It seems he knew he was gonna throw the kick before the other guy did the counter strike nice set because a step through side is hard to pull off without a set up.
This shows just how unrealistic karate point sparring is. The guy is actually going down on one knee to throw a straight punch to the body to get a point and we all saw how he just put his face in the way of the incoming kick. Going low like that to punch is fatal in MMA or a real fight as it makes you really easy to kick, grab etc. and throwing a straight body punch like that is not effective in a real fight either. If it were you´d see boxers, kickboxers and MMA fighters doing it.
@rokkvi1 Going down to get the point is fatal outside karate tournaments, true, just as fatal as many boxing dogging techniques or a BJJ guy on the floor without protecting his head from shots because punches are illegal. Every sport has its unrealistic ways to get points. But I can tell you that obiously, none karateka will be so stupid for throwing this punch outside of a tournament. Now ask Lyoto Machida how "unrealistic" are the other basic punches of karate...
@Sheik06 I agree that individual sports like karate, tkd, judo, bjj, boxing etc. have practices that are not good in a real fight. But I kind of tire of people cherrypicking Machida as an example of karate being effective in MMA and real fights. There aren´t many fighters who have been able to successfully use karate in MMA compared to how many have used Muay Thai and boxing.
@rokkvi1 Agree. And that's because in fact boxing and wrestling arts are easier and faster to learn because of the sparring methods they use (I practice both karate and boxing, and I have also trained judo with the best instructor of my state). However, at long term karate can be a very superior art because its variety of techniques and knowledge. There are many things that you will ONLY learn in karate and nowhere else. And you like it or not, most of machida's techniques are pure karate.
Watch from 0:35 in this video: youtube(dot)com/watch?v=SDlJlkm92w8
This is full contact Karate. The guy uses it as a counter to a head punch, goes straight for the groin. The guy in this video was lured in by a fake jab and hence got kicked in the face. It's not a poor technique, he's just a poor fighter.
@rokkvi1 By the way, you "tire of people cherrypicking Machida as an example of karate being effective in MMA", well many of us get tired also of people who say MMA is the ultimate thing because they washed their brain with marketing of the UFC and begin insulting other sports... poor people who practice MMA and believe they are Ultimate fighters when in reality they are like Max Cooperman in "never back down" movie, pure wannabe's getting their asses kicked when they face a real street fight.
@Sheik06 i agree with u man i train in kenpo karate and most of the stuff i learn wouldn't be allowed in mma because it is a street fighting style where u poke them in the eyes and kick them in the groin and i know that i wouldn't use the technique exactly as i learnt it but i would use parts of them to help me out in the street not in the cage
@Sheik06 well if people thing a good MMA fighter can beat any number of opponents on the street or take on armed opponents etc. they are delusional. MMA is still superior to any other martial arts training for unarmed street fights. There is also plenty of stuff in Gracie Jiu Jitsu that´s designed for the streets and not for competition. The magical tricks many traditional martial arts teach for street fighting won´t work in reality, at least not on their own.
@Sheik06 and with Machida, he´s a very rare example of someone making karate work in MMA, so I tired of people using him to say how well karate works in MMA. It´s also not like Machida is doing katas og karate point sparring to prepare for MMA fights. He´s sparring with people who are using boxing, muay-thai, wrestling and bjj. It´s not like he hasn´t ever touched on boxing and muay-thai. I´m not saying karate is completely useless only that some of karate is useless in real fights.
@rokkvi1 Theres been a ton of karate practitioners who have been successful in mma.The casual fan only generally recognizes machida so they use that as an example of karate being used as a format even though there have been many karate before him. also even though he does kata its not like doing a small piece of karate training determines whether you are legit or not
@catkong7 yes but most of them don´t use karate when they fight. Sure a lot of fighters originally did karate or tae kwon do before going into MMA but very few train in karate or tae kwon do in order to prepare for fights or use techniques that are specifically from karate or tkd in their fights. Usually fighters train in Muay Thai, boxing or kickboxing for their standup and bjj, wrestling, sambo or judo for their grappling.
@rokkvi1 yes they do you are just expecting to see fantasy fu instead of the actual art.Every style is going to look similar to kickboxing because that is how the human body natural moves.
Running around fighting like jet li isnt how karate is supposed to be and is far removed from reality.To use lyoto for an example ,again what part of what he does striking wise isnt karate? you can see reverse punches, knees kicks, elbows ,everything that is in the Shotokan repertoire.
@catkong7 I already said I was tired of people cherrypicking Machida as an example. He´s a very rare example of a fighter who uses karate effectively in MMA. And to answer, you NO THEY DON´T. Bas Rutten didn´t train TKD or Karate to prepare for MMA fights, nor does Ste. Pierre or most of the karate/tkd trained fighers in MMA. The point sparring in karate and tkd is far removed from what you need to do to train for MMA, let alone the kata/poomse training.
@rokkvi1 actually you are incorrect bas style he used during his career was still heavily influenced by Kk karate. He even said he kept up his kata training during his fighting career. Also point sparring is a relatively new rule set in karate so refraining from doing it again doesnt mean someone isnt doing karate, Your straw man arguments dont work very well.
@catkong7 I doubt you even know what a straw man argument is but I´d be delighted to hear how any of my arguments is one. Look up "straw man argument" first though, to make sure you grasp the concept. There are plenty of techniques in karate and tkd that are also present in kickboxing/muay thai, so sure, you can say they are still doing karate. Also, the occasional karate/tkd specific technique will work in MMA. My point is, hardly any MMA fighter bases their striking on karate.
@rokkvi1 theres a ton of techniques that are found in both karate and kickboxing, There are only so many ways to punch and kick after all therefore you will see cross over techniques often. because you see this cross over this is why so many people think this move or that move isnt karate because it looks like "kickboxing" and its rare for there to be a karate or tkd specific technique
@catkong7 well a lot of techniques from traditional karate styles and tkd are pretty useless in MMA or real fights and not found in kickboxing although they may be found between different TMAs. Most of the blocks for example. Punching from the hip is also not good in real fights. A lot of the backfists in karate/tkd are not properly done and very different from the backfists you see in MMA/K-1. Many of the kicks in TKD are almost impssible to pull off in MMA as well.
@rokkvi1 the problem with the blocks is is many cases they werent blocks lol the high rising block for example was supposed to be a fore arm strike when fighting in close but many dont practice it that way any more, further punching from the waist was only suppose to be done in kata .
i do agree that some of the more colorful kicks of tkd arent very realistic for any type of fighting but it seems they were used for more for entertainment purposes than combat
@catkong7 I think many of them were probably done for entertainment purposes or just "showing off". Some of the flashy tkd kicks work every once in a while in tkd competition but hardly ever in kickboxing and pretty much never in MMA. Whatever the blocks were created for, most of them are a waste of time to practice today. If you watch the Martial arts episode of Penn and Teller´s "Bullshit" you´ll see so many BS moves in the karate they show there that it´s sad. Both strikes and blocks.
@catkong7 I actually just watched a highlight video of Machida and it included him throwing a lead hook. That´s a boxing punch, not found in Karate, so you FAIL. watch?v=A5gYuCAgvV4
and cross training doesnt lessen the styles effectiveness. Its mma so everyone must cross train. It doesnt devalue karate just as it doesnt devalue bjj, Mt or wrestling
@catkong7 yes but pretty much any MMA coach or fighter will recommend you to train in Muay Thai/boxing/kickboxing for MMA fights rather than train karate/tkd/kungfu. It may not hurt you to train those but time is better spent in the full contact, realistic, striking arts. If someone wanted to get into MMA, would you recommend that person to train karate? I sure would not.
@rokkvi1 uh and kyokushin karate and other arts like san shou are not full contact and realistic? LOL Having actually pursued a fighting career before my health barred me from competing i can say that the coaches didnt discourage my karate as it was a full contact system.And yes if a knock down style of karate training is available i would encourage someone to take it. as the conditioning said styles produce is amazing and they have produced countless k-1 champs
@catkong7 I apologize for overlooking kyokushin karate, which is indeed full contact and very effective, although it suffers from the incompleteness of not allowing head punches in competition. I was talking about traditional karate styles and should have mentioned that kyokushin is an exception.
@theblackpopefromhell mr. t pities the fool that doesn't equate reaction time, ability to read the opponent, and the fact that repetition of a movement is memorized by muscles causing explosive and quick movements. that fool telographed like it's the 1800's and now got a bad case of athlete's face. I pity that fool an ass whomping lies around the next bend.
it is one of the most basic fakes becaues it is so effective. When you got a jab coming at your face, you just don't see the kick coming (at least not if he folds right). Against a jab-sidekick, pretty much the only way to actually counter it is to use footwork. In this match the defender tried to counter the technique with a cross and payed for it.
Don't underestimate the jab-sidekick. It is an extremely effective combo even against experts
@Mistabutts I'm not bragging about myself, i'm just saying there is a reason they get ko'd. look at their hands, they are so low. the only way karate would help you win a fight is if the other person was completly incompatent in fighting. ir they were kind enough to not hit you in the face, and keep their hands low incase u dedcided to throw a head kick. i'm in a sparring video here. search "sparring moments" its the 1st one u come 2. lemme kno what u think.
@Mistabutts watch?v=GbGuHB39ZOU here is the link i told u to check out... let me know what u think. like i said i'm not a high calaber fighter by any means, i'm just saying i see TKD and karate guys get ko'd w/ a kick to the face all the time here but its cuz their hands are guarding their nipples. i sparred a national champ in karate (points karate that is) and it actually quite ez to hit him int he face since his hands were down, he was quick but u can only block so many in a combo ya know?
not bad. And that is an important weakness of many Karate fighters: not keeping the hands up
I will say that you guys are just as susceptible to the same technique (jab-sidekick) as a Karate guy except you would get your body pummeled instead of your head. Trust me, I've seen tough guys who kept their hands up lose to front-leg sidekicks to the body. It is extremely powerful and you don't see it coming if it is done properly (as in this video)
why is this illegal? ... the use of heel which is damaging rather than the slap of foot or because of the placement of the kick on the opponents body? or C other... great kick anyway!
Beautiful side-kick, executed nicely. The kicker stayed in perfect balance too - the back foot didn't even leave it's position until the other leg came back to meet it. Very nice.
He kneeled to perform a right cross kneeling punch and paid the price for trying to use that without any guard or moving to the side. Not only is a kneeling puch a slow cumbersome move but he actually helped his opponent by thrusting forward into a taller opponent compounding the counter kick's opposing force. In my opinion the flaw lies in that he anticipated or at least moved in without a strategy.
@McClinchey09 when you are on a team kumite the weights will be completely different. If not its mattering your age.... Weight for 14/15 is usually under 53kg, under 57kg, under 63 kg, under 70 kg and over 70 kg. As you can see they split it up quite well. This is WKF one of the types of federations.
@eulero75 The "counter fighter" had no business there. If you're going to rely on a weak tag playing gyaku-zuki with your guard down, then you deserve a beating. All he did was make the Attacker look good. The funny thing is that the kick was telegraphed poorly against someone experienced...the lead/set-up kizame wasn't focused & he had both feet too close together on the drive;sweep bait. A true fighter would Attack his Attack. I'll compete against that kick anyday. ikakarate. com
@lionheart10010 The kick was certainly telegraphed, but the puncher had already eaten the fake and committed to his kneeling attack. It's easy to look at the tape and say "oh here comes a kick" but a smart fighter might not have tried to anticipate as this guy did.
No disrespect intended, but are you quick enough to recognize the lazy punch, and then sweep before he gets his kicking foot off the ground?
Would that sweep not require anticipation on your part?
I don't get how that move was illegal that looked like it should be more legal then jump kick video i saw on here.. at least this one didn't threaten to kill the guy
@NapiurPictures shut up....if you dont know what your talking about why even waste your time typing to make yourself appear to be an idiot? It is a side kick.
I don't know how karate competitions work but it seems your almost a whole foot taller than other people. How do weight classes work? Another great video bro.
This was a men's team events. 5 matches from varying weight classes with random match up's on the day, hence the big difference in sizes. Thx for the comment.
Didn't look DQ-worthy to me, but this is coming from the guy who was DQ'd in a match when my opponent bull-rushed me from six feet out and ran face-first into an extended kick, that I put absolutley NO power in, other than what he gave me. Black belt division in TKD, and guys are charging you, and winning because they run into your feet? Point sparring, no matter what style, irritates me at times. (He didn't look like a winner afterwards though, I tell ya.)
@rckola2003 la just in TKD is the way to go. I won Jr Olympics the last 2 years because the system. Its a chest guard that thats electronic and whenever the special foot guard hits it, the point shows up.
side kick is the most efficient way to get a point, if you're not fighting someone who can quickly sidestep you. it's a good tactic against big, slow opponents.
the fallen fighter should block that kick with 2 arms moving from right to left. Then tackle him to the floor kicking first his right leg and then the tackle to the floor.
@calito0010 ... its also about watching the video and not tryina sound like u no everything reflexion wtf is that he jus got kickd in the face can u not just leave it at that?
the fights don't last long and are much more dangerous if you can punch to the face, you want UFC not martial arts, this is not lame this is different
WOW THAT WAS FLAWLESS FORM! the punch didnt do anything it just got the guy more smashed cause he didn't have his hand in front of his face lol. if i wasnt on a stage platform id say roll or kartwhell instead of taking the ground but hes done
the red guys stance also allows him to take more damage, there's a saying in hand to hand combat that goes like this: " let your fists do the damage and your feet take them"
But, you got to notice one thing, the red dude attacked the blue or black belt's higher mass, above the chest, which is only about a third of the weight of the blue/black belt's body. The blue/black guy went for the middle mass of the red guy, which carries the entire weight of his body. It's too much weight coming his direction and for a punch to take.
awsome the the guy went low because the other guy fainted with Kizami zuki and then when the Yoko geri came in hit him in the face even tho it was meant for the stomach maybe high chest! exellent technique tho
Just curious. Was the kick orginally meant for the mid-section and ended up hitting the head, because the other person moved down, or was the kick aimed at the head and the target was picked after the punch was thrown?
We should have full-contact rules for shiai karate. I bet the minute we do the kyokushin guys would not be so bragant in their comments about been the toughess karate.The WKF should allowed full-contact like WTF TKD is just a matter of using a helmet & a chest protector that's all. I bet that even TKD won't even be so cocky anymore
and this is the case where i never got the point of this strike in tournaments. knee to the ground and reverse punch, lowering your body......that would be nice as a defense move for a high attack..but never never as an offensive move cause...this is what happens...a knee to the head is also a posibility...nice yop chagie by the way .
Another example of a stupid way to run a 'sport.' Get gloves and a helmet if you're going to have that kind of contact. There's no reason to get crippled practicing a sport in the f-ing 21st century.
Last year after it was approve to wear a helmet the WKF came in and said that in th adult div. no helmets were going to be used...As a way to prevent full-contact situations like this one.I think they should stop fooling themselves and proceed into either full-contact or semi-contact like the JKA or the WTF tkd,more protection and full-contact,but maintaining the charateristics of shiai,we don't want to become I.K.O.either
nice fake out :)
greenryanpurplebekka 3 months ago
I want to see that in MMA :D
What does it mean by Karate Counter FighteR?
XiaoLinLong 6 months ago
This is an prohibited attack, that kick made an excessive contact and it aimed directly to his opponent's throat. He might got an hansoku.
vt8victory 6 months ago
It seems he knew he was gonna throw the kick before the other guy did the counter strike nice set because a step through side is hard to pull off without a set up.
jaffar1808 6 months ago
Humm ill try that in sparring tonight :o)
jaffar1808 6 months ago
Bruce Lee loved that technique.. his opponents are so intimidated by his jabs that they never saw the side kick coming
darthclone7 7 months ago
Side kicks ARE KARATE AND TKD :D Especially from a linear stance=Shotokan and TKD :P
wiggalama 9 months ago
This shows just how unrealistic karate point sparring is. The guy is actually going down on one knee to throw a straight punch to the body to get a point and we all saw how he just put his face in the way of the incoming kick. Going low like that to punch is fatal in MMA or a real fight as it makes you really easy to kick, grab etc. and throwing a straight body punch like that is not effective in a real fight either. If it were you´d see boxers, kickboxers and MMA fighters doing it.
rokkvi1 9 months ago
@rokkvi1 Going down to get the point is fatal outside karate tournaments, true, just as fatal as many boxing dogging techniques or a BJJ guy on the floor without protecting his head from shots because punches are illegal. Every sport has its unrealistic ways to get points. But I can tell you that obiously, none karateka will be so stupid for throwing this punch outside of a tournament. Now ask Lyoto Machida how "unrealistic" are the other basic punches of karate...
Sheik06 9 months ago
@Sheik06 I agree that individual sports like karate, tkd, judo, bjj, boxing etc. have practices that are not good in a real fight. But I kind of tire of people cherrypicking Machida as an example of karate being effective in MMA and real fights. There aren´t many fighters who have been able to successfully use karate in MMA compared to how many have used Muay Thai and boxing.
rokkvi1 9 months ago
@rokkvi1 Agree. And that's because in fact boxing and wrestling arts are easier and faster to learn because of the sparring methods they use (I practice both karate and boxing, and I have also trained judo with the best instructor of my state). However, at long term karate can be a very superior art because its variety of techniques and knowledge. There are many things that you will ONLY learn in karate and nowhere else. And you like it or not, most of machida's techniques are pure karate.
Sheik06 6 months ago
@rokkvi1
Watch from 0:35 in this video: youtube(dot)com/watch?v=SDlJlkm92w8
This is full contact Karate. The guy uses it as a counter to a head punch, goes straight for the groin. The guy in this video was lured in by a fake jab and hence got kicked in the face. It's not a poor technique, he's just a poor fighter.
Woolfrey 7 months ago
@rokkvi1 By the way, you "tire of people cherrypicking Machida as an example of karate being effective in MMA", well many of us get tired also of people who say MMA is the ultimate thing because they washed their brain with marketing of the UFC and begin insulting other sports... poor people who practice MMA and believe they are Ultimate fighters when in reality they are like Max Cooperman in "never back down" movie, pure wannabe's getting their asses kicked when they face a real street fight.
Sheik06 6 months ago
@Sheik06 i agree with u man i train in kenpo karate and most of the stuff i learn wouldn't be allowed in mma because it is a street fighting style where u poke them in the eyes and kick them in the groin and i know that i wouldn't use the technique exactly as i learnt it but i would use parts of them to help me out in the street not in the cage
jacklewis1231 6 months ago
@Sheik06 well if people thing a good MMA fighter can beat any number of opponents on the street or take on armed opponents etc. they are delusional. MMA is still superior to any other martial arts training for unarmed street fights. There is also plenty of stuff in Gracie Jiu Jitsu that´s designed for the streets and not for competition. The magical tricks many traditional martial arts teach for street fighting won´t work in reality, at least not on their own.
rokkvi1 6 months ago
@Sheik06 and with Machida, he´s a very rare example of someone making karate work in MMA, so I tired of people using him to say how well karate works in MMA. It´s also not like Machida is doing katas og karate point sparring to prepare for MMA fights. He´s sparring with people who are using boxing, muay-thai, wrestling and bjj. It´s not like he hasn´t ever touched on boxing and muay-thai. I´m not saying karate is completely useless only that some of karate is useless in real fights.
rokkvi1 6 months ago
@rokkvi1 Theres been a ton of karate practitioners who have been successful in mma.The casual fan only generally recognizes machida so they use that as an example of karate being used as a format even though there have been many karate before him. also even though he does kata its not like doing a small piece of karate training determines whether you are legit or not
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 yes but most of them don´t use karate when they fight. Sure a lot of fighters originally did karate or tae kwon do before going into MMA but very few train in karate or tae kwon do in order to prepare for fights or use techniques that are specifically from karate or tkd in their fights. Usually fighters train in Muay Thai, boxing or kickboxing for their standup and bjj, wrestling, sambo or judo for their grappling.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@rokkvi1 yes they do you are just expecting to see fantasy fu instead of the actual art.Every style is going to look similar to kickboxing because that is how the human body natural moves.
Running around fighting like jet li isnt how karate is supposed to be and is far removed from reality.To use lyoto for an example ,again what part of what he does striking wise isnt karate? you can see reverse punches, knees kicks, elbows ,everything that is in the Shotokan repertoire.
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 I already said I was tired of people cherrypicking Machida as an example. He´s a very rare example of a fighter who uses karate effectively in MMA. And to answer, you NO THEY DON´T. Bas Rutten didn´t train TKD or Karate to prepare for MMA fights, nor does Ste. Pierre or most of the karate/tkd trained fighers in MMA. The point sparring in karate and tkd is far removed from what you need to do to train for MMA, let alone the kata/poomse training.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@rokkvi1 actually you are incorrect bas style he used during his career was still heavily influenced by Kk karate. He even said he kept up his kata training during his fighting career. Also point sparring is a relatively new rule set in karate so refraining from doing it again doesnt mean someone isnt doing karate, Your straw man arguments dont work very well.
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 I doubt you even know what a straw man argument is but I´d be delighted to hear how any of my arguments is one. Look up "straw man argument" first though, to make sure you grasp the concept. There are plenty of techniques in karate and tkd that are also present in kickboxing/muay thai, so sure, you can say they are still doing karate. Also, the occasional karate/tkd specific technique will work in MMA. My point is, hardly any MMA fighter bases their striking on karate.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@rokkvi1 theres a ton of techniques that are found in both karate and kickboxing, There are only so many ways to punch and kick after all therefore you will see cross over techniques often. because you see this cross over this is why so many people think this move or that move isnt karate because it looks like "kickboxing" and its rare for there to be a karate or tkd specific technique
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 well a lot of techniques from traditional karate styles and tkd are pretty useless in MMA or real fights and not found in kickboxing although they may be found between different TMAs. Most of the blocks for example. Punching from the hip is also not good in real fights. A lot of the backfists in karate/tkd are not properly done and very different from the backfists you see in MMA/K-1. Many of the kicks in TKD are almost impssible to pull off in MMA as well.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@rokkvi1 the problem with the blocks is is many cases they werent blocks lol the high rising block for example was supposed to be a fore arm strike when fighting in close but many dont practice it that way any more, further punching from the waist was only suppose to be done in kata .
i do agree that some of the more colorful kicks of tkd arent very realistic for any type of fighting but it seems they were used for more for entertainment purposes than combat
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 I think many of them were probably done for entertainment purposes or just "showing off". Some of the flashy tkd kicks work every once in a while in tkd competition but hardly ever in kickboxing and pretty much never in MMA. Whatever the blocks were created for, most of them are a waste of time to practice today. If you watch the Martial arts episode of Penn and Teller´s "Bullshit" you´ll see so many BS moves in the karate they show there that it´s sad. Both strikes and blocks.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@catkong7 I actually just watched a highlight video of Machida and it included him throwing a lead hook. That´s a boxing punch, not found in Karate, so you FAIL. watch?v=A5gYuCAgvV4
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@rokkvi1 uh no "kagi zuki" is the hook punch in karate it is preformed with the lead or back hand lol sorry try again
catkong7 4 months ago
and cross training doesnt lessen the styles effectiveness. Its mma so everyone must cross train. It doesnt devalue karate just as it doesnt devalue bjj, Mt or wrestling
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 yes but pretty much any MMA coach or fighter will recommend you to train in Muay Thai/boxing/kickboxing for MMA fights rather than train karate/tkd/kungfu. It may not hurt you to train those but time is better spent in the full contact, realistic, striking arts. If someone wanted to get into MMA, would you recommend that person to train karate? I sure would not.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
@rokkvi1 uh and kyokushin karate and other arts like san shou are not full contact and realistic? LOL Having actually pursued a fighting career before my health barred me from competing i can say that the coaches didnt discourage my karate as it was a full contact system.And yes if a knock down style of karate training is available i would encourage someone to take it. as the conditioning said styles produce is amazing and they have produced countless k-1 champs
catkong7 4 months ago
@catkong7 I apologize for overlooking kyokushin karate, which is indeed full contact and very effective, although it suffers from the incompleteness of not allowing head punches in competition. I was talking about traditional karate styles and should have mentioned that kyokushin is an exception.
rokkvi1 4 months ago
Just BEAUTIFUL
chrisnealson 10 months ago
That was a good ol fashion shawn michaels super kick!
ReetardTV 10 months ago
i've watched 3 video's today of knockouts
on both 3 video's wer litle kids discussing with each other about techniques
nooo its that technique noo its called that
noo its fake because a jab is faster blablabla
in a fight anything can happen
why can't you be faster with your feet then the opponent hands?
wth
i've sayed before and i've sayed again sport is not sience
it depends on 100001 things
but fuck me that was one hell of (what i like to call) SWEET CHIN MUSIC !
theblackpopefromhell 10 months ago 22
@theblackpopefromhell I like the way you think my friend and I agree 100%.
JoeFourMan 10 months ago 7
@theblackpopefromhell mr. t pities the fool that doesn't equate reaction time, ability to read the opponent, and the fact that repetition of a movement is memorized by muscles causing explosive and quick movements. that fool telographed like it's the 1800's and now got a bad case of athlete's face. I pity that fool an ass whomping lies around the next bend.
aswjr92 10 months ago
@theblackpopefromhell i hate to point out grammatical errors, but the word both denotes only 2 and you quote "on both 3 video's" so...
Rumblebelly24 7 months ago
He got DQ'd? I thought that higher up belts/sashes are allowed full contact...
SheaGrubbs 11 months ago
WTF That's one of the most basic fakes! He walked into it like a novice.
thelegendaryred16 1 year ago
@thelegendaryred16
it is one of the most basic fakes becaues it is so effective. When you got a jab coming at your face, you just don't see the kick coming (at least not if he folds right). Against a jab-sidekick, pretty much the only way to actually counter it is to use footwork. In this match the defender tried to counter the technique with a cross and payed for it.
Don't underestimate the jab-sidekick. It is an extremely effective combo even against experts
leavemealone2006 11 months ago
A great video,a good offender and a bad defender.
onandoff2010 1 year ago
Looks like it caught him in the neck
boanerges144 1 year ago
lol
ZigZagRunner 1 year ago
He died.
TechnoLeper 1 year ago
Oh nevermind. It was the backfist that threw the guy off. My bad.
tman229 1 year ago
I don't know what made him think that his arms would outreach the other guy's legs for a counter especially when it's being thrust at him.
tman229 1 year ago
Thats how master Makisoto died. RIP master Makisoto.
TheRickRod 1 year ago
.....another knockout do to the shitty karate style. karate is gay.
MegaHelloutube 1 year ago
@MegaHelloutube Haha and what can you do that is so great?
Mistabutts 1 year ago
@Mistabutts I'm not bragging about myself, i'm just saying there is a reason they get ko'd. look at their hands, they are so low. the only way karate would help you win a fight is if the other person was completly incompatent in fighting. ir they were kind enough to not hit you in the face, and keep their hands low incase u dedcided to throw a head kick. i'm in a sparring video here. search "sparring moments" its the 1st one u come 2. lemme kno what u think.
MegaHelloutube 1 year ago
@Mistabutts watch?v=GbGuHB39ZOU here is the link i told u to check out... let me know what u think. like i said i'm not a high calaber fighter by any means, i'm just saying i see TKD and karate guys get ko'd w/ a kick to the face all the time here but its cuz their hands are guarding their nipples. i sparred a national champ in karate (points karate that is) and it actually quite ez to hit him int he face since his hands were down, he was quick but u can only block so many in a combo ya know?
MegaHelloutube 1 year ago
@MegaHelloutube
not bad. And that is an important weakness of many Karate fighters: not keeping the hands up
I will say that you guys are just as susceptible to the same technique (jab-sidekick) as a Karate guy except you would get your body pummeled instead of your head. Trust me, I've seen tough guys who kept their hands up lose to front-leg sidekicks to the body. It is extremely powerful and you don't see it coming if it is done properly (as in this video)
leavemealone2006 11 months ago
Counter sidekick never fails me....
gamer43210 1 year ago
why is this illegal? ... the use of heel which is damaging rather than the slap of foot or because of the placement of the kick on the opponents body? or C other... great kick anyway!
2237lemon 1 year ago
Nice throat kick!
I don't think Kumar will be getting up from that one!
fizzybrasil 1 year ago
*miss* FUCK THIS falcon KICK!
ipokefan4 1 year ago
goddamn son
that was fucking lethal
YoungCrs 1 year ago
nice fake dude
mahp415 1 year ago
Beautiful side-kick, executed nicely. The kicker stayed in perfect balance too - the back foot didn't even leave it's position until the other leg came back to meet it. Very nice.
LeadLead 1 year ago
THROAT KICK! I think that's just as painful as getting the wind knocked out of you. I'd rather get knocked out lol
cleve101 1 year ago
nice faking the hands and goin for the kill !!!
pooopiepants 1 year ago
He kneeled to perform a right cross kneeling punch and paid the price for trying to use that without any guard or moving to the side. Not only is a kneeling puch a slow cumbersome move but he actually helped his opponent by thrusting forward into a taller opponent compounding the counter kick's opposing force. In my opinion the flaw lies in that he anticipated or at least moved in without a strategy.
tsunami770 1 year ago
my friend did the same kick on his friend in a tkd tournament and his voice got fucked up
EliasOwnage95 1 year ago
& THIS is why I love the side kick.
SocratesTheBeast 1 year ago
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@pistolpeeroy yeah how about you put your fucking money where your mouth is asshole
jethead70 1 year ago
@pistolpeeroy i was talking about how that kick hit the guy in the throat dickfuck
jethead70 1 year ago
why doesnt the black guy cover his head...
sientguy 1 year ago
@sientguy because you dont need too in karatae no punches to worry about & normally you see head kicks comming.
wondeboy12 1 year ago
@wondeboy12 punches to the head are something to worry about, and most headkicks are very fast, if u cover anything, it should be ur head...
sientguy 1 year ago
@sientguy no they are not moron you dont punch too the head in karate competition.
If you cant see a headkick comming 9 times out of 10 I have a hat with a propeller on it you may like to wear.......or prehaps even a dunce cap.
wondeboy12 1 year ago
hit him in the throat...
jethead70 1 year ago
@McClinchey09 when you are on a team kumite the weights will be completely different. If not its mattering your age.... Weight for 14/15 is usually under 53kg, under 57kg, under 63 kg, under 70 kg and over 70 kg. As you can see they split it up quite well. This is WKF one of the types of federations.
MrKarateBlood 1 year ago
Look up "A thiry second fight Epic knockout"
RikuQ0 1 year ago
I would love to compete against this guy
lionheart10010 1 year ago
@lionheart10010 me too!!
eulero75 1 year ago
@eulero75 The "counter fighter" had no business there. If you're going to rely on a weak tag playing gyaku-zuki with your guard down, then you deserve a beating. All he did was make the Attacker look good. The funny thing is that the kick was telegraphed poorly against someone experienced...the lead/set-up kizame wasn't focused & he had both feet too close together on the drive;sweep bait. A true fighter would Attack his Attack. I'll compete against that kick anyday. ikakarate. com
lionheart10010 1 year ago
@lionheart10010 The kick was certainly telegraphed, but the puncher had already eaten the fake and committed to his kneeling attack. It's easy to look at the tape and say "oh here comes a kick" but a smart fighter might not have tried to anticipate as this guy did.
No disrespect intended, but are you quick enough to recognize the lazy punch, and then sweep before he gets his kicking foot off the ground?
Would that sweep not require anticipation on your part?
The puncher gambled and lost is all.
OmegaBlacc 1 year ago
he was like urhhhhhh i can;t breath FUCKTARDS
Deanne159 1 year ago
Nice for the street but not for competition. . . excessive!
slimdudeDJC 1 year ago
ownage
zeroheroiii 1 year ago
I don't get how that move was illegal that looked like it should be more legal then jump kick video i saw on here.. at least this one didn't threaten to kill the guy
Ty921 1 year ago
two words.. FALCON KICK!!!
alexisafox 1 year ago
i dont know but if i were him id feel pretty proud of my self
llithix 1 year ago
OK. let me be the first to say. that guy is retarded
incarnateddeath 1 year ago
lol he got owned
elliotb92 1 year ago
SIT DOWN!!!
deek77 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Not a side kick dude...
NapiurPictures 2 years ago
@NapiurPictures shut up....if you dont know what your talking about why even waste your time typing to make yourself appear to be an idiot? It is a side kick.
22bcc 1 year ago
where's the original video to this...or the one with sound
tonebone8 2 years ago
@rantanen1
how? you better mind your business lil dude, abolish the judgement before you get judge, stay cool or stfu, nobody wants problems. Peace
calito0010 2 years ago
nice. he first,he faked with a left punch then when his opponent went down he executed the kick.
coolstrings 2 years ago
I don't know how karate competitions work but it seems your almost a whole foot taller than other people. How do weight classes work? Another great video bro.
McClinchey09 2 years ago 4
This was a men's team events. 5 matches from varying weight classes with random match up's on the day, hence the big difference in sizes. Thx for the comment.
JoeFourMan 2 years ago
thanks man so thats you in the video? sick shit bro
McClinchey09 2 years ago
Hmmm, This could work in an mma context. Sure would be a nice surprise for the wrestlers
1990ricky1990 2 years ago
Yea, but no MMA fighter would ever take a knee to deliver a mid-section punch.
hivelocity100 2 years ago
o shit that hurt ,looks like it caught his throat first ,he did walk into it though.
remotaurog 2 years ago
lucky kick:P
killerhater88 2 years ago 2
Didn't look DQ-worthy to me, but this is coming from the guy who was DQ'd in a match when my opponent bull-rushed me from six feet out and ran face-first into an extended kick, that I put absolutley NO power in, other than what he gave me. Black belt division in TKD, and guys are charging you, and winning because they run into your feet? Point sparring, no matter what style, irritates me at times. (He didn't look like a winner afterwards though, I tell ya.)
rckola2003 2 years ago 8
@rckola2003 la just in TKD is the way to go. I won Jr Olympics the last 2 years because the system. Its a chest guard that thats electronic and whenever the special foot guard hits it, the point shows up.
YDGnsince94 8 months ago
that shouldn't have been illegal. he stepped into it. Its not illegal if the moron puts his head in the way of you foot.
pratego 2 years ago 3
why is this illegal? bare in mind i dont do karate
anhisking 2 years ago
SWEET CHIN MUSIC BY SHAWN~ MICHAELS!!! hahahahahahaha
azninvazn627 2 years ago 2
thats not a karate counter... its dropping to ur knees and getting kicked in the face O_O
AZNKC 2 years ago 4
lol faint then kick in the face
nejixdragon 2 years ago
he tricked him them kicke the hizzy out if him
BigSteve247 2 years ago
100% illegal
Paitro202 2 years ago
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!
lukeadamskeogh 2 years ago
side kick is the most efficient way to get a point, if you're not fighting someone who can quickly sidestep you. it's a good tactic against big, slow opponents.
erichon00 2 years ago
epic. this also happens when a karate student tried this stunt in my TKD gym
lcw1980 2 years ago
the fallen fighter should block that kick with 2 arms moving from right to left. Then tackle him to the floor kicking first his right leg and then the tackle to the floor.
This is about focusing reflexion and power.
calito0010 2 years ago
reflexion? you suck
cryingindian 2 years ago
@calito0010 ... its also about watching the video and not tryina sound like u no everything reflexion wtf is that he jus got kickd in the face can u not just leave it at that?
MonkofChaos 2 years ago
Ohhh sorry for that pal, sorry if I judged you, I apologize if a comment from the past pissed you off.
calito0010 2 years ago
@calito0010 its ok
MonkofChaos 2 years ago
lucky shot.
foolsbetrippin 2 years ago 4
He set it up with the head punch feint and the noob went for it, opening up the kick.
OneManArmy99 2 years ago
you right
foolsbetrippin 2 years ago
The guy shouldn't have even fell for the fake jab to the face if he knew the rules. That could have avoided ducking and getting owned in the face.
XDylAnime 2 years ago 4
ouch
rsparkman123 2 years ago
That's the lamest set of rules I've ever heard of. A fight competition where you can't hit the face??
thesix107 2 years ago
the fights don't last long and are much more dangerous if you can punch to the face, you want UFC not martial arts, this is not lame this is different
Chichichua 2 years ago
Worst comment ever!
Nathanwmang 2 years ago
@thesix107 its a martial art competition moron
MonkofChaos 2 years ago
Lesson 1: Don't go for a kneeling reverse punch against a kick, ever.
Lesson 2: Keep your hands up.
malemonkley 2 years ago 4
Good Kick !!!! ^^
taekwondoSENGDO 2 years ago 2
it looked more like a throat
kormastas 2 years ago
this game was thrown I can tell you that......
critikush 2 years ago
SWEET CHIN MUSIC ;)
acer0169 2 years ago 4
lolololololololololololol
HaloHedgehog22 2 years ago
The guy was aiming for his chest. Opponent ducked for the punch and got owned in the face.
TheRyad 2 years ago 19
yeah i hope the judge didnt disqualify him for that
alexlowcaprice 2 years ago
he got the full force of that kick...
itsmeatwad1992 2 years ago
WOW THAT WAS FLAWLESS FORM! the punch didnt do anything it just got the guy more smashed cause he didn't have his hand in front of his face lol. if i wasnt on a stage platform id say roll or kartwhell instead of taking the ground but hes done
iamhero1234 2 years ago
he was like *bam* access denied
konryu123 2 years ago 35
@konryu123 lol... good one
GatameOne 1 year ago
the red guys stance also allows him to take more damage, there's a saying in hand to hand combat that goes like this: " let your fists do the damage and your feet take them"
mugabemerton 2 years ago
the left side guy was so idiot
gero8909 2 years ago
the blue guy's feet were plated firmly into the ground, whereas the red guy was on his toes constantly, the difference in levels became apparent
mugabemerton 2 years ago 2
idn why someone gave you negative in this..
FEEDBACKDRUMMING 2 years ago
wt r u talkin bout?????
mugabemerton 2 years ago
Good eye in studying physics.
shadowwolf337 2 years ago
But, you got to notice one thing, the red dude attacked the blue or black belt's higher mass, above the chest, which is only about a third of the weight of the blue/black belt's body. The blue/black guy went for the middle mass of the red guy, which carries the entire weight of his body. It's too much weight coming his direction and for a punch to take.
shadowwolf337 2 years ago
wot stance u take is a key factor in martial arts
mugabemerton 2 years ago
Yes, it is
shadowwolf337 2 years ago
WOW.lol.
Stepdenisethetrumpet 2 years ago
He fester the kick XD
izraeLx3 2 years ago
the guy hits like a lil bitch
anettesfaye 2 years ago
ouch!
LandoDaLover 2 years ago
so brutal...he faked a punch first too
amababies 2 years ago
that was executed perfectly if he had placed all his power into that kick the guy might even died.
mitsirugi1 2 years ago
Oh snap =O Bet he didn't see that one coming eh?
KungFuMetalHead 2 years ago
nice Kick!!
oOAngelJinOo 2 years ago
awsome the the guy went low because the other guy fainted with Kizami zuki and then when the Yoko geri came in hit him in the face even tho it was meant for the stomach maybe high chest! exellent technique tho
shadyrc 2 years ago
That must have hurt like all hell.
toodeep1212 2 years ago
you got knocked the fuck out
tyboy0735 2 years ago 3
Lol, house party?
lewisB997 2 years ago
Naughty Joseph! haha
arjybarjy 2 years ago
Just curious. Was the kick orginally meant for the mid-section and ended up hitting the head, because the other person moved down, or was the kick aimed at the head and the target was picked after the punch was thrown?
Elasticsteel 2 years ago
Yes originally meant for mid section/chest, the counter puncher contributed to the high contact.
JoeFourMan 2 years ago
Thanks for your reply. Interestingly enough, the counter puncher had his left guard up, or so it seems from this angle.
Elasticsteel 2 years ago
Yeah I think he was expecting a backhand punch after the front hand feint. Who knows for sure, except that he certainly didn't expect a side kick :)
JoeFourMan 2 years ago
We should have full-contact rules for shiai karate. I bet the minute we do the kyokushin guys would not be so bragant in their comments about been the toughess karate.The WKF should allowed full-contact like WTF TKD is just a matter of using a helmet & a chest protector that's all. I bet that even TKD won't even be so cocky anymore
karateinfo1 2 years ago
and this is the case where i never got the point of this strike in tournaments. knee to the ground and reverse punch, lowering your body......that would be nice as a defense move for a high attack..but never never as an offensive move cause...this is what happens...a knee to the head is also a posibility...nice yop chagie by the way .
papaiosif 2 years ago
Another example of a stupid way to run a 'sport.' Get gloves and a helmet if you're going to have that kind of contact. There's no reason to get crippled practicing a sport in the f-ing 21st century.
rwiedeman 2 years ago
I agree.
hoppers001 2 years ago
Last year after it was approve to wear a helmet the WKF came in and said that in th adult div. no helmets were going to be used...As a way to prevent full-contact situations like this one.I think they should stop fooling themselves and proceed into either full-contact or semi-contact like the JKA or the WTF tkd,more protection and full-contact,but maintaining the charateristics of shiai,we don't want to become I.K.O.either
karateinfo1 2 years ago
an all he had to do to avoid the kick was to sweep or said step
but as u can see he was in the mid of delivering a rev punch.
sanddocon 2 years ago
yeah too.. bad.. only if he had your brain.
Lloki 2 years ago
In the shotokan karate style is this a yoko geri , three points
jego11jego 2 years ago