Christian chicks take off their panties faster than you can say Beelzebub. They shout out ohhh god over and over and louder and louder. Christians are so easy to fool. Just tell them you have been " born again" or some such shyt and your in like flint. Sadly, stupid people get on your nerves quickly and need to be curbed after a month or two, no matter how good they do nasty things. Try telling them jezuz talked to you and he said you should STFU. Might get another week out of the deal.
The wisdom of Pat Robertson. Sebastien Michaelis states that Belial seduces by means of arrogance and his adversary is St. Francis of Paola; in this sense his name is translated as "Lord of Arrogance" or "Lord of Pride" (Baal ial). The one of the most pronounced characteristics of atheism and atheists is an unhuman arrogance and pride, or hubris.
God tells Christians not to be unequal to yoke with unbelievers and being friends with atheists is a prime way to disobey that command. By all means get away from atheists, -assuming of course, you told them straight they are wrong and shouldn't be accepted. When you trail the path of atheism, you travel a suicidal path, because the God atheists deny will punish them forever. No matter how nice atheists seem, keep in mind, if you saw satan, you would see no person nicer.
i've met a satanist yes a satanist go out with a christian they turn out to be good to each other and all that i'm an atheist myself and my gf is christian and we love for what we are even she agrees her a strong christians agrees religion and faith doesn't matter when it comes to love it matters that you have someone to love for your rest of your life.
at least atheism doesn't make you have to reject people you care about just because they don't share your beliefs (and neither do non-nutcase forms of christianity)
Its not a sin to engage in a relationship or even marriage with an Athiest, but nonetheless it is unadvisable. As Pat said, both spouses would invaraibly be detached from their thinking, and likewise attitudes about morality, spirituality etc. Marriage is the closest thing in my mind which emulates an individuals relationship with God, therefore both spouses ought to be united in God's love and grace, not just one of them.
An atheists group demanded an apology and retraction from Pat because they didn't "approve" of it. What they don't get is that society doesn't need their approval nor permission.
@skeptictom818 RE:"Isn't this the same guy who blamed the gays for hurricane Katrina???"
Yep same guy. Same guy that said the 2010 Haiti earthquake happened because the Haitians had made a deal with Satan. After the Dover ID trail he told the people of Dover that if something bad happened it was their own fault because they had "turned their back on God". It would take a book to relate all the horrible things this man has said.
Pat was counseling a Christian woman concerning what is right for us according to the standards of the Word of God. The Bible says to us, "do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers", and so as well, "to know to do what is right and to not do it is sin". Therefore, Pats council to the lady is between them and God and none of the beezwax of the God hating barbarian atheist community.
@mrtadreamer “Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof,” (Gen. 19:8). "...Our father is old... Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father." (Gen. 19:31). Disgusting. This makes you and your gods "barbarians".
Pat Robertson is not worthy to give anybody advice, period. You marry whom you wish. Ask yourself "If we have been saved, why doesn't Jesus immediately take us to heaven with Him?" Because our work is here in the Earth until He comes. What is that work? preach the gospel.
"Listen to me I am old man I have predicted end of the world many times I was always wrong and I that thing with haiti was satans doing, listing to me I know what I am saying" ..."thats so true thats so true"
God says a Christian cannot marry a non- Christian(Corinthians) I cant believe how many so called 'christians dont know anything about this! Even when shown this verse, people ignore it....the conclusion is that We have many, many false converts in America...
@dnlcast2 Oh, so you follow the whole Bible, eh? You're a "true" Christian? You would kill someone if you thought them a witch (Exodus 22:18)? You stone blasphemers and fortune tellers to death (Leviticus 24:16 and 20:27)? Or kill an entire town if even one person worships a god other than your own (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)?
Or maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't be using a bronze-age book written by half-literate superstitious nomads to dictate our morality.
I would say that this is surprisingly good advice from Pat for once. I can't see a strong marriage truly functioning with someone who is religious vs someone who is an atheist. Too strong opinions on opposite ends of the spectrum on a very hot button issue which would unquestionably have a very negative impact on the marriage.
"He's going to be serving the Devil ... it's that simple ..." ... LOL. Okay, Pat ... back to the Nursing Home for you.
What's most disturbing to me is the sheer cavalier manner in which he distributes this "advice" without any regard for the fact that the woman who asked the question was looking for compassion and understanding, and a way to meet her fiance in the middle. It's clear from the question that she loves the guy, so to arbitrarily suggest leaving with no other options is just cruel and heartless on Mr. Robertson's part. Shame on him.
The Bible verse he is referencing is 2 Corinthians 6:15, "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?" Apparently he is following this verse to the letter and using it as a guideline to predict the outcome of a marriage between two complete strangers, without knowing anything about the nature of their relationship. He's not exactly thinking in shades of gray here.
"You'll be serving God while he serves the Devil!" (even though he doesn't think there is one) "There is no middle ground because it is impossible for a Christian and a hell-bound atheist to get along, ever" (even if they are understanding and have mutual respect for each other)
i am an athiest and my girlfriend isnt and we have been together for 13 years and we do have some disagreements. but we love each other and thats what the main focus must be. she dont like pat condell but for some reason she dont dispute most of what he says. pat condell is one of the smartest people i have ever heard speak and has a great sence of humor. he would never give advice as retarted as this. pat condell is awesome and pat robertson is an insult to humanity just like islam.
I hope you both enjoy many a pride rally together, the perfect example of how belief in god is not as important as how much you hate dem sand niggers.
@FuturePants get off your mommy's computer and get back to your video game little boy. quit bothering people. quit pissin the bed too. good thing mom put that plastic cover on it is all i can say. bedwetter.
@FuturePants you thro the n word around like rice at a wedding but im a racist ? people who dont like pat robertson, islam or any other form of religious facism are not racists you idiot ! you are !! learn the definition of a racist asswipe !!! your picture is next to the word !!! now piss off allready !!! BASTARD !!!!
@FREEALIST I forget sarcasm is lost on people without 2 brain cells to rub together.
Hating muslims because they are muslim and wishing to exile them for their religion is racism, and it hurts the already stained reputation of atheists.
throw a tantrum all you want, you are the racist, I think pat condell is a racist prick, you adore the man.
@FuturePants if i have 2 brain cells its still 2 more than you have. pat condell warned of condescending athiest like you. watch his video called (why debate dogma) its got your name all over it. i dont hate anyone but you and people who advocate sharia. like i said, islam and any other religions are not a race. so its impossible to be a racist just because i dont like there poison idea's. i never said a damn thing about exile so stop trying to put words in my mouth. stick something in yours !
@FuturePants really ? you again ? i thought maybe you finally got off my dick allready. i saw in one of your vids that you said you were bisexual. i hope you go all the way gay so you never reproduce. i dont hate gays but i allways wondered how one man could find love in another mans hairy ass. why dont you answer that for everyone.
@FREEALIST Oh, and when you say you don't hate gays... It is usually a good idea not to immediately post gay-bashing hate speech.
But if it is any consolation, most hatefull racist assholes like you end up having gay kids or inter-racially married children just because you are so much of an asshole that they tend to do it just because you prove how ignorant and backwards racism is.
I am glad you are on youtube because the best way to fix racism is for people to see your pompous ass online.
@FuturePants i know your lonely and i can see why your looking for a father figure. like i said i aint the one you need. cause i would only treat you like shit and make you feel even more unwanted and useless. you and mr.robertson on the other hand would be great together. you could polish his belt buckle while he sets his beer on your flat head. after all that what its there for right ? intellect ? your quackin me up silly duck !!!
Do you know any way to solve your problems besides calling names like a little child and acting superior?
Your life must be so awesome.
I am surprised you can do nothing but act like a douche and come off so arrogant, you are not cool, you are not funny. You are not clever, you are just a douchebag.
@FuturePants i dont have any problems except trying to find you a good home. is there no person out there that will adopt this stray ! i fed him once and you know the rest. my life is pretty awesome though. im positive its better than yours. you see im not confused like you. i know that my women is the one for me. where as you are still torn on whether you want a pole or a hole. you will probably just be greedy and eat both. no wonder its so hard to find you a good home.
I sure hope ol' Robertson isn't right about God and its nature, or I'm going to end up fighting for the Devil. Fortunately, I'm pretty sure Robertson's totally full of shit.
you know what,this guy needs to go hang out with oral roberts in hell...he stole the 700 club from the bakkers back in the day...he is a washed up old pimp turning out his last holes..
@PhilSchlenkerHockey Again says you! But the fact that many such people do marry atheists all the time simply shows you to be wrong. Pat assumed nothing. He listened to nothing in the letter except the word atheist. He simply ignored the fact the person wanted a "middle ground" and told them there could be no such thing. Ever. And he is not just giving that advice to this person but all viewers of the show.
It is bad advice no matter how you twist or change it. Plain and simple.
Says you but for some people it is not. For still others being religious doesnt mean religion takes precedence over love and people. In fact for some their religion leads them to put more importance into people and love.
The differences between us are what make us strong in this life, not some religious need to make us all identical clones. There are uncountable couples living very happily in a way that proves that the advice in this video is simply wrong.
serving the devil? well lets see God lets people in Africa starve to death.. O ya and he lets Earthquakes hit places like "Christ Church" yep god is real he just loves killing people. O wait it's part of his plan right?
so his plan is to create a a baby, then have it die at the age of 2, because of a Disease.... right..... talk about a waste of time.
really if you think there is a God get your head check I was a Baptist for 19 years and I'm not anymore.
And Christians can still both be republican and democrat. It is the differences between us that make us strong and our relationships worth having. According to Pat however it is the differences that should keep us apart, which is why his advice is so bad.
It is you that calls it the "most important bond". Maybe it is to you, but it is not to all people who have religion. Some things are more important to them, such as each other. Youre judging others by your own poor preferences.
"Extremely difficult"? There are many people who do it. All relationships are difficult. They are all hard work. They all take strong input and compromise to function. That is just how relationships are. Conflicting views on some things are no reason not to be with someone. Atheists marry christians all the time. Republicans marry Democrats all the time. Vegetarians marry heavy meat eaters all the time.
No one ever said relationships need to be easy. They are work. The work makes them worth it.
I am an atheist and my wife is a christian. We have been together for 14 years. We have a great relationship full of trust and love. We have a son. He goes to a christian day care. I dont mind. He will go to a public school and learn what he needs to about science. He will make his own mind up on what he wants to believe. My wife goes to church with her freind. We have discused religion with never an argument. Belief or non belief is the least controversial topic in our household.
Or something else, but she doesn't think what you think she thinks, that would be paradoxical.
Noone loves someone and simultaneously thinks they are going to, and deserve to be tortured alive for eternity over something that is "the least controversial topic in your household".
@FuturePants The level at which someone believes in religion differs from person to person. My wife truly believes there is a creator Does she believe every detail about christianity... no she doesnt. Does that make her a hypocrite? No more than a catholic would seem to be a hypocrite to a southern baptist.
She has hope that god will be merciful to people like me. Regardless of what preachers say or the bible says. She is very smart but wont let go of her beliefs. I respect that in her.
@Kimjongil3000 I know, its just lunacy to think that 2 people who love each other can have a conversation where one belief is polar opposite the other, and do it in a civilized manner, and not argue about it. We have disagreements. We just understand each other.
On my end I feel as long her beliefs bring her happiness and doesn't do any harm to others, why would I care what she believed. And on her end ,she has hope that god will be merciful to people like me.
@irishmauddib She's not asking how to fix anything. If she were, she would go to a professional. Here, she went to Pat Robertson. Face facts. She didn't even go to the minister of her OWN CHURCH. She got precisely what she was looking for? He gave fantastic advice.
And yes, this IS inductive reasoning. ie, there's certain moving parts you can insert that make the equation work. Robertson actually did the same thing. He knows what he's doing just as I know what he's doing. You're ignoring it.
@upabittoolate I see no good advice in this video at all. Sorry. If you are aware of any then feel free to adumbrate it. It appears wholly imagined to me.
Because you DISAGREE with the advice doesn't make it poor. Understand that nuance or I can't adumbrate (great word BTW) it. Remove yourself from it. In fact, put yourself in Roni's place. She wanted to hear the opinion of a like-minded person. She didn't want to hear an informed opinion that would be rich with data & well-tested advice on how to deal. She had 1 foot out the door & she LITERALLY wanted Pat's blessing. Being a good minister, he blessed her with the advice he rendered.
@upabittoolate Did I at any point SAY that I think it is poor solely because I disagree with it? No, I think it is poor, because it is poor. Maybe you would do better to reply to the things I have been saying, rather than imagining things I have not said and replying to them instead.
As I said, if you think there is good advice in what he said then feel free to adumbrate what you think it is.
@irishmauddib You didn't have to say that was your reason because everything else you've said points to that. "I think it's poor because it's poor" isn't acceptable logic.
I've already stated it but I'll repeat it. Given the context, the person whom he's advising & what he said, it's good advice. Since you aren't American, you don't understand the level of nuttiness that comes from Christians who'd seek advice from a crackpot like Robertson. Perhaps that's what you're missing.
No everything I said points to what Ive said. Which is why I ask you reply to it, not what you invented.... inserted into my mouth.... and replied to instead. Conversation is impossible if you read X and reply to Y is it not.
The advice is not good, as all the people with differing religions, level of religions, or no religions living happily together testify to. Not just in the US but all over the world. That religion should be used as a wedge between lovers is never going to be good advice.
@irishmauddib Everything you said points to that. You're talking about "making it work" & "getting along". That's YOUR opinion. But Roni didn't write you an email. You disagree with Robertson's conclusions. I get that. But in this case, he's actually correct & he's giving good advice. Yes, people with different religions DO manage. But that's NOT the case HERE. She's specifically wrote to PAT. That tells you something already. Listen to how she framed it: she's gung ho. Her fiance ain't. Get it?
Again reply only to what I say please not what you IMAGINE it "points" to.
The advice isnt good. Especially given he is not just giving it to the person who wrote, but applying it generally to all people living with people of differing or no faith. Theres people watching who are otherwise perfectly happy but might now be moved to think they shouldnt be.
What you are missing is that the advice is general, not specific to the writer. Get it?
@irishmauddib What you don't understand is that in THIS case, there's already a wedge between her fiance & her. If there weren't, she wouldn't be writing Pat Robertson in the FIRST place. She's already a religious nutjob. Her partner may be some kind of nutjob but he's astute enough to not buy into brand-name, religious nonsense. She & her fiance are not on the same page. Why don't you get that?
You do not know the people who wrote in so calling them named like "nut job" is just fantasy. You do not have to be a nut job to turn to the wrong person for advice in a time of confusion or need. The fact is that his advice is not specific to the person who wrote in. Listen to it again. He is giving the advice generally to all people watching the show. The advice is not good at all. Good advice would be to tell the writer that all people in relationships have differences and similarities.
Apply the advice in general context. I like coffee she likes tea. Itll never work. I am democrat she is republican. It will never work. I have religion she does not. It will never work. Humans would have NO relationships at all if they split because of every difference, real or imagined, between them. It is the differences between us that relationships revel in and thrive on. That is why his advice is bad. He is suggesting ending a relationship purely because of a difference of opinion. Get it?
@irishmauddib My friend, you can't use a "general" context because we're dealing with specific players in a specific context. Get it? We're not talking about coffee versus tea. We're talking about someone's fundamental beliefs about the basis of their mortal existence. In truth, couples split up all the time & you better believe it's over pettier reasons than philosophical differences. This isn't a simple difference of opinion.
She's a born-again Christian. Her advised her accordingly.
That is why I used the coffee example and the republican example. It doesnt matter the level of the belief, there is always common ground for peace, discourse, and in celebrating the differences between us. Bad advice from kooks and warmongers like this saying there is no peace to be had is just a) bad advice and b) patently false. And people get on in love all the time with massive differences between them. So any advice saying such peace is not possible is just false.
@irishmauddib It's not about coffee though. What you don't get is that she's not looking for middle ground. She's looking for Jesus. She didn't ask for advice on how to cope from a guy that copes. She asked a far-right, self-righteous, Southern minister. I know you're not American. But what the fuck did she think he was gonna say? She knew full well what he'd say.
Maybe you don't give people enough credit. But I'm not easily fooled. She knew what she wanted to hear & whom she asked it from.
"What you don't get is that she's not looking for middle ground"
Again I have no time for your lies. She said "What I think we need is a good middle ground". You said she is not looking for middle ground. I have no time for lies or the liars who tell them.
It seems what you do, to her and to me, is when someone says something that is inconvienient to your world view, you just turn on the lying machine and pretend they never said it, or they said something else.
@irishmauddib It's not a lie. Everyone in America knows that you're not gonna get a thoughtful answer from Pat-fucking-Robertson. Roni knew that too. It's like asking a doctor of allopathic treatments about ayurvedic protocols. You KNOW what the doctor is going to say.
This has nothing to do with my worldview. This has something to do with my understand of the minds of the born-again Christians & the Pat Robertsons of the world. They aren't on "middle" ground. Don't you understand that?
@irishmauddib My friend, I'm not sure why you're missing this. I'll repeat it for you. If she were seeking moderate advice, she'd look for it elsewhere. It's really just that simple. Quite often people say things but reveal their true meanings in other ways. In this case it was easy to spot. In whatever walk of life you are in the US, you know who Pat Robertson. Furthermore, if you've watched him enough, you know what he's gonna say. This isn't rocket science mate.
Another reason it is bad advice is that discourse is the most important thing we have. Finding middle ground for discourse is immensely important. Here however he is saying that is not possible. Atheists are serving the devil. There is no middle ground. There is no peace.
This kook is essentially telling people not to even try and talk to atheists. They are satanic, evil, there can be no peace with them. Why dont you get that?
@irishmauddib Dude, she's not looking for middle ground. She didn't ask advice from someone that's impartial or rational. She didn't ask a professional counselor. She didn't even ask her own minister. She didn't seek out a parent, a friend, a sibling, a mentor or even her own fiance. She went to the craziest motherfucker she could find. What does that tell you? It tells me that their relationship wasn't that strong to begin with. Why don't you get that?
@upabittoolate "she's not looking for middle ground" Now you are just making things up and lying. Watch the video again. Her exact words were "What I think we need is a good middle ground".
So you, like you did with me, have taken what she ACTUALLY SAID... and lied and changed it into something she NEVER SAID and replied to that instead.
I am sorry but I have no time for such lies or the liars who tell them. Nor am I your "friend" by the way nor do I wish to be.
"She went to the craziest motherfucker she could find. What does that tell you?"
It does not tell me anything because there are a multitude of possible reasons for it that we can not presume to know because neither of us know the person concerned. We do not even know if the person exists. We do not know if the person has ever watched the show before or even knows who Pat is. It could have been a recommendation from someone else. We know nothing about her, despite you insisting on pretending to.
My friend, you're not familiar with Pat Robertson. But here on the west side of The Pond, we know what televangelists are up to. The most naive man knows what you'll get if you ask Pat Robertson something. Q: Hey Pat, what topping would you like on your pizza? A: Jesus. Q: Hey Pat, what's your favorite car? A: Amen. Q: Pat, what's 2+2? A: The Lord.
She knew what question she was asking & to whom she directed it. That's what he DOES. He's shite & anyone who'd defer to him is shite.
@upabittoolate I am not your friend and you know nothing about me so stop lying about me. I know Robertson quite well thank you.
As I said I have no time for your lies. SHE said in her own words she wants a middle ground. YOU keep saying she doesnt want a middle ground. If you want to keep lying then this conversation will go no further than this sticking point.
@irishmauddib My friend, I know that you're not in the US. Therefore you don't have as much exposure Pat Robertson as I do. I'm sure you've come across a born-again Christian or 2. But it's evident that you haven't set your feet on any land in the Bible Belt. If you did, you'd've known what I was getting at all along. If she were looking for middle ground, she wouldn't ask Pat Robertson. It's really quite simple. You don't ask diet advice from the guy who's peddling cheeseburgers & fries.
Im not your friend and again you make up facts you dont know. Youve NO IDEA what country Im in so again stop lying
She said 1 thing you said she means the opposite. This is lies. You dont know her. You only know your lies. Reply to what she said and Im here for you. Keep lying and pretending she said the opposite of what she said and this conversation can not proceed past this point
Stop making things up about me you do not know too, just more lies from you. Lie after lie after lie with you.
Good to see you have decided to give up the lying and not reply. Though maybe you have decided to run away for another 2 years before you come back and try again, I dunno. Either way the point is clear, the advice in the video is not good at all, and pretending that she is saying the EXACT opposite of what she is saying... which you just did... does not change that fact one iota.
Their is no middle ground in marriage? My goodness this man just told a person to break up with the person she loves because of religion. This man is the reason atheism is the fastest growing religion in the US. Keep up the intolerance and tell me where that gets you.
@landesdesign Atheism is not a religion. It's the exact opposite of that: a complete lack of a belief in a god or religion. It's the default position, and how we're born. I'm glad more and more people are opening their eyes to reality, but to call atheism a religion is a huge injustice.
@landesdesign Just wanted to second what iconamongidols said. I'm sure you meant no harm, but please don't call atheism a religion. It is the lack of belief in gods, nothing more and nothing less. The only reason many of us feel compelled to "organize" in a fashion similar to religion is because we are a minority (in America anyway). If we don't stand by each other, for the most part, no one else will.
@megjett and iconamongidols. I understand atheism is not a religion. Even the most liberal sites such as HuffPost does not have a section for us. It is the religion link that our expressions are heard. I am glad you two put me in my place though. Dawkins say we atheists are like herding cats. So my worlds were an insult to you and embarrassing to me. Being from Kansas should not be an excuse but a LOT of people here think atheists are walking evil.
@landesdesign True, we discuss (and some of us battle) religion and/or the religious a lot, but that doesn't make atheism itself a religion. (I know you understand this; I'm just reiterating for others.) My main concern was that we have too many theists spreading the misconception that atheism is a religion for us to do it to ourselves. Rest assured I didn't take any personal offense; it was only out of concern for the "movement," if you will, that I spoke up. Do you live in Kansas?
@megjett Yes I live in Kansas. I work for Kansas House Democrats during elections and am involved with atheist movements here. Well online mostly. The movement I believe is moving forward because of civil discussions like we are having. I think even in Kansas their are a lot more rational people who can be productive in conversations like this. Without damnation and hell fire coming into play.
@landesdesign It's always good to know that some progress is being made. I've yet to align myself with any formal organization or movement, but I'm glad to hear that others like you are working towards making a difference. I, too, have succeeded in having civil, sometimes productive conversations with other theists, but for every polite one it seems like there is one (or even two) who seem content to judge rather than to understand. Keep doing what you're doing!
This is disgusting. I can't believe Pat is even allowed to be on TV. All that is behind that old face is a scared child who believes what Mom and Dad taught him. What a judgmental prick. Anytime I have a bad day, I'm going to watch this video and really appreciate I am not neurologically built like Pat R.
Ah! Let them have a go at it, Pat... The divorce rate for christian marriages, married under god, with gods blessings and let no man put asunder, is the same as that of nonbelievers. I know that God not helping christian marriages, is because god works in mysterious ways, therefore, maybe it was god's plan for them to be together and they got the same odds of it working as anybody... Go ahead Pat, be a good christian and rob them of their HAPPINESS!
Seems like a surefire plan for Christians to DISTANCE themselves from non-believers. Christians of a certain persuasion obviously don't actually care about non-believers. Sickening.
the real answer is to just share mutual respect for the beliefs of the other and not try to force anything on eachother. I know an athiest-fundamentalist christian couple who have been married for years, this guy is a nutter.
I like how christians say that aslong as you have the lord and jesus then you will go to heaven, but an athiest will go to hell. So your tellin me that a guy that rapes and murders people but believes in jesus will go to heaven, but I wont cause im not a believer.
I kinda have to admit I'm on the same side as pat on this one but definitely not for the same reason. I can't see myself spending my life with somebody who doesn't have a firm grasp of reality.
@nitrorev386 While I agree for the most part I have dated several women that believe in god, and possibly religion, but don't practice in any way. I think in these cases it doesn't really matter much to me if it isn't a focus of their life. Of course they need to have enough intelligence to question this, and there is no way I would marry someone who is a church goer. Someone that leans Agnostic, but was brainwashed into the cult of their parent's religion I can let slide a bit more.
Pat's god tells us to murder young women who have premarital sex, says we can sell our daughters into slavery, and tells us that a slave is property. Pat worships a god who says "love me without evidence that I exist or I will destroy you". Pat thinks that the bloating corpses of children in Haiti are the result of his god's justice. People create gods in their own image, and Pat Robertson created a god of intolerance and hate.
Pat is right.. A christian and an atheist cant get married.. neither can a muslim and a christian if they fully comitted to their religion. Why are y'all insulting him, you're probably not christians so u wouldn't understand. Anyways forgive them Lord they know not what they doing.. God bless you all
Hey hey hey! Who says Pat can't be criticized! Probably a majority of Christians would criticize him VERY strongly for how he does things. Don't ask forgiveness for people who are merely criticizing this man! He gets things wrong! Just because someone is a Christian, that does NOT mean everything they say and do is right! Christians err too!
@arc27 you're right about that he's not always right, and has a harsh way of preaching the gospel, which can be misunderstood by especially non-believers.. But let God judge him , we're the one's to do so..
I think we need to judge him because he's arguably a bad influence. If God judges him (if God exists and judges people), he will apparently judge Pat after he is dead, which is too late. Pat will have already used 700 club donations to finance his diamond mine in Africa, and he will have said offensive things that give non-Christians a bad taste about religious people. I'd rather that Christians and non-Christians could get along with less biased hatred for one another.
@Wira91Obi I have studied the Bible at length. That is why I know that the real punishment for a girl who was found to be pregnant prior to her marriage would be death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21
@FosterZygote .. I know all those stuff we written in Deu are very strick, but thats the old testament, the new testament is about forgiving, because God felt mercy for his people so he sent Jesus so that we can pray through Jesus and get forgiveness from God.. My mum got pregnant outside marriage, but her family didn't kill her, they were happy to see me. Babies are blessings no matter what. Jesus said let the small children come to me, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
@Wira91Obi So YHWH corrected his mistake? Tell me, what about all the cruelty, murder, genocide, misogyny, slavery, fear and horror visited on YHWH's children prior to this "benevolent" act of his? It seems to me that YHWH should be asking for OUR forgiveness for demanding that his followers slaughter women and children, permit slavery, repress women and all the other evil things done on his orders.
@FosterZygote God is love always! Satan is ruling the world thats why, and its therefore best that you give your life to jesus get saved before its too late.. Jesus is coming back to get those who believe in him!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
If Jesus is love, why is he only coming back to get those who believe in him? What sort of a megalomaniac would destroy those who do not believe in him? If you'd said that Jesus was going to grant eternal happiness to everyone, I might believe you. But the creature you describe is despicably cruel and arrogant.
@Wira91Obi God is always love??? That love just unleashed the worst outbreak of tornadoes on the area of the country that is most dedicated to this "God is love"...You are living a delusion! The human mind created every god that has ever existed in the mind of the believer & that includes the Christian god. I read your comment & it reminds me of Clash of the Titans as they appeal to Zeus to fight the dark forces. I do have feelings of deep sorrow for people like yourself! SAD!
@Viracocha711 Jesus is coming back soon to get his people. All these tornados are not from God, but signs of the end of the world Luke 21.. The world has gone crazy like i said before satan is in controll look at all the things happening. God is love...! For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
@Viracocha711 Jesus is coming back soon to get his people. All these tornados are not from God, but signs of the end of the world Luke 21.. The world has gone crazy like i said before satan is in controll look at all the things happening. God is love...! For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
@Wira91Obi I could only WISH there was actually a god, the Christian god, and he would come scoop all you folks up so the rest of us could get on with building a society based on HUMANITY & not some imaginary Bronze Age Myth!
@Viracocha711 ok, you are allowed to have ur own opinion.. I respect that! But let those who want to believe do so, and mind your own business. After all Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things you cant see. I dont force anyone to believe in Christ.. Its up to y'all.
@Viracocha711 Jesus is coming back soon to get his people. All these tornados are not from God, but signs of the end of the world Luke 21.. The world has gone crazy like i said before satan is in controll look at all the things happening. God is love...! For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
Imagine he said "dump him because he is a jew" or "dump him because he is a muslim" or "dump him because he is black" yet some how because he is an atheist it isnt racist or prejudice.
but i guess attacking an atheist is ok because they are backed by so much evidence. its like some one saying scarlett johansson is ugly. its not offensive really because its so obviously un true.
What an arrogant bastard. Who is Robertson to decide who is "serving the devil" or "serving God" First of all, neither are proven to exist. Secondly, Where does Robertson get off going around judging others.... deciding who is the good-guy and who is the bad guy !?!? It is exactly why, when religion is scrutinized, it fails. It is unnecessarily judgmental, self-righteous and often comes-off sounding obnoxious. Ever wonder what it would be like if religion didn't exist?
What a decrepit piece of shit. Breaking up a couple over 4000 year old outdated principles. Jesus Fucking Christ some people dont deserve to be human.
Christian chicks take off their panties faster than you can say Beelzebub. They shout out ohhh god over and over and louder and louder. Christians are so easy to fool. Just tell them you have been " born again" or some such shyt and your in like flint. Sadly, stupid people get on your nerves quickly and need to be curbed after a month or two, no matter how good they do nasty things. Try telling them jezuz talked to you and he said you should STFU. Might get another week out of the deal.
qixxxz 3 weeks ago
@qixxxz
Do you mean 'in like Flynn'? XD
bluemoonrising26 3 weeks ago
The wisdom of Pat Robertson. Sebastien Michaelis states that Belial seduces by means of arrogance and his adversary is St. Francis of Paola; in this sense his name is translated as "Lord of Arrogance" or "Lord of Pride" (Baal ial). The one of the most pronounced characteristics of atheism and atheists is an unhuman arrogance and pride, or hubris.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
God tells Christians not to be unequal to yoke with unbelievers and being friends with atheists is a prime way to disobey that command. By all means get away from atheists, -assuming of course, you told them straight they are wrong and shouldn't be accepted. When you trail the path of atheism, you travel a suicidal path, because the God atheists deny will punish them forever. No matter how nice atheists seem, keep in mind, if you saw satan, you would see no person nicer.
mrtadreamer 3 weeks ago
i've met a satanist yes a satanist go out with a christian they turn out to be good to each other and all that i'm an atheist myself and my gf is christian and we love for what we are even she agrees her a strong christians agrees religion and faith doesn't matter when it comes to love it matters that you have someone to love for your rest of your life.
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Pat is an idiot
Jonathanedward2010 1 month ago
at least atheism doesn't make you have to reject people you care about just because they don't share your beliefs (and neither do non-nutcase forms of christianity)
ouch2112 1 month ago
Its not a sin to engage in a relationship or even marriage with an Athiest, but nonetheless it is unadvisable. As Pat said, both spouses would invaraibly be detached from their thinking, and likewise attitudes about morality, spirituality etc. Marriage is the closest thing in my mind which emulates an individuals relationship with God, therefore both spouses ought to be united in God's love and grace, not just one of them.
MrEnlighteneddespot 1 month ago
Just die dude
ScienceFictionHairdo 1 month ago
An atheists group demanded an apology and retraction from Pat because they didn't "approve" of it. What they don't get is that society doesn't need their approval nor permission.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
doesn't this dumb ass understand that atheists don't believe in the devil either?
setmedic 2 months ago
Isn't this the same guy who blamed the gays for hurricane Katrina??? If so then you got to be crazy for taking advice from this lunatic!!
skeptictom818 2 months ago
@skeptictom818 Hahaha exactly.
GazMysticism 2 months ago
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@skeptictom818 RE:"Isn't this the same guy who blamed the gays for hurricane Katrina???"
Yep same guy. Same guy that said the 2010 Haiti earthquake happened because the Haitians had made a deal with Satan. After the Dover ID trail he told the people of Dover that if something bad happened it was their own fault because they had "turned their back on God". It would take a book to relate all the horrible things this man has said.
Ansonidak 2 months ago
I'm a Catholic, my sister's an atheist, and I don't think she serves the devil lol. That's an oversimplified explanation if I ever saw one
yomama629 3 months ago
Religion: encouraging division and segregation since the dark ages.
Faustaao 3 months ago
He's such douche. Same guy who says you should be able to divorce your spouse because they're sick from alzheimers. "Til death do you part" my butt.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
Pat was counseling a Christian woman concerning what is right for us according to the standards of the Word of God. The Bible says to us, "do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers", and so as well, "to know to do what is right and to not do it is sin". Therefore, Pats council to the lady is between them and God and none of the beezwax of the God hating barbarian atheist community.
mrtadreamer 3 months ago
@mrtadreamer you and people like him preach to people to be prejudice in the name of your god, yet you call us atheists immoral.
Killaidenn 3 months ago
@Killaidenn If you don't agree with the Bible, I suggest you contact the author and see if He won't change His mind.
Thank you for your comment.
mrtadreamer 3 months ago
@mrtadreamer haha as soon as you contact the author of the quran ;)
Killaidenn 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer barbarian? "a blessing on anyone who seizes your babies and shatters them against a rock!" (Psalms 137:9).
Killaidenn 2 months ago
@mrtadreamer “Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof,” (Gen. 19:8). "...Our father is old... Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father." (Gen. 19:31). Disgusting. This makes you and your gods "barbarians".
Killaidenn 2 months ago
Pat Robertson is not worthy to give anybody advice, period. You marry whom you wish. Ask yourself "If we have been saved, why doesn't Jesus immediately take us to heaven with Him?" Because our work is here in the Earth until He comes. What is that work? preach the gospel.
Duck4212 3 months ago
If bible is Law, then how about:
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged”
You super-enthuastic christians are just incredibly amusing.
YellowIsTheHeadBand 3 months ago
"Listen to me I am old man I have predicted end of the world many times I was always wrong and I that thing with haiti was satans doing, listing to me I know what I am saying" ..."thats so true thats so true"
Ben1987X 3 months ago
If that old man shit on the floor that woman would eat it all up...*sorry for the grotesque image*
TooDangBad1 3 months ago
God says a Christian cannot marry a non- Christian(Corinthians) I cant believe how many so called 'christians dont know anything about this! Even when shown this verse, people ignore it....the conclusion is that We have many, many false converts in America...
dnlcast2 4 months ago
@dnlcast2 Oh, so you follow the whole Bible, eh? You're a "true" Christian? You would kill someone if you thought them a witch (Exodus 22:18)? You stone blasphemers and fortune tellers to death (Leviticus 24:16 and 20:27)? Or kill an entire town if even one person worships a god other than your own (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)?
Or maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't be using a bronze-age book written by half-literate superstitious nomads to dictate our morality.
barrontuber 4 months ago
He's partially right. No atheist worth his salt would be with a woman who would listen to Pat Robertson. The relationship is doomed.
LostManSays 4 months ago 4
I would say that this is surprisingly good advice from Pat for once. I can't see a strong marriage truly functioning with someone who is religious vs someone who is an atheist. Too strong opinions on opposite ends of the spectrum on a very hot button issue which would unquestionably have a very negative impact on the marriage.
"He's going to be serving the Devil ... it's that simple ..." ... LOL. Okay, Pat ... back to the Nursing Home for you.
MystikWizard 4 months ago
How can he give relationship advice, has he ever had a relationship? Really? No, I mean really,
daverigby23 4 months ago
You are a parasite on this planet, waste of oxygen Mr Robertson!
decalco137 4 months ago 2
What's most disturbing to me is the sheer cavalier manner in which he distributes this "advice" without any regard for the fact that the woman who asked the question was looking for compassion and understanding, and a way to meet her fiance in the middle. It's clear from the question that she loves the guy, so to arbitrarily suggest leaving with no other options is just cruel and heartless on Mr. Robertson's part. Shame on him.
cmorrow74 4 months ago
The Bible verse he is referencing is 2 Corinthians 6:15, "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?" Apparently he is following this verse to the letter and using it as a guideline to predict the outcome of a marriage between two complete strangers, without knowing anything about the nature of their relationship. He's not exactly thinking in shades of gray here.
evilphil 4 months ago
"You'll be serving God while he serves the Devil!" (even though he doesn't think there is one) "There is no middle ground because it is impossible for a Christian and a hell-bound atheist to get along, ever" (even if they are understanding and have mutual respect for each other)
Subordinate: That is true. That is so true.
evilphil 4 months ago
What an ignorant, intolerant arsehole.
Pinage 4 months ago 3
pat is a clueless ass
XtraordinaryAtheist 4 months ago
Get fucked
UncoProductions 4 months ago
Pat missed the part where the bible says she should kill him.
Come on Pat, what's wrong? Not going to quote from your bible and tell her what it really says?
bobafruti 5 months ago
"he will be serving the devil." it is a little difficult, and most likely impossible to serve something that doesn't exist and you don't believe in.
travmanbw43 5 months ago
Dear Ronnie,
if you want middle ground don't seek advice from people who have their heads RIGHT up their ass. Seek true middle ground.
Sincerely
Reality check
Boudiga 5 months ago
who cares if the woman is a theist, it's just one more thing she is wrong about. *high five male friend*
rememberthename33 5 months ago
"that's so true, that is so true." - Words of wisdom from a moron.
rememberthename33 5 months ago
i am an athiest and my girlfriend isnt and we have been together for 13 years and we do have some disagreements. but we love each other and thats what the main focus must be. she dont like pat condell but for some reason she dont dispute most of what he says. pat condell is one of the smartest people i have ever heard speak and has a great sence of humor. he would never give advice as retarted as this. pat condell is awesome and pat robertson is an insult to humanity just like islam.
FREEALIST 5 months ago
@FREEALIST LMAO
I understand why you two work out.
Your both a couple of racist scumbags.
I hope you both enjoy many a pride rally together, the perfect example of how belief in god is not as important as how much you hate dem sand niggers.
At least when sex is involved eh?
FuturePants 5 months ago
@FuturePants get off your mommy's computer and get back to your video game little boy. quit bothering people. quit pissin the bed too. good thing mom put that plastic cover on it is all i can say. bedwetter.
FREEALIST 5 months ago
@FREEALIST
All I heard was "blah blah blah I am a product of incest"
It's kind of funny how you think/thought I was a theist just because I didn't agree with you though.
Please continue though, I need to hear more ranting from a racist douchebag on the internet.
FuturePants 5 months ago
@FuturePants you thro the n word around like rice at a wedding but im a racist ? people who dont like pat robertson, islam or any other form of religious facism are not racists you idiot ! you are !! learn the definition of a racist asswipe !!! your picture is next to the word !!! now piss off allready !!! BASTARD !!!!
FREEALIST 5 months ago
@FREEALIST I forget sarcasm is lost on people without 2 brain cells to rub together.
Hating muslims because they are muslim and wishing to exile them for their religion is racism, and it hurts the already stained reputation of atheists.
throw a tantrum all you want, you are the racist, I think pat condell is a racist prick, you adore the man.
FuturePants 5 months ago
@FuturePants if i have 2 brain cells its still 2 more than you have. pat condell warned of condescending athiest like you. watch his video called (why debate dogma) its got your name all over it. i dont hate anyone but you and people who advocate sharia. like i said, islam and any other religions are not a race. so its impossible to be a racist just because i dont like there poison idea's. i never said a damn thing about exile so stop trying to put words in my mouth. stick something in yours !
FREEALIST 5 months ago
@FREEALIST Proof that anyone can be a hypocrite as long as they are ignorant and arrogant.
Keep digging your hole bro.
FuturePants 4 months ago
I understand why you are so hostile though, I really do.
It's hard supporting someone who you have not spent 5 seconds researching.
Pat said he wanted to exile muslims from the UK you fucking idiot, that is why I mentioned it.
And keep sucking his dick, it shows how much you crave authority to support your ideals.
I don't need to twist words and play symmantics to prove my point (racism =/= religious prejudice)
Also try not doing what you accuse me of doing. It makes you look like a tool.
FuturePants 4 months ago
@FuturePants really ? you again ? i thought maybe you finally got off my dick allready. i saw in one of your vids that you said you were bisexual. i hope you go all the way gay so you never reproduce. i dont hate gays but i allways wondered how one man could find love in another mans hairy ass. why dont you answer that for everyone.
FREEALIST 4 months ago
@FREEALIST Keep posting your prejudice assholery.
You just make yourself look worse every time you open your festering craw.
All you have done is sling poop and make un-backed claims.
Ad-hominems and straw-men don't win arguements, logical thinking and actually backing up what you claim does.
But feel free to continue being a jackass, I know it makes you feel better about how much of a hateful worthless human being you are.
FuturePants 4 months ago
@FREEALIST Oh, and when you say you don't hate gays... It is usually a good idea not to immediately post gay-bashing hate speech.
But if it is any consolation, most hatefull racist assholes like you end up having gay kids or inter-racially married children just because you are so much of an asshole that they tend to do it just because you prove how ignorant and backwards racism is.
I am glad you are on youtube because the best way to fix racism is for people to see your pompous ass online.
FuturePants 4 months ago
@FuturePants stop trying to ask me out dude. its never going to happen. trust me on that.
FREEALIST 4 months ago
@FREEALIST Awww you give up?
Superior intellect got you reduced to 4th grade name-calling?
FuturePants 4 months ago
@FuturePants i know your lonely and i can see why your looking for a father figure. like i said i aint the one you need. cause i would only treat you like shit and make you feel even more unwanted and useless. you and mr.robertson on the other hand would be great together. you could polish his belt buckle while he sets his beer on your flat head. after all that what its there for right ? intellect ? your quackin me up silly duck !!!
FREEALIST 4 months ago
@FREEALIST 3rd grade name-calling
Do you know any way to solve your problems besides calling names like a little child and acting superior?
Your life must be so awesome.
I am surprised you can do nothing but act like a douche and come off so arrogant, you are not cool, you are not funny. You are not clever, you are just a douchebag.
A huge, hateful, ignorant douchebag.
FuturePants 4 months ago
@FuturePants i dont have any problems except trying to find you a good home. is there no person out there that will adopt this stray ! i fed him once and you know the rest. my life is pretty awesome though. im positive its better than yours. you see im not confused like you. i know that my women is the one for me. where as you are still torn on whether you want a pole or a hole. you will probably just be greedy and eat both. no wonder its so hard to find you a good home.
FREEALIST 4 months ago
I sure hope ol' Robertson isn't right about God and its nature, or I'm going to end up fighting for the Devil. Fortunately, I'm pretty sure Robertson's totally full of shit.
SocialistCatgirl 6 months ago
you know what,this guy needs to go hang out with oral roberts in hell...he stole the 700 club from the bakkers back in the day...he is a washed up old pimp turning out his last holes..
MrEnlightenup 6 months ago
Fuck this guy.
ColbyFoote 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey Again says you! But the fact that many such people do marry atheists all the time simply shows you to be wrong. Pat assumed nothing. He listened to nothing in the letter except the word atheist. He simply ignored the fact the person wanted a "middle ground" and told them there could be no such thing. Ever. And he is not just giving that advice to this person but all viewers of the show.
It is bad advice no matter how you twist or change it. Plain and simple.
irishmauddib 6 months ago 14
Er yes, yes you can.
irishmauddib 4 months ago
Says you but for some people it is not. For still others being religious doesnt mean religion takes precedence over love and people. In fact for some their religion leads them to put more importance into people and love.
The differences between us are what make us strong in this life, not some religious need to make us all identical clones. There are uncountable couples living very happily in a way that proves that the advice in this video is simply wrong.
irishmauddib 6 months ago 3
lol 700 ways of FAIL.
serving the devil? well lets see God lets people in Africa starve to death.. O ya and he lets Earthquakes hit places like "Christ Church" yep god is real he just loves killing people. O wait it's part of his plan right?
so his plan is to create a a baby, then have it die at the age of 2, because of a Disease.... right..... talk about a waste of time.
really if you think there is a God get your head check I was a Baptist for 19 years and I'm not anymore.
Dogmeat1950 6 months ago 2
And Christians can still both be republican and democrat. It is the differences between us that make us strong and our relationships worth having. According to Pat however it is the differences that should keep us apart, which is why his advice is so bad.
It is you that calls it the "most important bond". Maybe it is to you, but it is not to all people who have religion. Some things are more important to them, such as each other. Youre judging others by your own poor preferences.
irishmauddib 6 months ago 4
@PhilSchlenkerHockey And you speak like religion is the absolutely correct side. Fail.
Polterguist 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey What if they're already married, .. are they suposed to get a divorce ( which Jesus condemns ) ?
voluminoushead888 6 months ago
"Extremely difficult"? There are many people who do it. All relationships are difficult. They are all hard work. They all take strong input and compromise to function. That is just how relationships are. Conflicting views on some things are no reason not to be with someone. Atheists marry christians all the time. Republicans marry Democrats all the time. Vegetarians marry heavy meat eaters all the time.
No one ever said relationships need to be easy. They are work. The work makes them worth it.
irishmauddib 6 months ago 3
I am an atheist and my wife is a christian. We have been together for 14 years. We have a great relationship full of trust and love. We have a son. He goes to a christian day care. I dont mind. He will go to a public school and learn what he needs to about science. He will make his own mind up on what he wants to believe. My wife goes to church with her freind. We have discused religion with never an argument. Belief or non belief is the least controversial topic in our household.
sariglenn 7 months ago 37
@sariglenn Your wife doesn't really believe.
Or she thinks she can save you.
Or something else, but she doesn't think what you think she thinks, that would be paradoxical.
Noone loves someone and simultaneously thinks they are going to, and deserve to be tortured alive for eternity over something that is "the least controversial topic in your household".
Sorry bro.
FuturePants 5 months ago
@FuturePants The level at which someone believes in religion differs from person to person. My wife truly believes there is a creator Does she believe every detail about christianity... no she doesnt. Does that make her a hypocrite? No more than a catholic would seem to be a hypocrite to a southern baptist.
She has hope that god will be merciful to people like me. Regardless of what preachers say or the bible says. She is very smart but wont let go of her beliefs. I respect that in her.
sariglenn 5 months ago
@sariglenn How can there be discussions, yet no arguments if there are two fundamentally different beliefs?
Kimjongil3000 4 months ago
@Kimjongil3000 I know, its just lunacy to think that 2 people who love each other can have a conversation where one belief is polar opposite the other, and do it in a civilized manner, and not argue about it. We have disagreements. We just understand each other.
On my end I feel as long her beliefs bring her happiness and doesn't do any harm to others, why would I care what she believed. And on her end ,she has hope that god will be merciful to people like me.
sariglenn 4 months ago
@irishmauddib She's not asking how to fix anything. If she were, she would go to a professional. Here, she went to Pat Robertson. Face facts. She didn't even go to the minister of her OWN CHURCH. She got precisely what she was looking for? He gave fantastic advice.
And yes, this IS inductive reasoning. ie, there's certain moving parts you can insert that make the equation work. Robertson actually did the same thing. He knows what he's doing just as I know what he's doing. You're ignoring it.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate I see no good advice in this video at all. Sorry. If you are aware of any then feel free to adumbrate it. It appears wholly imagined to me.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
Because you DISAGREE with the advice doesn't make it poor. Understand that nuance or I can't adumbrate (great word BTW) it. Remove yourself from it. In fact, put yourself in Roni's place. She wanted to hear the opinion of a like-minded person. She didn't want to hear an informed opinion that would be rich with data & well-tested advice on how to deal. She had 1 foot out the door & she LITERALLY wanted Pat's blessing. Being a good minister, he blessed her with the advice he rendered.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate Did I at any point SAY that I think it is poor solely because I disagree with it? No, I think it is poor, because it is poor. Maybe you would do better to reply to the things I have been saying, rather than imagining things I have not said and replying to them instead.
As I said, if you think there is good advice in what he said then feel free to adumbrate what you think it is.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib You didn't have to say that was your reason because everything else you've said points to that. "I think it's poor because it's poor" isn't acceptable logic.
I've already stated it but I'll repeat it. Given the context, the person whom he's advising & what he said, it's good advice. Since you aren't American, you don't understand the level of nuttiness that comes from Christians who'd seek advice from a crackpot like Robertson. Perhaps that's what you're missing.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
No everything I said points to what Ive said. Which is why I ask you reply to it, not what you invented.... inserted into my mouth.... and replied to instead. Conversation is impossible if you read X and reply to Y is it not.
The advice is not good, as all the people with differing religions, level of religions, or no religions living happily together testify to. Not just in the US but all over the world. That religion should be used as a wedge between lovers is never going to be good advice.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib Everything you said points to that. You're talking about "making it work" & "getting along". That's YOUR opinion. But Roni didn't write you an email. You disagree with Robertson's conclusions. I get that. But in this case, he's actually correct & he's giving good advice. Yes, people with different religions DO manage. But that's NOT the case HERE. She's specifically wrote to PAT. That tells you something already. Listen to how she framed it: she's gung ho. Her fiance ain't. Get it?
upabittoolate 7 months ago
Again reply only to what I say please not what you IMAGINE it "points" to.
The advice isnt good. Especially given he is not just giving it to the person who wrote, but applying it generally to all people living with people of differing or no faith. Theres people watching who are otherwise perfectly happy but might now be moved to think they shouldnt be.
What you are missing is that the advice is general, not specific to the writer. Get it?
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib What you don't understand is that in THIS case, there's already a wedge between her fiance & her. If there weren't, she wouldn't be writing Pat Robertson in the FIRST place. She's already a religious nutjob. Her partner may be some kind of nutjob but he's astute enough to not buy into brand-name, religious nonsense. She & her fiance are not on the same page. Why don't you get that?
upabittoolate 7 months ago
You do not know the people who wrote in so calling them named like "nut job" is just fantasy. You do not have to be a nut job to turn to the wrong person for advice in a time of confusion or need. The fact is that his advice is not specific to the person who wrote in. Listen to it again. He is giving the advice generally to all people watching the show. The advice is not good at all. Good advice would be to tell the writer that all people in relationships have differences and similarities.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
Apply the advice in general context. I like coffee she likes tea. Itll never work. I am democrat she is republican. It will never work. I have religion she does not. It will never work. Humans would have NO relationships at all if they split because of every difference, real or imagined, between them. It is the differences between us that relationships revel in and thrive on. That is why his advice is bad. He is suggesting ending a relationship purely because of a difference of opinion. Get it?
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib My friend, you can't use a "general" context because we're dealing with specific players in a specific context. Get it? We're not talking about coffee versus tea. We're talking about someone's fundamental beliefs about the basis of their mortal existence. In truth, couples split up all the time & you better believe it's over pettier reasons than philosophical differences. This isn't a simple difference of opinion.
She's a born-again Christian. Her advised her accordingly.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
That is why I used the coffee example and the republican example. It doesnt matter the level of the belief, there is always common ground for peace, discourse, and in celebrating the differences between us. Bad advice from kooks and warmongers like this saying there is no peace to be had is just a) bad advice and b) patently false. And people get on in love all the time with massive differences between them. So any advice saying such peace is not possible is just false.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib It's not about coffee though. What you don't get is that she's not looking for middle ground. She's looking for Jesus. She didn't ask for advice on how to cope from a guy that copes. She asked a far-right, self-righteous, Southern minister. I know you're not American. But what the fuck did she think he was gonna say? She knew full well what he'd say.
Maybe you don't give people enough credit. But I'm not easily fooled. She knew what she wanted to hear & whom she asked it from.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
"What you don't get is that she's not looking for middle ground"
Again I have no time for your lies. She said "What I think we need is a good middle ground". You said she is not looking for middle ground. I have no time for lies or the liars who tell them.
It seems what you do, to her and to me, is when someone says something that is inconvienient to your world view, you just turn on the lying machine and pretend they never said it, or they said something else.
I dont like liars sorry.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib It's not a lie. Everyone in America knows that you're not gonna get a thoughtful answer from Pat-fucking-Robertson. Roni knew that too. It's like asking a doctor of allopathic treatments about ayurvedic protocols. You KNOW what the doctor is going to say.
This has nothing to do with my worldview. This has something to do with my understand of the minds of the born-again Christians & the Pat Robertsons of the world. They aren't on "middle" ground. Don't you understand that?
upabittoolate 7 months ago
"It's not a lie."
Yes it is. She said one thing. You claim she is saying another. This is a lie. I do not like lies, and I do not like the liars who tell them.
When you want to be honest and reply to what she actually said, I am here for you. Keep telling lies and I have no time for this.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib My friend, I'm not sure why you're missing this. I'll repeat it for you. If she were seeking moderate advice, she'd look for it elsewhere. It's really just that simple. Quite often people say things but reveal their true meanings in other ways. In this case it was easy to spot. In whatever walk of life you are in the US, you know who Pat Robertson. Furthermore, if you've watched him enough, you know what he's gonna say. This isn't rocket science mate.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
See? More lies. You keep saying I am your friend when I am not. Lie after lie.
She said she wants a middle ground. You said she doesnt. So you are lying. If you keep lying then I will keep pointing out you are lying.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
Another reason it is bad advice is that discourse is the most important thing we have. Finding middle ground for discourse is immensely important. Here however he is saying that is not possible. Atheists are serving the devil. There is no middle ground. There is no peace.
This kook is essentially telling people not to even try and talk to atheists. They are satanic, evil, there can be no peace with them. Why dont you get that?
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib Dude, she's not looking for middle ground. She didn't ask advice from someone that's impartial or rational. She didn't ask a professional counselor. She didn't even ask her own minister. She didn't seek out a parent, a friend, a sibling, a mentor or even her own fiance. She went to the craziest motherfucker she could find. What does that tell you? It tells me that their relationship wasn't that strong to begin with. Why don't you get that?
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate "she's not looking for middle ground" Now you are just making things up and lying. Watch the video again. Her exact words were "What I think we need is a good middle ground".
So you, like you did with me, have taken what she ACTUALLY SAID... and lied and changed it into something she NEVER SAID and replied to that instead.
I am sorry but I have no time for such lies or the liars who tell them. Nor am I your "friend" by the way nor do I wish to be.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
"She went to the craziest motherfucker she could find. What does that tell you?"
It does not tell me anything because there are a multitude of possible reasons for it that we can not presume to know because neither of us know the person concerned. We do not even know if the person exists. We do not know if the person has ever watched the show before or even knows who Pat is. It could have been a recommendation from someone else. We know nothing about her, despite you insisting on pretending to.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
My friend, you're not familiar with Pat Robertson. But here on the west side of The Pond, we know what televangelists are up to. The most naive man knows what you'll get if you ask Pat Robertson something. Q: Hey Pat, what topping would you like on your pizza? A: Jesus. Q: Hey Pat, what's your favorite car? A: Amen. Q: Pat, what's 2+2? A: The Lord.
She knew what question she was asking & to whom she directed it. That's what he DOES. He's shite & anyone who'd defer to him is shite.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate I am not your friend and you know nothing about me so stop lying about me. I know Robertson quite well thank you.
As I said I have no time for your lies. SHE said in her own words she wants a middle ground. YOU keep saying she doesnt want a middle ground. If you want to keep lying then this conversation will go no further than this sticking point.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
@irishmauddib My friend, I know that you're not in the US. Therefore you don't have as much exposure Pat Robertson as I do. I'm sure you've come across a born-again Christian or 2. But it's evident that you haven't set your feet on any land in the Bible Belt. If you did, you'd've known what I was getting at all along. If she were looking for middle ground, she wouldn't ask Pat Robertson. It's really quite simple. You don't ask diet advice from the guy who's peddling cheeseburgers & fries.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
Im not your friend and again you make up facts you dont know. Youve NO IDEA what country Im in so again stop lying
She said 1 thing you said she means the opposite. This is lies. You dont know her. You only know your lies. Reply to what she said and Im here for you. Keep lying and pretending she said the opposite of what she said and this conversation can not proceed past this point
Stop making things up about me you do not know too, just more lies from you. Lie after lie after lie with you.
irishmauddib 7 months ago 3
Good to see you have decided to give up the lying and not reply. Though maybe you have decided to run away for another 2 years before you come back and try again, I dunno. Either way the point is clear, the advice in the video is not good at all, and pretending that she is saying the EXACT opposite of what she is saying... which you just did... does not change that fact one iota.
irishmauddib 6 months ago
I bet Roni's a man. Wouldn't Pat trip if he knew that...
nlytend1 7 months ago
For ONCE in my life I agree with Pat Robertson. I feel funny inside.
hamzah938 7 months ago
this is so stupid that i actually find it amusing!
herefordguy 7 months ago
I find it funny how Christians think that atheists worship the devil when he is a figure in Christianity.
Knowledge FAIL......
TheSpartan2910 7 months ago 2
I didn't know I was a servant of the devil up to now.
c0p13dn4m3 7 months ago
lol what a christian thing to say. its guys like this dinosaur why i am an athiest. "he'll be serving the devil" ummm not if he is an athiest.
lordrazr 7 months ago 3
ohhh grandpa ... have you not been taking your meds again
djbadlt 7 months ago 2
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the bible says... lost his argument
RichardTeh3rd 7 months ago
"He's going to be serving the devil" I LOL'd
evergreen9375 7 months ago 3
Yep, in the long run, it's just not worth it. Their relationship and future children are going to SUFFER if this relationship progresses to marriage.
choongd 7 months ago
If she truly loved him, she never turned on Pat Robertson again.
Patriots09ist 8 months ago
Their is no middle ground in marriage? My goodness this man just told a person to break up with the person she loves because of religion. This man is the reason atheism is the fastest growing religion in the US. Keep up the intolerance and tell me where that gets you.
landesdesign 8 months ago
@landesdesign Atheism is not a religion. It's the exact opposite of that: a complete lack of a belief in a god or religion. It's the default position, and how we're born. I'm glad more and more people are opening their eyes to reality, but to call atheism a religion is a huge injustice.
iconamongidols 8 months ago
@landesdesign Just wanted to second what iconamongidols said. I'm sure you meant no harm, but please don't call atheism a religion. It is the lack of belief in gods, nothing more and nothing less. The only reason many of us feel compelled to "organize" in a fashion similar to religion is because we are a minority (in America anyway). If we don't stand by each other, for the most part, no one else will.
megjett 8 months ago
@megjett and iconamongidols. I understand atheism is not a religion. Even the most liberal sites such as HuffPost does not have a section for us. It is the religion link that our expressions are heard. I am glad you two put me in my place though. Dawkins say we atheists are like herding cats. So my worlds were an insult to you and embarrassing to me. Being from Kansas should not be an excuse but a LOT of people here think atheists are walking evil.
landesdesign 8 months ago
@landesdesign True, we discuss (and some of us battle) religion and/or the religious a lot, but that doesn't make atheism itself a religion. (I know you understand this; I'm just reiterating for others.) My main concern was that we have too many theists spreading the misconception that atheism is a religion for us to do it to ourselves. Rest assured I didn't take any personal offense; it was only out of concern for the "movement," if you will, that I spoke up. Do you live in Kansas?
megjett 8 months ago
@megjett Yes I live in Kansas. I work for Kansas House Democrats during elections and am involved with atheist movements here. Well online mostly. The movement I believe is moving forward because of civil discussions like we are having. I think even in Kansas their are a lot more rational people who can be productive in conversations like this. Without damnation and hell fire coming into play.
landesdesign 8 months ago
@landesdesign It's always good to know that some progress is being made. I've yet to align myself with any formal organization or movement, but I'm glad to hear that others like you are working towards making a difference. I, too, have succeeded in having civil, sometimes productive conversations with other theists, but for every polite one it seems like there is one (or even two) who seem content to judge rather than to understand. Keep doing what you're doing!
megjett 8 months ago
This is disgusting. I can't believe Pat is even allowed to be on TV. All that is behind that old face is a scared child who believes what Mom and Dad taught him. What a judgmental prick. Anytime I have a bad day, I'm going to watch this video and really appreciate I am not neurologically built like Pat R.
foosejax 8 months ago
I wonder if "love thy neighbor as thyself" means... My followers shall live only in christian communities?
sssharp1 8 months ago
Ah! Let them have a go at it, Pat... The divorce rate for christian marriages, married under god, with gods blessings and let no man put asunder, is the same as that of nonbelievers. I know that God not helping christian marriages, is because god works in mysterious ways, therefore, maybe it was god's plan for them to be together and they got the same odds of it working as anybody... Go ahead Pat, be a good christian and rob them of their HAPPINESS!
sssharp1 8 months ago
"No fellowship"
HMMMMMMM
Seems like a surefire plan for Christians to DISTANCE themselves from non-believers. Christians of a certain persuasion obviously don't actually care about non-believers. Sickening.
arc27 8 months ago
the real answer is to just share mutual respect for the beliefs of the other and not try to force anything on eachother. I know an athiest-fundamentalist christian couple who have been married for years, this guy is a nutter.
987654321bang 8 months ago
I cant say whats more apalling... the stupid "advice" or the "that is so true" comment in the end...
bresophil 8 months ago
I like how christians say that aslong as you have the lord and jesus then you will go to heaven, but an athiest will go to hell. So your tellin me that a guy that rapes and murders people but believes in jesus will go to heaven, but I wont cause im not a believer.
23eirish 8 months ago
I kinda have to admit I'm on the same side as pat on this one but definitely not for the same reason. I can't see myself spending my life with somebody who doesn't have a firm grasp of reality.
nitrorev386 9 months ago
@nitrorev386 While I agree for the most part I have dated several women that believe in god, and possibly religion, but don't practice in any way. I think in these cases it doesn't really matter much to me if it isn't a focus of their life. Of course they need to have enough intelligence to question this, and there is no way I would marry someone who is a church goer. Someone that leans Agnostic, but was brainwashed into the cult of their parent's religion I can let slide a bit more.
Reip187 9 months ago
That was the dumbest advice I've ever heard.
deloreans 9 months ago 27
Hahahahaha!!! "That is so true, that is so true", hhahahaha!!
doriamedina 9 months ago 2
Hahahahaha!!!
doriamedina 9 months ago
Pat's god tells us to murder young women who have premarital sex, says we can sell our daughters into slavery, and tells us that a slave is property. Pat worships a god who says "love me without evidence that I exist or I will destroy you". Pat thinks that the bloating corpses of children in Haiti are the result of his god's justice. People create gods in their own image, and Pat Robertson created a god of intolerance and hate.
FosterZygote 9 months ago
Pat is right.. A christian and an atheist cant get married.. neither can a muslim and a christian if they fully comitted to their religion. Why are y'all insulting him, you're probably not christians so u wouldn't understand. Anyways forgive them Lord they know not what they doing.. God bless you all
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
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arc27 8 months ago
@Wira91Obi
Hey hey hey! Who says Pat can't be criticized! Probably a majority of Christians would criticize him VERY strongly for how he does things. Don't ask forgiveness for people who are merely criticizing this man! He gets things wrong! Just because someone is a Christian, that does NOT mean everything they say and do is right! Christians err too!
arc27 8 months ago
@arc27 you're right about that he's not always right, and has a harsh way of preaching the gospel, which can be misunderstood by especially non-believers.. But let God judge him , we're the one's to do so..
Wira91Obi 8 months ago
@Wira91Obi
I think we need to judge him because he's arguably a bad influence. If God judges him (if God exists and judges people), he will apparently judge Pat after he is dead, which is too late. Pat will have already used 700 club donations to finance his diamond mine in Africa, and he will have said offensive things that give non-Christians a bad taste about religious people. I'd rather that Christians and non-Christians could get along with less biased hatred for one another.
arc27 8 months ago
@TheSidney1961 Mary got pregnant by the holy spirit.. study your Bible! God bless you
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
@Wira91Obi I have studied the Bible at length. That is why I know that the real punishment for a girl who was found to be pregnant prior to her marriage would be death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21
FosterZygote 9 months ago
@FosterZygote .. I know all those stuff we written in Deu are very strick, but thats the old testament, the new testament is about forgiving, because God felt mercy for his people so he sent Jesus so that we can pray through Jesus and get forgiveness from God.. My mum got pregnant outside marriage, but her family didn't kill her, they were happy to see me. Babies are blessings no matter what. Jesus said let the small children come to me, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
@Wira91Obi So YHWH corrected his mistake? Tell me, what about all the cruelty, murder, genocide, misogyny, slavery, fear and horror visited on YHWH's children prior to this "benevolent" act of his? It seems to me that YHWH should be asking for OUR forgiveness for demanding that his followers slaughter women and children, permit slavery, repress women and all the other evil things done on his orders.
FosterZygote 9 months ago
@FosterZygote God is love always! Satan is ruling the world thats why, and its therefore best that you give your life to jesus get saved before its too late.. Jesus is coming back to get those who believe in him!
God bless you
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
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@Wira91Obi But God said that he creates evil.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
If Jesus is love, why is he only coming back to get those who believe in him? What sort of a megalomaniac would destroy those who do not believe in him? If you'd said that Jesus was going to grant eternal happiness to everyone, I might believe you. But the creature you describe is despicably cruel and arrogant.
FosterZygote 9 months ago
@Wira91Obi God is always love??? That love just unleashed the worst outbreak of tornadoes on the area of the country that is most dedicated to this "God is love"...You are living a delusion! The human mind created every god that has ever existed in the mind of the believer & that includes the Christian god. I read your comment & it reminds me of Clash of the Titans as they appeal to Zeus to fight the dark forces. I do have feelings of deep sorrow for people like yourself! SAD!
Viracocha711 9 months ago
@Viracocha711 Jesus is coming back soon to get his people. All these tornados are not from God, but signs of the end of the world Luke 21.. The world has gone crazy like i said before satan is in controll look at all the things happening. God is love...! For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
God bless you and reviel himself too him.
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
@Viracocha711 Jesus is coming back soon to get his people. All these tornados are not from God, but signs of the end of the world Luke 21.. The world has gone crazy like i said before satan is in controll look at all the things happening. God is love...! For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
God bless you and reviel himself too you.
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
@Wira91Obi I could only WISH there was actually a god, the Christian god, and he would come scoop all you folks up so the rest of us could get on with building a society based on HUMANITY & not some imaginary Bronze Age Myth!
Viracocha711 9 months ago
@Viracocha711 ok, you are allowed to have ur own opinion.. I respect that! But let those who want to believe do so, and mind your own business. After all Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things you cant see. I dont force anyone to believe in Christ.. Its up to y'all.
Have a nice day and peace out!
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
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@Viracocha711 Jesus is coming back soon to get his people. All these tornados are not from God, but signs of the end of the world Luke 21.. The world has gone crazy like i said before satan is in controll look at all the things happening. God is love...! For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
God bless you and reviel himself to you.
Wira91Obi 9 months ago
In the beginning, man created God.....and its been fucked up ever since!
bermudaguy1 9 months ago
Imagine he said "dump him because he is a jew" or "dump him because he is a muslim" or "dump him because he is black" yet some how because he is an atheist it isnt racist or prejudice.
but i guess attacking an atheist is ok because they are backed by so much evidence. its like some one saying scarlett johansson is ugly. its not offensive really because its so obviously un true.
jay1lees 9 months ago
What an arrogant bastard. Who is Robertson to decide who is "serving the devil" or "serving God" First of all, neither are proven to exist. Secondly, Where does Robertson get off going around judging others.... deciding who is the good-guy and who is the bad guy !?!? It is exactly why, when religion is scrutinized, it fails. It is unnecessarily judgmental, self-righteous and often comes-off sounding obnoxious. Ever wonder what it would be like if religion didn't exist?
orangemod 9 months ago
Pat Robertson is a conman who owns diamond mines in Africa. Why do people even listen to this guy?
Svperstarr 9 months ago
@Svperstarr
Dumb sheeples listen to this freak of nature....
bohemianwriter1 9 months ago
"there is no fellowship between an atheist and somebody who believes in god"
interesting how he says that but feels that the atheists are responsible for tension between the religious and non-religious
leahsetag 9 months ago
Wow, just wow
TheQtip1581 9 months ago
OH MY GOD. what horrible, devisive crap.
TheGracewithmace 9 months ago
What a decrepit piece of shit. Breaking up a couple over 4000 year old outdated principles. Jesus Fucking Christ some people dont deserve to be human.
BeggarSyu 9 months ago
wow, I cannot believe what he is suggesting. what else would he advocate in the name of religion?
Dumbeldork 9 months ago
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I agree. I think that the atheist should find someone else. He will be miserable with her.
goddamnthisisdumb 9 months ago
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I agree. I think that the atheist should go find someone else. He will be miserable with her.
goddamnthisisdumb 9 months ago
Pat Robertson Is a fraud and is making millions promoting his book of fiction and destruction.
dittrich1962 9 months ago
This motherfucker serves the devil he makes so much fucking money by selling lies to people all over the world!!!!!!
TheSnoop105 10 months ago
Pat Robertson is a man that by this statement is a moron. O hope he will one day pick up a nonfiction book for once.
atchisrj1 10 months ago