandbrian498 1 year ago
@Blocklandbrian498 Good init!
shoptothecaf 2 months ago
oh you stinky bitch,
Galacticmaster 1 year ago
Hellfire! Sod the Environmentalists! More clag :)
craigybus1 1 year ago
I've seen many trains in my life, but i've never seen a diesel train that was not diesel/electric... Diesel Engines powering electric wheel motors... I live in the US, is that the reason? Did we ever have non-diesel/electric? other than steam?
theimaginator16 1 year ago
The Western Sultan clip is simply perfect.
Hanglands 1 year ago
Superb stuff, really enjoy your DVDs
TheRockinandrollin 1 year ago
Woohoo! ***Clagariffic!***
latte123 1 year ago
my wifes got claggs around her ringpiece.
666fannyfart 1 year ago 5
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daviddevall 1 year ago
The acceleration is unbelievable. the wheels on the loco at 1:38 seem to be huge...like 3 feet in diameter!
ROCKSTARCRANE 1 year ago
The first one sounds like a F4U corsair or a bomber starting up and idling
zztops08 1 year ago
HOPE IT RUNS OVER A TOYOTA PRIUS on level crossing.
JOJOBANANAZ1 2 years ago
I think it's unlikely, as the Toyota Prius will be accelerating suddenly out of the way.
:-)
newforestroadwarrior 2 years ago 3
Great locos. Sounds just like good sport car.
P.S. Greenpeace shit bricks.
TheMustangFighter 2 years ago 22
37,s rule
flixtonman 2 years ago
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All horrible machines. Steam locomotives were infinitely less polluting.
edj66 2 years ago
Wow! I just loved Western Sultan's contribution to the ozone layer at 1:37, THAT'S the way to accelerate . . .
bebajoro77 2 years ago 3
HUffffffff!
My lords!!!!!!!!!!
milepost326 2 years ago
I FOOKING LOVE CLAGG!
nuknuk007 2 years ago 4
Superb video!! What a machine!!! Listen to that monster diese roar!!
If I were a passenger on that train, I would have my head out the window listening to the diesel chug, smelling the diesel,and watching the smoke blow the whole time!!!
Amazing vid!
Xx69roadrunnerxX 2 years ago
you would have been as black coal had you been hanging out the window, the napier deltic engines expelled a lot of oil droplets in a very fine mist especially when the engines were under pressure.
24nov67 2 years ago
Even better!...not kidding.
Xx69roadrunnerxX 2 years ago
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the poor athmosphere.....what smoke...clearly the BIG producers of global warming
branzalito 2 years ago
And to think they called Steam Engines too dirty !
.. you gotta love the noises too.
nice footage
CARLOS62B 2 years ago
that lsat loco did a superb alco impression
burghill1979 2 years ago
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1madaboutguitar 2 years ago
Wow, what a unique sound these things have. Unfortunately, I am limited to lestening to them on my computer. There aren't any of these in the USA, or at least none I am aware of.
38Squid 2 years ago
Clagging = making lots of pollution?
Why so much smoke?
Why do the semaphores not operate?
robertgift 2 years ago
theirs so much smoke cus all of those engines are very old and not modern enough, and back in the 60's and 70's when these were made, people were not as aware of the damage the smoke was causing
BrambleH 2 years ago
I've worked on Diesels many years.
These seem to be emitting EXCESSIVE smoke.
Surely that is not normal for them.
How can their combustion be that bad?
robertgift 2 years ago
hmm not sure. thinking about it, i at was bristol temple meads the other day and had a good hours wait for my train home and was at platform 13 one of the hst platforms, and even coming out of the supposed "environmentally friendly" MTU engine, their was thick black smoke coming from it on idle.
BrambleH 2 years ago
oops just noticed ur from the US so u might not understand a singal english train term that i posted oops soz.
BrambleH 2 years ago
@robertgift
no smoke no poke! lol
nuknuk007 2 years ago
its not exsessive in the world of BRITISH BRUTE FORCE AND EGINEERING
05clenharth 2 years ago
Clagging comes from the aviation world, it means thick cloud.
RichyFriend 2 years ago
what is Clagging? this video does not explain it
mrgmyers 2 years ago
i beleive that clagging is when the engines are burning too much oil. but dont quote me on that..
BrambleH 2 years ago
notice at the beginning the engine lists whenever it clags.
WhyAyeMann 2 years ago
i wish they had those here in the USA
jeep27190 2 years ago
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the earth is goin to die because of uk trains
TEMPLE7D 2 years ago
Yer but what a way to go!
1madaboutguitar 2 years ago
maybe, but they are still magnificent
Shahidnabibullah 2 years ago
but still everythings going to die cause of that
TEMPLE7D 2 years ago
The sight , the sound , the smell of diesel ... awesome
louiseme 2 years ago 4
thats one I'm going to have to buy!
samhirst87 2 years ago
HAD NO IDEA THOSE TYPE WAS STILL IN USE?
Conservativepacheat 2 years ago
dont tell al gore!!!!!!!
777worldliner 2 years ago
I recall seeing in an autobiographical work by RAF Air Vice-Marshal Sandy Johnstone the term 'clag' which in this case was extremely thick fog. The Scots have their own way of speaking HM English, God bless 'em! Too much smoke is bad PR for enthusiast organisations and operating museums. It indicates lack of maintenance and unhealthy operating practices. Two-stroke cycle plants are expecially prone to dirty exhaust, if not worked hard, and frequently. Doing so is npt always practicable.
schreiber0248 2 years ago
the engine at 0.29, is that clagging? sounds a bit too smooth
badbob1983 2 years ago
That's a class 55 deltic. they had twin two stroke opposed piston engines. clag was par for the course with these, they did it even in good condition
mrspivvy 2 years ago
What exactly is clag? Just curious as i can remember clag from the old HSTs
slr0084 2 years ago
Unburnt fuel or oil.
Forevagrey 2 years ago
pkrieter to answer your question yes clagging means smoke i think, and the engine your refering to is the deltic, it was basically the highspeed train of its day untill the Hst's came out, reason its got a high RPM is because its got 2 engines.
lovely engine to drive i might add.
spodface12 2 years ago
No, it sounds like high RPM, because it's a 2 stroke (makes power twice as often)
smiffy1071 2 years ago
That second one had a very high RPM. Are they small engines? Also does clagging mean smoking? I've never heard that term before. ( I'm american)
Nice video by the way.
pkrieter 2 years ago
When the "deltic" loco was introduced, it was by far the most powerfull diesel loco in the world, at 3,300hp. it has 2x18 cylinder 2 stroke engines.
Check out the YT video called "deltic locomotive diesel engine moving parts"
to see a really cool animation
smiffy1071 2 years ago
Deltic sounds ace!!!
09razzer 2 years ago
thats what i like to see, lots of thick smoke, more so with that western :D
mac550 2 years ago
I love the Rat on the corrugated track 8-p
lewisner 2 years ago
!!!!!
Those trains are looks like steams!!!
timh97sg1 2 years ago
1.30 - 1.44
tuptontrainspotter 2 years ago
Great clip of the 'thousand'
mekydro 3 years ago
They sound like Alco's.
KSE828 3 years ago 3
Nice claggings and engines...
SONBoomer 3 years ago
Whats clagging?
KSE828 3 years ago
I think it's a railway enthusiast term meaning that the exhaust billows out lots of smoke on startup/under application of power.
What's this loco's number?
volvomantom 3 years ago
Similar to: - Spluttering,
- Blistering, - motor choking...
... and lots of other sound and view effects of diesel engines...
SONBoomer 3 years ago
CLAG!!!!!!!!=P 5 * Fave!!
Danny
MerseyrailMad 3 years ago
Dont let environment lovers see this! 5* + fave
merseyrail508124 3 years ago
well i would hope we all loved our environment......its what keeps us alive.
1085oliverda 3 years ago
ha.. well lets see the american talking this is nothing compared to a lot more harmful stuff
MrAnnonumous 2 years ago
i'd rather run these beasts and die in 20 years than leave them to rust and live for another 80
UBIQUEROL 2 years ago 4
Cool Clagg
mikesndbs 3 years ago
Wel thats a deisel for you
RPSI1718541864613BG 3 years ago
Heres a vid ive put up of some CLAG at ELR!
type2thrash 3 years ago
Clagtastic!
porter6669196327 3 years ago 2
I don't think the white smoke is a good sign...
Yownanymous 3 years ago
White smoke is a good sign. Black smoke isn't. When the smoke is white, most of the fuel is evaporated.
Sandervg14 3 years ago
no black smoke is good fuel overloaded white= loss of power
peterbiltexd 3 years ago
1:46 Stop Look Listen small print says but for god's sake don't breath in lol
BigChris1998 3 years ago
Carry on Clagging 3 will be released on 13 September 2008.
visionsinternational 3 years ago
As a non spotter but a lover of all trains whats this term "clagging" can any one explain to me ...??
Bevoin1970 3 years ago
It's a term used for all the muck coming out the roof.
visionsinternational 3 years ago
@Bevoin1970 All the diesel smoke i guess. The Alco locomotives that still run here in the U.S. do the same thing.
greywolf45 5 months ago
Love the sound of the Class 37 starting up. It reminds me of an ALCO 244.
AODProds 3 years ago
The Deltic and the Western looked like they had crack stuffed in their engines as they were very smokey!
GreatWestern175 3 years ago
Sulzers are class 25,33 i think 37?
Jimmykwango 3 years ago
37 is an EE, but 25s and 33s are Sulzers, along with the 47 & peaks.
cmeonthemove 3 years ago
and 26/27s
D335Media 3 years ago
That Whizzo is the best thing in the world ever!.
gaz318 3 years ago
Sweet - I'm coming over to the UK in July..any of you boys recommend a good days vintage diesel or steam watching??..cheers all
spottydog4472 3 years ago
lol jesus wept......and so did i...
voidy777 3 years ago
the deltic sounded like a cross between a EMD and a Kenworth.
AWESOME!
ronthecyborg 3 years ago
Do these locos have Sulzer diesels?
huettmr 3 years ago
Is the 1st 1 a 37 at the Glous. Warks. Rly?
Loved the shots of the Western and 33!
JBTEvans 4 years ago
classic deltidc sounds brilliant 5 star
thebobster1995 4 years ago
I'll fly in from America to see this in person.
Damn the inflationary US currency for making travel so difficult.
gguru1 4 years ago 2
I just cant stop watching this video. I have watched it about 20 times now. I love that sound of start up !
KMRagan 4 years ago 5
It sends shivers down my spine!
2GUNBOY 4 years ago
Totally cool. Sounds a lot like my Harley when it starts up.
KMRagan 4 years ago 5
Awesome!! :)
Kyosuke1989 4 years ago 2
even though i live in the us. those brit trains sound good.
gslice2120 4 years ago 4
I LOVE those 37s!!! They make the best noise!
IntercityAPT 4 years ago 2
Fantastic!!! I'm off to buy the DVD!
philquine 4 years ago 2
driven it in 1973 i love all those deltics. forget the sand jaust ind open the controler (wakefield station is the worst for wheel spin )
KEITHDEANO 4 years ago
thats awesome, one of the only things i didnt like about this one is the horn, I think they should use some k5la's!!!
skarkot 4 years ago 2
Awesome big diesel locomotives!!!!!!!
dutchtrainmanserie22 4 years ago 2
that 55 sounded beautiful!! it looked like one engine was worse than the other for the clag!
Sephy69 4 years ago
lovely bit of 33 thrash, hurrah for the crompton footprint
stationendproduction 4 years ago
Nice, I love diesellocomotieves, This are nice British Locomotieves. The Dutch 2200 series are to very cool!
nielsjoh 4 years ago
holy shit! those diesel's look like they have a part of a steam train in it (the smoke)
runawayfreak 4 years ago
hellfire!!
penzancedieselboy 4 years ago
Wow that 37 was a fucking beast,she must have thought she was an A4 Pacific!
atrudubliner 4 years ago
guilwarss, your loco's are cleaner than ours for only one reason, you have better diesel than in the u.k, your diesel is better refined than our crap. :-)
shortyman687 4 years ago
Amazing stuff, and F Off the politically correct with their carbon footprint bollox, and politically incorrect cars. Living in boxes? Erm, I think so...
This is preservation at its best, and no harm done by a bit of clag. Ironic though, that the smoke emission is at least that of a Black 5 en route from Rochdale to Auntie Manureiels (she lived by a farm) in Bolton!
ELR do a fine job for enthusiasts, pity the line doesn't rebuild the severed Rochdale and Bolton links.
islandtraction 4 years ago
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That isn´t normal. I am German and the older locomotives in German are MUCH cleaner than that shit. Should really ban! Maybe they´ve got character but why are the old locomotives in german (Br 232, V200 (DR or DB) MUCH cleaner than that? Can´t unterstand!
guilwarss 4 years ago
Well that Class 52 @ 1.35 is powered by a pair of German Maybach MD 655's... But in the main these are loco's on preserved lines which are life expired and kept running by dedicated enthusiasts. Some of the class 37's (the first one) are still in service and much cleaner, and the one @2.22 is an Italian Sulzer..
starstorm55522 4 years ago
Having travelled behind over three hundred Br 232's, I can personally attest to the fact that some ARE as dirty as that, and that was indeed the lure :-)
clagfest 4 years ago
1:42 i thought smoking was banned at stations
mststv 4 years ago
Growler with the shits !
diddydeltic 4 years ago
I am an American who grew up in Britain. British diesel-electric locomotives are the BEST!
Britishrailer 4 years ago 2
The Class 55 and 52 have gotta be mt favourites
ryskinner 4 years ago
Oh well excuse us for being British then, all those that think english locomotives are crap.
And whose country is it that is one of the top 3 polluters and are doing bugger all about it?
USA-thought so!
So stop with the making good old english loco's look rubbish and stick with your bleeding other rubbish.
Finally, good video 5/5!
Leetrainz 4 years ago
Holy smoke!!
ryskinner 4 years ago 2
no clag lol
mststv 4 years ago
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Damn english locos..some are cool, but still, american and the ones from europe rock!
Kuidmaster 4 years ago
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Let's calculate this vehicle's carbon footprint.
JohnGBUK 4 years ago
5/5
gner125 4 years ago
best of the brittish!
pistonfire182 4 years ago
Those EE Class 37's sound absolutely amazing! Now, that is what i call British engineering at its finest!
2GUNBOY 4 years ago
Not shit, my inbred friend, but locomotives with character. BRITISH built not your GM/GE/EMD crap. Character - a word you'll sadly never understand. Boooooooooooooooo.
PrentonPimp 4 years ago
that thing is a total peice of shit. and im german you retard. nothing compares to german engineering. that thing is a total piece of shit
78f2504x4 4 years ago
ooooh! Get you with your attitude! I'm literally shitting my pants. All hail german engineering (I've just got rid of an Audi A4 - it was fucking shit - German engineering, my arse!!)
PrentonPimp 4 years ago 2
Well MTUs are heaps of shite so unless you can replace a paxman valentas scream to redeem yourself I'm not conviced!
madplanefan 4 years ago
That smoke is killing our kids!
Excellent! keep up the good work!
tpvalley 4 years ago 2
and in the future our children will look back at what wiped out the human race (an over-enthusiastic driver that had been told he's loco clagged)
lol
stationendproduction 4 years ago
I bloody hate kids anyway, har!
tpvalley 4 years ago
thought this was well good,I must get the video
stig01bikes 4 years ago
you cant beat that!
PBR14akaAdam 4 years ago
Pure hellfire! Can't wait to get hold a copy sometime soon. Cheers visionsinternational.
theamateurbasher 4 years ago