well, this is the most impressive battle system, (in my personal opinion).
FFXIII disappoints me a bit with its Paradigm thing which 'lacks' something;
You play FFXII and you can summon, quicken, magic, boom or run away, or tour around the fields with scenery and wonder. - you will realize it 'gives' you freedom to plan your own strategy.
But in FFXIII, camera is fixed, enemy is hard, the win/lose is 'just' about Paradigm - thus it lacks rhythm, freedom of choices and 'exploration'.
@anataria this is also my favorite battle system of the entire series, however, you gotta admit that the esper's system is kinda bad, they are almost useless. SE tried to solve this problem on the international zodiac version, in this one you can control the esper's gambits and use their final attack whenever you want, wich i think would be better included on the first version, also their HPs are quite low.
Most people said that this battle system is suck so much, can't control stuff, sucks story etc. . You know what, the battle system, the characters, the story, is the reason why Final Fantasy XII exist! The reason why it is special, which is different from other final fantasy series. . So don't give a shit about this
@yukiharvestfans True. I've come to realize after years of being a fan, that FF has the worst fans. They want to be fed the same recycled crap forever.
I really don't understand why people keep hating on Final Fantasy XII. It's one of the most non-linear out of them all and has a very strong RPG element. Yeah, the story isn't amazing but it's not bad at all. Maybe it's just because it's radically different, and most don't like it for that sole reason
I loved this game and I loved the dialogue and the story within this game. What turned a lot of people off from it was that the character you control was NOT the main character. The development of the important characters like Ashe and THEIR story is what's actually most important to this game. Being the "tag along" guy (even if you're the strongest of the group) was a nice, refreshing change I think.
Great dialogue, great story, GREAT voice actors, great gameplay system.
That's true. FF12 has the best graphics on ps2. Its graphics are absolutely beautiful, and I say this even I own a ps3, too. Good that FF12 looks good even in a Full HD TV.
i liked this game, thes graphics is SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL, the characters are nice, the story are very nice for RPG padrons, but this battle system IS MADNESS, in the easy battles barely works but in the hard battles IS IMPOSSIBLE manage so many crazy commands, the only way is level-up your characters SO HARD and destroy your enemys with one hit.. is the fucking only way
There are actually reviewers commenting that the gambit and license system was too complicated... WTF, they were so simple but so great that I loved it.
I liked this game. People say it sucked but I think they forget how annoying random battles are. Turn based is fine but its dumb when its like ff8 and you take 2 steps towards a save point then the battle screen scene starts.
yup, ive been playing this game now for only 4 days now and this is DEFINITELY better than final fantasy X (didnt play X2 yet though coz cant find a copy yet)...i hate the sphere parts of it,, this is a masterpiece game!! thumbs up pro gamers
i sold my ps2 :( i loved the gameplay but the story could have used some romance
or a bigger spark
im gunna miss fighting monsters four hours on ends and stratigizing against bosses i have no chance against yet i always pulled through due to quick thinking and random magick combos
im gonna miss both ashe and balthier to me they had the largest roles
To be perfectly honest, I would prefer this game over 10. I love how you can travel and fight at the same time. I do admit the story wasnot great since it was more of a political thing, but still I enjyed playing this. I put in almost 200 hours so thats sayingsomething.
This game was OUTSTANDING! It's battle system was great and it felt like a real RPG with lots of fun and great gameplay.
All of those who say this game sucked, are a bunch of 12 year old nerds who could not understand how to play this game or how the gambit system worked. It's a FF game where you need much more strategy than every other FF game.
Only true RPG gamers will enjoy this game. Storyline aside (because it wasnt good), the game was very well done with over 100 guaranteed hours of gameplay and plenty of side quests. It takes a little while to get started, but once your team is about half-assembled, the game picks up. Everything was top notch for its time- music, voices, graphics and gameplay. If you dont enjoy playing this game you are not a true RPG gamer!
I am very surprised here. At times I hated Final Fantasy XII. It just lacked soul. After playing Final Fantasy XIII, I think of this very fondly. This had the soul of Final Fantasy, whereas its sequel didn't.
XIII just seemed to lose something. The combat looked great, but didn't have the complexity of this game. Or the fun. Grinding in XII was fun, whereas XIII felt like a chore.
This game is complete shit.. Its so fucking linear, I know the first 20 hours or so, of 13 are, but thats to welcome new fans.. This game on the other hand is just pure bullshit.
I personally like FF XII battle system. If you want to get most out of it you need to set the battle into active, good/decent gambit set up, and you(the gamer) must do everything that your gambit lacks. Good gambit is not as complex as many people would think, the main purpose of gambits is to prevent players from having to cast temporary spells over and over again by selecting them. Gambit true purpose is not designed for the lazy players, but to assist players instead.
I never liked playing 12 on wait mode. Active mode was more fun. I think thats what I like about 12's battle system is that there are different ways you can do battle. You can be lazy and just turn on all the gambits for all party members and just watch them fight, or just turn off the gambits on the party leader and take control which is what I do all the time when I play 12, OR turn off PL and the rest of the party's gambits and take full control over every one
Battles are like Knights of the old Republic, which I also found uninteresting and lacked strategy... Or the will to bother. Gambits take forever to set up and then hey! you're having to fight differently so back to the drawing board so often...So you end up having to juggle 3 chars and stop-starting for every command. Active doesnt work well cus all your decision-making time just gets your ass handed. Overly cheery gay music for an FF. It really showed in this one that Nobuo is gone. <.<
This fighting style bores me to the maximum, i want to take control of all my party members in turned based , not setting stupid gambits and watching them fight, When i was lvl 20, i didnt have to do anything, my chat would attack, the rest would do the rest , now where is the fun in that
I've said a million times and I'll say it again: Gambits are for LAZY people. I've done great just by choosing everything manually for my characters. The only times I use Gambits, and that's just only two or four slots for each character, are for the harder boss battles, and EVEN then I just put one character (normally a healer/buffer) on gambits and manually work with the other two. It's even more exciting when using Active Mode instead of Wait mode. It makes you think on your feet.
I have so many xbox360 games. Mw2 Fifa10 a lot! But no game is THAT good like this one. I love this game so much! The battle system was great, I loved it. to find out any little detail... just great!
ok yeah i'll accept the fact that the story isnt as tight as the otherrs but dammm you gotta agree the fighting is quite addictive. i really like this tactical side of ff. i mean this battle system really made me wanna keep fighting and exploring the immense and wonderful world that this game had to offer. i was in awe at the small details of each place as i fought monsters.
@fize4ever trust me, before I got this game, my uncle had it as a demo with the DQ8. I fell in love with the demo so much that I kept replaying it. plus i fell in love with penelo, I just love her! I really liked the boss battle music as well, ist too epic. I remember getting this game and a gamestop clerk telling me not to buy this game, but i did anyway. look this game up on gamespot, it has a score of 9.0 and people hate it?
As long as they keep all my favorite spells (and somehow make them work) I'm fine with the new battle system. Sure, it's not "classic" but its nice being able to see what you have to fight before the actual battle, and equip accordingly and whatnot..
this game was so weak compared to the other fantasy's. the story was sound but the deviated from the original battle system too much. they should have either stuck with their traditional system of implored the kh battle system format.
I disagree i thought the story was poor to others, particualry when comparing it to the epicness of ff10 and ff7.. The usual format for battling needed updating otherwise it'd be boring! The new one is much more challenging and 'realistic' using not just high levels but more skill, speed and thinking invloved.. proper strategies. The game draws you in and involves you more. Probably not my fave ff but definatley a good step forward
I did aswell, i couldn't get used to the battle system but i left it for a while came back to it and now it makes me CREEAAAM. Really good fun challenging
I definitely agree with you 100% on the story part. It was weak compared to others. I also like the intense strategy involved in FFXII, different in a good way.
every ff game is diferent story place and "time" ff is not a "line" game every one is independent... i think its impossible to say the time on one compared to other... its like 2 diferent movies with diferent stories and worlds...
Under 'options' you can turn off the lines, but it makes battles a lot harder. You can also increase the battle speed under options, but if that isn't good enough for you equip your characters with cat-ear hoods (which usually more than double attack speed) If you haven't unlocked the ability to buy the hood, you haven't played that far into the game =)
yeah XP ive been really buzy lately, and thanks im going to play it first thing tomorrow, I see you got alot of crud there XD and new ppl XD To tell you the truth, im actually in some kind of underground place fighting rats and fish-things hahahah i got the game like a month and a half ago XP im grateful you took some time to help me and i know ill enjoy the game more then i would have if you didn't XD thx again :3
they using job system or something similar for characters in this game...created the different for each character....example fran is more better in magic and long range weapon such bow since she looks like elf type...
I disagree (With KevFFvii). The Final Fantasy series generally has battle systems in which the player must think strategically, even if the amount of abilities limits that line of thinking. While the camera angle they've chosen normally is used for hack'n'slash type games, it still works well enough for the type of game they have here, and the use of random battles like with earlier games really detaches the player from the environment they're exploring.
im sorry but i didn't like this game, cuz the battle system wuz ridiculous, after i choose 2 attack, i gotta wait 2 do it while the enemy gets 2 slap mee up.
I think Square is playing around with the battle system, they feel like the one they've used for multiple games is getting old which is why we've seen a lot of change in the battle systems in the past games (10, 12 and 13.)
yeah, i agree.. i think they tried something new on ff12.. but honestly.. for me.. i didnt like it.. maybe its because i got used to the classic gameplay which is per turn based. :)
but i apreciate their effort, the graphics in this game is still great :)
Man what the fuck are you saying? this was a horrible game, by far the worst of the series, this doesnt even get close to Final Fantasy X, even the old FFVI is better than this piece of trash i enjoyed more the crap X-2 at least everybody knew since the begining that it was going to be a retard game but this? puffff.
FF XIII and vs XIII look a lot better than this piece of shit
did you play it for 200+ hours, or do you just review games you have little experience with? I've played it upwards of 250 hours and love it. It might be because I got used to it, and the person playing on this video is incredibly slow. I don't see how this game is worse then FFX when in FFX you have to wait for cut scenes, wait to fight monsters, wait turns to fight monsters, and do everything at least half the speed that you have in FXII.
You know shit about FF, you stupid fuck, this is a shitty game and i dont need to explain myself to a rookie like you, who likes this better than FFX, cause is a little bit more quick? you must be retard... the long cutscenes, the wait for turns battle sistem, all that shit you dont like is an essential part of a FF game
thus, if you dont like FFX cause of those stuffs then you simply MUST NOT PLAY A FF game.
Final Fantasy XII to me is not FF, its just a fucking rip of of Vagrant Story, but whereas Vagrant Story has a pretty damm good plot and was a good game, FFXII was pathetic and poor... sorry dude but FFXII is a piece of shit and you are a dumb for like it
What are you saying? That you're a gamer who will only play FFX style games? It's not a rip off of the Vagrant story because they are indeed different, even you admitted that.
It's not a poor quality game, just a poor quality mindset.
Excuse me for being a rookie, I happen to have plenty of japanese games, and have a broad range of games that I play, not only FF games.
I played back and forth turn taking in the last 5 out of 13 FF games, why the hell would I want it in modern gaming?
hahahaha you´re a fucking retard dont you know that? when did i say im only a FFX style gamer? for fuck sake learn how to read mister, i just said that you cant play a FF game and then expect it to dont have all the own characteristics of the FF franchise, so if they wanna make an action game or a Vagrant Story style RPG then they should just call it Vagrant Story 2 or put it another fucking name, BUT NOT THE FINAL FANTASY!!! IT´S TO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT? fuck off rookie
Whatever.... none of you FF will ever understand how a real Final Fantasy fan feels when aberrations like this one comes out to the market having nothing to do with a FF game but well it doesnt matter as long as it comes from Square Enix and have a "FF name", it seems to be like following to your logic a Resident Evil can work without being a survival horror, or Silent Hill can work without the mist or having any connection to the nightmare town
By the way, when you use wording and language it makes you sound more half witted, then simple putting your point across in a respectful manner...
and again, it's not the vagrant story just because it has action. just as FFXIII isn't Rogue Galaxy because it has action. I will agree with you on the FF fan thing. I don't fantasize over the FF games like you do, I in fact play a lot of games, and FFXII happened to be one of many styles, and titles I liked a lot.
Final Fantasy IS A RPG and must be forever and ever!!!!!!! not an action game not a fucking shooter (dirge of cerberus... buarrggg) not a Vagrant Story, not a Devil May Cry, not a fuckin Star Wars shit.... NOOOO!!! FINAL FANTASY MUST KEEP ITS OWN ESSENCE and that is the reason im in love with the XIII cause it seems like finally Square openned their eyes and went back to the classic style, if i want action i´ll go with God Wars ior DMC or whatever, anyway you are not right sir
If I don't like the FFX game I shouldn't play it? that's exactly what I intend not to do. I can play any game I buy, or rent, and I can have a valued opinion of anything I've played plenty of hours on. Whether you like the idea or not is your choice.
You haven't really said "WHY" you don't like it, just that you don't like it. What serious flaw is there to FFXII that other games don't have?
blah blah blah STFU already, i didnt like crap fantasy xii because that game is an insult to any "FINAL FANTASY FAN" simple as that, and i dont care how many fuckin hours do you spend masturbating in front of your fuckin TV playing this crap, it is your problem but please dont say this is better than the other FF games made before cause it´s not
I would like to say that Final Fantasy 12's overall gameplay structure is almost completely different from Vagrant Story. It's actually quite a bit more comparable to Final Fantasy games that used the RTB system from Final Fantasy 4, except in reverse. In Final Fantasy 4 and onward, the bar at the bottom would fill up, and then you would be able to select an attack. Here, it is set that you select an attack, and then you wait for the bar to fill up. :0
i think this battle system is awsome. it just different thats y people hate it. th e only thing i dont like thou is that so many of the big monsters hav that stupid ring around their neck and feet; i dont hate the ring it just too many of them have it.
people hate it because it's boring, you can only effectivly have control of one character at a time, and it's a lot harder to apply strategy to, not because it's different. It also seems a lot like an online games battle system.
FFX was the best in my opinion cause anyone can understand the system.
FFXll was the worst since while your waiting to hit the enemy they already hit you muiltple time before you hit them but i guess others out there understand the system but it's too complex for me.
I really don't think the battle system was to complex at all... if anything i would have thought more ff fans would have liked to step out side the same system every single game (Turn based) .. this style is turn based in a way... but no random in counters... which was the biggest and best change for me... yeah it plays like an MMO but it does not take away from the greatness it is... it matures what is already expected of rpgs in the first place... at least thats what i thing...
the nostalgia... IT BURNS!!!
Dylan78ful 1 day ago
I want this game on PSN!!!
RudeDudeKB 1 week ago
the tactic system is great and clever
but the espers are useless
i never used and needed them and i played the game 100%!
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ACaazTv 3 weeks ago
Why the monsters in that place are weak? ._.
MrLARSAFERRINASSOLID 1 month ago
HI-ETHER?.... I NEVER GET HI ETHERS IN CHEST, THATS BULLSHIT...
raimercerus 1 month ago
well, this is the most impressive battle system, (in my personal opinion).
FFXIII disappoints me a bit with its Paradigm thing which 'lacks' something;
You play FFXII and you can summon, quicken, magic, boom or run away, or tour around the fields with scenery and wonder. - you will realize it 'gives' you freedom to plan your own strategy.
But in FFXIII, camera is fixed, enemy is hard, the win/lose is 'just' about Paradigm - thus it lacks rhythm, freedom of choices and 'exploration'.
anataria 3 months ago
@anataria this is also my favorite battle system of the entire series, however, you gotta admit that the esper's system is kinda bad, they are almost useless. SE tried to solve this problem on the international zodiac version, in this one you can control the esper's gambits and use their final attack whenever you want, wich i think would be better included on the first version, also their HPs are quite low.
raul1505 1 month ago
this game rocks, loved it
MgoSolidEnzo 3 months ago
i still rather play this than the four heros of light, the new one on ds
naturalmusic333 4 months ago
This game any good? I have a somewhat small attention span. or maybe i should start with X?
OBJACULATION 5 months ago
@OBJACULATION X is million times better.
SickneZZ2 5 months ago
@SickneZZ2 Indeed.
Kiewicz92 4 months ago
@SickneZZ2 Indeed.
Kiewicz92 4 months ago
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@OBJACULATION That's because you're dumb.
TyroneTasty 1 month ago
The ones who hate FFXII is because of the following reasons.
1- They didn't play Final Fantasy Tactics, one of the most amazing FF titles.
2- They didn't play FFXII fully through the story and most of the game places
3- They got low grades in History class.
ddensu 5 months ago 6
@ddensu what does FF tatics gotta do with this game?
neoneo23 1 month ago
@neoneo23 It shares almost the same design team (graphic designer, music, director, etc) that created the Ivalice franchise within FF multiverses.
ddensu 1 month ago
Most people said that this battle system is suck so much, can't control stuff, sucks story etc. . You know what, the battle system, the characters, the story, is the reason why Final Fantasy XII exist! The reason why it is special, which is different from other final fantasy series. . So don't give a shit about this
yukiharvestfans 5 months ago 2
@yukiharvestfans True. I've come to realize after years of being a fan, that FF has the worst fans. They want to be fed the same recycled crap forever.
TyroneTasty 1 month ago
I really don't understand why people keep hating on Final Fantasy XII. It's one of the most non-linear out of them all and has a very strong RPG element. Yeah, the story isn't amazing but it's not bad at all. Maybe it's just because it's radically different, and most don't like it for that sole reason
Neonman5 5 months ago
I loved this game and I loved the dialogue and the story within this game. What turned a lot of people off from it was that the character you control was NOT the main character. The development of the important characters like Ashe and THEIR story is what's actually most important to this game. Being the "tag along" guy (even if you're the strongest of the group) was a nice, refreshing change I think.
Great dialogue, great story, GREAT voice actors, great gameplay system.
One of my favs.
KikiTottori 5 months ago
Head Butt
Savunen 5 months ago
Oh boy....so intuitive... I feel like I'm REALLY not there.
GabinRevolution 6 months ago
That's true. FF12 has the best graphics on ps2. Its graphics are absolutely beautiful, and I say this even I own a ps3, too. Good that FF12 looks good even in a Full HD TV.
RevanMarek79 6 months ago
My favourites in order: IX, XII, X, VII, VIII, III, XIII
Wierd order compared to most peoples I know...
nomis101uk 7 months ago
God I miss this game. I've not been able to play in 3 years and don't know when I can again, lol.
The2010VIP1 7 months ago
Ashe is so cool
mrbloodshugar 7 months ago
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How do you block attacks ?
RuaraidhSimTramps 8 months ago
/doge ?
RuaraidhSimTramps 8 months ago
best game in the world.
well \kinda..
voidancient 9 months ago
@voidancient - Actually, it is.
marzec 9 months ago
best game in the world.
voidancient 9 months ago
i bought dragon quest 8 for this demo a few years back & ended up liking dragon quest. But i still liked the demo
XxRusty96xX 9 months ago
i personally liked this style the best because the random battles were pretty much as annoying as encountering pokemon in a pokemon game...
KingdomSlayah 10 months ago
i liked this game, thes graphics is SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL, the characters are nice, the story are very nice for RPG padrons, but this battle system IS MADNESS, in the easy battles barely works but in the hard battles IS IMPOSSIBLE manage so many crazy commands, the only way is level-up your characters SO HARD and destroy your enemys with one hit.. is the fucking only way
fha64 10 months ago
There are actually reviewers commenting that the gambit and license system was too complicated... WTF, they were so simple but so great that I loved it.
Deffpoised 11 months ago
I liked this game. People say it sucked but I think they forget how annoying random battles are. Turn based is fine but its dumb when its like ff8 and you take 2 steps towards a save point then the battle screen scene starts.
sunset261 1 year ago
@sunset261 FF8 was stupid in the first place. The "Junction" system was just tedious.
8BitAwesome 11 months ago
yup, ive been playing this game now for only 4 days now and this is DEFINITELY better than final fantasy X (didnt play X2 yet though coz cant find a copy yet)...i hate the sphere parts of it,, this is a masterpiece game!! thumbs up pro gamers
anubapestenaman 1 year ago
FF12 was way, way, WAY better than FF13.
Galvanizer67 1 year ago
i sold my ps2 :( i loved the gameplay but the story could have used some romance
or a bigger spark
im gunna miss fighting monsters four hours on ends and stratigizing against bosses i have no chance against yet i always pulled through due to quick thinking and random magick combos
im gonna miss both ashe and balthier to me they had the largest roles
inuyasha9454 1 year ago
To be perfectly honest, I would prefer this game over 10. I love how you can travel and fight at the same time. I do admit the story wasnot great since it was more of a political thing, but still I enjyed playing this. I put in almost 200 hours so thats sayingsomething.
uberkewl19 1 year ago
This game was OUTSTANDING! It's battle system was great and it felt like a real RPG with lots of fun and great gameplay.
All of those who say this game sucked, are a bunch of 12 year old nerds who could not understand how to play this game or how the gambit system worked. It's a FF game where you need much more strategy than every other FF game.
mariosx92 1 year ago
Only true RPG gamers will enjoy this game. Storyline aside (because it wasnt good), the game was very well done with over 100 guaranteed hours of gameplay and plenty of side quests. It takes a little while to get started, but once your team is about half-assembled, the game picks up. Everything was top notch for its time- music, voices, graphics and gameplay. If you dont enjoy playing this game you are not a true RPG gamer!
boglemeaster 1 year ago
I am very surprised here. At times I hated Final Fantasy XII. It just lacked soul. After playing Final Fantasy XIII, I think of this very fondly. This had the soul of Final Fantasy, whereas its sequel didn't.
XIII just seemed to lose something. The combat looked great, but didn't have the complexity of this game. Or the fun. Grinding in XII was fun, whereas XIII felt like a chore.
Stebealinator 1 year ago
this battle system is way better then the xlll i love it that when you fight you can move and behind the enemy.
DBZGTE 1 year ago
this is the best battle system i've seen in Final Fantasy for PS2 !
cssorbit 1 year ago
i LOVED this battle system, it was nice to get away just standing there and taking a beating, while u could walk around and take a beating =P
Fangs231 1 year ago
this game looks like it sucks
masterdelrap 1 year ago
@masterdelrap Trust me : This game is the best in the world!!!
KapitanBomba11 1 month ago
Perfect Final Fantasy.
Volviert 1 year ago
I want a demo like that :( it would be fun to try :P
TheOneOwner 1 year ago
This game was loaded with sub quest and boss battles. Not that Final Fantasy 13 bull crap they got now. Man, what a disappointment on a franchise.
fabulous1849 1 year ago
I remember playing this demo, but I completely forgot what game it came with. I was like WTF....THIS...is FF?!?!?! awesome
ShadowCrowX 1 year ago
This game is complete shit.. Its so fucking linear, I know the first 20 hours or so, of 13 are, but thats to welcome new fans.. This game on the other hand is just pure bullshit.
sicklydisturbing 1 year ago
@sicklydisturbing if you think that this game is linear you're fucking retarded!!!
procom94 1 year ago
@procom94 I agree with you : He is fucking retarded!!!
KapitanBomba11 1 month ago
I personally like FF XII battle system. If you want to get most out of it you need to set the battle into active, good/decent gambit set up, and you(the gamer) must do everything that your gambit lacks. Good gambit is not as complex as many people would think, the main purpose of gambits is to prevent players from having to cast temporary spells over and over again by selecting them. Gambit true purpose is not designed for the lazy players, but to assist players instead.
aauru 1 year ago
I never liked playing 12 on wait mode. Active mode was more fun. I think thats what I like about 12's battle system is that there are different ways you can do battle. You can be lazy and just turn on all the gambits for all party members and just watch them fight, or just turn off the gambits on the party leader and take control which is what I do all the time when I play 12, OR turn off PL and the rest of the party's gambits and take full control over every one
XenonVincent7 1 year ago
havent played this game, but after watching this video i font know why ppl have a prob with 13's battle sys..
jnrbshp 1 year ago
Battles are like Knights of the old Republic, which I also found uninteresting and lacked strategy... Or the will to bother. Gambits take forever to set up and then hey! you're having to fight differently so back to the drawing board so often...So you end up having to juggle 3 chars and stop-starting for every command. Active doesnt work well cus all your decision-making time just gets your ass handed. Overly cheery gay music for an FF. It really showed in this one that Nobuo is gone. <.<
Josith13 1 year ago
This battle system looks beast it differs dramatically form the old battle system. I like it.
themaximum97 1 year ago 21
I've played almost every Final Fantasy, this is one of my favourites, better yet, I love ALL FF games XD they're all awesome!!
PKUltimaga 1 year ago
i didnt really like this game. i felt it was just a bunch of running around :/ but the battle system was bomb!
greenk15 2 years ago
I played this game like 10 times ad the lat I spend 500 hours. just AWESOME!
Mature 2 years ago
The battle system in this game is wank
tGJimo 2 years ago
THATS CHEATING BICH
courtneymcqn6 2 years ago
This fighting style bores me to the maximum, i want to take control of all my party members in turned based , not setting stupid gambits and watching them fight, When i was lvl 20, i didnt have to do anything, my chat would attack, the rest would do the rest , now where is the fun in that
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themixingitsession 2 years ago
I've said a million times and I'll say it again: Gambits are for LAZY people. I've done great just by choosing everything manually for my characters. The only times I use Gambits, and that's just only two or four slots for each character, are for the harder boss battles, and EVEN then I just put one character (normally a healer/buffer) on gambits and manually work with the other two. It's even more exciting when using Active Mode instead of Wait mode. It makes you think on your feet.
themixingitsession 2 years ago
dude ur a bitch
TheGamersEye 2 years ago
definitely the fighting is its highest points
warnexus 2 years ago
loved this game soooo much...FF XII fan forever!
kriosjan 2 years ago 3
I have so many xbox360 games. Mw2 Fifa10 a lot! But no game is THAT good like this one. I love this game so much! The battle system was great, I loved it. to find out any little detail... just great!
BenSchw2 2 years ago
watch FINAL FANTASY XII comes to america and see what he's got to say... and agree
critiqual009 2 years ago
ok yeah i'll accept the fact that the story isnt as tight as the otherrs but dammm you gotta agree the fighting is quite addictive. i really like this tactical side of ff. i mean this battle system really made me wanna keep fighting and exploring the immense and wonderful world that this game had to offer. i was in awe at the small details of each place as i fought monsters.
indigoprint 2 years ago
Yeah I must agree with you, the battle stuff was amazing!!!
emscott32 2 years ago
This game was really good, but the only problem was that when most bosses got low on HP thier defense would go up so high.
drivenrage133 2 years ago 2
i loved the battle system in ff12. but the story not too great but it was ok
theriz15 2 years ago 3
the demo dude has low lvls lol
robhatescomments 2 years ago
dosnet vaan have any magic on the demo version?
ReiaSage 2 years ago
WHAT?
KyoukouSuneku 2 years ago
whoops i meant basch sorry
ReiaSage 2 years ago
i never played 12 and after seeing this i don't think i ever will. looks pretty confusing to me
napalmman 2 years ago
this game is very simple with good (but not great) story
it's funny how people hated it while it sucked me to the RPG gameplay system :)
and because of it i played alot of ff games but yet this one still out rank them
please do not let the 12 year old kids fool you this game is out standing ^^
fize4ever 2 years ago 35
@fize4ever i agree, this game practically formed my future of gaming.
procom94 1 year ago
@fize4ever trust me, before I got this game, my uncle had it as a demo with the DQ8. I fell in love with the demo so much that I kept replaying it. plus i fell in love with penelo, I just love her! I really liked the boss battle music as well, ist too epic. I remember getting this game and a gamestop clerk telling me not to buy this game, but i did anyway. look this game up on gamespot, it has a score of 9.0 and people hate it?
Minan3 1 year ago
@fize4ever damn those 12 year old kids
mutzmax1 1 year ago
@fize4ever 12 year olds fool you? i'm 13 and i think this is one of the greatest games i'v ever played
zelpyzelp 6 months ago
@zelpyzelp Exactly. ;D
fize4ever 6 months ago
@zelpyzelp hes talking a majority dipshit
hybridspartan44 5 months ago
@zelpyzelp
That's because you are 12...j/k.
How does it compare to 13? I'm playing that now & it's cool so far.
bribay 5 months ago
@bribay what?...the hell is j/k and i said 13 not 12
zelpyzelp 5 months ago
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bribay 5 months ago
@zelpyzelp
It means just kidding lol
bribay 5 months ago
it's easy trust me :)
Akrilles 2 years ago
That Wyrm at 3:30 was soooooo annoying. I didn't train enough before I fought it and it took me a while.
KooKookid520 2 years ago
ok this looks so confucing xD i haven't played the game so i dont know wath its like.. but for me i keep it now on the ff-x (x2) thing ^^
iRyuuX 2 years ago
As long as they keep all my favorite spells (and somehow make them work) I'm fine with the new battle system. Sure, it's not "classic" but its nice being able to see what you have to fight before the actual battle, and equip accordingly and whatnot..
spikidawikidawow 2 years ago
this game was so weak compared to the other fantasy's. the story was sound but the deviated from the original battle system too much. they should have either stuck with their traditional system of implored the kh battle system format.
allshallbelosttoyou 2 years ago
ditto but i find this combat system is pretty cool
mastershakes101 2 years ago 2
I disagree i thought the story was poor to others, particualry when comparing it to the epicness of ff10 and ff7.. The usual format for battling needed updating otherwise it'd be boring! The new one is much more challenging and 'realistic' using not just high levels but more skill, speed and thinking invloved.. proper strategies. The game draws you in and involves you more. Probably not my fave ff but definatley a good step forward
jamalgerrardo0989 2 years ago 2
everyone's free to post their own opinions i guess, but personally... i hated this damn game-_-
allshallbelosttoyou 2 years ago
I did aswell, i couldn't get used to the battle system but i left it for a while came back to it and now it makes me CREEAAAM. Really good fun challenging
jamalgerrardo0989 2 years ago
ew.......
allshallbelosttoyou 2 years ago
1010101010lololo
jamalgerrardo0989 2 years ago
I definitely agree with you 100% on the story part. It was weak compared to others. I also like the intense strategy involved in FFXII, different in a good way.
KooKookid520 2 years ago 2
Does Final Fantasy 12 take place before or after Final Fantasy Tactics?
PhockUTube 2 years ago
Long before
Kontostephanos 2 years ago
every ff game is diferent story place and "time" ff is not a "line" game every one is independent... i think its impossible to say the time on one compared to other... its like 2 diferent movies with diferent stories and worlds...
Houstof 2 years ago
They should've thought about that before reusing Ivalice.
PhockUTube 2 years ago
a lot of summon is olso used on many ff.... creatures too... like Chokobos... ^^ chocobos are like... orcs on online RPG lol.. its everywhere
Houstof 2 years ago
@PhockUTube i think after
procom94 1 year ago
you can hit and block multiple times if you equip your party with the right mask and armore and the lightest weapon or it will happen automaticly
gigas555 2 years ago
Once you mastered that gambit thingy the game would be easy
orangenod18 2 years ago
how can i do 2 or more hits & block ??
BeForU648 2 years ago
It's based on a percentage, in other words it's random. Some weapon have better block and combo rates than others
LolYawn 2 years ago
=/ i really liked this battle system lol. maybe people were just too used to the turn based system given the previous...11 games.
momomonsta 2 years ago
-Previous 10 games (If off-spins aren't taken in account.)
XI has a real-time battle system.
CosinusPW 2 years ago
the stupid blue/red line thing really annoying, i was hoping it would get faster, the farther you get in the game but, i guess not XP
Meiruneko 2 years ago
Under 'options' you can turn off the lines, but it makes battles a lot harder. You can also increase the battle speed under options, but if that isn't good enough for you equip your characters with cat-ear hoods (which usually more than double attack speed) If you haven't unlocked the ability to buy the hood, you haven't played that far into the game =)
doktai 2 years ago
yeah XP ive been really buzy lately, and thanks im going to play it first thing tomorrow, I see you got alot of crud there XD and new ppl XD To tell you the truth, im actually in some kind of underground place fighting rats and fish-things hahahah i got the game like a month and a half ago XP im grateful you took some time to help me and i know ill enjoy the game more then i would have if you didn't XD thx again :3
Meiruneko 2 years ago
Ah, the garamscythe waterway! Good times. But you're at like the beginning of the game XD
Don't forget to buy at least one offensive black magic spell for Vaan in Rabanastre, it makes everything a lot easier! Good luck!
doktai 2 years ago
Cat-ear hoods don't increase attack speed. In fact, Speed stat has very little to do with it.
LolYawn 2 years ago
are you kidding? the hood increases speed by 50 and vitality by 20. You need to be a pretty high clan rank to unlock it
doktai 2 years ago
They changed quit a bit of things in the set up.
razor191919 2 years ago
blah
GrannyPantySnatcher 2 years ago
Turn based better, but I liked the KH battle system...weird
smexybeast437 2 years ago
what I hate in this game is that all characters can be identical in terms of skills. But i did have a lot of fun in it.
rocketeer101 2 years ago
they using job system or something similar for characters in this game...created the different for each character....example fran is more better in magic and long range weapon such bow since she looks like elf type...
DarkShumihaza 2 years ago
if u want, develop the characters into different roles =<B
Arctain369 2 years ago
if its easy then it aint final fantasy...
hajiman214 2 years ago
this shit aint easy
dem0nk1d123 2 years ago 2
I hate this battle system,it really disapoited me.traditional turn based system was much better
Dexter158 2 years ago 2
i love the ff 12 battle system its sooo awesome. i would hate it if ff changed to a stupid action action and more action.
xxmrcoolmanxx 2 years ago
Battlesystem like FF7 is the best.
Ultracluster 2 years ago
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Yeah your right !! The gameplay needs to be like Kingdom Hearts ( more Action )
kevFFvii 2 years ago
I disagree (With KevFFvii). The Final Fantasy series generally has battle systems in which the player must think strategically, even if the amount of abilities limits that line of thinking. While the camera angle they've chosen normally is used for hack'n'slash type games, it still works well enough for the type of game they have here, and the use of random battles like with earlier games really detaches the player from the environment they're exploring.
Naikorasu 2 years ago 3
KH is retarded just pressing one button over and over again...boring
HuskyShinobiChouji 2 years ago
im sorry but i didn't like this game, cuz the battle system wuz ridiculous, after i choose 2 attack, i gotta wait 2 do it while the enemy gets 2 slap mee up.
darkssj2 2 years ago
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ArcaneBastard 2 years ago
i agree with Hackmoune..
this game is a kind of STEP DOWN to the FF series.. i played all FF series! even FF13.. and its a good thing they did came back to the classics..
shivaefrit 2 years ago
I think Square is playing around with the battle system, they feel like the one they've used for multiple games is getting old which is why we've seen a lot of change in the battle systems in the past games (10, 12 and 13.)
Rakomarou 2 years ago
yeah, i agree.. i think they tried something new on ff12.. but honestly.. for me.. i didnt like it.. maybe its because i got used to the classic gameplay which is per turn based. :)
but i apreciate their effort, the graphics in this game is still great :)
shivaefrit 2 years ago
why??????????? what happened to the turn based attacks??????
this is the 1st time they changed the gamplay and IM NOT USED TO THIS!!!!!!!!
shivaefrit 2 years ago
it's still turn based, only twice as fluid and more challenging.
ArcaneBastard 2 years ago
pinchi juego vale pura verga solo un pendejo de mierda gustaria de el.
violetdawning 2 years ago
FFXII was the best in my opinion, since I played it the most. I got bored of the other Final Fantasy games after a certain point.
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
Man what the fuck are you saying? this was a horrible game, by far the worst of the series, this doesnt even get close to Final Fantasy X, even the old FFVI is better than this piece of trash i enjoyed more the crap X-2 at least everybody knew since the begining that it was going to be a retard game but this? puffff.
FF XIII and vs XIII look a lot better than this piece of shit
Hackmoune 2 years ago
did you play it for 200+ hours, or do you just review games you have little experience with? I've played it upwards of 250 hours and love it. It might be because I got used to it, and the person playing on this video is incredibly slow. I don't see how this game is worse then FFX when in FFX you have to wait for cut scenes, wait to fight monsters, wait turns to fight monsters, and do everything at least half the speed that you have in FXII.
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
You know shit about FF, you stupid fuck, this is a shitty game and i dont need to explain myself to a rookie like you, who likes this better than FFX, cause is a little bit more quick? you must be retard... the long cutscenes, the wait for turns battle sistem, all that shit you dont like is an essential part of a FF game
Hackmoune 2 years ago
thus, if you dont like FFX cause of those stuffs then you simply MUST NOT PLAY A FF game.
Final Fantasy XII to me is not FF, its just a fucking rip of of Vagrant Story, but whereas Vagrant Story has a pretty damm good plot and was a good game, FFXII was pathetic and poor... sorry dude but FFXII is a piece of shit and you are a dumb for like it
Hackmoune 2 years ago
What are you saying? That you're a gamer who will only play FFX style games? It's not a rip off of the Vagrant story because they are indeed different, even you admitted that.
It's not a poor quality game, just a poor quality mindset.
Excuse me for being a rookie, I happen to have plenty of japanese games, and have a broad range of games that I play, not only FF games.
I played back and forth turn taking in the last 5 out of 13 FF games, why the hell would I want it in modern gaming?
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 3
hahahaha you´re a fucking retard dont you know that? when did i say im only a FFX style gamer? for fuck sake learn how to read mister, i just said that you cant play a FF game and then expect it to dont have all the own characteristics of the FF franchise, so if they wanna make an action game or a Vagrant Story style RPG then they should just call it Vagrant Story 2 or put it another fucking name, BUT NOT THE FINAL FANTASY!!! IT´S TO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT? fuck off rookie
Hackmoune 2 years ago
it's makes me retarded for disagreeing with you?
Why the hell are you watching this if you hate it so much?
For every hour i play the game and masturbate to it, you must right a worthless opinion on games
a noob I must be, since I started playing FFV and continued up to this point with FF right?
Final fantasy is evolving with each story line, it doesn't need to stay consistent to your opinions.
Just admit that you hate FFXII enough that you haven't spent enough time playing it to care.
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 2
Whatever.... none of you FF will ever understand how a real Final Fantasy fan feels when aberrations like this one comes out to the market having nothing to do with a FF game but well it doesnt matter as long as it comes from Square Enix and have a "FF name", it seems to be like following to your logic a Resident Evil can work without being a survival horror, or Silent Hill can work without the mist or having any connection to the nightmare town
Hackmoune 2 years ago
By the way, when you use wording and language it makes you sound more half witted, then simple putting your point across in a respectful manner...
and again, it's not the vagrant story just because it has action. just as FFXIII isn't Rogue Galaxy because it has action. I will agree with you on the FF fan thing. I don't fantasize over the FF games like you do, I in fact play a lot of games, and FFXII happened to be one of many styles, and titles I liked a lot.
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 3
Final Fantasy IS A RPG and must be forever and ever!!!!!!! not an action game not a fucking shooter (dirge of cerberus... buarrggg) not a Vagrant Story, not a Devil May Cry, not a fuckin Star Wars shit.... NOOOO!!! FINAL FANTASY MUST KEEP ITS OWN ESSENCE and that is the reason im in love with the XIII cause it seems like finally Square openned their eyes and went back to the classic style, if i want action i´ll go with God Wars ior DMC or whatever, anyway you are not right sir
Hackmoune 2 years ago
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Slidewalker001 2 years ago
If I don't like the FFX game I shouldn't play it? that's exactly what I intend not to do. I can play any game I buy, or rent, and I can have a valued opinion of anything I've played plenty of hours on. Whether you like the idea or not is your choice.
You haven't really said "WHY" you don't like it, just that you don't like it. What serious flaw is there to FFXII that other games don't have?
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 2
blah blah blah STFU already, i didnt like crap fantasy xii because that game is an insult to any "FINAL FANTASY FAN" simple as that, and i dont care how many fuckin hours do you spend masturbating in front of your fuckin TV playing this crap, it is your problem but please dont say this is better than the other FF games made before cause it´s not
Hackmoune 2 years ago
I would like to say that Final Fantasy 12's overall gameplay structure is almost completely different from Vagrant Story. It's actually quite a bit more comparable to Final Fantasy games that used the RTB system from Final Fantasy 4, except in reverse. In Final Fantasy 4 and onward, the bar at the bottom would fill up, and then you would be able to select an attack. Here, it is set that you select an attack, and then you wait for the bar to fill up. :0
Naikorasu 2 years ago 2
This is kinda like cabal..i said KINDA!
vvovvitsme 2 years ago
do NOT buy this game, I bought it and.. after 30 or so hours playtime I realised I was having the most boring time of my life.
goodflo911 2 years ago 3
lol ff12 characters looks exacly like final fantasy online chars
orionpk 2 years ago
And it is. It's like the mmo but only that this is offline.
Malphas87 2 years ago
i miss the old system. i think its 2 much hectic now and i cant make any strategies 2 defeat the enemy....hope 13 is better
DAWG88king 2 years ago 2
what do the shiny bleu and pink/red lines doooo??? ^^
WinterRenes 2 years ago
blue lines show you who your about to attack... red lines for who enemy are attacking...
mariquwa 2 years ago
oh thank you ^^ now I understand it XD
WinterRenes 2 years ago
i think this battle system is awsome. it just different thats y people hate it. th e only thing i dont like thou is that so many of the big monsters hav that stupid ring around their neck and feet; i dont hate the ring it just too many of them have it.
theriz15 2 years ago 2
I would have found the game very agreeable but certain enemies were made difficult in some very unacceptable ways.
Fire element bosses (and even regular monsters) being immune to blizzard is very unsettling!!!
ramen38 2 years ago
people hate it because it's boring, you can only effectivly have control of one character at a time, and it's a lot harder to apply strategy to, not because it's different. It also seems a lot like an online games battle system.
Wiggum1223 2 years ago 3
The worst type of battle for a ff game. Kingdom heart and crystal chronicles battles are better, This ls like world of war craft
darkveroth 2 years ago
i dont like this type of battling. you shouldnt be able to move around freely. i like the ffx type of battle more idk though. which one is better?
tarheels632 2 years ago
FFX was the best in my opinion cause anyone can understand the system.
FFXll was the worst since while your waiting to hit the enemy they already hit you muiltple time before you hit them but i guess others out there understand the system but it's too complex for me.
frozenstaz 2 years ago
I really don't think the battle system was to complex at all... if anything i would have thought more ff fans would have liked to step out side the same system every single game (Turn based) .. this style is turn based in a way... but no random in counters... which was the biggest and best change for me... yeah it plays like an MMO but it does not take away from the greatness it is... it matures what is already expected of rpgs in the first place... at least thats what i thing...
mariquwa 2 years ago