The Cortina and Escort were wonderful, the Marina and Ital were shit barely superior to soviet products. Japanese cars of the time were far superior, in 1970 you could get a Datsun 1200 with disk brakes, MacPherson struts, assembled by a real worker instead of a pension-sucking communist. You could also get a BMW 2002 which was a magnificent car. Keep in mind that just 745 Marinas are still on the road 30 years after production stopped, out of 875,000 sold. It's shit.
for all you marina fans out there the ital got its name by italy giving the marina a facelift at a tune of 2 million pounds in the 70s which cost BL dearly.not money well spent.there is a book liisting all cars designed in italy.nowhere does it list the ital.food for thought eh?
@TheVx490 The Ital is not for really me either (a step back in design perhaps, but the "MARINA" that really does drive nicely indeed how the car should have drove from new)
Maybe the money spent to spruce up the Marina was better spent than you might think in Ital form the car lasted an other 4 years and this kept it often in the top ten sellers in the UK .
The worst thing about the Ital is the re-worked inner wings that are just pure rust traps (a stupid thing to change them and for what?)
The Morris Marina was nothing but a "facelift" off a Morris Minor. It was cheap, and it was one off the worst cars ever buildt . Yes the russian and east-german cars were not better, but they were even cheaper than a Morris Marina, so you simply can´t compare ... The Morris Marina - a car that should never had reach the production line ...
@YS28863 You are incorrect in your statement that the Marina was a "face lifted Morris Minor" the Marina was a replacement for the "Farina" car range Cambridge, MG Magnette Mk. III, Morris Oxford V, Riley and Wolseley 15/60.z
And yes you can compare East European and Russian cars against a Morris Marina (just as an auto journalist would and still do)
As to the cars production,the Marina remained as the number 3 top seller in the UK during most of the 1970s proving this statement incorrect.
@themaneatingchimp In my country ( Denmark) you could buy many other cars at the same price as a Morris Marina like Ford Escort, Opel Kadett, Toyota Corolla and Datsun 120 Y - cars that were more reliable and much better quality . In Denmark the import off BLMC cars like Morris Mini, Austin Allegro, and Morris Marina stopped early in the 1980´s because off the pure quality and the competion from Japan . In DK you could buy a much better Toyota Starlet for the same price as a Mini 850 in 1980.
@YS28863 I cannot speak for the quality of Ford and Opel products in Denmark but in the UK they were on a level with BL of the time,as for the Japanese cars you state,reliability perhaps(the 120Y uses a version of the Austin "A" series engine") but quality never!
Toyota and Datsun were termed as "Jap Crap" in Britian often followed by the term "rust buckets" both companies were known for the exuberant cost of spares.All the European Car makers were caught out by Japanese compotition not just BL
@themaneatingchimp you stated in early comments that ford were crap like vauxhall,but they were holding the 1st & 2nd place iin sales for the 70s,not saying the marina was bad though,but by the time the ital came it was much out of date then in refinements and the ital was hated in the motor trade.i think they suffered very high depreciation from new
@TheVx490 Hi there, yeah quite true the Ital was really one "MARINA" too many but it did sell in pretty good numbers (and made a profit) although long in the tooth by this stage it was priced very competitvely and appealed to a buyer wanting that bit more for their money and not too bothered about image....it was cheap for what you were getting (Lada pitched the same way)
I honestly think most 70's cars are all pretty poor by todays standards,but perhaps Ford were just that bit better hence,
Respond to this video... (cont 2) the reason that both the Cortina and Escort were No1 and No2 in the top sellers list .
And as said a lot of the motoring press hated the Ital (how much of this was just following what was said before them is unsure but re-sale price were fell victim to this)
Strangely for a car so disliked by many, the entire tooling and rights were sold to China to make their own version of the car and even more strangely some were even built.
From what I have read, the problem with the Marina was that BL's predecessor hadn't built a small RWD car since the Morris Minor of 1958 - and that's what they based the suspension of the early seventies Marina on.
If you think that's bad, Australia had a 2.6-litre SIX-CYLINDER Marina on sale - voted by our motoring magazines as "The Car Most Likely To Take A Life".
The marina was only meant as a stop gap and used outdated technology esp in regards to suspension which meant it did not handle as good as similiar vehicles from ford, hillam and vauxhall, also the pre production vehicles were slated by the motoring press for woefull handling, BL promised to fit roll bars on production models on the strength of this the motoring press gave fairly good reviews, however this did not happen and the press feeling conned by BL never forgave them.
Love this clip. It crystallizes the beginning of the end oh the British car. They didn't anticipate the huge shift to front wheel drive. They used ancient technology in the motor and suspension. They styled it as if designed by a committee in Communist Russia. It might have worked but it was colossally mediocre. Finally they competed against their own product. Allegro versus Marina. The lunatics ran the asylum.
The Marina couldn't have been that bad, considering 800 000 were sold, nearly as many as the mk2 Cavalier (806 000). I can think of worse cars that have been around. My dad had a Marina for over ten years and rarely let him down and went from sourthern England to Scotland and back several times without any problems. The Marina, I think has some charm to it. I actually quite like the look of the car and much better than the Allegro, which is dreadful. Allegro, what a horrible name for a car.
the winner takes it all great britain started the industrial revolution who cares if they make bad cars, even the interna cumbastion engine is not german the ide was already there in britain!!
I have a Marina, it's quite a late example (1978) so the understeer problem isn't too bad. The real problem with the Marina was British Leyland's shoddy workers. Marina's, Allegro's and MGB's all suffered from bad assembly (such as screws hammered into the screw holes). I love the honesty of the Morris Marina fandom, you'll struggle to find any other car enthusiasts who will openly admit that their beloved cars were badly built and who embrace the design flaws instead of trying to hide them.
I confess to actually liking the Marina when I first saw it. In my defence, I was only 9 and my then-favourite car was the Opel Kadett! The TC coupé isn't a bad shape for its day.
Of course, its engineering, handling and build quality were what was wrong, not the basic shape.
I had a morris marina 500dl 1300cc light truck. It's been treated badly for over 22 years. It surely wasn't the best car possible(having really bad brakes) but the engine and steering where great for a car that used to cost half as a toyota hilux. It was my first car and i'll never forget it!
Always make me laugh that British Leyland used the very same engines in the Marina as the,MGB,Mini,Morris I000,A30/35,Austin/Morris(ect) 1100/1300,Spitfire,Oxford,Cambridge and the list goes on,Nissan (Datsun) built both A and B series units under licence their modified A series was the staple power unit for many of it's models Sunny,Cherry,120Y ect (no reliability issues there) and is still in production.
Have you heard anyone say that a MinI,MGB,Morris 1000 or Datsun 120Y is unreliable?
So how do you rate these then? FSO,Wartburgh,Daicia,Moskovich,Skoda,and Lada products,the 70's offerings from Fiat,Lancia,and Alfa Romeo,all French cars,Talbot and Simca,Magnifique! Vauxhall,Hillman and the Ford cars from the same period?
Simple the lot were rubbish,and some more than others,the Marina was well on par with all the stuff of the time and although not great was far better than many,oh and the Japanese products of the time,one word four letters RUST.
@MrJezza31 And you really are a TRAIN SPOTTER,but you know that don't you! now fuck off and shove your Pot Noodle well and truly up your arse,before someone tells your mums neighbors you're on the child sex offenders register.
@themaneatingchimp actuelly i am not on the sex offenders list but i think u are defienetly now get some friends and whats wrong with liking railways and trains so fuck off or i will come round your house and kick your arse so hars you wont be able to dump for a week!
@MrJezza31 Yeah course you will,GFPO a empty threat from a fucking TRAIN SPOTTER,that's as frighting as a hit squad from the Girl Guides turning up,hasn't got the same ring to it as the Yardies coming for you has it?
Well you can always introduce yourself to me at a MMOC or Marina Ecosse event,oh hang on you'll not need to i'll just look for the cunt in the orange Kagool and bobble hat.
Oh look it's a "DELTIC".... fuck i've shot my load.
@MrJezza31 Once again "mummy's boy" read my comments correctly,before you show yourself up by stating a load off bollocks,i defend the Marina you retarded twat,and do not as you inaccurately state attack them,what a sack of TRAIN SPOTTER shit your are,and a fucking NONCE too and if you do indeed have a Marina i'm sure we'll meet up and you can carry you empty knife threat out in person.
Go back to playing with your train set,you sad fucker!
@themaneatingchimp i am actually a member of the marina eccouse but i think you should go back yourself to being a little girl guide this is now sounding like rasicam against train apotters now i do like trains but i am not as the defanition goes a train spotter i do film trains but i am not one of those people who stands on the edge of aplatform with a little pork pie and a little book i think you are very abusive 1 i am not a sodding cunt ok 2 i am actuelly sorry as i was in a mood so sorry
@MrJezza31 Are you really a member of Morris Marina & Ital Ecosse? i think not you are a lying bastard as well as thick cunt,i have read the badly worded private message you have sent me,and shall do you the great favour of not divulging the contents (even though you deserve it) your immaturity is now apparent and makes perfect sense,you lame attempt at an apology has spared you that!
Remember who started this,YOU! i have never swore or been abusive unless the other person started it first.
@themaneatingchimp do you actuelly think i enjoy putting lame inslts against people i dont think so no so can we plese reflect that i was in a bad mood that day a really bad mood and i diddnt mean anything against you i just ment that morris marinas are brilliant and evryone should know that ok no offence ok
@Motorfordtoyota I'll take your word on that,we didn't get many imported in to the UK,the main thing i know about them is the legendary fuel tank stories,and wasn't there even a parody of this in the TV series Police Squad?
@mtpylkka11 Yet were they any worse than the products from the other car manufactures of the time? Cars from the 70's are by todays standards mostly poor the're very few cars from that period that stand out.
French cars= poor reliability/ bad build quality ,Italian cars=poor reliability/rust,rust and more rust,German cars=slightly better reliability,build quality but more expensive,Scandinavin cars=see German,Ford= on a par with BL,Vauxhall= see Ford but add extra rusting,Japanese cars=RUST!
@themaneatingchimp My uncle is still an AA patrolman and i've asked him more than once which were the worst cars form that time,and he always says Fords in winter [non-starters] then anything Italian and after that the French stuff [Citroen being the far worst of them] the everything else pretty much the same.
He doesn't rate the Japanese cars that highly either,overrated with excessive spares prices and a waiting list to get them,three weeks to get Mazda oil pump,two weeks to get a water pump.
@justas525 The Marina is not a classic neither is the Moskovich the overused word "CLASSIC" is applied to everything as soon as it gets to 25 years old.
If you had read my post correctly you would see i class all the vehicles stated from the 70's as rubbish cars from then are mosly poor by todays standards.
I was stationed in the GDR in the late 80's and without doubt the drivers of Moskovich cars dispised them but had to tollorate this because there was almost no other automotive alternative
@themaneatingchimp Now in 2011 those cars are really classics. In GDR at the time were much more horrible cars like Trabant and Wartburg, Zaporozec, Lada.
@justas525 Thanks for your reply but i'm not swayed by the passage of time making things a "CLASSIC" i love Marina's and all BL/ARG products (up to the very end) and own both a Marina and a Maxi but to deem them as classic cars just doesn't cut it with me.
If we use the 25 year rule as a general guide to determine classic car status cars ws have the very real and distinct possibility that the Reliant Robin and even the Sinclair C5 are indeed classics......well perhaps they just might be.
2:26 These guys who killed the British Motor Industries, with a wrong choices and bad projects. How the Marina could compete against Ford Cortina/Escort MK II and Hillman Hunter/Avenger, all with better quality?
Why not used the project ADO 68/28, with a Micheloti design? is more beautiful....
Well: incompetent administration + red workers+lack of effective government intervention=death..unfortunately
As it was, the Marina was really a rehash of old BMC components in a new bodyshell - By contrast, the Hillman Avenger (for how conventional the car's specifications were) was actually a clean-sheet design, right down to the engine and platform...
An interesting watch - cheers for uploading. I won't deny, I think the Marina was the worst car made in the UK, but still interesting to watch stuff like this.
I know what you mean about customer service. my mum bought a 1983 Metro 1.3 HLE and within 14months the front wings started rusting along the tops, she took it back expecting to get it sorted under the 6 year anticorrosion warranty and they said that in oder to qualify you needed to get the car annually inspected by them (at my mums expense!), she wasnt told that when she bought the car so she obviously didnt... the car rotted so bad that it was scrapped when it was only 8 years old!!!
PMSL.. "Come up with style that is better than Capri" at 03:44 The MK1 Ford Capri was georgous, This car looks like a garden Shed!! There problemwas lack of customer service once you had bought the car. My dad bought a brand new Marina in 1973, It had rust in the wheel arches and rust bubbles when it was 16 MONTHS old. He took it back to the BL Dealer, They said.... NOT OUR PROBLEM, The warranty is only 1 Year. I am shocked they survived until 2005 wih that attitude!
The Cortina and Escort were wonderful, the Marina and Ital were shit barely superior to soviet products. Japanese cars of the time were far superior, in 1970 you could get a Datsun 1200 with disk brakes, MacPherson struts, assembled by a real worker instead of a pension-sucking communist. You could also get a BMW 2002 which was a magnificent car. Keep in mind that just 745 Marinas are still on the road 30 years after production stopped, out of 875,000 sold. It's shit.
81broncoman 2 months ago
for all you marina fans out there the ital got its name by italy giving the marina a facelift at a tune of 2 million pounds in the 70s which cost BL dearly.not money well spent.there is a book liisting all cars designed in italy.nowhere does it list the ital.food for thought eh?
TheVx490 4 months ago
@TheVx490 The Ital is not for really me either (a step back in design perhaps, but the "MARINA" that really does drive nicely indeed how the car should have drove from new)
Maybe the money spent to spruce up the Marina was better spent than you might think in Ital form the car lasted an other 4 years and this kept it often in the top ten sellers in the UK .
The worst thing about the Ital is the re-worked inner wings that are just pure rust traps (a stupid thing to change them and for what?)
themaneatingchimp 4 months ago
@themaneatingchimp well i wouldn,t have minded the 1,7 slx in its day
TheVx490 4 months ago
id love to hear jeremy larkson disect this documentary
sonofakbar 7 months ago
The Morris Marina was nothing but a "facelift" off a Morris Minor. It was cheap, and it was one off the worst cars ever buildt . Yes the russian and east-german cars were not better, but they were even cheaper than a Morris Marina, so you simply can´t compare ... The Morris Marina - a car that should never had reach the production line ...
YS28863 8 months ago
@YS28863 You are incorrect in your statement that the Marina was a "face lifted Morris Minor" the Marina was a replacement for the "Farina" car range Cambridge, MG Magnette Mk. III, Morris Oxford V, Riley and Wolseley 15/60.z
And yes you can compare East European and Russian cars against a Morris Marina (just as an auto journalist would and still do)
As to the cars production,the Marina remained as the number 3 top seller in the UK during most of the 1970s proving this statement incorrect.
themaneatingchimp 7 months ago
@themaneatingchimp In my country ( Denmark) you could buy many other cars at the same price as a Morris Marina like Ford Escort, Opel Kadett, Toyota Corolla and Datsun 120 Y - cars that were more reliable and much better quality . In Denmark the import off BLMC cars like Morris Mini, Austin Allegro, and Morris Marina stopped early in the 1980´s because off the pure quality and the competion from Japan . In DK you could buy a much better Toyota Starlet for the same price as a Mini 850 in 1980.
YS28863 7 months ago
@YS28863 I cannot speak for the quality of Ford and Opel products in Denmark but in the UK they were on a level with BL of the time,as for the Japanese cars you state,reliability perhaps(the 120Y uses a version of the Austin "A" series engine") but quality never!
Toyota and Datsun were termed as "Jap Crap" in Britian often followed by the term "rust buckets" both companies were known for the exuberant cost of spares.All the European Car makers were caught out by Japanese compotition not just BL
themaneatingchimp 7 months ago
@themaneatingchimp you stated in early comments that ford were crap like vauxhall,but they were holding the 1st & 2nd place iin sales for the 70s,not saying the marina was bad though,but by the time the ital came it was much out of date then in refinements and the ital was hated in the motor trade.i think they suffered very high depreciation from new
TheVx490 4 months ago
@TheVx490 Hi there, yeah quite true the Ital was really one "MARINA" too many but it did sell in pretty good numbers (and made a profit) although long in the tooth by this stage it was priced very competitvely and appealed to a buyer wanting that bit more for their money and not too bothered about image....it was cheap for what you were getting (Lada pitched the same way)
I honestly think most 70's cars are all pretty poor by todays standards,but perhaps Ford were just that bit better hence,
themaneatingchimp 4 months ago
Respond to this video... (cont 2) the reason that both the Cortina and Escort were No1 and No2 in the top sellers list .
And as said a lot of the motoring press hated the Ital (how much of this was just following what was said before them is unsure but re-sale price were fell victim to this)
Strangely for a car so disliked by many, the entire tooling and rights were sold to China to make their own version of the car and even more strangely some were even built.
Thanks for your comments
themaneatingchimp 4 months ago
From what I have read, the problem with the Marina was that BL's predecessor hadn't built a small RWD car since the Morris Minor of 1958 - and that's what they based the suspension of the early seventies Marina on.
If you think that's bad, Australia had a 2.6-litre SIX-CYLINDER Marina on sale - voted by our motoring magazines as "The Car Most Likely To Take A Life".
JBofBrisbane 9 months ago
The marina was only meant as a stop gap and used outdated technology esp in regards to suspension which meant it did not handle as good as similiar vehicles from ford, hillam and vauxhall, also the pre production vehicles were slated by the motoring press for woefull handling, BL promised to fit roll bars on production models on the strength of this the motoring press gave fairly good reviews, however this did not happen and the press feeling conned by BL never forgave them.
volkswin 11 months ago
Anyone who doubts the ability of the Marina to rust very badly should check out "Morris Marina Barn Find" on this site.
paulph12002 11 months ago
The new Morris Marina.... Beauty with brains (left) behind it.
DeLorean4 1 year ago
Love this clip. It crystallizes the beginning of the end oh the British car. They didn't anticipate the huge shift to front wheel drive. They used ancient technology in the motor and suspension. They styled it as if designed by a committee in Communist Russia. It might have worked but it was colossally mediocre. Finally they competed against their own product. Allegro versus Marina. The lunatics ran the asylum.
fordlandau 1 year ago
The Marina couldn't have been that bad, considering 800 000 were sold, nearly as many as the mk2 Cavalier (806 000). I can think of worse cars that have been around. My dad had a Marina for over ten years and rarely let him down and went from sourthern England to Scotland and back several times without any problems. The Marina, I think has some charm to it. I actually quite like the look of the car and much better than the Allegro, which is dreadful. Allegro, what a horrible name for a car.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
"Well Harry its well up to expectations" - What in the name of god was he expecting!
rickerbycourt 1 year ago
@rickerbycourt he was expecting a piano to drop on it :D
Bomchilaka 1 year ago
Ehhh, Id raher have a Chevy Vega.
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
They didn't exactly manage to pull off the 'stylish like a Capri' part did they? Lol. I still like the Marina though.
RPKGameVids 1 year ago
They even made a documentary of the 2nd worst car ever after the Reliant Robin? I actually thought it was a mockumentary or some kind of a Rickroll.
giriisindahouse 1 year ago
Where's the piano?
NorthwesternNL 1 year ago 2
the winner takes it all great britain started the industrial revolution who cares if they make bad cars, even the interna cumbastion engine is not german the ide was already there in britain!!
doromanekia 1 year ago
The man speaking @ 1:45 sounds American or perhaps Canadian! Didn't know they had a bloke from across the pond on their board.
quirpco 1 year ago
"Morris Marina - Beauty with brains behind it"
Yeah, Right..
jakexdk 1 year ago
Oh well, it could be worse than the Marina: The Ital..... Pure horror..
Skoda130 1 year ago
@Skoda130 the ital was rubbish marina was good
MrJezza31 1 year ago
@MrJezza31 The Ital was nothing more than a refurbished Marina.
Skoda130 1 year ago
I have a Marina, it's quite a late example (1978) so the understeer problem isn't too bad. The real problem with the Marina was British Leyland's shoddy workers. Marina's, Allegro's and MGB's all suffered from bad assembly (such as screws hammered into the screw holes). I love the honesty of the Morris Marina fandom, you'll struggle to find any other car enthusiasts who will openly admit that their beloved cars were badly built and who embrace the design flaws instead of trying to hide them.
TashkentFox 2 years ago
I confess to actually liking the Marina when I first saw it. In my defence, I was only 9 and my then-favourite car was the Opel Kadett! The TC coupé isn't a bad shape for its day.
Of course, its engineering, handling and build quality were what was wrong, not the basic shape.
GRAHAMAUS 2 years ago
I had a morris marina 500dl 1300cc light truck. It's been treated badly for over 22 years. It surely wasn't the best car possible(having really bad brakes) but the engine and steering where great for a car that used to cost half as a toyota hilux. It was my first car and i'll never forget it!
MrLILIJOHN 2 years ago
I don't care what people says, i like the Marina! 5 stars for these cool video's :-D Love the felling of 70's here :-D
psykotanks 2 years ago 4
It's interesting to see the men who destroyed the british car industry go to work
rich1701 2 years ago
Not really, it was the unions.
GRAHAMAUS 2 years ago
Monty Pythons flying circus in action within the automotive industry.
helmuthoorn 2 years ago
... and ran by Basil Fawlty!
gentil79 2 years ago
Always make me laugh that British Leyland used the very same engines in the Marina as the,MGB,Mini,Morris I000,A30/35,Austin/Morris(ect) 1100/1300,Spitfire,Oxford,Cambridge and the list goes on,Nissan (Datsun) built both A and B series units under licence their modified A series was the staple power unit for many of it's models Sunny,Cherry,120Y ect (no reliability issues there) and is still in production.
Have you heard anyone say that a MinI,MGB,Morris 1000 or Datsun 120Y is unreliable?
themaneatingchimp 2 years ago
The worst car in the world eh?
So how do you rate these then? FSO,Wartburgh,Daicia,Moskovich,Skoda,and Lada products,the 70's offerings from Fiat,Lancia,and Alfa Romeo,all French cars,Talbot and Simca,Magnifique! Vauxhall,Hillman and the Ford cars from the same period?
Simple the lot were rubbish,and some more than others,the Marina was well on par with all the stuff of the time and although not great was far better than many,oh and the Japanese products of the time,one word four letters RUST.
themaneatingchimp 2 years ago 13
well cars like Wartburg, Moskvitch Lada etc were good in their designated markets, most are still around today.
but most cars in the 70's were rustbyckets :D
BLHeritageFilms 2 years ago 4
@BLHeritageFilms Moskvich is not rubishb it's a classic like morris marina
justas525 6 months ago
@BLHeritageFilms come to Malta and see which is the only surviving car of the 70s! beleive it or not it's the Morris Marina :)
Speedster083 4 days ago
@themaneatingchimp u are a gaylord u know that
MrJezza31 1 year ago
@MrJezza31 And you really are a TRAIN SPOTTER,but you know that don't you! now fuck off and shove your Pot Noodle well and truly up your arse,before someone tells your mums neighbors you're on the child sex offenders register.
PS and learn to spell you NONCE
themaneatingchimp 1 year ago
@themaneatingchimp actuelly i am not on the sex offenders list but i think u are defienetly now get some friends and whats wrong with liking railways and trains so fuck off or i will come round your house and kick your arse so hars you wont be able to dump for a week!
MrJezza31 1 year ago
@MrJezza31 Yeah course you will,GFPO a empty threat from a fucking TRAIN SPOTTER,that's as frighting as a hit squad from the Girl Guides turning up,hasn't got the same ring to it as the Yardies coming for you has it?
Well you can always introduce yourself to me at a MMOC or Marina Ecosse event,oh hang on you'll not need to i'll just look for the cunt in the orange Kagool and bobble hat.
Oh look it's a "DELTIC".... fuck i've shot my load.
themaneatingchimp 1 year ago
@MrJezza31 Once again "mummy's boy" read my comments correctly,before you show yourself up by stating a load off bollocks,i defend the Marina you retarded twat,and do not as you inaccurately state attack them,what a sack of TRAIN SPOTTER shit your are,and a fucking NONCE too and if you do indeed have a Marina i'm sure we'll meet up and you can carry you empty knife threat out in person.
Go back to playing with your train set,you sad fucker!
themaneatingchimp 1 year ago
@themaneatingchimp i am actually a member of the marina eccouse but i think you should go back yourself to being a little girl guide this is now sounding like rasicam against train apotters now i do like trains but i am not as the defanition goes a train spotter i do film trains but i am not one of those people who stands on the edge of aplatform with a little pork pie and a little book i think you are very abusive 1 i am not a sodding cunt ok 2 i am actuelly sorry as i was in a mood so sorry
MrJezza31 1 year ago
@MrJezza31 Are you really a member of Morris Marina & Ital Ecosse? i think not you are a lying bastard as well as thick cunt,i have read the badly worded private message you have sent me,and shall do you the great favour of not divulging the contents (even though you deserve it) your immaturity is now apparent and makes perfect sense,you lame attempt at an apology has spared you that!
Remember who started this,YOU! i have never swore or been abusive unless the other person started it first.
themaneatingchimp 1 year ago
@themaneatingchimp do you actuelly think i enjoy putting lame inslts against people i dont think so no so can we plese reflect that i was in a bad mood that day a really bad mood and i diddnt mean anything against you i just ment that morris marinas are brilliant and evryone should know that ok no offence ok
MrJezza31 1 year ago
@themaneatingchimp I know one worst. The Ford Pinto!
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
@Motorfordtoyota I'll take your word on that,we didn't get many imported in to the UK,the main thing i know about them is the legendary fuel tank stories,and wasn't there even a parody of this in the TV series Police Squad?
themaneatingchimp 1 year ago
@themaneatingchimp , but BL produced consistently bad cars. Not just Morris Marina, but Austin, Triumph, Rover, Jaguar...
mtpylkka11 6 months ago
@mtpylkka11 Yet were they any worse than the products from the other car manufactures of the time? Cars from the 70's are by todays standards mostly poor the're very few cars from that period that stand out.
French cars= poor reliability/ bad build quality ,Italian cars=poor reliability/rust,rust and more rust,German cars=slightly better reliability,build quality but more expensive,Scandinavin cars=see German,Ford= on a par with BL,Vauxhall= see Ford but add extra rusting,Japanese cars=RUST!
themaneatingchimp 6 months ago 6
@themaneatingchimp My uncle is still an AA patrolman and i've asked him more than once which were the worst cars form that time,and he always says Fords in winter [non-starters] then anything Italian and after that the French stuff [Citroen being the far worst of them] the everything else pretty much the same.
He doesn't rate the Japanese cars that highly either,overrated with excessive spares prices and a waiting list to get them,three weeks to get Mazda oil pump,two weeks to get a water pump.
lynnissohot 6 months ago 4
@themaneatingchimp Moskvich is not rubishb it's a classic like morris marina
justas525 6 months ago
@justas525 The Marina is not a classic neither is the Moskovich the overused word "CLASSIC" is applied to everything as soon as it gets to 25 years old.
If you had read my post correctly you would see i class all the vehicles stated from the 70's as rubbish cars from then are mosly poor by todays standards.
I was stationed in the GDR in the late 80's and without doubt the drivers of Moskovich cars dispised them but had to tollorate this because there was almost no other automotive alternative
themaneatingchimp 6 months ago 3
@themaneatingchimp Now in 2011 those cars are really classics. In GDR at the time were much more horrible cars like Trabant and Wartburg, Zaporozec, Lada.
justas525 6 months ago
@justas525 Thanks for your reply but i'm not swayed by the passage of time making things a "CLASSIC" i love Marina's and all BL/ARG products (up to the very end) and own both a Marina and a Maxi but to deem them as classic cars just doesn't cut it with me.
If we use the 25 year rule as a general guide to determine classic car status cars ws have the very real and distinct possibility that the Reliant Robin and even the Sinclair C5 are indeed classics......well perhaps they just might be.
themaneatingchimp 6 months ago
@themaneatingchimp Thanks i think all BL products were good and cool.
justas525 6 months ago
@justas525 Well said that man!
themaneatingchimp 6 months ago
the morris marina is simpley the worst car in the whole world and im not the only one who thinks that
EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME 2 years ago
2:26 These guys who killed the British Motor Industries, with a wrong choices and bad projects. How the Marina could compete against Ford Cortina/Escort MK II and Hillman Hunter/Avenger, all with better quality?
Why not used the project ADO 68/28, with a Micheloti design? is more beautiful....
Well: incompetent administration + red workers+lack of effective government intervention=death..unfortunately
officialraf 2 years ago
As it was, the Marina was really a rehash of old BMC components in a new bodyshell - By contrast, the Hillman Avenger (for how conventional the car's specifications were) was actually a clean-sheet design, right down to the engine and platform...
joh2 2 years ago
they wasted the budget...
Design quality of the engine was bad.
The build quality was even wors.
The body was horrible in it's design + I had the habbit of disintegrating during driving the car.
Equipment?
You would had to pay extra for a heater that would break down within the first year.
And just look how uggly it is!
Acutaly, the only thing adorable on this car, are the door handles...
FrightfulAccountant 2 years ago
An interesting watch - cheers for uploading. I won't deny, I think the Marina was the worst car made in the UK, but still interesting to watch stuff like this.
Genius83 2 years ago
a piece of crap, finished up ital.
unigateman 2 years ago
I know what you mean about customer service. my mum bought a 1983 Metro 1.3 HLE and within 14months the front wings started rusting along the tops, she took it back expecting to get it sorted under the 6 year anticorrosion warranty and they said that in oder to qualify you needed to get the car annually inspected by them (at my mums expense!), she wasnt told that when she bought the car so she obviously didnt... the car rotted so bad that it was scrapped when it was only 8 years old!!!
mickeymoose76 2 years ago
PMSL.. "Come up with style that is better than Capri" at 03:44 The MK1 Ford Capri was georgous, This car looks like a garden Shed!! There problemwas lack of customer service once you had bought the car. My dad bought a brand new Marina in 1973, It had rust in the wheel arches and rust bubbles when it was 16 MONTHS old. He took it back to the BL Dealer, They said.... NOT OUR PROBLEM, The warranty is only 1 Year. I am shocked they survived until 2005 wih that attitude!
matsui2001 3 years ago