Muslims And The So-Called Moon God Theory--Shabir Ally

[WakeupFreinds]

I believe it all comes down to the person them self. I was born into a faith that until recently didn't fit with what I had discovered, let me just say this, forget what faith u may have been born into, unless it includes Jesus as Lord! because in the end it will not save u 1 bit and your parents will be to busy trying to save them self's in the end days, for u to try and blame it on them. Put all faith into Jesus don't be afraid. Never quit searching because Jesus will never quit on u God bless

[Redmissionary]

John GilChrist is does not know much about what he is talking about

[SPLENOROUS]

ALL religions andbeliefsystems are taughtby the fallen ones that you call god! Our creator created us and we fell--we are not to bow togods but be faithful until creator coms back! PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH WE HAVE ALL FALLEN!

[THEUSAWILLFALL]

Ill prove to any so called moslem that orthodox islam is false along with judaism and christianity.

[XenomexTutorials]

Not if you be talking to "Dr.Zakir Naik"

He will Make you think you knew nothing about religion.

YouTube him!

[THEUSAWILLFALL]

Ill teach your so called teacher and overseer "dr knowbody the absoluite truth.

JUST TRY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[YasirTV]

Its strange how those people who "hate" islam dont comment strongly on videos like this which clear up misconceptions about islam.

Those who do, go off topic. the Video is concerning "Allah" and muslims worshipping moon god.

[onlyallah1]

isnt there an ajet where Allah spw says not to pray to moon or sun ut to him

[roxy841991]

yes it is this :)

The night, the day, the sun, the moon, are only a few of His signs. Do not bow down in worship to the sun or the moon, but bow down to God who created them, if it is truly Him that you worship. (41:37)

[onlyallah1]

kufrs dont believe in Allah spw because they cant see him

[zafthedon]

salaam

Gary Miller said a great statement - we have to clear the garbage.

[zafthedon]

Salaam

great stuff shabir Ally - lies are everywhere today. May Allah protect us from these things.

peace

[rapartist43]

What I am saying is that Adam or Noach weren't prophets. You were arguing that telling me there were 600.000. Isn't that what muslims believe?

[superakarma]

muslims didn't say there were 600.000 prophets ,it's a jewish tradion as i mentioned ,in islam there are prophets and there are messengers ,what are you talking about starting from abraham are messengers,others are prophets ,much more like righious men

[rapartist43]

spot the difference:

wikipedia . org/wiki/Table_of_prophets_of_­Abrahamic_religions

[rapartist43]

"The Christains are planning, but Allah s.w.t. is the best of Planners!!!"

Satan is the best deceiver...

[indifferentcanadian]

Christians are brainwashed that they worship a human "jesus". To proof that Allah is the proper name for even a Christian I think Shabir should have just challenge them to check in an Aramaic dictionary and search for Aramaic equivalent to God:

God= AaLaH in Aramaic

on line Aramaic dictionary: peshitta(dot)org/cgi-bin/lexic­on.cgi

I believe Christians should use the language of Jesus which was Aramaic.

But why bother they worship Horus Son of Isis anyways!

[rapartist43]

Not true. 1. Allah derives from the words "al" and "ilah", meaning "the god", therefore this is not a name but a title. The Aramaic word for god is Elah, not allah!

[Nazam44]

This is incorrect, Allah is not a title but a proper noun. In addition, not all scholars of the Arabic language believe that Allah is an construction of al and ilah.

[rapartist43]

It doesn't matter what scholars BELIEVE; it is plain to see that "Al" and "Ilah" = "Allah", just like "Al" and "Ilat" = "Allat". Allah is not a name. Even Hubal, the main deity of the Quraish was called "Allah", hence Mohammad's father's name: Abd'Allah!^^

[superakarma]

can you back up your claims that "even" hubal was called "allah" ,some arab pagans believed in a supreme god who created everything but they believe he is a remote god and they asocciated partners to him ,they didn't call them allah ,they called them daughters of allah,the same blasphemy the christians do when associating partners to allah,jesus and the holy spirit.

[rapartist43]

History establishes beyond the SHADOW OF A DOUBT that even the PAGAN ARABS BEFORE MUHAMMAD TIME, knew the CHIEF GOD BY THE NAME OF ALLAH.ilah is used for any god and Al-ilah (contracted to Allah, i.e, the god), was the name of the SUPREME; this term denoted the CHIEF GOD of three hundred and sixty idols...As final evidence, we have the fact that centuries BEFORE Muhammad the Arabian Kaaba, the temple at Mecca, was called Beit Allah, the House of God. (Muhammad is Mecca, pp.25-26, 31-36)

[superakarma]

you didn't answer or prove my question ,you said Hubal was called Allah ,which is a lie ,true that pagan arabs before islam knew the name of allah the supreme god ,it doesn't make the origin of the name pagan ,abraham and his son preached monotheism in the area and the people after went astray and associated other gods as parteners as i mentioned before,it's not new to the pagan worshippers to take over monotheistic infuilences or items and add up to it,just like with the brazen serpent,peace.

[rapartist43]

Hubal's TITLE (that is what it is, it is NOT a name!) was Allah. You are seriously trying to argue that? It is not that people were monotheistic BEFORE Judaism, the opposite is the case, so stop twisting history and constructing your own wannabe-history. We know better.

[superakarma]

hahahaaaaa,people were not monotheistic before judaism?what happened? god created adam and left everyone to paganism even adam till judaism? there were prophets before judaism sweet heart ,messengers who screamed monotheism ,some people followed it ,some didn't,unfortunatly for you,we know better:)

[rapartist43]

Okay, who then?

[superakarma]

was adam a pagan?was enoch a pagan?was noah and the people who accompanied him through out the story to the arc pagans? was eber,abraham and lot pagans? didn't they spread and told the people about god?!!!

[rapartist43]

Abraham's father was a pagan. Abraham was the first Jew.^^

BTW: Do you consider Adam as prophet? Who was he talking to then? His wife? Also, a prophet wouldn't have screwed up in Gan Eden.^^

[superakarma]

the fact that abraham's father was a pagan doesn't make everyone else around or before him a pagan,when you say abraham was the first jew i believe you mean he was the first "yehudi" which would be an objective refering to someone who wroship the one and only god,i can call myself a yehudi if i'm using hebrew ,judaism as an organized religion started with moses, being a prophet doesn't depend on how many people the prophet spread monotheism to

[rapartist43]

"the fact that abraham's father was a pagan doesn't make everyone else around or before him a pagan" - well, it proves that there were no monotheists at that time with Abraham being the very first to acknowledge the one and only G-d, wouldn't you agree?

"judaism as an organized religion started with moses" - starting with Abraham, my friend.^^

[superakarma]

what about noah and the people who accompanied him throughout the flood ,were they pagan's too?!! :D

[superakarma]

adam gave it to his children who therefore gave it to the people after and so on,everytime people went astray god sent a prophet,adam didn't screw up,maily prophets are subject to human mistakes,not sins but human mistakes,you are the last one who would say adam is not a prophet because he screwed up,look at how you charactarize your prophets in the torah or in the bible,peace

[rapartist43]

Adam has not prophecized a SINGLE thing. Name ONE thing Adam prophecized! How can you call him a prophet? You obviously don't understand the term prophet then. And what exactly did Adam teach his children Cain and Abel? How to be jealous and kill? Oh boy, read that book first before using terms you don't seem to grasp fully or start telling fairy tales!

[superakarma]

noah's son was a disbeliever ,the story about adam's sons being jealous doesn't make adam guilty of not spreading monotheism to them,even monotheists sin

[rapartist43]

"adam didn't screw up" - you blame his wife for that fallacy?

"prophets are subject to human mistakes,not sins" - oh, for sure they are. But at least they shouldn't be sinners, right? Did Adam sin? Did YOUR "prophet" sin? Tell me, how do you guys characterize your "prophet" and what exactly did that "prophet" do? Read Sirat Rasul Allah by Ishaq. Very informative indeed.^^

[superakarma]

ibn ishaq's work is lost as you might not and it's not an authentic tradition as ibn ishaq himself says in his introduction that he gathered everything he heard without considering if it was a lie or truth,ibn ishaq's sira is not authentic

[superakarma]

mohamed didn't sin

[superakarma]

A Jewish tradition suggests that there were 600,000 male and 600,000 female prophets. The Talmud recognizes the existence of 48 male prophets who bequeathed permanent messages to mankind.[4] According to the Talmud there were also seven women who are counted as prophets whose message bears relevance for all generations,it doesn't count 600,000 or 48 from abraham to malachi, to me

[rapartist43]

"A Jewish tradition SUGGESTS"...

There were 55 prophets. See them here:

jewfaq . org/prophet . htm

[superakarma]

okay,so what were you arguing about?!!! :D

[cRossZhaker]

Alhamdulillah!!!

All Christian and secular arguments are always answered. Proving only that they dont have grounds to stand.

May Allah shower His blessings to his true servants like the late Ahmed Deedat, Dr. Badawi, Dr. Zakir Naik and Shabir Ally. Also to those hundreds of Muslims who have given their effort to remove the cobwebs on peoples' eyes, including Nazam44 and Muslimbychoice. Keep up the good work guys.

Truth will always prevail.