I'm moving to CA from ID and I'm really gonna miss my gun rights. My question is this, if I did this mod to an AR clone that's not called an AR, it would be a rimfire rifle, not a centerfire, and therefore legal in CA, would it not? Anybody? Bueler?
i heard those .22 conversion ktis gunk up the rifle over time is that true? i was thinking about buying either the conversion kit or a full .22 upper receiver
@falloutforever88 They get dirty just like anything else you shoot : ) But seriously, it depends on the ammo. Cheap ammo will dirty up faster than more expensive ammo generally speaking. I have the same conversion and have shot over a hundred federal and winchester 22LR's then switched to .223 and shot a few hundred and back again to shoot about 100 or so 22LR's without cleaning anything and never had a problem. I think the new ones are Stainless steel and are even better than mine.
@falloutfan79 You have to realize: no matter the projectile size, it's still a firearm.
Example 1: .17 caliber rifle cartridge. It uses plenty of powder, and propels a .17-inch (4.3mm?) bullet to hit for a couple hundred pounds of force. (Let's call an Olympic boxer's strikes around a hundred pounds.)
Example 2: NATO 5.56 SS109 cartridge. These tend to be only 10-12gr more than an average .22LR, and they have tremendous potential for lethality. The projectile is almost identical in measurement.
@AmericaStandsStrong1 It was inaccurate to state an Olympic boxer's hit to be such. But in reality, a strike can land anywhere from 60-1000 foot-pounds of force, depending on angle, strength, technique, and even fist size. I was merely giving a reference point.
But congratulations on being a condescending a-hole, anyways.
@eatmorezebra The point I am trying to make is, if your reference point is going to be so far from the truth, then the example is not going to make sense.
@falloutfan79 As far as lethality, Gas Powered BBguns Can kill people too. Im not sure you would use it in a war scenario like in iraq, But if your rifle is able to convert to more than 1 type of ammo, then its a big plus. Kind of like having a power tool that can use more than 1 type of drill or sized drill.
@diamondtheater88 You know I do appreciate your feedback & opinion as I am only trying to learn from those who know. However, I do not appreciate your insults and crude language which attacks either my intelligence or my character. Please stop with these pointless insulting messages or I will notify the You Tube authorities & I do have witnesses here on this channel. Thank You. Sincerely, JAMES.
Okay, non-flamer question. I own a ciener kit and I was just curious as to whether or not it will cycle with a suppressor and subsonic ammo. My ceiner kit tends to need higher powered ammo to cycle reliably, didn't know if that was why you chose to use supersonics with the can.
still sounds like a 22 rimfire.that supressor is either a fake or chocked with carbon and needs a cleaning.but it should sound just a little louder than an air-rifle with a suppressor.
@MrRealgamer777 For the S&W MP15-22? I'm going to go with "definitely not" I don't own one, but I've handled one and it's not a real "AR". You might be able to switch out the entire upper and buffer tube/spring...but even that I really doubt. If you're talking about the AR above though then yes you could switch between the two because of the design of the Ciener kit.
Man I sure would like to have one of those. What type/brand is it? Expensive? Or Should I just go & purchase something like the Sig Or Smith & Wesson AR 15 type knockoff's?? Thanks. Sincerely, JAMES.
@buzzclark The rifle doesn't belong to me, but I know its a standard .223/5.56 AR with a Ciener .22LR drop in conversion kit.
I do own a S&W M&P15-22. Its a very nice rifle, and I really like it. Highly recommend it if you're willing to pay $422 for a .22LR (price from Buds Gunshop online with an A1 flash hider installed-I'd pay for that over naked muzzle model). Manual of arms is identical to a regular AR. Bolt even locks back after the last shot, something conversion kits don't generally do.
@buzzclark Stick with LMT based AR's and get the proper barrel/bolt/magwell conversion. Personally I think the .22 is a waste of time. Your better off going with a 5-7 conversion if you don't mind the crazy ammo prices. I do have to admit tho, .22 is cheap as hell, so for rodent control or small hardcore bird hunting I guess it would work out.
@buzzclark Well at that look at this ar-15 called the r-15 by remington it comes in a 223. plus you have a little money left over for some goodies and if you want go hunting with it in certain states for certain game like predator
Knock off's? LOL! both the sig522 and s&w mp22-15 (search Nutnfancy on youtube) are very capable tactical .22's. Ergos are the same and both are great for training and building muscle memory etc. Regarding a .22 ar conversion? It can be done with either a complete upper at $300+ or a CMMG drop in kit for about $140 pretty cheap.
Seriously I would get a 556 and a separate .22 as 22's burn really dirty next to a .223. In my case I have a Sig M400 556 and a Sig 522(swat commando ver)
Not only is it good practice to wear ear protection no matter what you are shooting it's a must before you enter at most ranges. I'm not here to argue if that suppressor is real or fake but I can tell you that the average one in the $350-$450 price range drops the supersonic crack down 25-30 decibels with reg ammo so it's still around 100 decibels. Far from silenced! A person that has no idea about this or gets firearms training from CoD you will have zero clue what your even commenting about.
@BrokenRRT Thanks for actually knowing a little about suppressors. It is a real one. I was using Federal bulk pack .22LR from Wal-Mart at the time, so there was the crack. It is a real suppressor (doesn't belong to me). It is a Hearing Protection LLC "Checkmate" (the company now goes by Griffin Armament). Reviews are available if you Google. There's actually a few test videos of it from the manufacturer on YouTube where he uses subsonic ammo. It works rather well.
for practice, at short range ..50yrds... I use 22 short subsonics...even without a silencer the report is similar to a pellet gun..
in a bolt action with silencer all you hear is the firing pin. you never bother the neighbors, even in the dead of night.
I have yet to see how well they cycle in my semi....haven't had the opportunity to go hunting this spring, but I'd like to see how they would perform.
@Mockingbird115 This isn't a Mossberg. The charging handle and the forward assist on the mossberg are not functional 702 Plinkster receiver. This is a conversion of an AR style Rifle. I don't know if it's a Smith and Wesson M&P15, an Armalite, a Bushmaster, or a Colt, but it is not a Mossberg. Reliability: Mossberg or Colt clone are nearly identical, maybe a + to the Colt or colt clone, price: Mossberg hands down, accuracy....We'll see. I'll post a vid when I get my Mossberg....
@BrokenRRT NO SUPPRESSOR drops the sound of the super sonic crack you idiot. The super sonic crack is the breaking of the sound barrier by the bullet itself. Are you honestly trying to say that a suppressor slows the projectile down below the speed of sound? A suppressor works by cooling the gases down before they hit the cold air around it most though the use of "baffles" inside it, thus eliminating the "clap" that comes from hot gases hitting cold gases.
@fistofwarlords I think what your issue is your just looking to deep into the point I was trying to make. I think anyone with a little intelligence understands what I was getting at. Sorry if I didn't word it as good as you would have. keep in mind ballistic crack depends on the speed (subsonic ammo) which in turn also depends on air temperature and atmospheric conditions. I also would do a wiki search under supressors so you can see that some do slow the velocity of the round by bleeding gas.
@BrokenRRT Bleeding gases? There is no gas bleeding in a suppressor. As soon as the bullet leaves the bore the gases are vented away. If anything a suppressor increases accuracy and helps stabilize velocity by stripping away gases from the heel/base as it leaves the bore thus stopping yaw through the use of asymmetric baffles. I own multiple suppressors and have a close personal friend who works for a company constructing them. Your knowledge is armchair at best.
@fistofwarlords Your going to stand by the fact that some suppressors do indeed bleed of gas? "Some suppressor designs, referred to as "integrals", do this by allowing gas to bleed off along the length of the barrel before the projectile exits."
@BrokenRRT A gun with an integral suppressor is simply a barrel built with a suppressor in it. Velocity isn't lost because the "gases bleeding off" but because the barrel is so much shorter and has less twist than a standard barrel. Even in those the gases don't "bleed off" but are still stripped away by the suppressor built into the barrel. Look at it like this: If you have a standard gun with a suppressor, velocity is normal, shorten the barrel though, and it will decrease.
@BrokenRRT Furthermore the claim that a suppressor lowers velocity truly shows your limited knowledge on this. Many suppressor companies have disproved this ignorant claim through the use of Digital Chronographs. In every case the Chronographs show an increase in velocity. They hypothesize that the suppressor is actually stopping projectile yaw which causes this increase. The added weight at the end of the barrel also lowers barrel harmonics and barrel rise which also increase accuracy.
@fistofwarlords Bro we can go round and round with this all day. Keep in mind that I did not say all Suppressors lower the velocity of the round and nor was I trying to state that in my first comment you had to attack me in and call me names to make yourself feel bigger and better. I guess your wife has left and you already killed the dog so it's my turn... To make it easy for you go to google and search " suppressor wiki" Read the last paragraph under "Subsonic ammunition". I can provide more.
To all assholes in general... It is good practice to always wear ear plugs when at the range. Maybe the 22 is suppressed, but the guy next to you has the Beowulf system. How are you gonna hear your Justin Beiber or lady Gaga when you put down your game controller and put on your big boy panties.
Honestly I have a strong feeling thats not a real supressor. Its still sounds like all the rest of the non supressed .22lrs Ive delt with. Not to mention how skinny they thing is. Supressors are similar to car mufflers. There isnt enough room in that thing for the baffles required to supress the the report.
@mjkeat It's real (doesn't belong to me). It's a Hearing Protection LLC Checkmate (company now known as Griffin Armament). The reason it sounds loud is that I was using supersonic ammo. There was still a crack.
I also believe that it has something to do with my cameras microphone- normally with gunshots it will automatically adjust it's "gain" to account for the loud noise. With this suppressor, noises were around 100 db so it didn't need to reduce it's gain by as much, making it sound louder.
@87bu11seye87 Ammo has a lot to do with audible noise. If you try to use a supersonic round with a supressor, you will hear a crack. However, if you use a subsonic round, it be more like a soft hand clap. You can check it out somewhere on Youtube as usual.
@87bu11seye87 Its a wanna-be suppressor that actually does nothing. If you use sub-sonic ammo, you won't have enough kinetic energy to kill a cat, it would probably bounce off a window actually. And sub-sonic ammo is quiet unsilenced. That is just for looks, period, or for people that buy into that "protecting hearing" garbage. Another point is, if you have one of those on a .22, something is wrong with you.
@mjkeat Where have you seen a can the size of a car muffler, Ive never seen one. In general .22lr cans are in the 1" - 1 1/4" range, To the OP, That must not be a pretty cheap company because that can is really doing nothing to suppress those rounds. For those that said "its a supersonic round" maybe out of a 20" barrel but out of a 16" barrel it stays right around subsonic speeds. I shoot fed BP out of mine and it sounds just like when Im shooting rem Subsonics. I use an AAC aviator.
@h22ate I search and search my post aand couldnt find anything where I mentioned the words car or muffler. Next time read the entire post or properly quote the person youre responding to. Will that work bud?
@mjkeat I guess its pretty hard to find that rediculous post concidering you deleted it , I guess nobody can read the entire thing now. Go back to playing COD and learning about your "car muffler" suppressors from movies, while the rest of us purchase our NFA items and actually have hands on experience with using and owning them. Kids and "media" create a sadly stupid human.
@h22ate Thats funny considering Im a combat vet. A real combat vet not some S-shop dude that pushed paper their entire deployment. I dont play your video games either, nor have I deleted any posts. I do however watch movies but have never seen a car muffler attached to the muzzle end of a firearm. Do you seriously have to make things up in order to have something to bitch about? You jumped into a conversation that not only had come to a conclussion but did not include you. It makes me sad.
@mjkeat You didnt delete your post, how come it shows that you deleted it. You get called out on something and you hide and cry about it. Being a combat vet doesnt mean anything unless you use the instruments noted, which im sure a man of your stature has not. I dont need to make anything up to comment on peoples idiocies I just like looking for dumb comments that people post about firearm related matter. You do realize this is a publicly displayed site where the whole world posts comments?
@h22ate I do believe if I deleted something I would know. I have no reason to lie to anyone including you. I could care less. I do have experience with the topic at hand. You can make all the accusations you want. Neither one of use can prove or disprove anything being said. Concern was expressed and the OP solved it. Once again youre commenting on a situation that was settled and done. Enjoy your trolling.
@mjkeat Not to disagree with you mjkeat but I have seen a fellow weld a small straight 5 HP brigs and station muffler on the end of a .22 to suppress it. It worked but not as efficient as a real suppressor. Why? Well the diameter of the baffled holes the projectile travels through needs a certain size to properly strip away the gases to give them time to cool. A 5.56MM(.223) needs at least a 7.5MM diameter to travel through in the suppressor. Anything closer could possibly be catastrophic.
@Streetmastaalex whats so funny about ear plugs? even with a .22 you should wear hearing protection, clearly you and the 3 people who thumbed you must play CoD.
@Streetmastaalex i take it you still lay CoD? hes using a suppressor with supersonic ammo, so he still gets a loud crack, and its just good practice, but im done arguing with you your clearly an expert on firearms.
@11335569 Okay keyboard commando. You wear those earplugs with your suppressed .22 ammo. And god forbid someone sneezes within 5 of you or you'll go deaf won't you.
@sdemp321 You probably play WAY to much CoD. The AR-15/m4/M16 in CoD all fire the .223/5.56 NATO round, both which have moderate recoil. The AR-15 in this video has had the .223 bolt taken out an a .22 "conversion" bolt put in. .22's have less recoil than a cap gun.
@Garuda1337 wait wut am i doing bad u dik face fkin imagrant go to hell all i asked was the ar 15 a cuztomizable version my dad owns m16 so im curious u dik face burn in ur moms pussy
@Garuda1337 dam many peple do and wut in fuks sake am i doin/ i own fire arms my dad does and 2 of all stfu already u imature bich sttop cursing and hideing between internant and life u homo ass fkin quir holy fkin religous hindu
@Garuda1337 ar 15 is probably the most customizable assault rifle ever with the right kits you could make one shoot a 50 cal i was at a gun show yesterday and they had grenade launchers. while the grenades arent legal flars and smoke nades are good to go
@Seidnu What? That has nothing to do with my point I was trying to make. I just hate seeing these 12 year olds that comment on gun videos from their vast experience with airsoft guns and Modern Warfare. It gets really rather obnoxious.
I hope you're joking, as this comment is nonsense. Firstly, .22LR doesn't develop enough energy to penetrate a target. Furthermore, energy is a function of an object's mass and velocity. Subsonic ammo dumps substantially less energy into a target, and anyone who's familiar both types can attest to this.
I should add the qualifier to my previous post of :"penetrate 'completely' though most targets." Surely, .22LR will penetrate through thin targets, but my comments on energy still stand.
Who seriously wears ear protection shooting 22 cal shells? And with a suppressor. Although it is obviously a cheap one, its not modulating the crack at all.
@dante666diaz I normally dont wear ear protection for the .22's I shoot, but sometimes I will get a bad casing that basically blows up in the chamber and it makes a sound close to a .223, I guess some people are just afraid that 1 out of a thousand of shells might blow up on them.
@dante666diaz are you too stupid to see the OTHER ranges and OTHER people there? where someone might come and start cracking off a .338 Lap Mag? or 7.62? etc...
Very nice! I hope you have had the chance to fire subsonic rounds - so much more enjoyable. I have a YHM Phantom 5.56 can that I shoot subsonic .22LR through; it's pretty sweet, although I can only get crappy Remington SubSonics up here in Alaska. You should have really cut off the comments, though, lots of little kids like to run their mouths about crap they have no idea about. Again, though, thanks for the vid!
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 no becouse the length of the shell and the chamber would get practicaly blown up from the power difference. I hope that answers your question
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 no becouse of the length of the shell and the pressure of the powder difference would wreck your gun. I hope that answeres your question.
22LR rounds absolutely have no recoil n if ur lookin for high capacity mags n ur in cali the easiest is just go to Arizona n buy urself som mags ther n bring em over, anyhow i rechamberd my AR15 for .223 rouns n replaced it with a new rDIAS or u can try to file it down
@xxReaverXXCerberusxx Yea california is really gay when it comes to guns. You can have mags that can hold over 10 rounds but only if they are disassembled wtf
There's nothing wrong with the video's name. He's shooting .22LR out of an AR-15 with a conversion kit. I fail to see how this description is doing a poor job to explain what we're seeing.
@opmike343 i was stating that a supersonic bullet would be a .22 mach2 rather than a .22 long hence the supersonic noise being louder than the silencer
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GoProGunner 1 month ago
@GoProGunner ??? Are you serious?
OneForTheSouth 1 month ago
@OneForTheSouth that comment was from my friends for some fucked up reason the think shooting is gay
GoProGunner 1 month ago
@GoProGunner whats the matter are you afraid of a lil boom.......in my opinion your a homo
MrKevinmanz 3 weeks ago
@MrKevinmanz My friends hacked my account and wrote all kinds of stupid shit on peoples videos it was not me
GoProGunner 3 weeks ago
I think Gas Blowback Rifle much more recoil. lol
beamsummer2007 2 months ago
I'm moving to CA from ID and I'm really gonna miss my gun rights. My question is this, if I did this mod to an AR clone that's not called an AR, it would be a rimfire rifle, not a centerfire, and therefore legal in CA, would it not? Anybody? Bueler?
benjaminlhargrave 2 months ago
shooting a .22 out of a AR is like slaping america in the face
ijesse928 2 months ago
Dear santa,
Ive been good all year, can i have this for christmas lol, but no surpressor and more recoil!
everythingbybobby 2 months ago
pa pum kkkkkkkk show
MsLuciano3 2 months ago
damn. thats pretty quiet
TylerCreation 2 months ago
Should make one in 22WMR
nigellegin070 2 months ago
i dont think i could handle the recoil of that wepon.
breezyatv90 2 months ago 21
jenial para boludear xd
AH64APACHE696 2 months ago
I haven't had my hands on a .22 since I was 7. Such fun.
175myles 2 months ago
see, these rifles dont sound very suppresed with a suppressor. Why is that?
SuperZaCkArEe 3 months ago
@SuperZaCkArEe because this is real life and you cant make a firearm sound like someone is tapping their finger very lightly on a desk in real life.
Grunt922 2 months ago
@SuperZaCkArEe Displays on bullet size, compare with mp5 9mm and ak 7.62x39. Silencer also depletes muzzle
GunMaker91 2 months ago
Where do you get short mags none of my local shops have them and I never have ordered online
ImYerrow 3 months ago
It's a .22, does it really need to be silenced
tylerj19797 3 months ago
@tylerj19797 Rabbit hunting, yeah it will get more in the bag at the right time of day. Plinking, not so much
ThatDudeSirraj 3 months ago
nice video!
like the camo finish on it! I do custom finish and build work and whoever did this one up did nice work!!!
Vietnam is one of my fav patterns!!!!
dereklmoore 3 months ago
I have more recoil when I take a piss omg
Christoffer424 4 months ago
how did you do that paintjob?
GUNS4MIKE1234 4 months ago
@GUNS4MIKE1234
Vietnam tiger pattern is awesome huh!!!!
If you need / want some camo work done, look me up!
dereklmoore 3 months ago
thinking about buying that gun now
379peterbilt530 4 months ago
the recoil must be a bitch
69hoesonmydick69 4 months ago
damn that was hella silenced!
SalamiLalami 5 months ago
i heard those .22 conversion ktis gunk up the rifle over time is that true? i was thinking about buying either the conversion kit or a full .22 upper receiver
falloutforever88 5 months ago
@falloutforever88 They get dirty just like anything else you shoot : ) But seriously, it depends on the ammo. Cheap ammo will dirty up faster than more expensive ammo generally speaking. I have the same conversion and have shot over a hundred federal and winchester 22LR's then switched to .223 and shot a few hundred and back again to shoot about 100 or so 22LR's without cleaning anything and never had a problem. I think the new ones are Stainless steel and are even better than mine.
catdoc541 5 months ago
Where did you get that forword assist button? i want a new one
gaveen666 6 months ago
sick camo
ALXist 7 months ago
got as much kick as a paintball gun :D
eastcoastlegendsBRE 7 months ago
cool, but the 556 kicks more ass
willcitoman97 8 months ago
Why I fire .45's? Because you don't need two bullets.
FalconAlpaca 8 months ago
So, how lethal would that be? Obviously any round is dangerous but would it be practical to use that?
falloutfan79 9 months ago
@falloutfan79 You have to realize: no matter the projectile size, it's still a firearm.
Example 1: .17 caliber rifle cartridge. It uses plenty of powder, and propels a .17-inch (4.3mm?) bullet to hit for a couple hundred pounds of force. (Let's call an Olympic boxer's strikes around a hundred pounds.)
Example 2: NATO 5.56 SS109 cartridge. These tend to be only 10-12gr more than an average .22LR, and they have tremendous potential for lethality. The projectile is almost identical in measurement.
eatmorezebra 8 months ago
@eatmorezebra Hahaha, the average boxer's punch is 766 ft lbs. What a horrible example.
AmericaStandsStrong1 7 months ago
@AmericaStandsStrong1 It was inaccurate to state an Olympic boxer's hit to be such. But in reality, a strike can land anywhere from 60-1000 foot-pounds of force, depending on angle, strength, technique, and even fist size. I was merely giving a reference point.
But congratulations on being a condescending a-hole, anyways.
eatmorezebra 7 months ago
@eatmorezebra The point I am trying to make is, if your reference point is going to be so far from the truth, then the example is not going to make sense.
AmericaStandsStrong1 7 months ago
@falloutfan79 Less Weight Means less fatigue. Also room to carry even more ammo because of its reduced size. I guess quieter too.
CoolConejo 6 months ago
@falloutfan79 As far as lethality, Gas Powered BBguns Can kill people too. Im not sure you would use it in a war scenario like in iraq, But if your rifle is able to convert to more than 1 type of ammo, then its a big plus. Kind of like having a power tool that can use more than 1 type of drill or sized drill.
CoolConejo 6 months ago
izzit tat sound comes from de bullet hitting on de target??
1s2y3d 9 months ago
It's a movie prop.. durr its not real.
HowDecent 9 months ago
here in chile it cost 1480 USD... f*** anti-weapon laws
Ktaldoxx 9 months ago
wow that suppressor works like a beauty
wakjob94 10 months ago
i think for a .22 id want a loudener not a surpresser, and something that increases recoil!
CanadianReich 10 months ago 14
@diamondtheater88 You know I do appreciate your feedback & opinion as I am only trying to learn from those who know. However, I do not appreciate your insults and crude language which attacks either my intelligence or my character. Please stop with these pointless insulting messages or I will notify the You Tube authorities & I do have witnesses here on this channel. Thank You. Sincerely, JAMES.
buzzclark 10 months ago
Okay, non-flamer question. I own a ciener kit and I was just curious as to whether or not it will cycle with a suppressor and subsonic ammo. My ceiner kit tends to need higher powered ammo to cycle reliably, didn't know if that was why you chose to use supersonics with the can.
rsmac11 10 months ago
nice camo man
MrMMABoy 10 months ago
so many losers wanting to show they know everything about these worthless tools
vadyrasty 10 months ago
still sounds like a 22 rimfire.that supressor is either a fake or chocked with carbon and needs a cleaning.but it should sound just a little louder than an air-rifle with a suppressor.
leacher23 11 months ago
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leacher23 11 months ago
so i kno there is a sm 15 22 right well could u get a conversion kit for 5.56 for that rifle?
MrRealgamer777 11 months ago
@MrRealgamer777 For the S&W MP15-22? I'm going to go with "definitely not" I don't own one, but I've handled one and it's not a real "AR". You might be able to switch out the entire upper and buffer tube/spring...but even that I really doubt. If you're talking about the AR above though then yes you could switch between the two because of the design of the Ciener kit.
rsmac11 10 months ago
ok why not just buy like a 10/22 or a marlin m60 why spen over a grand then a 100buks just to shoot .22 waste of money in the long run
TheDadrobb 1 year ago
that doesn't sound very suppressed to me
manslayer97 1 year ago
unreal recoil...
rahagbab 1 year ago
Igot a smith an wesson .22 ari5 for 500 how much wa yours
rjrock91 1 year ago
lol you DONT NEED EARPLUGS!!!! lol
RicePattyFatty4 1 year ago
it's like had a small cock and condom on it :/
lucasdelyon69 1 year ago
Man I sure would like to have one of those. What type/brand is it? Expensive? Or Should I just go & purchase something like the Sig Or Smith & Wesson AR 15 type knockoff's?? Thanks. Sincerely, JAMES.
buzzclark 1 year ago
@buzzclark The rifle doesn't belong to me, but I know its a standard .223/5.56 AR with a Ciener .22LR drop in conversion kit.
I do own a S&W M&P15-22. Its a very nice rifle, and I really like it. Highly recommend it if you're willing to pay $422 for a .22LR (price from Buds Gunshop online with an A1 flash hider installed-I'd pay for that over naked muzzle model). Manual of arms is identical to a regular AR. Bolt even locks back after the last shot, something conversion kits don't generally do.
87bu11seye87 1 year ago 5
@buzzclark Stick with LMT based AR's and get the proper barrel/bolt/magwell conversion. Personally I think the .22 is a waste of time. Your better off going with a 5-7 conversion if you don't mind the crazy ammo prices. I do have to admit tho, .22 is cheap as hell, so for rodent control or small hardcore bird hunting I guess it would work out.
freeridelifedotnet 1 year ago
@buzzclark Whats your price range
suferwill808 1 year ago
@suferwill808 $800.00-$1400 depending on what "goodies" are onboard. Sincerely, JAMES.
buzzclark 1 year ago
@buzzclark Well at that look at this ar-15 called the r-15 by remington it comes in a 223. plus you have a little money left over for some goodies and if you want go hunting with it in certain states for certain game like predator
suferwill808 1 year ago
@buzzclark
Knock off's? LOL! both the sig522 and s&w mp22-15 (search Nutnfancy on youtube) are very capable tactical .22's. Ergos are the same and both are great for training and building muscle memory etc. Regarding a .22 ar conversion? It can be done with either a complete upper at $300+ or a CMMG drop in kit for about $140 pretty cheap.
Seriously I would get a 556 and a separate .22 as 22's burn really dirty next to a .223. In my case I have a Sig M400 556 and a Sig 522(swat commando ver)
Toyman07 5 months ago
Not only is it good practice to wear ear protection no matter what you are shooting it's a must before you enter at most ranges. I'm not here to argue if that suppressor is real or fake but I can tell you that the average one in the $350-$450 price range drops the supersonic crack down 25-30 decibels with reg ammo so it's still around 100 decibels. Far from silenced! A person that has no idea about this or gets firearms training from CoD you will have zero clue what your even commenting about.
BrokenRRT 1 year ago 5
@BrokenRRT Thanks for actually knowing a little about suppressors. It is a real one. I was using Federal bulk pack .22LR from Wal-Mart at the time, so there was the crack. It is a real suppressor (doesn't belong to me). It is a Hearing Protection LLC "Checkmate" (the company now goes by Griffin Armament). Reviews are available if you Google. There's actually a few test videos of it from the manufacturer on YouTube where he uses subsonic ammo. It works rather well.
87bu11seye87 1 year ago 5
@87bu11seye87
for practice, at short range ..50yrds... I use 22 short subsonics...even without a silencer the report is similar to a pellet gun..
in a bolt action with silencer all you hear is the firing pin. you never bother the neighbors, even in the dead of night.
I have yet to see how well they cycle in my semi....haven't had the opportunity to go hunting this spring, but I'd like to see how they would perform.
FreedomClause 10 months ago
@87bu11seye87 I'm going to take a guess and say this is the Mossberg Tactical 22. AR??
looks like it very fun looking gun heard it has it's problems but hey if it shoots who gives a hoot am i right?
Mockingbird115 5 months ago
@Mockingbird115 This isn't a Mossberg. The charging handle and the forward assist on the mossberg are not functional 702 Plinkster receiver. This is a conversion of an AR style Rifle. I don't know if it's a Smith and Wesson M&P15, an Armalite, a Bushmaster, or a Colt, but it is not a Mossberg. Reliability: Mossberg or Colt clone are nearly identical, maybe a + to the Colt or colt clone, price: Mossberg hands down, accuracy....We'll see. I'll post a vid when I get my Mossberg....
OneForTheSouth 1 month ago
@BrokenRRT NO SUPPRESSOR drops the sound of the super sonic crack you idiot. The super sonic crack is the breaking of the sound barrier by the bullet itself. Are you honestly trying to say that a suppressor slows the projectile down below the speed of sound? A suppressor works by cooling the gases down before they hit the cold air around it most though the use of "baffles" inside it, thus eliminating the "clap" that comes from hot gases hitting cold gases.
fistofwarlords 1 year ago
@fistofwarlords I think what your issue is your just looking to deep into the point I was trying to make. I think anyone with a little intelligence understands what I was getting at. Sorry if I didn't word it as good as you would have. keep in mind ballistic crack depends on the speed (subsonic ammo) which in turn also depends on air temperature and atmospheric conditions. I also would do a wiki search under supressors so you can see that some do slow the velocity of the round by bleeding gas.
BrokenRRT 1 year ago
@BrokenRRT Bleeding gases? There is no gas bleeding in a suppressor. As soon as the bullet leaves the bore the gases are vented away. If anything a suppressor increases accuracy and helps stabilize velocity by stripping away gases from the heel/base as it leaves the bore thus stopping yaw through the use of asymmetric baffles. I own multiple suppressors and have a close personal friend who works for a company constructing them. Your knowledge is armchair at best.
fistofwarlords 11 months ago
@fistofwarlords Your going to stand by the fact that some suppressors do indeed bleed of gas? "Some suppressor designs, referred to as "integrals", do this by allowing gas to bleed off along the length of the barrel before the projectile exits."
BrokenRRT 11 months ago
@BrokenRRT A gun with an integral suppressor is simply a barrel built with a suppressor in it. Velocity isn't lost because the "gases bleeding off" but because the barrel is so much shorter and has less twist than a standard barrel. Even in those the gases don't "bleed off" but are still stripped away by the suppressor built into the barrel. Look at it like this: If you have a standard gun with a suppressor, velocity is normal, shorten the barrel though, and it will decrease.
fistofwarlords 11 months ago
@BrokenRRT Furthermore the claim that a suppressor lowers velocity truly shows your limited knowledge on this. Many suppressor companies have disproved this ignorant claim through the use of Digital Chronographs. In every case the Chronographs show an increase in velocity. They hypothesize that the suppressor is actually stopping projectile yaw which causes this increase. The added weight at the end of the barrel also lowers barrel harmonics and barrel rise which also increase accuracy.
fistofwarlords 11 months ago
@fistofwarlords Bro we can go round and round with this all day. Keep in mind that I did not say all Suppressors lower the velocity of the round and nor was I trying to state that in my first comment you had to attack me in and call me names to make yourself feel bigger and better. I guess your wife has left and you already killed the dog so it's my turn... To make it easy for you go to google and search " suppressor wiki" Read the last paragraph under "Subsonic ammunition". I can provide more.
BrokenRRT 11 months ago
To all assholes in general... It is good practice to always wear ear plugs when at the range. Maybe the 22 is suppressed, but the guy next to you has the Beowulf system. How are you gonna hear your Justin Beiber or lady Gaga when you put down your game controller and put on your big boy panties.
23firestorm 1 year ago
that shots .22 lol thats great... how much dose somthing liek that run form?
petkid4life 1 year ago
@petkid4life lrn2type, after you have mastered that nifty life skill, follow this link: lmgtfy.com/?q=Ar+15+conversion+kit
GBacon88 1 year ago
@GBacon88 nifty little skil... you mean airsoft?
petkid4life 1 year ago
wtf this looks like less recoil than an gbb
xXSuCkSeEdXx 1 year ago
Honestly I have a strong feeling thats not a real supressor. Its still sounds like all the rest of the non supressed .22lrs Ive delt with. Not to mention how skinny they thing is. Supressors are similar to car mufflers. There isnt enough room in that thing for the baffles required to supress the the report.
mjkeat 1 year ago
@mjkeat It's real (doesn't belong to me). It's a Hearing Protection LLC Checkmate (company now known as Griffin Armament). The reason it sounds loud is that I was using supersonic ammo. There was still a crack.
I also believe that it has something to do with my cameras microphone- normally with gunshots it will automatically adjust it's "gain" to account for the loud noise. With this suppressor, noises were around 100 db so it didn't need to reduce it's gain by as much, making it sound louder.
87bu11seye87 1 year ago 2
@87bu11seye87 Sounds good
mjkeat 1 year ago
@87bu11seye87 Ammo has a lot to do with audible noise. If you try to use a supersonic round with a supressor, you will hear a crack. However, if you use a subsonic round, it be more like a soft hand clap. You can check it out somewhere on Youtube as usual.
tiffyj85 1 year ago
@87bu11seye87 Its a wanna-be suppressor that actually does nothing. If you use sub-sonic ammo, you won't have enough kinetic energy to kill a cat, it would probably bounce off a window actually. And sub-sonic ammo is quiet unsilenced. That is just for looks, period, or for people that buy into that "protecting hearing" garbage. Another point is, if you have one of those on a .22, something is wrong with you.
marshalluniversity31 9 months ago
@mjkeat Where have you seen a can the size of a car muffler, Ive never seen one. In general .22lr cans are in the 1" - 1 1/4" range, To the OP, That must not be a pretty cheap company because that can is really doing nothing to suppress those rounds. For those that said "its a supersonic round" maybe out of a 20" barrel but out of a 16" barrel it stays right around subsonic speeds. I shoot fed BP out of mine and it sounds just like when Im shooting rem Subsonics. I use an AAC aviator.
h22ate 1 year ago
@h22ate I search and search my post aand couldnt find anything where I mentioned the words car or muffler. Next time read the entire post or properly quote the person youre responding to. Will that work bud?
mjkeat 1 year ago
@mjkeat I guess its pretty hard to find that rediculous post concidering you deleted it , I guess nobody can read the entire thing now. Go back to playing COD and learning about your "car muffler" suppressors from movies, while the rest of us purchase our NFA items and actually have hands on experience with using and owning them. Kids and "media" create a sadly stupid human.
h22ate 1 year ago
@h22ate Thats funny considering Im a combat vet. A real combat vet not some S-shop dude that pushed paper their entire deployment. I dont play your video games either, nor have I deleted any posts. I do however watch movies but have never seen a car muffler attached to the muzzle end of a firearm. Do you seriously have to make things up in order to have something to bitch about? You jumped into a conversation that not only had come to a conclussion but did not include you. It makes me sad.
mjkeat 1 year ago
@mjkeat You didnt delete your post, how come it shows that you deleted it. You get called out on something and you hide and cry about it. Being a combat vet doesnt mean anything unless you use the instruments noted, which im sure a man of your stature has not. I dont need to make anything up to comment on peoples idiocies I just like looking for dumb comments that people post about firearm related matter. You do realize this is a publicly displayed site where the whole world posts comments?
h22ate 1 year ago
@h22ate I do believe if I deleted something I would know. I have no reason to lie to anyone including you. I could care less. I do have experience with the topic at hand. You can make all the accusations you want. Neither one of use can prove or disprove anything being said. Concern was expressed and the OP solved it. Once again youre commenting on a situation that was settled and done. Enjoy your trolling.
mjkeat 1 year ago
@mjkeat Not to disagree with you mjkeat but I have seen a fellow weld a small straight 5 HP brigs and station muffler on the end of a .22 to suppress it. It worked but not as efficient as a real suppressor. Why? Well the diameter of the baffled holes the projectile travels through needs a certain size to properly strip away the gases to give them time to cool. A 5.56MM(.223) needs at least a 7.5MM diameter to travel through in the suppressor. Anything closer could possibly be catastrophic.
fistofwarlords 11 months ago
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h22ate 1 year ago
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mjkeat 1 year ago
thats a freakin 22 he does not even need earplugs when i wuz little that wuz a toy 2 me.
25Malachi 1 year ago
Hahahah earplugs
Streetmastaalex 1 year ago 13
@Streetmastaalex whats so funny about ear plugs? even with a .22 you should wear hearing protection, clearly you and the 3 people who thumbed you must play CoD.
11335569 1 year ago
@11335569 I take it you've never shot one. They are extremely quiet, and he's a SUPPRESSOR moron.
Streetmastaalex 1 year ago
@Streetmastaalex i take it you still lay CoD? hes using a suppressor with supersonic ammo, so he still gets a loud crack, and its just good practice, but im done arguing with you your clearly an expert on firearms.
11335569 1 year ago
@11335569 Okay keyboard commando. You wear those earplugs with your suppressed .22 ammo. And god forbid someone sneezes within 5 of you or you'll go deaf won't you.
Streetmastaalex 1 year ago
@Streetmastaalex haha u havnt had your ear drum blow or youd prob be wearing them too jack ass
irishpker27 1 year ago
can you kill a small rat with a 22.cal?
tudilautaru 1 year ago
@tudilautaru i can kill an small rat with my .117 air rifle, so i think a .22 will be pretty efective.
curseofa5r5a 1 year ago
@tudilautaru You can kill almost any small/medium game with the .22
adribram12 1 year ago
@adribram12 you can kill a bear if you shoot it enough times ;)
STARTmotionfilms 1 year ago
lol recoil fail
sdemp321 1 year ago
@sdemp321 you do know its a .22, right? have you ever fired a gun
Rambowookie 1 year ago
@Rambowookie no dude im only 10
sdemp321 1 year ago
@sdemp321 You probably play WAY to much CoD. The AR-15/m4/M16 in CoD all fire the .223/5.56 NATO round, both which have moderate recoil. The AR-15 in this video has had the .223 bolt taken out an a .22 "conversion" bolt put in. .22's have less recoil than a cap gun.
notfromphoenix 1 year ago
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
narcocorridosmex 1 year ago
Darknal is what happens when brothers and sisters reproduce.
bodybager 1 year ago
@bodybager hahah that's awesome
littlenicky33 1 year ago
i like that paint job
SpdDemon69 1 year ago
Awesome trigger controle and good stance! thats how you're supposed to shoot.. good job!
araknydp 1 year ago
dude did u change the front hand guard and the stock is tht wut the conversion kit it/ also inst the ar 15 a costumeizible version of the m4 and m,16
darknal87 1 year ago
@darknal87 Faggot! Go back to your airsoft guns, you baby dick retard.
Garuda1337 1 year ago
@Garuda1337 wait wut am i doing bad u dik face fkin imagrant go to hell all i asked was the ar 15 a cuztomizable version my dad owns m16 so im curious u dik face burn in ur moms pussy
darknal87 1 year ago
@darknal87 Shut the fuck up. If you listen to Adam Lambert, by law, you are not allowed to own firearms. You homo douchebag.
Garuda1337 1 year ago
@Garuda1337 dam many peple do and wut in fuks sake am i doin/ i own fire arms my dad does and 2 of all stfu already u imature bich sttop cursing and hideing between internant and life u homo ass fkin quir holy fkin religous hindu
darknal87 1 year ago
@darknal87 ... really? go back to kindergarten
cavaliersfan08 1 year ago
@Garuda1337 ar 15 is probably the most customizable assault rifle ever with the right kits you could make one shoot a 50 cal i was at a gun show yesterday and they had grenade launchers. while the grenades arent legal flars and smoke nades are good to go
Seidnu 1 year ago
@Seidnu What? That has nothing to do with my point I was trying to make. I just hate seeing these 12 year olds that comment on gun videos from their vast experience with airsoft guns and Modern Warfare. It gets really rather obnoxious.
Garuda1337 1 year ago
@Garuda1337 hey dude just becuz ppl play call of duty doesnt meen they know guns i meen i play cod and i know just about evrything about guns
lionidascs5 1 year ago
@lionidascs5 Probably because you're an inbred redneck. All you guys do is lounge around, shoot guns, and fuck your close relatives.
Garuda1337 1 year ago
@Garuda1337 hey we also drink beer and i wouldnt mind tapping my cousins
BYU1988 1 year ago
@BYU1988 tapping your cousins
Shazee083 1 year ago
@Garuda1337
Funny how I live in the suburbs, shoot guns, go to school, work, keep up with politics, read. I don't think your stereotype is any good.
RyanR3volution 1 year ago
Dear Santa...
TheCruzmeister 1 year ago
I had a go on one of these last night...
where can I buy one!
And for how much?!?!
it was awsome:)
I have only been using ancient bolt action rifles prior to it.
EvilLamas 1 year ago
that was still pretty loud for a suppresor.. i was using federal bulk from walmart and got it to about the sound of fingers snapping...
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what kind of suppressor are you using?
xethanxflipsburgers 1 year ago
@xethanxflipsburgers agreed that was a shitty suppressor if id ever heard one
Forbidenangel0 1 year ago
Nice looking weapon, was it duracoated?
comunisttanpon 1 year ago
how much is a ar-15?
Mrextremeo 1 year ago
@un4m3d4
I hope you're joking, as this comment is nonsense. Firstly, .22LR doesn't develop enough energy to penetrate a target. Furthermore, energy is a function of an object's mass and velocity. Subsonic ammo dumps substantially less energy into a target, and anyone who's familiar both types can attest to this.
opmike343 1 year ago
@opmike343
I should add the qualifier to my previous post of :"penetrate 'completely' though most targets." Surely, .22LR will penetrate through thin targets, but my comments on energy still stand.
opmike343 1 year ago
i love the .22 colt m4 it is a amazing and fun gun to shoot and cheap ammo can soot all day on a box on 550 for 18 dollars !
gamakatsu87 1 year ago
@gamakatsu87 i heard the coltwas terrible and the m&p was the one to buy
devildawg85matt 1 year ago
Now all you have to do is grow some balls and get one that shoots the 5.56.
ImSneakyPete 1 year ago
@ImSneakyPete , read the title and you'll see that it is already a 5.56 chambered rifle. He's just using a conversion kit.
gunguy999 1 year ago
@gunguy999 My bad dude. i saw .22 in the title and thought "It shoots .22 bullets".
ImSneakyPete 1 year ago
Who seriously wears ear protection shooting 22 cal shells? And with a suppressor. Although it is obviously a cheap one, its not modulating the crack at all.
dante666diaz 1 year ago
@dante666diaz I normally dont wear ear protection for the .22's I shoot, but sometimes I will get a bad casing that basically blows up in the chamber and it makes a sound close to a .223, I guess some people are just afraid that 1 out of a thousand of shells might blow up on them.
3mealsaday 1 year ago
@dante666diaz are you too stupid to see the OTHER ranges and OTHER people there? where someone might come and start cracking off a .338 Lap Mag? or 7.62? etc...
Sn1p3ro3o5 1 year ago
Very nice! I hope you have had the chance to fire subsonic rounds - so much more enjoyable. I have a YHM Phantom 5.56 can that I shoot subsonic .22LR through; it's pretty sweet, although I can only get crappy Remington SubSonics up here in Alaska. You should have really cut off the comments, though, lots of little kids like to run their mouths about crap they have no idea about. Again, though, thanks for the vid!
jkrichardson2006 1 year ago
for one i dnt play modern warfare and another i do own guns and i do know what im talking about
hemicuda123456 1 year ago
that silencer had to be fake cause u shouldnt of hear it fire at all or at least not that loud
hemicuda123456 1 year ago
@hemicuda123456
or he is using high volacity amunition.
Striker51z 1 year ago
@hemicuda123456 ur an idiot, gtfo.
m4xn00b 1 year ago
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Drifter1821 1 year ago
@hemicuda123456 Suppressors only make a gun truly quiet if you're using subsonic rounds.
Drifter1821 1 year ago
cant you run a .223 can on a 22? same diameter.
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 1 year ago
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 no becouse the length of the shell and the chamber would get practicaly blown up from the power difference. I hope that answers your question
punisher102938 1 year ago
@punisher102938 So the gasses would build up too much from the suppression power of the .223 can?
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 1 year ago
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 no becouse of the length of the shell and the pressure of the powder difference would wreck your gun. I hope that answeres your question.
:o)
punisher102938 1 year ago
@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 no because of the length of the shell and powder difference.
punisher102938 1 year ago
i mean to make it full auto
xxReaverXXCerberusxx 1 year ago
22LR rounds absolutely have no recoil n if ur lookin for high capacity mags n ur in cali the easiest is just go to Arizona n buy urself som mags ther n bring em over, anyhow i rechamberd my AR15 for .223 rouns n replaced it with a new rDIAS or u can try to file it down
xxReaverXXCerberusxx 1 year ago
@xxReaverXXCerberusxx You do that and you get locked up for 15 years when ur caught with em.
scuds03 1 year ago
@scuds03 yea maybe possesion of the 30 round mags but my Drop In Auto Sear was registered so im good for now
xxReaverXXCerberusxx 1 year ago
@xxReaverXXCerberusxx Yea california is really gay when it comes to guns. You can have mags that can hold over 10 rounds but only if they are disassembled wtf
scuds03 1 year ago
that recoil looks unberable
yoyoma102 1 year ago
@yoyoma102 <insert major sarcasm quotes at "unbearable">
Lhikanpickshisnose 1 year ago
i guess the .22LR is cheaper comparing to other .30
Shazee083 1 year ago
Amg, think that's the most beautiful AR-15 I've ever seen /drool
Yumyumtuna 1 year ago
Neck fat
Fuck3288 1 year ago
@Fuck3288 hahhahahah
Fuck3288 1 year ago
Nice.
Still seems kinda loud for a .22 with a suppressor. Maybe because of the echo
PSPmaster321 1 year ago
He's using supersonic ammo. Suppressors do nothing to reduce the supersonic crack of a bullet. Subsonic ammo will be quieter.
opmike343 1 year ago 23
Oh, I didn't see the description on the right :P
You're right, thanks.
PSPmaster321 1 year ago
@opmike343 surly the vid should be called AR-15 w/ .22M2 conversion kit and supressor
jitzero 1 year ago
@jitzero
There's nothing wrong with the video's name. He's shooting .22LR out of an AR-15 with a conversion kit. I fail to see how this description is doing a poor job to explain what we're seeing.
opmike343 1 year ago
@opmike343 i was stating that a supersonic bullet would be a .22 mach2 rather than a .22 long hence the supersonic noise being louder than the silencer
jitzero 1 year ago