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  • So what, spay and neuter your kids because they might not want their kids? While I see what they're getting at, there are more elegant ways of saying it

  • stupid

  • For girls like Jamie Lynn Spears?

    WTH?

  • Hmm I love how they're saying to treat animals like humans and they release this. You must spay and neuter all your pets. Yep then we should castrate all our teenagers. Yep makes perfect sense.

  • "My little girls gonna get some!" HAHHA

  • Ahaha;

    I love this! (:

  • This is why guys go gay, because commercials like this scare girls from having sex. Thats why gays reportedly have 3x's as much sex as straight couples. Fuck you Peta!! we want to fuck whores like this. This is my roommates account, but he's a blabbering christian so you'd probably expect something gay like "stop saying that" or "God loves animals too". I fuckin hate dogs they stole my icecream as a kid. I like cats but that doesnt mean im a beastial like Peta. Hey give me a thumbs down ass!

  • @pokemonsavage please stop using my accounr Bernard!

  • @pokemonsavage LOL!

  • Spaying and Neutering seems to go against Peta ethical treament for animals but then again they do kill 1/3 of the animals they take in. So saying that might be to loosen there numbers.

  • @slicingwater If it is done with anaesthetic etc it is best. And it is MUCH better than having too many animals and having them starved.

    In the end it is the best :)

  • In your opinion.

  • @slicingwater Uhm, it is obvious that not having the babies is better than having all these animals homeless and starving to death.

  • fuck peta! watch the vids on my favs to see the true side of PETA!

  • I freaking LOVE this ad. XD lol

  • that was............wired.....

  • This is so true. People need to spay and neuter their pets. People aren't disposable, and neither are pets. Go PETA!

  • Lol!

  • @Summer0234 Whilst pets need spaying and neutering, yes, eventually, you will run out of pet animals if everyone did it. A middle ground needs to be found

  • sooooo true. they're not saying that u should spay and neuter people they're saying producing animals should be like producing babies. they're not disposable

  • Thats Jamie Singler or something like that, lol she played the daughter in the Sopranos, lol not Jamie Spears

  • People

    Eating

    Tasty

    Animals

    wow these guys are sick. the holocaust thing was worse though...

  • hmmm. People Eating Tasty Animals? You're such a immature child.

  • Seriously: "People Eat Tasty Animals"? Wow, people are so low. Yes, I'm a teen PETA activist. But what people don't know is that we aren't hippies and yell at meat eaters.

    I ignore the people at my school who mock my vegetarianism. I influence others to recycle more often. Hell, I even got this girl to consider being vegetarian...yet i didn't FORCE her.

    If a vegetarian/vegan doesn't mock you, why do you mock us?

    Think again before you say: "People Eating Tasty Animals" in our faces.

  • agreed. personally, i think peta is stupid. good idea, horrible execution.

  • I hate to say it but people do that because you are the smaller group. Just like gays and tree huggers. If meat eaters were a small group and the world was full of vegans, it'd be the other way around. It's true.

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  • @pokemonsavage Ew Wtf you fag. I'm a vegetarian and I dispise christians. Religious people are big faggy douches and should die!

  • @lemonwonder lol a liberal using fag as a insult, so ironic

  • Neutering is freaking barbaric. I would NEVER NEUTER A PET!!!!!

  • @aragorn767 What about a vasectomy, is that barbaric? No, I think not. If you can't control a pussycat, your a dick who is not in control...

  • the point of this video is to spay and neuter your pets because if you dont, the animals that nobody takes care of or wants are thrown in the streets or crowded in animal shelters. If you neuter your pets than your helping control the animal population, which is a good thing in the long run.

  • lol this video is a joke and petas a bunch of hypocrites. i get the point of it but get real... animals r different than ppl. ppl abandon pets all the time and this will continue.

    People Eat Tasty Animals

  • god forbid we take that speech to africa

  • lol

  • umm isnt this the wrong advice to give to your child the parents should say something like dont have sex

  • Not until they are really ready

  • Someone does not understand the concept of irony.

  • FUCK YOU SICK BABSTARDS you dont know what you are saying i used to volunteer for spca and it was SICK!!! hundreds of cats locked in cages day and night there was jst too many very few people every came in to adopt and even fewer actually did peta is the sole organization working to stop animal testing and have already stopped two of the five main forms and frankly there are far worse things than death

  • lol

  • This commerical is pretty neat,I don't see anything wrong with it..Other than it is made by Peta.

  • Wow. Is all I have to say right now.

  • Peta suck.... this is ridiculous

  • Peta is fucking dumb, comparing humans and animals in this context is fucking retarded. Every member of Peta needs to lead by example and get themselves all fixed, then we don't need to tolerate there idiocy for another fucking generation

  • PETA needs to die.

  • Quite right,

    no, acctually, VERY right.

  • haha ^^

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  • you know,if all the pets in the world were fixed, we wouldn't have any more animals. And is it really humane to remove a dog or cat's balls or oviaries? I don't think so, some of P.e.t.a's commericals may be amusing,but peta sucks, and i love animals so :P

  • Clearly not ALL animals, but is it really fair that millions of animals, puppys kittens everything, will be killed because people like you won't just get your pet/pets fixed?

  • I do not breed my pets thank you very much.AND that is bad,but why can people do the exact same thing without any reprocussion?hm?

  • I think humans should be fixed too, I think most of our population needs to go *POOF*

    my friend didn't "breed" her pets either but it didn't stop her cat from going and getting knocked up, it was so hard to find homes for those kittens...

  • Well, I am not in charge of this. I am 14 almost 15, it's my mom's problems not mine. I am not here to argue.

  • Maybe then you should stand up and take some fucking responsibility you spoiled baby. "14 almost 15". I had my own fucking cat, dog, and 2 horses by that age--each one I loved with all my heart and gave the attention, freedom, and love that it needed. Guess who fucking paid for the vet bills... Me. Guess who stopped eating meat and put her foot down for her own beliefs... me. Fuck you, you inactive, immoral little bitch.

  • I don't live the same way you do and do not have all these pets, I have my own beliefs,how does that make me an inactive,immoral little bitch? You don't know a damn thing about me so don't be attacking me lady.

  • So...is PETA saying humans should be neutered too?

  • its a metaphor. so no, peta is not saying humans should be neutered.

  • I don't think that's what they meant...

    but there ARE a few people that need to be fixed

    *COUGHHannahmontanaCOUGH*

  • animals are not equal to humans. get your heads out of the sand. true hunters are the best kind of conservationist; better a quick death than death by cars or starvation by overpopulation, plus you know how and where the meat was made, so no additives and such.

  • anybody have any Pros and Cons for this commercial?

  • WHAT DA HELL?! o_O'

    i thought they wanted animals to populate and exist, now they don't want animals fucking anymore??? o_O'

    what da hell is PETA smoking?! -_-'

  • ditto on that one.. soon enough the environment will kill us all unless we use hybrid cars and cut down on electricity and we all become vegetarians! then no animals will die and we will have an ever growing society!!! :P

  • That's the first thing I thought of when I saw this. This is so wrong.

  • Peta doesn't like domesticated animals. Why else would they "free" domesticated formerly white rabbits into the wild to get killed,or murder thousands of dogs and cats in secret?

  • Someone told me that they put some of their animals down because they have too many ;_;, that's not right, ;_;

  • Wrong. They put over 90 percent of their animals down,perfectly healthy animals,for no reason. They say it's better to euthanize them,if they don't have homes..

  • it's not better,they should be given to people or just free themsomewhere rather than harm them for that matter,what is wrong with peta!?

  • They're a psychotic group of animal extremists who don't do anything good for animals,or humans(well,humans are animals but..).

    They should leave these sorts of things for the humane societies,spca's,wspa and other groups who actually do good to the animals.

  • LMFAO. I love this. xD Best PETA Commercial ever. But I still hate their hypocrisy.

  • This is what i wll tell my daughter

  • hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahahahahahahaha.....

    " my little gurl's gonna get some. " hahahahaha...

  • "my little girls gonna get some"

  • I understand & support animal rights & what PETA *wants* to stand for but I dont think attacking people with paint or ads get the message across.

    I admit there are good points to being vegetarian/vegan but I dont like how one sided they are on the issue. What about people like me who are Anemic & need meat for iron? It's easier to absorb it from meat than greens & pills are tricky to take. I'm not a meat & potatoes person but everything in moderation. They should play fair & show ALL sides.

  • Sorry, but thats not how anything in this world works.

  • why should animals have to be killed? would you be saying play fair and show all sides about a murderer or rapist? i dont think so people skin animals alive! now if someone was skinning a person alive EVERYONE would care but not when its an animal they do bad things to animals because they don't care and if we didn't no one would, i agree that violence and throwing paint on people isnt the way to go but sometimes it takes that for people to listen.

  • @ShinbiBelldandy I think that is a pretty big myth never seen it in 10 years as a vegan, a friend and I have given out 750,000 booklets by working out asses off as volunteers the last 5 years for groups like Vegan Outreach that educate, yet the gimmicks get more publicity. FYI some top body builders, ufc fighters, olympians and athletes are vegan, we have no excuse. VeganHealth (dot) org for a Dietician, we can get all we need in veg foods.

  • Damn I know I shouldn't have had that talk with my dog. Does this mean we should spay and neuter out teens?

  • if kids saw this they would probbly do this. they'er FUCKERS.

  • Lol, that was jokes!

  • I think this is hilarious!

  • maybe I should go kill a cat right now....peta will go to any means...offensive "shocking" ads..or using celebs...or using women like pieces of meat...peta even gives money to people who fire bomb buildings....I'm sick of peta

  • I know. I don't even think they accomplish much either. They're just attention whores. Either that or they are seriously mental about animals. They're always complaining about how animals would never choose to be food, clothing, or show animals. Who knows? Maybe cows enjoy becoming burgers and steaks for us.

  • Have you seen the "Meet your Meet" video?

    Because when the cow started "mooing" in pain because its legs broke, it didn't seem it was too enthusiastic about being food.

  • fuck peta comparing ppl with animals

  • Right on, animals should not be compared to people.  Companion animals are faithful, devoted and trusting, unlike humans who are more like a disease on this planet. So dont fuck peta, fuck peter. Idiot.

  • Google "The truth about PETA". Then try supporting an animal rescue shelter that doesn't, y'know, kill its animals.

  • vets also kill millions of animals at shelters.

  • But vets don't claim not to.

  • Neither do PETA!

  • @jtking2504 vet do it when animals are fatally injured.

  • Are you using that allegation as proof that people should dislike PETA?

    I mean, whenever a priest or any kind of religious authority screws up (rapes a child, has sex, takes money from the church) everyone is like "Oh well, the religion is good, we can't blame them for having a human who made a mistake". But that doesn't happen with PETA right? If someone within PETA does something bad everyone goes against PETA...bullshit! And even if it was true, in no way does it justify animal cruelty.

  • I am not supportive in the slightest of animal cruelty. I simply believe that if you're going to support an organization, you shouldn't just jump onboard with the loudest of them. Do your research.

    Not to mention, it's not simply a "select few" that screw up in PETA. Just to cite a few examples:

  • "According to government documents, PETA employees have killed more than 19,200 dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens since 1998. This behavior continues despite PETAs moralizing about the unethical treatment of animals by farmers, scientists, restaurant owners, circuses, hunters, fishermen, zookeepers, and countless other Americans."

  • "PETA puts to death over 90 percent of the animals it accepts from members of the public who expect the group to make a reasonable attempt to find them adoptive homes. PETA holds absolutely no open-adoption shelter hours at its Norfolk, VA headquarters, choosing instead to spend part of its $32 million annual income on a contract with a crematory service to periodically empty hundreds of animal bodies from its large walk-in freezer."

  • "PETAs president has said that even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it. And PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, solely because they support animal-based research aimed at curing life-threatening diseases... PETA helped to start and manage a quasi-medical front group ... to attack medical research head-on."

  • I'm not trying to deny that. But we could also cite millions of pederatic priests, millions of corrupted politicians, etc. It's not the people that matter, what matters is what they're intentions are. And PETA has a lot of ethics on their intentions, that's why I like them.

    I became a vegetarian on my own free will, I don't use animal skin on my own free will.

  • Okay, first of all, there are rotten humans everywhere. And you're right, the lives of the majority should not be judged by the mistakes and perversions of the minority.

    Again, however, it is not the select few actions of a few members of PETA that I'm concerned with. It's the entirety of the organization. The way they conduct their business (and make no mistake, PETA is a business) is ethically unsound and deceitful. On top of that, they expect their supporters to shell out money while ...

  • ... they take advantage of their kindness and good will. The fact that PETA is willing, as an entire organization, to screw over their members like that - and, not to mention, try their hardest to make the rest of the world feel guilty for crimes they themselves commit - is not an orgnaization worthy of the attention in garners. Which is why I am so much more willing to support a shelter where I know the animals aren't being discarded with like so much trash.

  • Well maybe you're right, but I support the organization's values, which is what (in my opinion) really matters, to be honest I don't care much about the people inside PETA. I do try to tell people to go vegetarian, to stop using animal skin.

    But that's because of a value I uphold. But I understand where you're coming from :s there's some BAD people.

  • animals bodys are different form humans they dont react the same way to drugs and stuff so animal testing is a waste of time and money, not to mention all the animals that are killed for this "research"

  • I also heard that the President of PETA uses insulin to stay alive. Insulin came from animal research. I love animals and think the we have a whole lot to change in the way we treat them. PETA's ways do not help the cause in the long run. I used to support them. Now I know how my money is spent and there is now way I will support the BS. There are organizations that are far more transparent than PETA and will help animals directly in stead of these whack jobs.

  • Amen!

  • All of these, plus citations and more links, can be found by googling "Peta Hates Animals".

  • i just got out of the shower and im still naked xD 2

  • I refuse to respect a charter like PETA.

    Almost all of them are intolerant, they refuse to listen to reason, and last but not least; all you PETA freaks are insane.

  • spaying/neutering your animals saves lives.

  • Im sorry but i found this funny..

    But good kind of funny.

  • Unless you want and can care for allot of animals, than you should get your pets neutered. And if you're a breeder, keep the animals appart unless you can be sure you have a good place to put them after birth, and/or can find people to buy them.

  • The problem with PeTA is they're radicals. Radicals are always wrong, no matter the flag they choose to carry.

    And, yes, I understand what a satire is, but the analogy is still ridiculous.

  • Peta pisses me off sometimes.

  • Same here

  • haha niceee.

    but i agree animals cant really learn about abstinence

    its just like putting them on a leash when walking them.

    they cant understand not to do something like humans.

    so its not torture but its safer for them to be spayed/neuter.

    end of story.

    i mean come on if bob from price is right says it

    it can not be tortureee. duhh. :))

  • typical sick peat comparing humans to animals. you cant and SHOULDNT spay or neutur your child.

  • I don't think you understand the message of the video.

  • you people are morons! just fix your pets and stop being ignorant.

  • Agreed.

  • Funny that peta is against animal cruelty, but has no problem in telling you to castrate your pets...

  • And, by the way. I have a Golden Retriever which is not spayed, but I don't take it around all the time to "get some". Stupid ad.

  • Nature has a knack for always finding a way. People may not take their animals around to "get some" but if the animal is in heat, it will do anything it can to ...say (as an example) ..dig a hole under the fence to get at that other dog next door. Nothing wrong with spaying and neutering. The animals also tend to be happier, live longer, and have less health problems if they are fixed.

  • Oh horseshit. My dog is not altered and will never be due to health problems that would make it life threatening. She's not left alone to "dig out" or do anything like that. And I suggest you check your facts. Spaying and neutering reduces the risks of SOME cancers while INCREASING the risks of others. My dog is quite happy, and any of her health issues are not related to being intact.

  • I don't see where I said fixing your pet negates "all" possible health problems. I also don't know your dog. I made a general statement that has hundreds of medical studies to back it up: On average, altered animals have fewer health problems. This means most but not all. Can an intact one live a long happy life with little to no health problems? Sure. However the positives of altering far outweigh the negatives.

  • This is sick

    Stop drawing parallels between humans and other animals, this only works in Disney

  • Yeah, there's nothing says ethical treatment like cuttin' off some balls.

  • The thing is - it's difficult to convince your housecat to pull a rubber hat over his Johnson.

    It's more ethical to do that, than to have a bunch of strays roaming about fucking up the eco system and spreading diseases while rummaging through garbage bags on pickup night.

  • They don't exactly cut their balls off, though. (And humans get vasectomies/hysterectomies all the time.)

  • There is a difference between the two. A vasectomy is just the cutting or tying of the seminal vesicle. Neutering the the actual removal of the testicle. As well, spaying and hysterectomies are different. A hysterectomy is just the removal of the uterus but they leave the ovaries. Spaying gets rid of it all. After humans get "fixed" we are still able to produce the hormones, pets can't. And yes they do cut the balls off. I know, because I have taken part in castrating cattle. Not fun.

  • And my previous comment was just sarcasm, just to let you know. I do understand why it is necessary to have your pets fixed. Although, I thought that PeTA didn't believe in pets...

  • Yeah, and its so ethical to let your animals have lots of babies, then the babies get killed. =/

  • I just ate a burger!

  • you cant compare animals to humans....

  • I agree. The animals follow the evolutionary law of 'survival of the fittest'. Humans don't. And infact we even help other animals skip that rule too. Like....ummmmmm....domesticate­d cats and dogs?

  • and we were somewhat subject to that NATURAL SELECTION... but we had the capabilities to think and invent and we made things that gave us an edge over animals. Now we are at the top with technology that make up for our weakness

  • Gotts-Come on now. You say we are subject to natural selection? If that were true we'd have no blind, deaf, elderly, retarded, diabetic, physically handicapped, or even those with severe allergies subject to anaphylactic shock. Sounds cruel eh? But that's what nature is. We have mothers on welfare popping out 6 kids cause they want the extra income...natural? We have people living over 90 years when they offer NO benefit to genetic lineage. I know...how crass, barbaric and disgusting. But true.

  • you know who Eric Harris was? Well you just prooved his point. He believed that we should stop fighting the natural selection and let it continue. The weak die the strong live... We are subject to it, we are just cabable of overcomming it through knowledge and technology

  • "we are just cabable of overcomming it through knowledge and technology" Right...exactly my point. Our growth rate is unnatural. That is why this earth is being so overwhelmed by human impacts. It'll never stop until we do. I'd give us 250 years at the most. Then our J-curve population rate will crash as all other similar population booms have done. Oh some people will surivive. Homo Sapiens will always be around. But somewhere down the line...wait..hey...wasn't this about prego dogs & cats?ha!

  • brb eating steaks

  • I'm just gonna keep eating ma chicken. B)

  • I am not a fan of PETA due to their affiliation with Playboy and sexist campaigns, but I appreciate most of their messages, including this one.

  • Im proud to say im a member of People for the Eating of Tasty Animals!

  • You guys are so fucking ignorant! PETA is the worst kind of cult out there! Fuck PETA!

  • mom says, my litte girl gunna get some.

  • fuck yea let get it done

  • Thanks for promoting teen pregnancy, PETA!

  • What is "imbosiles"?

  • i think this is hilarious and for those of u taking it up the butt just get over it....."my lil girls gonna get some'" great x)

  • PETA is making a point so stop saying idiotic things you imbosiles. Please

  • except for critterguy. very elaborate.

  • Wow, the last seven or so people who have posted comments here have to be the dumbest individuals on the face of this planet. Never have I seen such a collection of bad grammar usage, inane ideas and just plain ignorance in one place. Forget the belief system. If there's a hell, you are all destined to go.

  • wow..

  • God PETA are so retarded, several breeds of dog are endangered so they'd rather they die out? It's not as if domesticated pets are running rampant in developed countries, plus homes are usually found for pet offspring, so there's no need to spay and neuter ALL pets. Plus there's no sense in equating it to teen pregnancy for christ's sake...I guess PETA are fed up with disposing all the animals they take in and gas instead of finding homes for. Hypocritical, money-grubbbing terrorist fools!

  • Saucy- No need to worry about losing a 'breed' of dog, we'll just create another one. Don't forget that all domesticated dogs are the same species "canis familiaris". So there is NO need of them going extinct. I'm more worried about the native animals that are becoming endangered due to their numbers being decimated by domestic cats/dogs that are allowed to run wild. That's why I'm in favor of controlling pet populations. The commercial is just making a point,and it does..and it's funny too!

  • So if a race of people were dying out, it's ok because we can just 'make more?' I'm aware of the domestication and breeding history of dogs, that doesn't give a misguided terrorist organisation the right to judge pet owners if they want to breed their pets. Protecting native wild animals won't be stopped by controlling pet populations by spaying and neutering alone, you'd have to get rid of all domesticated animals. The commercial is epic fail and the money would be better spent.

  • There is no such thing as a 'race' of people, we're all 'homo sapiens'.Just different cultures. And they have been going extinct since the dawn of modern man(aztecs, vikings, moai). You may miss the point of the clip. When unwanted pets are born they are bound to suffer and have a poor quality of life (being killed and/or released into the wild). PETA wants people to help stop the production of these unwanted babies. Fewer unwanted pets=less suffering. Makes sense to me and the clip has impact.

  • you're a stupid tree hugging fagot. go fuck a dog then bitch.

  • And you're a vulgar piece of shit. If it weren't for tree huggers like us, the world would be a husk. Oceans decimated by unchecked oil spills and drilling, entire species of whale, fish, etc extinct as a result of, no national parks to display the natural beauty of our world, no trees, rampant dog fighting, excessive animal abuse, and I could just go on for hours and hours but you're too damn shallow to see beyond your own dick.

  • I like that first sentence, homo. You really get your point across when you contradict yourself in a half second flat, homo. And I could give a shit less about extinct whales, fish, and other animals, homo. And I'm sure you have lots to do with the preservation of national parks too, homo. Obviously writing crap on the internet is making a big difference in the world, huh homo? And dog fighting is badass, homo. BTW I have a nice dick... if you saw it you'd understand, homo.

  • I think Mexicans already believe this...I see all the time at the grocery-store Mexicans leading around a lowbudget version of the Army of 12 Monkeys...The problem is, these untrained monkeys keep knocking merchandise off the shelves, contaminating it, and making it unsalable, thereby raising the price of food and goods for legitimate consumers.

    As to those who bring God into it, the Bible ALSO says to make sure you're able to SUPPORT your family. Lots of stories about responsibility there!

  • "my little girls gonna get some!"

  • Its kinda weird how this comerical brought up God...but yeah. As far as not valueing life...thats not true. any man or woman can value life without the concept of God. Many people without the knowledge of God live very happy lives. Religion is an escape from dealing with mortal problems. Dont get me wrong there has to be something out there right? It just seems like christians use the same techniques as PETA...forcing his name through unwanted propaganda and even deaths (in the past)

  • Hahaha.Well that's a generalizing and dumb remark about religion.

  • Not really. ebg83 is right. Religion is simply a way to brew up answers for questions we have yet to find an answers for. While science is in the constant process of finding those answers, or producing rational, logical theories based on solid eveidence, some people still look for the 'easy way out'. That's where religions come into play!

    Oh, ebg83, look back about a dozen posts you'll see how god managed to slide into the conversation. I agree it got way of topic, but ahhh...that happens!

  • well that's generelizing too. I, myself am a practicing christian. I love dark gothic stuff and I hate stupid narrow minded christians. I don'T velieve in all the crap the bible sais. COZ I HAVE I MIND OF MY OWN. but still believe in God. from the outside it may look like we follow everything preachers say but hell no. there are some preachers who could burn in hell (though I don't believe in hell or satan). so no, I religious and I don't look for the easy way out. and I'm sure their are others

  • Hellsink- Fair enough. Those who are more orthodox/extremist in regards to their religious beliefs can be very frustrating and damaging to the continuation of tolerance and reason within a society.

    But I guess the big question (you ask)is: Is there a god, a 'higher power' out there?

    You say yes...I say no. Well, I believe in god like I believe in the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot. It's a cool concept, but with the lack of ANY solid evidence...hey, I'd bet on the existence of UFO's before god.

  • I have got evidance from God that he exists.

    It's all about belief. If you don't wanna believe in something, it lightly you will never see the thing you disbelieve. If you give it a go, it's lightly (not for sure) but lightly that you will see him/her.

  • sorry to gon on, but these are the people that I'm talking about exactly. "Mistakenvixen ".

    narrow minded stupid people.

  • Narrow minded stupid people? Right...You can NOT call yourself a christian and only believe in part of the bible..

  • yeah. u are right. that was an old comment. I don't like to categotize my good self. I believe in God. that's all :)

  • "You're either hot or cold". Just because you believe in God doesn't mean your a true Christian. If you don't believe in all of the bible you can't call yourself a christian.

  • Actually Mistakev hit it on the head. Either you believe in a higher power...or not. No real grey area there. Thus far man has NO evidence for it's existence...that is why all religions are based on faith,not fact. Oddly enough,if we DID acquire proof in a god then one's belief would be based on fact and faith would have no place in religion. And atheism would be extinct! Because that's all we need to believe in a god...good, hard, reliable evidence. For religions sake I hope it's never found!

  • I really don't give a flying fuck what you call me. I know inside God is what I believe in. that's more important to me, than learning the bible by heart.

    and life is so much more then just saying:

    hot or colt. nothing is black and white.

  • 1. Alright ticka and infrom-

    "the concept of man ruling the earth without God baffles me"

    - An argument of personal incredulity is a moot point. Just because you can't imagine not having a god watching over us doesn't make it true. Nor is it a new concept. For years man has filled his holes of ignorance with "A god did it!". It's easy, simple, but also lazy and exposes your acceptance of ignorance. Religion teaches us it's ok to NOT understand the world. Science explains how amazing it is!

  • 2- Are you guys really satisfied doing everything for some fictional character? OK...I know people need to find their place, peace, and comfort. But that's just it, I can't accept a cop-out like 'Cause God said so.' That's just too easy. No I want the REAL answers, stuff I can see, feel, that is based on reason, logic and evidence. And you know, that knowledge fascinates to no end. I love all life! To quote Douglas Adams:"I'll take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance anyday."

  • 3. Finally...needless to say we're getting WAY off topic here. But I've liked chatting with you two. Neither has degraded to name calling or insults or "God is great, God is good...so shut up." Haha! Yes...I've heard that before. Anyway...do either of you know a better venue to discuss this? I'm good to debate some more. Frustrating at times due to the inability to prove you wrong (that's what is wonderful about faith, ignore the facts and you're never wrong!)But I'm good to go! Let me know.

  • thecritterguy, I quote "I ask you this:Name one good,virtuous,or beneficial action or deed that has been done by a religious person that has not been done by atheist. just one"

    I can name one, beleiving in God and his commandments. Atheists know no God so your virtuous ways are bringing satisfaction to the self , rather than living virtuous, and prasing God, for His satifaction.

  • thecritterguy, you asked,

    1) How many have died in the name of 'God'?

    So many can't count, even Jesus. because, those fighting to keep God non existent were the unbeleivers so, they killed the follwers of Jesus.

    2) I don't believe in God so I don't value life?

    you can't value life, you don't value yours enough to know God exist. so it's impossible to value any other life.