The devil is losing and at the end will be judged for all the crimes. Live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and deception of devil. Jesus Christ is the savior, love and hope.
You do know that Jacques pictures are conceptual right?
4:06 you really cherry picked the quote right there, have you bothered to watch the documentary before slamming it? Theres a part in there talks about the monetary system creating virtual scarcity.
@Willaras what about the Underwater cities , the Robots and all the BS shit ?? do you realize that Jakes fresco's models are pure rubish propaganda and manipulation ?
The USA is the leading food producer on the planet and the winner of most 0f the Noble prizes for scientific breakthroughs in the last century without which much of the human race would have been herded into Nazi cyanide gas showers or been starved to death on ineptly micromanaged collective farms by now, Europeans who make social parasite charges against Americans don't have anywhere near our record of helping the human race survive. We're the goose with the golden eggs. Don't try cooking us.
The best odds we have right now for long term human survival is to work on developing cybernetic virtual realities fhe majority of the human race can live and work in using less energy than we need in our denser natural reality. That path lets us conserve existing resources without sacrificing human brainpower needed to discover or create new resources unlike the population reduction idea so popular with European elites guilty of murdering millions in Dachaus and Gulags to steal resources.
Anybody talking about "overpopulation" is not out to help you. I don't notice any of them ever volunteering to be part of the population that gets reduced, What they want is to kill off other people so they have more natural resources for themself. It is not possible to save the human race from running out of resources eventually no matter how much they're conserved. We need new technology and scientific discoveries to survive which we don't get by reducing the number of human brains.
@ducknecksausage you prove yourself a fool by subscribing to the idea we are over populated when you have not the first clue if there is any truth to it & all you are doing is relaying dangerous wild assumptions
TZM =/= Utopia or any other "perfect" global system
People, like the creator of this film who distort the ideas of TZM to fit their incendiary claims of a global conspiracy and "anti-patriotic" agenda are tools of the corrupt system currently in place and actually tend to be religious, usually Christian, promoting their OWN agenda of some desired Armageddon and Christian THEOCRACY controlled primarily by extremists like Dominionists/New Apostolic Reformation Movement cultists.
OMG! At 04:21 this guy/gall sais, maybe didn't intended to, but non the less did: "They want to take a rubish place and make it nice and comfortable! They are evil!" and "They forgot to put CGI people on a CGI town, therefore they're evil!"
@ResistenciaHumana I see what you mean and I think many people are confused by this, a RBE wont have David Cameron and Obama bombing people with oil.
The RBE discused in Zeitgeist isnt only a global resource based economy founded on proven science but also based on a philisophy that we are all one and everyone must live in peace and be risen to their highest potential.
Not have everyone killed and the rest thrown in prison cities or other hollywood inspired ideas.
the population could be stinted in a few years if we stopped all this irresponsible reproduction! do you have a better idea than a resource based economy? do you like the current state of affairs? that's what i thought, if your not talking alternatives then we don't want to hear your hate propaganda. it's not productive
full stupidness,of course-peoplehave to unite,but with no banks,politicians,institutions,or religious differences and seperations,no-money,but also-no rfid chips,no control ,from any bank,reach corporations,or elite,but freedom,and unite world,no dictatorship,no comunism,capitalism,or some "isme",freedom-real freedom that we never knew before...-the real freedom is to make what you want-with no bothering the other,with no disrespect his rights,this is freedom and democracy
To all the paranoid delusionists, the worst is happening 'NOW' this is the reason why so many ppl are waking up, enoughs enough. The "elites" you speak of , are nothing more then over stuffed baisd turkeys. Is this really whom your afriad?
seriously.... folks will turn anything into a conspiracy theory.. Now. to all these folks who passionately speak out of their as*... opinion... Where is the evidence.. ? How were u able to put this all together? I would not be surprised if it was a bunch of college students on drugs, who did a lil too much one day...
Some people do; others only complain their entire lives.
well if these people didn't exist we would have changed many years ago ...but they are, why don't you just go your place called "heaven" and leave our place alone...
Earth is rich in resources, that is not something to worry for. What we have to work thorughly is to educate every human being to further progress. Educate them with facts, not myths.
do not need a big city to carry thousands of things you shit, and you're ruining a project of the year since 1970 that has the right to change human life for the better, if you want to live in the fucking life of vices and sacrifices alive, but I want to change something that was supposed to have started doing away with all suffering. I do not want to know how people think that this is, this will improve and will happen at all costs.
We have huge human insigificantes criminal how people that never change, it is better to reduce them. And creating something that should have already been created for a long time, the Venus project.
That's right question EVERYTHING! Question the Venus Project but don't stop there. Question everything that anyone tells you. Learn critical thinking skills! Closing your mind is like burying your head in the sand. Shouldn't believe ANYTHING really but we needn't disbelieve ANYTHING either. Certainty is only relative. The Jury is always still "out" so to speak.
Honestamente, hay algun otro argumento aparte de que digan que hace falta menos gente. ¿Acaso las grandes ciudades son mejores a lo que Jacques propone? ¿En serio tienes un buen argumento ademas de la presunción, sin mayor base que la idea de una menor población mundial, que intentan implementar medidas genocidas? ¿Has investigado a fondo las ideas y propuestas del proyecto venus? Si puedes corroborar de manera solida todo esto del nuevo orden mundial me declarare seguidor de tu movimiento.
Resistensia humana espera ke los extraterrestres nos salven jajajaja las buenas vibras, la energia de nuestros cuerpos iluminara todo el planeta tierra y seremos felices como un cuento de adas...
Not at all persuaded that TZM is anytghing other than it appears to be.T here is the necessity of large scale consent which they brush aside as an assumption that might be understood as preparing for Armageddon. Like Chartists, Thomas Paine and communists, they think that the depth of despair and obvious conditions and solutions will move people to reason. Hardly likely to inspire the mind to genocide. The corporate superstate doesn't have the ability to control its own agenda.
So some jackass slices a video of peter joseph talking at a podium and some asshole from the UN talking at a podium like they are working together? What kind of layered horseshit is this?
population reduction isn't necessary nor would anyone let it happen. The resource based economy is designed to efficiently use resources to meet EVERY human need on earth. Why would we need pop. reduction? The idea is to have high density of cities to better accommodate our current 30+ person per sq mi. Some of these images are large cities. 0:36 city on the sea 80,000+ people could be there. find "circular city" Google images. each city could hold ~50,000 people with several cities in an area.
Well, we know it's not going to happen. These are candy dreams and if there is a hidden agenda by the NWO, well .... don't get chipped and pray real hard when they kill you or you end up starving to death. From what I can tell, when you get chipped they'll be able to control your mind or at least use it as ONE of many methods to neutralize your resistance. You won't be your own person then.
I fail to see why jacques fresco would want to kill all these people in order to execute the venus projet,when he clearly says that there is enough ressources for everybody. If we put our minds to it im sure the planet can sustain at least 20 billion peoples.We just have to change ours ways a little. Look at the interview whit larry king from 1974 and listen !
Each of us have to do our own research to find truth, what appears true for you may not be the same truth for someone else. It is apparent that this video is manipulated to suit the sponsor's agenda. So as my father use to say, believe none of what you read and none of what you see. So to the editor and producer of this video what is your agenda?
@AliciaAngelfire My agenda is this _ Against the Humanmanipulation take a look at my channel and watch this video : NEW WORLD ORDER TRUTH EXPOSED 2011
A betterment of society featuring for instance, constructions that coexist in harmony with nature, replacing run down alleys and dirt filled corners with healthier life conditions, is not an evil agenda.
And evil agenda is keeping the population under maximum control (via micro-chipping for instance, so that you can always be located) while furthering a plan for a financial paradise that will benefit an elite, but diminish and enslave the majority of the people.
if this is true, i hope you and all other ignorants that think the same will die first in the so called "population reduction". and for your information there is a lot of land to make new cities, and if we are so many how come here in spain are more and more villages abandoned ? you have absolutelly no idea about the world you live in. stop spamming around your rubbish. and yes you say in your channel that u're not atheist and imo, to be able to see the things clear u have to become one first
Hooee L0L wait a minute where are all those new cities ,¡ ¿?, do you mean NYc is not the new city anymore ,, l0l you're so brainwashed people but is a good wish to live IN underwater cities like the mermaid L. O. L
@ResistenciaHumana wtf are you talking about ? did I said something about NYc ? and yes it would be awesome to live in underwater cities why not ? to see the oceanic ecosistems in their natural habitat. and the new cities will be build from zero, as Jaques said it is more convenient and easier to build a new city from scrap than to restore the actual existing ones. dude your problem is that u believe in some kind of god and u don't open your mind to the technology that we already have.
@AXOMME smaller places are abandoned because most governement s are stacking up there "assests" in cities, why, probably so the media has less work to do when they try to sell us the overpopulated line.
@AXOMME I don't belive in a conspiracy, but the need of a reduction in the world population is logic. A boat made for 10 can not carry 20.
Is ther space for more cities? Sure. Even in the places they grow crops there's space to make cities. But we can not only have cities, righ?
The problem in Spain with native popultion is particular for rich or "semi-rich" countryes like Spain, but i doesn't represent the world situation. Birht control is not the same as executing people.
@ResistenciaHumana Or maybe nature raises a new disease. Sometimes the earth reacts as a whole, like an organism. The human specie is now like a plague. We are by no means "special". We are only the most dangerous animal for the balance of the planet.
are you so naive? i can prove the Vatican and the US government is part of the NWO.
in fact, the beliefs in the NWO without prove by itself is naive and ignorant.
on the other hand, no matter what it call, be it Venus or Jupiter or whatever project, the thing you have to do is to look at the proposition and think to yourself, is it a good idea?
Creating a better society is against your wishes?
The pursuit of Happiness is not good? you are sick...
the ZG movement says that education is a key to sustainability. an educated populace does not need control. In an interview, Jaque Fresco said there will be no need to recommend against sex.
@LowresTV people would be given the information of the resource yield of where they are and all the like. The people would make decisions based on the information. "Can I support a child? Can this area support more people? Will this environment make my child excel?" questions like that people would have to ask themselves.
@warobsessive "People" have already this information. We never had a time in wich, information was so available for a large number of people. What do you see?
People are not that rasonable. Always they expect others to make the sacrifice or decision. Look at USA. It has( I don't know now, with this crisis) the beahvior of consuming and waist half of the food produced in the world, while in large parts of the planet, people doesn't have even clean water. Don't have much faith in humankind.
The argument for "Reducing poulation" is so hypocritical.
there is nothing more detremental to the human population than the current socio-economic system we live in today, where 3rd of the world's food is being dumped. food that could easily provide for the world hungry popuation.
This argument can only be made by one who thinks there is not enough to go around and so prefers how resources are currently distributed. this reveals one's selfish motive for gain, no matter how it effect others
The argument for "Reducing the poulation" is so hypocritical.
there is nothing more detremental to the human population than the current socio-economic system we live in today, where 3rd of the world's food is being dumped. food that could easily provide for the world hungry popuation.
Bad video. People like you are indirectly responsible for a lot more years of starvation, poverty, killings and pollution. By doing this sort of nonsense video you and others are working against the Zeitgeist Movement objectives and are participating on the elite's agenda. The Bilderberg group, the Rockefellers and all that represent the monetary system are very proud of you.
@DvineGaming since not once in 6th months did anyone comment on your post, I will take that 'honor'. You do know that many cupples choose not to have kids at all, and most who do have kids limmit it to two. And how is having 3 kids in a family (from two adults) going to reduce the population? One child families would reduce it at an okay rate, but do you want this to turn out like China? Youre on to somthing tho, population control. The government is poising our water in attampt to sterilize us.
@AkumaxTamashii I was saying if all the families only had 3 children, then there would be less because in a lot of Asia there are families of 10 and more.
@DvineGaming well that will be kinda hard to make all of asia go from 10+ kids to only 3. The NWO realized that so they have been trying to steralize the population. They should really put more emphasis on adoption. Have as many kids as you want! As long as they wernt born into your family.
Being totally honest when I watched Moving forward I thought "wow this is a NWO dreamland" adn yesterday while I was very stoned I thought "get off my face pink elephants... wait doesn't peter joseph represent new era Jesus?" truth is this dude, if this is what the New world order is offering, I am up for it, you do not need to reduce population you just have to become concious that increase must be stopped by consensus,5 years with a reduce birth rate will do the trick... learn more.
dude you are confusing your sh*t, don't make false similarities. the Z movement HAS NEVER mentioned reducing the population, you are looking at the georgia monolith thingy that has been there like 20 yrs. or something. Don't confuse people, get your facts straight if not then i kindly ask of you my noble sir (assuming you are a man) to please go ahead and take a sh*t!!
@lejavie dont know if this comment was aimed at me, but if it was why does peter joseph actually say i wont be having kids because the way we are going we cannot sustain the population and that it will be out of balance with the rest of the planet, if we continue using the current systems and beliefs (big family's) he is not saying to de populate but to change our thinking of everyone needs kids and the whole family thing. i cant say i agree with a selective breeding, but what choice do we have?
you are right about the music. the message is clear enough, real or not real, that b grade slasher movie sound takes something away from it, and steers it in a direction that makes you think "Gimme a break"
you bet buddy, too many people means not enough resources, which leads to wars over water and food, just like the jungles of Africa. Only when more evolved species go to war its to exterminate their competiton on an bigger scale and they are over the tipping point so be ready for mass extinction thru virus or chemical spill or both. Too many humans = somebody has to go, and believe it wont be a matter of what your religious beliefs are only that you're another mouth we cant feed. Wake up people
WELL WHO HERE HAS A BETTER IDEA OR CONCEPT THAN THE VENUS PROJECT! Well come on. easy to sit back and judge someone who is making an effort. most conspiracy theorists have bad paranoia it seems. and the truths they find that doesn't go with their previous beliefs will be disregarded. keep the monetary system then and keep breeding see what that brings and what it will do for human rights. Logic anyone?
If you really want to give us info then don't try doing in a way to put fear in us by putting that stupid music behind it. Because to me, all your showing me is exactly what your telling me they are doing
I don't know but, I think that if "THEY" wanted us dead, then they could kill us. I think the chemtrails are true but, maybe they are trying to help out the environment the best way they can. Putting aluminum on strips to redirect the sun because of global warming? I mean come on, at least they are trying to keep us from burning up from the sun. If they were trying to kill us then why would they waste money on that?
Then I stayed away for a few days to gather my thoughts and really think about what it was all about and I realized, Isn't it always the ones who cry wolf that are the perpetrators? The ones who point the finger always have three pointing right back at them.
why do you have the music behind it? Is it to make it more dramatic so, we will feel like this is more of a sense of urgency? Of all these videos that I have watched regarding these types of issues, chemtrails, NWO, manipulation, fear, control, It seems to me that you people are the ones who are trying to put the fear into us instead of them! I watches all this and then I walked away scared so bad that I was crying and shaking.
This video is deliberate disinformation. It is in stark contrast to what TVP envisions for humanity. Please educate yourself before distributing this fairy tale.
its pretty hilarious, i find, that the NWO is always portrayed as this monolithic beast created by government destined to enslave us, and yet they claim an underground grass roots movement is bringing this on??
I fail to see the connection here. The only 'manipulation' is by the creator of this video. TVP does not state that the global population will have to be reduced. The UN may have, but, if anything, that proves that TVP are NOT in league with the UN, as TVP implicitly states that there is enough food and resources on earth for everyone, as it stands now! Also, TVP wants the monetary system and politics abolished... so what government is there to tell anyone what resources they can or can't have?
@bbwoolfy .....You ARE a dUMBASS you really need to watch the 2 first parts of this video . the boicot against the finantial institutions & the banks was part of the crissis in 2009 ,,
and Zeitgesit was involved ...
search also for this : How The U.S. Government Engineered The Current Economic Crisis
@bbwoolfy The "VENUS" project, venus is also a representation of lucifer; the nwo spiritual leader that will abolish all religions and nations, this is pure ocultism, for us to worship the devil
@FlaiteOne NOT TRUE , the name "VENUS" in venus project come from the fact the project location is in Venus, Florida ( you don't need a brain to figure that out) =p 100% debunked
@yxrcbszg thats what they want u to think, i dont really think theyd name such a big project after a location lol, even jacques calls for sun worship in one of he's interviews, its paganism at its best
@FlaiteOne you are the second person to tell me "thats what they want u to think" that doesn't really helps me understand the evil plot behind the Venus project, just making a excuse because you don't have all the facts and saying that the Venus project is only named "Venus" because of an evil bogeyman is like saying a German Sherpard or a Siberian Husky isn't given that name because where it species came from no by some evil Lucifian Conspiracy behind there names. (no proof, no positive)
@yxrcbszg Zeitgeist is gnostic satanism (atleast the religious part) most of their sources come from works of freemasons such as albert pike, manly p hall, he took all that christ bullshit from a book named The christ conspiracy written by Acharia S a luciferian who's book was a rip off of a Helena Blabatsky's book called isis unveiled, helena blabatsky was a well known luciferian who funded the theosophycal society, zeitgeist takes info from jordan maxwell friend of 33rddegree masons,theresmore
@bbwoolfy ...KEEP DREAMING Buddy .. Im so sad and disapointed because people refuses to see and to face the reality , scape from or deny it won't make things better ZM CP UN Programs New Age Masiive movements and other shits are not a real solution if they were i would be with them also supporting them but for people is more easy to follow what they like instead of make the right stuff
@bbwoolfy OF COURSE THEY DON'T did you really spect them to openly state their true intentions ??? or that they would say sometimes we are part of the NWO indoctrination ..? Of course not ,, but they work still is part of the new age agenda and the New World programs , as well as the UN programs MAKE A REAL RESEARCH before to say something about this serious situation , the NWO is rea
l and it will be implanted very soon if more naive people keep supporting their strategies
@bbwoolfy IN THE REAL NWO , the government and politics are obsollet the world resourses will be owned by the GLOBAL TECHNOCRATIC STATE thats why they need the economyc system and the actual internacional politics to collapse
read please the atlantis future origins of the nwo and a book called the Georgia stone guide's true creators
@bbwoolfy 'Externalising the Hierarchy' for Mme Blatavsky depends on LOTS of people being clueless, Atheist and easily influenced. See my channel blurb TVP & TZM are corporate arms of Govt Global Agenda -- SEE last link on my channel text. 'Rockerfeller Womens Lib' -
which shows how manipulative greedy bankers will seed ideas in media to look as if 'organic' movements 'indie grassroots'. - Rockefellers goal wasnt 'liberation' but ENSLAVEMENT & TAXATION of the other 50% homebodys DITTO TZM
If we succeed in switching to a RBE, we could sustain many more people than are currently on this planet. Because we'd apply the most efficient and durable technology currently available. The effect would be an abundance of energy - geothermal, wind, tidal and solar energy.
This video is about a conspiracy theory, because all the sources cited in the description do not make the link with TVP or the Zeitgeist movement. Thumbs up if you agree!
In order to bring in these systems, promising peace and happiness for all.. there will first huge, wars because not everyone will be on board... So they'll have to get rid of all the "backwards thinkers" that are holding the human race back. basically a lot of people are going to have to be off'd (in the name of peace). This is no different then what "religious nuts" do. This is a frightening road to go down.
The all knowing central data base makes all decisions in their world as humans are inferior to machines according to them. There are biological humans on this planet who do not have souls. They call themselves Trans-humanists. They do not understand that data is not the same thing as knowledge or wisdom and they never will.
@disclosurenow9 That's a rather arrogant statement saying that "they never will (know)". Can you explain to me the difference between 'data', 'information' and 'wisdom'? I know of nobody in the Zeitgeist movement that fits the definition of trans-humanist, so you can help me out there.
To be correct you'd have to say that computers can automate decisions. Computers are in a sense stupid in that they only execute what you program them to do. They act as an extension of our insights.
The NWO, by all reports, seeks to centralize all things, including all governments into one global government. TVP/TZM seek to decentralize everything. Bringing all human activity back down to the community level, with no government, no laws, no money, and no perceived need to control anyone or anything.
A properly designed society needs no laws or paper proclamations to prop it up. Any society which needs laws, has a much deeper problem gnawing at its roots.
You says "THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY ¡ THIS IS REAL" depends what you are refering to: your video or NWO as a whole. If it is this video then it is plain bullshit.
Ofcourse NWO is conspiracy, it is not even a theory it is hypothesis. Conspiracy hypothesis.
Instead of watch this obsolutely pointless videos, start reading books and start to develop critical thinking.
This video is wishy washy, at least put in the effort when you try to expose something. 6 minutes of poorly defined arguments.
In Venus society there is no goverment an no authoritism - it is social anarchism. To create a GLOBAL society on the bases of social anarchism is virtual impossible - too much of a parasgm shift. Hence, I dont think Venus Project will work.
never ever ever ever allow all the nations of the world to become 1..theres a chance that will be a good thing..but mostly NOT!..open your eyes people..that is not a good idea!..
Hate the video, very untrue and the TZM and TVP has nothing do with the RBEF , but what is the name of the song playing in the background, it is nice lol
Awake 311...I think it is time for change... The planet is overpopulated. Yes, it is sad that genocide is factored in. We all must die sooner or later. Is it right to kill slowly. The people and planet need harmony. This is not so far fetched. My problem is "WHO DECIDES. " I say "Who soever calls themselves elite or wise or consider themselves above all. Hoarders of Vanity and Greed, Rulers and Leaders surely will have there just reward".
this is BULLSHIT...simple as that...if you are not well informed about it...just shut up....
esto es pura mentira, esta persona no tiene ninguna base para hablar de una economia basada en recursos.... es pura mentira lo que dice este video.....
Paranoid delusions, how pathetic... Take some more lithium before checking under your bed for the boogie man. I bet if the maker of this clip were to ask him mother at what age did he finish potty training, she'd probably reply with an approximate age of 8 years old. Oh, and the KGB are not coming to get you either...
I went to the zeitgeist official discussion group. The coordinator likened democracy to "10 white men hanging a black man" not as high minded as I would have expected. That is the attitude. That some poor white red-neck like 'me' is the enemy. It was the most racially brutal thing I have heard all year and I live in the deep south. When are they going to stop using southern white men as a anything but a dead horse to beat. Their 'enemy'. Come visit Memphis before your abuse
@KaleRay93 The Venus Project On The Edge (10-1/09) Part 9
minute 2 : 32
are you in favor of reducing the population of the planet Jacque¿?Fresco: No by force, by education.
That means u dont have any rights to decide how many children u want to have. He also said freedom of speach is dangerous cuz make trouble.. in part 5 or 6... listen the whole interview if u want and compare the 2 systems... ARE ALMOST THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR THE MONEY PART!- and srry for my english im from argentina. u.u
You're a damned fool. He never once said you wouldn't be free to have as many kids as you want, but you would be smart enough to be environmentally conscience. If you were smart, you'll have less kids (as most industrialized countries already show this trend) but if you're a spear-chucking disease ridden creature from the other side of the globe, unprotected sex is just fine because its all that is around. Every claim you've made in this video is false. Absolutely false.
@KaleRay93 yeah sure, thats why my country have less populations and less aids and deseases than USA, becouse we dont think u.u, Sure, thats why Ted Turner buyed lands in the south of my country.. cuz is so insecure and contaminated that is almost hell... hahahaha... What they make u belive happens in other parts of the planet that arent United States, isnt completly the truth, u know?. This dude planet have abundance for all, now he change his mind aparently
This has NOTHING to do ith "Zeitgeist" but in fact the oppositte!
Zeitgeist says No "money" based economy anymore. No more "isms" Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, etc..Give rights back to the people, let them think; apart from the Structures and Systems that have been fed to us from cradle to grave. This includes all Systems Political, Educational, Religious, etc...Get the facts, don't go by this sham of a production. These people want to deceive you into thinking its all part of the same.
Neither Peter Joseph of ZM nor anyone associated with the Venus Project advocates radical population reduction (= mass murder on a global scale). There may or may not be other things problematic about VP/ZM, but this preposterous crap is NOT one of 'em!
@MCP2012 Thank You! Iv'e been trying to spread the word on these deceitful websites that accuse the Zeitgeist movement of doing that. lazy people just won't watch it for themselves and make up their own minds.
@atlasshrugged2u U're very welcome! As I said, there *may* well be *other* problems with some of the VP/ZM's proposals. But it is preposterous, "loony-toons" CRAP to purport that they at all whatsoever advocate radical (or even not-so-radical) population reduction!! There is simply NOTHING whatsoever---ZERO!!---in any VP/ZM stuff that I've seen that even hints at this or could at all be construed to imply this!! So WHY is this inane CRAP being spread?! Do ur homework, people!!
@MCP2012 I know this thing is gona get big and possibly ugly as the years go on. I am an oxy moron myself because I do believe in God and have my own personal relationship with Him. I do not and never have believed in organized Religion and knew something was wrong even as a young child. However "Zeitgeist" is a welcome change and a breath of fresh air, and I fully support it and will continue because we need something to "light a fire" under the asses of people to get them to THINK. It's time
To the NWO group, "resource based economy" means everything for them, nothing for the rest of humanity; even after they decimate the populations of the earth. Any humans left will be the NWO slaves. Oh yes, there will be peace simply because no one will have the freedom or the strength to resist being a slave.
@olga2415 There is NOTHING at all whatsoever in the ZM/VP literature/vids/radiotalks that at all whatsoever supports this!! ZERO! Now, while there **may** be problems with replacing (or obviating) the (basic economic) **functions** of **money**, & also, depending on how it's done, with most sorts of central planning (see Hayek/Mises on monetary calculation & the probs of centralized socialism), what U state **here**, is, with all due respect, sheer, unmitigated, BULLSHIT!! Do ur homework!!
@MCP2012 No, you do YOUR homework. Haven't you ever been exposed to the technique of having certain writers, etc. who secretly support a concept actually write articles against it? It is a tactical way to convey the idea that an issue is being debated from all sides, effectively excluding other writers who might propose more effective solutions than the writer emplaced to create the illusion. I guess this is beyond your comprehension. Public perception is being molded. Period. It's an old game.
@olga2415 "I guess this is beyond your comprehension." Thanks, Olga! Actually, tho, I think I DO comprehend that (as difficult as*that* *might* be for U to comprehend...), but what *evidence* do u have to support ur conjecture (= accusation). Now, VP/ZM may well have some quasi-Marxian/Veblenesque/Technocratic problems, especially from a Hayekian/Misesian (say) perspective. But it's nonetheless the case that we CAN accomplish much or all of the VP/ZM agenda. Ur thoughts?
@MCP2012 Well, honestly, I do not presume to know what solutions to offer to anything created by a pack of lies, disinformation, and misinformation by govt. types. Solutions require that the information utilized or acted upon be accurate; and since most of mankind's problems are caused by a pack of lies, there can be no solution. This is why mankind is where we are today. Too many lies; too much government; too many minions; too many sychophants to govt.; too much greed. Too little humanity.
@olga2415 Or, upon 2nd reading of ur post here, am I misunderstanding the thrust of ur remark?! I'd **concur** w/u that the Rockefeller/Rothschild/CFR/Bilderberger bankster-fascist "power elite(s)" do indeed want what Tony de Jasay aptly calls a global PLANTATION, a NEO-*FEUDALISM*. BUT, this is precisely the OPPOSITE of what VP/ZM advocates!! No, again, there may be problems with VP/ZM, but its being secretly allied with or a "front" for NWO banksters is **NOT** one of 'em!! Best wishes...
@olga2415 I concur w/u in ur view of what it is the NWO bankster-fascists want to transform the world into. The want a global PLANTATION with them as the massas & the rest of us serfs (slaves, peons). But what evidence do u have that VP/ZM r even unwittingly (much less knowingly) "fronts" or "shills" for the NWO crowd?! They may well be (tho for the time being I doubt it), but what/where's the evidence?! Looking forward to ur reply, as always...
@MCP2012 There can be no dependable "evidence" to any of this due to the degree of disinformation and misinformation put out. There is not one of us alive on the earth that can know for CERTAIN the truth of ANY issue. In the interest of extreme caution, however, I trust no one and nothing put out by anyone in govt. [even the so-called "leaks"] LOL
You show the Resource Based Economy Foundation? Now I know you haven't done proper research, the RBEF & RBOSE are both splinter groups that decided to as they put it "do what we won't." They have a rather derogatory disposition towards the ZM actually. In fact they both are very arrogant when you read their blogs & what not. They still demand from TZM an apology & an open collaboration with them & Peter J has already said "If you think RBOSE has anything to do with TZM your way off."
All I see is picture put together. No facts!! To point out your view.....SO if you can show us the connection. Some form of documents or maybe video. Showing the connection between NWO and ZM & TVP. But all I see is pictures NO FACTS
@ResistenciaHumanaInterestingmovement:I went to the zeitgeist official discussion group.The coordinator likened democracy to10 white men hanging a black man" not as high minded as I would have expected.That is the attitude. That white red-neck like 'me' is the enemy.It was the most racially brutal thing I have heard all year and I live in the deep south.When are they going to stop using southern white men as a anything but a dead horse to beat.Their 'enemy'. Come visit Memphis before your abuse
@ResistenciaHumana , There is nothing NWO about the Venus Project. They advocate no money and no government. When you hear political leaders/dictators talking about financial reform,, they mean just that. They have no plans of outgrowing the monetary system or systems of control. In fact, they wish to tighten their grips. Overpopulation is a myth, which is NOT perpetuated by the Zeitgeist Movement, or the Venus Project. There is nothing elitist about the VP or the ZM, who advocate an RBE.
@ResistenciaHumana .. I'm sorry to say this, but this is just embarrassing! There is no reason in pointing fingers and claiming others to be wrong if you don't have a solution or an alternative to present..
further more you claim "i was with the VP since the begining then i realize of the true agenda , their hidden intentions and their manipulation agenda" funny thing is that you are only 26, which needless to say, means that you have been with the V.project since many years before your birth
@ResistenciaHumana.. I'm sorry to say this, but this is just embarrassing! There is no reason in pointing fingers and claiming others to be wrong if you don't have a solution or an alternative to present.
further more you claim "i was with the VP since the begining then i realize of the true agenda , their hidden intentions and their manipulation agenda" funny thing is that you are only 26, which needless to say, means that you have been with the V.project since many years before your birth
@ResistenciaHumana.. I'm sorry to say this, but this is just embarrassing! There is no reason in pointing fingers and claiming others to be wrong if you don't have a solution or an alternative to present..
further more you claim "i was with the VP since the begining then i realize of the true agenda , their hidden intentions and their manipulation agenda" funny thing is that you are only 26, which needless to say, means that you have been with the V.project since many years before your birth
if i saw this video before i saw Aeon flux i would say is bull shit, but, you guys have to watch Aeon Flux is practically the something, a virus destroys 90% of the earth and they create some little city in the forest, were everyone lives in harmony, i deffo recommend you watching it, then re analysing VP and those people who say that resources are meant of everyone ofc that is true however what is not true is that everyone will be equal,because there will always be a group incharge
Thanks for the info i haven't heard about Aeon Flux anyway there has been a lot of Hollywood movies lately about viruses and end of humanity , as well as several new age films about the end of the age and a new civilitation & movies like Avatar , 2012 Movie and also series like Life after People from the American HISTORY CHANNEL the most intriguing is that all these people likes to show their future plans in >>continue Below
Wow B -I -Z -A -R R -E , something is happening there is not doubt about it
but In order to understand the all real scenario you have to know everything about everything specially about the new age and the masonic nwo ..they 're in everywhere and literally in everything including the United Nations Org & and the EU,
both EU and the UN spread the new age system world wide
@Thegreyraccoon , would you seriously believe a myth based on an animated series from MTV, which was later adapted into a movie? The series was so disjointed and disconnected from even its own self, that it made little or no sense. The movie took a bunch of disjointed cartoons and turned them into a semi coherent movie for entertainment and profit alone. If there is, in fact, a NWO, then it consists of bankers, politicians, and super rich billionaires, NOT members of a grassroots movement.
@Thegreyraccoon , Why? Or how? Why, would be because they are owned by those major corporations. There may have been a time when one could rely on honesty from the media. However, those days are long past since the major media buy outs by major corporations, many of which have investors from the large banking institutions.
@Thegreyraccoon , that hardly counts as clarification, since you didn't even suggest what I should be looking for. Should I be looking for pre-conditioning, or media as a propaganda machine, or little dainty flowers?
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The devil is losing and at the end will be judged for all the crimes. Live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and deception of devil. Jesus Christ is the savior, love and hope.
diptdipt 2 weeks ago
You do know that Jacques pictures are conceptual right?
4:06 you really cherry picked the quote right there, have you bothered to watch the documentary before slamming it? Theres a part in there talks about the monetary system creating virtual scarcity.
Willaras 1 month ago
@Willaras what about the Underwater cities , the Robots and all the BS shit ?? do you realize that Jakes fresco's models are pure rubish propaganda and manipulation ?
KchristianX 1 month ago
The USA is the leading food producer on the planet and the winner of most 0f the Noble prizes for scientific breakthroughs in the last century without which much of the human race would have been herded into Nazi cyanide gas showers or been starved to death on ineptly micromanaged collective farms by now, Europeans who make social parasite charges against Americans don't have anywhere near our record of helping the human race survive. We're the goose with the golden eggs. Don't try cooking us.
Texasjim2007 3 months ago 2
The best odds we have right now for long term human survival is to work on developing cybernetic virtual realities fhe majority of the human race can live and work in using less energy than we need in our denser natural reality. That path lets us conserve existing resources without sacrificing human brainpower needed to discover or create new resources unlike the population reduction idea so popular with European elites guilty of murdering millions in Dachaus and Gulags to steal resources.
Texasjim2007 3 months ago
Anybody talking about "overpopulation" is not out to help you. I don't notice any of them ever volunteering to be part of the population that gets reduced, What they want is to kill off other people so they have more natural resources for themself. It is not possible to save the human race from running out of resources eventually no matter how much they're conserved. We need new technology and scientific discoveries to survive which we don't get by reducing the number of human brains.
Texasjim2007 3 months ago
LOL this actually made me laugh.
jotacravo 3 months ago
The Zeitgeist Movement Exposed
no!!!
nerisilvia4 4 months ago
What are the songs you are using? i kinda like them :D
ddRjM 4 months ago
Jesus fucking christ! Who made this shit? I agree that we need to reduce the population of the planet starting with idiots like you!
ducknecksausage 5 months ago
@ducknecksausage you prove yourself a fool by subscribing to the idea we are over populated when you have not the first clue if there is any truth to it & all you are doing is relaying dangerous wild assumptions
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TZM =/= NWO
TZM =/= Utopia or any other "perfect" global system
People, like the creator of this film who distort the ideas of TZM to fit their incendiary claims of a global conspiracy and "anti-patriotic" agenda are tools of the corrupt system currently in place and actually tend to be religious, usually Christian, promoting their OWN agenda of some desired Armageddon and Christian THEOCRACY controlled primarily by extremists like Dominionists/New Apostolic Reformation Movement cultists.
xephyr1000 5 months ago 2
lol this makes no sense. get your facts straight.
UnattendedMind 5 months ago
OMG! At 04:21 this guy/gall sais, maybe didn't intended to, but non the less did: "They want to take a rubish place and make it nice and comfortable! They are evil!" and "They forgot to put CGI people on a CGI town, therefore they're evil!"
rangeoshun1 5 months ago
How does ANY type of truth twist anyones perspective? Lol.
baconpoptarts 6 months ago
@ResistenciaHumana I see what you mean and I think many people are confused by this, a RBE wont have David Cameron and Obama bombing people with oil.
The RBE discused in Zeitgeist isnt only a global resource based economy founded on proven science but also based on a philisophy that we are all one and everyone must live in peace and be risen to their highest potential.
Not have everyone killed and the rest thrown in prison cities or other hollywood inspired ideas.
Also I love the music :-)
Willaras 6 months ago
It may just be a video game, but the Assassin's Creed makes perfect sense to me: "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted."
HimynameisSPONGEBOOB 7 months ago
the population could be stinted in a few years if we stopped all this irresponsible reproduction! do you have a better idea than a resource based economy? do you like the current state of affairs? that's what i thought, if your not talking alternatives then we don't want to hear your hate propaganda. it's not productive
sajinmaster 8 months ago
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The biggest lie ever!
Play671 8 months ago
full stupidness,of course-peoplehave to unite,but with no banks,politicians,institutions,or religious differences and seperations,no-money,but also-no rfid chips,no control ,from any bank,reach corporations,or elite,but freedom,and unite world,no dictatorship,no comunism,capitalism,or some "isme",freedom-real freedom that we never knew before...-the real freedom is to make what you want-with no bothering the other,with no disrespect his rights,this is freedom and democracy
zayo255 8 months ago
Are you in psychiatric care? If not: seek help.
MrSeventhElement 8 months ago
To all the paranoid delusionists, the worst is happening 'NOW' this is the reason why so many ppl are waking up, enoughs enough. The "elites" you speak of , are nothing more then over stuffed baisd turkeys. Is this really whom your afriad?
lightsoljer 9 months ago
seriously.... folks will turn anything into a conspiracy theory.. Now. to all these folks who passionately speak out of their as*... opinion... Where is the evidence.. ? How were u able to put this all together? I would not be surprised if it was a bunch of college students on drugs, who did a lil too much one day...
Some people do; others only complain their entire lives.
mretarush 9 months ago
Great manipulation video! ;-)
zabak33 9 months ago
well if these people didn't exist we would have changed many years ago ...but they are, why don't you just go your place called "heaven" and leave our place alone...
vetklodder 9 months ago
Earth is rich in resources, that is not something to worry for. What we have to work thorughly is to educate every human being to further progress. Educate them with facts, not myths.
Nikushimii369 10 months ago
thanks for sharing ur ego
Namaste
ranjat25 10 months ago
HAY I'm ready to die.I know where I'm going I'll be with JESUS
mogges1 10 months ago
if this is say what I'm thinking then you want even be able to grow your own food,if you have a stock pound they will own it.
mogges1 10 months ago
now I'm starting to see Obamma will be AMERICAS last Priesident.
mogges1 10 months ago
do not need a big city to carry thousands of things you shit, and you're ruining a project of the year since 1970 that has the right to change human life for the better, if you want to live in the fucking life of vices and sacrifices alive, but I want to change something that was supposed to have started doing away with all suffering. I do not want to know how people think that this is, this will improve and will happen at all costs.
Play671 10 months ago
We have huge human insigificantes criminal how people that never change, it is better to reduce them. And creating something that should have already been created for a long time, the Venus project.
Play671 10 months ago
That's right question EVERYTHING! Question the Venus Project but don't stop there. Question everything that anyone tells you. Learn critical thinking skills! Closing your mind is like burying your head in the sand. Shouldn't believe ANYTHING really but we needn't disbelieve ANYTHING either. Certainty is only relative. The Jury is always still "out" so to speak.
ihaveathoughtprocess 10 months ago
Honestamente, hay algun otro argumento aparte de que digan que hace falta menos gente. ¿Acaso las grandes ciudades son mejores a lo que Jacques propone? ¿En serio tienes un buen argumento ademas de la presunción, sin mayor base que la idea de una menor población mundial, que intentan implementar medidas genocidas? ¿Has investigado a fondo las ideas y propuestas del proyecto venus? Si puedes corroborar de manera solida todo esto del nuevo orden mundial me declarare seguidor de tu movimiento.
Gerardjack 11 months ago
Resistensia humana espera ke los extraterrestres nos salven jajajaja las buenas vibras, la energia de nuestros cuerpos iluminara todo el planeta tierra y seremos felices como un cuento de adas...
Sebastianyato 11 months ago
Not at all persuaded that TZM is anytghing other than it appears to be.T here is the necessity of large scale consent which they brush aside as an assumption that might be understood as preparing for Armageddon. Like Chartists, Thomas Paine and communists, they think that the depth of despair and obvious conditions and solutions will move people to reason. Hardly likely to inspire the mind to genocide. The corporate superstate doesn't have the ability to control its own agenda.
TimthedogLinehan 11 months ago
So some jackass slices a video of peter joseph talking at a podium and some asshole from the UN talking at a podium like they are working together? What kind of layered horseshit is this?
Widetotem 11 months ago
peter joseph merola does not dislike the kkk
brahmbhattbhavna 11 months ago
population reduction isn't necessary nor would anyone let it happen. The resource based economy is designed to efficiently use resources to meet EVERY human need on earth. Why would we need pop. reduction? The idea is to have high density of cities to better accommodate our current 30+ person per sq mi. Some of these images are large cities. 0:36 city on the sea 80,000+ people could be there. find "circular city" Google images. each city could hold ~50,000 people with several cities in an area.
warobsessive 1 year ago
Well, we know it's not going to happen. These are candy dreams and if there is a hidden agenda by the NWO, well .... don't get chipped and pray real hard when they kill you or you end up starving to death. From what I can tell, when you get chipped they'll be able to control your mind or at least use it as ONE of many methods to neutralize your resistance. You won't be your own person then.
ObnoxiousOldFart 1 year ago
after reading 'New age's Anti-christian World' i didn't even bother watching.
focista6 1 year ago
I fail to see why jacques fresco would want to kill all these people in order to execute the venus projet,when he clearly says that there is enough ressources for everybody. If we put our minds to it im sure the planet can sustain at least 20 billion peoples.We just have to change ours ways a little. Look at the interview whit larry king from 1974 and listen !
Kingcantine 1 year ago
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this video is full of shit
Burtfarsk 1 year ago
you need to edit the links page - it returns broken links
Blissentia 1 year ago
Each of us have to do our own research to find truth, what appears true for you may not be the same truth for someone else. It is apparent that this video is manipulated to suit the sponsor's agenda. So as my father use to say, believe none of what you read and none of what you see. So to the editor and producer of this video what is your agenda?
AliciaAngelfire 1 year ago 5
@AliciaAngelfire My agenda is this _ Against the Humanmanipulation take a look at my channel and watch this video : NEW WORLD ORDER TRUTH EXPOSED 2011
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana
Excuse me,
A betterment of society featuring for instance, constructions that coexist in harmony with nature, replacing run down alleys and dirt filled corners with healthier life conditions, is not an evil agenda.
And evil agenda is keeping the population under maximum control (via micro-chipping for instance, so that you can always be located) while furthering a plan for a financial paradise that will benefit an elite, but diminish and enslave the majority of the people.
LunaSeaSane 4 months ago
I sincerely wish people got rid of their soap opera drama before tackling these issues.
Caring for the world and improving it is not "an evil agenda".
Let's not forget that "agenda" is simply a latin word for "notebook" or "plan".
The problem is finance and power; a tiranical and elitist approach that disregards the planet and the quality of life we're exposed to.
Viewing people as slaves; keeping them smart enough to do an efficient job but dumb enough not to wonder much about the system.
LunaSeaSane 4 months ago 2
if this is true, i hope you and all other ignorants that think the same will die first in the so called "population reduction". and for your information there is a lot of land to make new cities, and if we are so many how come here in spain are more and more villages abandoned ? you have absolutelly no idea about the world you live in. stop spamming around your rubbish. and yes you say in your channel that u're not atheist and imo, to be able to see the things clear u have to become one first
AXOMME 1 year ago
Hooee L0L wait a minute where are all those new cities ,¡ ¿?, do you mean NYc is not the new city anymore ,, l0l you're so brainwashed people but is a good wish to live IN underwater cities like the mermaid L. O. L
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana wtf are you talking about ? did I said something about NYc ? and yes it would be awesome to live in underwater cities why not ? to see the oceanic ecosistems in their natural habitat. and the new cities will be build from zero, as Jaques said it is more convenient and easier to build a new city from scrap than to restore the actual existing ones. dude your problem is that u believe in some kind of god and u don't open your mind to the technology that we already have.
AXOMME 1 year ago
@AXOMME smaller places are abandoned because most governement s are stacking up there "assests" in cities, why, probably so the media has less work to do when they try to sell us the overpopulated line.
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LowresTV 4 months ago
@AXOMME I don't belive in a conspiracy, but the need of a reduction in the world population is logic. A boat made for 10 can not carry 20.
Is ther space for more cities? Sure. Even in the places they grow crops there's space to make cities. But we can not only have cities, righ?
The problem in Spain with native popultion is particular for rich or "semi-rich" countryes like Spain, but i doesn't represent the world situation. Birht control is not the same as executing people.
LowresTV 4 months ago 3
@LowresTV THEY GONNA DO IT , you'll see... with a new virus similar to the Avian Flu
ResistenciaHumana 4 months ago 2
@ResistenciaHumana Or maybe nature raises a new disease. Sometimes the earth reacts as a whole, like an organism. The human specie is now like a plague. We are by no means "special". We are only the most dangerous animal for the balance of the planet.
LowresTV 4 months ago
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are you so naive? i can prove the Vatican and the US government is part of the NWO.
in fact, the beliefs in the NWO without prove by itself is naive and ignorant.
on the other hand, no matter what it call, be it Venus or Jupiter or whatever project, the thing you have to do is to look at the proposition and think to yourself, is it a good idea?
Creating a better society is against your wishes?
The pursuit of Happiness is not good? you are sick...
jojoinhere 1 year ago
the ZG movement says that education is a key to sustainability. an educated populace does not need control. In an interview, Jaque Fresco said there will be no need to recommend against sex.
warobsessive 1 year ago
@warobsessive But we can not keep breeding like rats.
LowresTV 4 months ago
@LowresTV people would be given the information of the resource yield of where they are and all the like. The people would make decisions based on the information. "Can I support a child? Can this area support more people? Will this environment make my child excel?" questions like that people would have to ask themselves.
warobsessive 4 months ago
@warobsessive "People" have already this information. We never had a time in wich, information was so available for a large number of people. What do you see?
People are not that rasonable. Always they expect others to make the sacrifice or decision. Look at USA. It has( I don't know now, with this crisis) the beahvior of consuming and waist half of the food produced in the world, while in large parts of the planet, people doesn't have even clean water. Don't have much faith in humankind.
LowresTV 4 months ago
lol you ruined the Thrillseekers' remix =(
TVPchallenge 1 year ago
Those are some nice building. when do i get to see them.
romanemp1985 1 year ago
The argument for "Reducing poulation" is so hypocritical.
there is nothing more detremental to the human population than the current socio-economic system we live in today, where 3rd of the world's food is being dumped. food that could easily provide for the world hungry popuation.
This argument can only be made by one who thinks there is not enough to go around and so prefers how resources are currently distributed. this reveals one's selfish motive for gain, no matter how it effect others
jodagm 1 year ago
The argument for "Reducing the poulation" is so hypocritical.
there is nothing more detremental to the human population than the current socio-economic system we live in today, where 3rd of the world's food is being dumped. food that could easily provide for the world hungry popuation.
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Bad video. People like you are indirectly responsible for a lot more years of starvation, poverty, killings and pollution. By doing this sort of nonsense video you and others are working against the Zeitgeist Movement objectives and are participating on the elite's agenda. The Bilderberg group, the Rockefellers and all that represent the monetary system are very proud of you.
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DvineGaming 1 year ago 5
@DvineGaming Fuck yea! thats all you need. Why have anymore than 2 anyway? Maybe the NWO wont kill us all..just make us all sterile.
MrDoobious 9 months ago
@DvineGaming since not once in 6th months did anyone comment on your post, I will take that 'honor'. You do know that many cupples choose not to have kids at all, and most who do have kids limmit it to two. And how is having 3 kids in a family (from two adults) going to reduce the population? One child families would reduce it at an okay rate, but do you want this to turn out like China? Youre on to somthing tho, population control. The government is poising our water in attampt to sterilize us.
AkumaxTamashii 6 months ago
@AkumaxTamashii I was saying if all the families only had 3 children, then there would be less because in a lot of Asia there are families of 10 and more.
DvineGaming 6 months ago
@DvineGaming well that will be kinda hard to make all of asia go from 10+ kids to only 3. The NWO realized that so they have been trying to steralize the population. They should really put more emphasis on adoption. Have as many kids as you want! As long as they wernt born into your family.
AkumaxTamashii 6 months ago
Being totally honest when I watched Moving forward I thought "wow this is a NWO dreamland" adn yesterday while I was very stoned I thought "get off my face pink elephants... wait doesn't peter joseph represent new era Jesus?" truth is this dude, if this is what the New world order is offering, I am up for it, you do not need to reduce population you just have to become concious that increase must be stopped by consensus,5 years with a reduce birth rate will do the trick... learn more.
10baseer 1 year ago
Reducing population?? How stupid.
rampant1010 1 year ago
dude you are confusing your sh*t, don't make false similarities. the Z movement HAS NEVER mentioned reducing the population, you are looking at the georgia monolith thingy that has been there like 20 yrs. or something. Don't confuse people, get your facts straight if not then i kindly ask of you my noble sir (assuming you are a man) to please go ahead and take a sh*t!!
thank you for your time!
lejavie 1 year ago 3
@lejavie dont know if this comment was aimed at me, but if it was why does peter joseph actually say i wont be having kids because the way we are going we cannot sustain the population and that it will be out of balance with the rest of the planet, if we continue using the current systems and beliefs (big family's) he is not saying to de populate but to change our thinking of everyone needs kids and the whole family thing. i cant say i agree with a selective breeding, but what choice do we have?
youbriggs 1 year ago
you are right about the music. the message is clear enough, real or not real, that b grade slasher movie sound takes something away from it, and steers it in a direction that makes you think "Gimme a break"
flydog7777 1 year ago
you bet buddy, too many people means not enough resources, which leads to wars over water and food, just like the jungles of Africa. Only when more evolved species go to war its to exterminate their competiton on an bigger scale and they are over the tipping point so be ready for mass extinction thru virus or chemical spill or both. Too many humans = somebody has to go, and believe it wont be a matter of what your religious beliefs are only that you're another mouth we cant feed. Wake up people
libertyman0033 1 year ago
ES UNA MENTIRA PRODUCIDA POR LA ONU...... DESPIERTA!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOMEOPATICWOMAN 1 year ago
WELL WHO HERE HAS A BETTER IDEA OR CONCEPT THAN THE VENUS PROJECT! Well come on. easy to sit back and judge someone who is making an effort. most conspiracy theorists have bad paranoia it seems. and the truths they find that doesn't go with their previous beliefs will be disregarded. keep the monetary system then and keep breeding see what that brings and what it will do for human rights. Logic anyone?
youbriggs 1 year ago
@youbriggs breeding is a bad thing?
Phersephoie 1 year ago
@Phersephoie LOL, well not the act! maybe i should of said over populating.
youbriggs 1 year ago
@Phersephoie mm maybe breeding unconcious of the whole it is, animals know it naturally, but our true nature has been ripped apart.
10baseer 1 year ago
If you really want to give us info then don't try doing in a way to put fear in us by putting that stupid music behind it. Because to me, all your showing me is exactly what your telling me they are doing
asorita1 1 year ago
I don't know but, I think that if "THEY" wanted us dead, then they could kill us. I think the chemtrails are true but, maybe they are trying to help out the environment the best way they can. Putting aluminum on strips to redirect the sun because of global warming? I mean come on, at least they are trying to keep us from burning up from the sun. If they were trying to kill us then why would they waste money on that?
asorita1 1 year ago
Then I stayed away for a few days to gather my thoughts and really think about what it was all about and I realized, Isn't it always the ones who cry wolf that are the perpetrators? The ones who point the finger always have three pointing right back at them.
asorita1 1 year ago
why do you have the music behind it? Is it to make it more dramatic so, we will feel like this is more of a sense of urgency? Of all these videos that I have watched regarding these types of issues, chemtrails, NWO, manipulation, fear, control, It seems to me that you people are the ones who are trying to put the fear into us instead of them! I watches all this and then I walked away scared so bad that I was crying and shaking.
asorita1 1 year ago
"The natural condition of nations is a state of perpetual war of all against all, where no morality exists, and everyone lives in constant fear,"
depro9 1 year ago
This video is deliberate disinformation. It is in stark contrast to what TVP envisions for humanity. Please educate yourself before distributing this fairy tale.
FarahWonderland7 1 year ago
its pretty hilarious, i find, that the NWO is always portrayed as this monolithic beast created by government destined to enslave us, and yet they claim an underground grass roots movement is bringing this on??
smcinstosh9 1 year ago
I fail to see the connection here. The only 'manipulation' is by the creator of this video. TVP does not state that the global population will have to be reduced. The UN may have, but, if anything, that proves that TVP are NOT in league with the UN, as TVP implicitly states that there is enough food and resources on earth for everyone, as it stands now! Also, TVP wants the monetary system and politics abolished... so what government is there to tell anyone what resources they can or can't have?
bbwoolfy 1 year ago 29
@bbwoolfy can i ask if tvp abolishes politics, how is it going to be run, organised etc? It was never really clear to me when i saw it.
Phersephoie 1 year ago
@Phersephoie It will be run with reasoning, common sense and science. No laws, no hierarchies and no egoism.
Koniuji 1 year ago
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BlingElements 1 year ago
@bbwoolfy .....You ARE a dUMBASS you really need to watch the 2 first parts of this video . the boicot against the finantial institutions & the banks was part of the crissis in 2009 ,,
and Zeitgesit was involved ...
search also for this : How The U.S. Government Engineered The Current Economic Crisis
Research it
BlingElements 1 year ago
@bbwoolfy The "VENUS" project, venus is also a representation of lucifer; the nwo spiritual leader that will abolish all religions and nations, this is pure ocultism, for us to worship the devil
FlaiteOne 1 year ago
@FlaiteOne NOT TRUE , the name "VENUS" in venus project come from the fact the project location is in Venus, Florida ( you don't need a brain to figure that out) =p 100% debunked
yxrcbszg 1 year ago
@yxrcbszg thats what they want u to think, i dont really think theyd name such a big project after a location lol, even jacques calls for sun worship in one of he's interviews, its paganism at its best
FlaiteOne 1 year ago
@FlaiteOne you are the second person to tell me "thats what they want u to think" that doesn't really helps me understand the evil plot behind the Venus project, just making a excuse because you don't have all the facts and saying that the Venus project is only named "Venus" because of an evil bogeyman is like saying a German Sherpard or a Siberian Husky isn't given that name because where it species came from no by some evil Lucifian Conspiracy behind there names. (no proof, no positive)
yxrcbszg 1 year ago
@yxrcbszg Zeitgeist is gnostic satanism (atleast the religious part) most of their sources come from works of freemasons such as albert pike, manly p hall, he took all that christ bullshit from a book named The christ conspiracy written by Acharia S a luciferian who's book was a rip off of a Helena Blabatsky's book called isis unveiled, helena blabatsky was a well known luciferian who funded the theosophycal society, zeitgeist takes info from jordan maxwell friend of 33rddegree masons,theresmore
FlaiteOne 1 year ago
@bbwoolfy ...KEEP DREAMING Buddy .. Im so sad and disapointed because people refuses to see and to face the reality , scape from or deny it won't make things better ZM CP UN Programs New Age Masiive movements and other shits are not a real solution if they were i would be with them also supporting them but for people is more easy to follow what they like instead of make the right stuff
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago
@bbwoolfy OF COURSE THEY DON'T did you really spect them to openly state their true intentions ??? or that they would say sometimes we are part of the NWO indoctrination ..? Of course not ,, but they work still is part of the new age agenda and the New World programs , as well as the UN programs MAKE A REAL RESEARCH before to say something about this serious situation , the NWO is rea
l and it will be implanted very soon if more naive people keep supporting their strategies
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago
@bbwoolfy IN THE REAL NWO , the government and politics are obsollet the world resourses will be owned by the GLOBAL TECHNOCRATIC STATE thats why they need the economyc system and the actual internacional politics to collapse
read please the atlantis future origins of the nwo and a book called the Georgia stone guide's true creators
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago 6
@bbwoolfy 'Externalising the Hierarchy' for Mme Blatavsky depends on LOTS of people being clueless, Atheist and easily influenced. See my channel blurb TVP & TZM are corporate arms of Govt Global Agenda -- SEE last link on my channel text. 'Rockerfeller Womens Lib' -
which shows how manipulative greedy bankers will seed ideas in media to look as if 'organic' movements 'indie grassroots'. - Rockefellers goal wasnt 'liberation' but ENSLAVEMENT & TAXATION of the other 50% homebodys DITTO TZM
IdaSputum 4 months ago
If we succeed in switching to a RBE, we could sustain many more people than are currently on this planet. Because we'd apply the most efficient and durable technology currently available. The effect would be an abundance of energy - geothermal, wind, tidal and solar energy.
This video is about a conspiracy theory, because all the sources cited in the description do not make the link with TVP or the Zeitgeist movement. Thumbs up if you agree!
Ausermac 1 year ago
In order to bring in these systems, promising peace and happiness for all.. there will first huge, wars because not everyone will be on board... So they'll have to get rid of all the "backwards thinkers" that are holding the human race back. basically a lot of people are going to have to be off'd (in the name of peace). This is no different then what "religious nuts" do. This is a frightening road to go down.
tharemedybeats 1 year ago
@tharemedybeats Are you assuming that the Zeitgeist movement is inherently violent?
Ausermac 1 year ago
The all knowing central data base makes all decisions in their world as humans are inferior to machines according to them. There are biological humans on this planet who do not have souls. They call themselves Trans-humanists. They do not understand that data is not the same thing as knowledge or wisdom and they never will.
disclosurenow9 1 year ago
@disclosurenow9 That's a rather arrogant statement saying that "they never will (know)". Can you explain to me the difference between 'data', 'information' and 'wisdom'? I know of nobody in the Zeitgeist movement that fits the definition of trans-humanist, so you can help me out there.
To be correct you'd have to say that computers can automate decisions. Computers are in a sense stupid in that they only execute what you program them to do. They act as an extension of our insights.
Ausermac 1 year ago
The NWO, by all reports, seeks to centralize all things, including all governments into one global government. TVP/TZM seek to decentralize everything. Bringing all human activity back down to the community level, with no government, no laws, no money, and no perceived need to control anyone or anything.
A properly designed society needs no laws or paper proclamations to prop it up. Any society which needs laws, has a much deeper problem gnawing at its roots.
frankleeseaux 1 year ago
Someone commented @ me but i cnt see it so all i shall say is "Oh Ignorance is bliss, Pitty the fool who aims to indulge in this own ignorance"
Thegreyraccoon 1 year ago
You says "THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY ¡ THIS IS REAL" depends what you are refering to: your video or NWO as a whole. If it is this video then it is plain bullshit.
Ofcourse NWO is conspiracy, it is not even a theory it is hypothesis. Conspiracy hypothesis.
SFLegacy 1 year ago
Instead of watch this obsolutely pointless videos, start reading books and start to develop critical thinking.
This video is wishy washy, at least put in the effort when you try to expose something. 6 minutes of poorly defined arguments.
In Venus society there is no goverment an no authoritism - it is social anarchism. To create a GLOBAL society on the bases of social anarchism is virtual impossible - too much of a parasgm shift. Hence, I dont think Venus Project will work.
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SFLegacy 1 year ago
never ever ever ever allow all the nations of the world to become 1..theres a chance that will be a good thing..but mostly NOT!..open your eyes people..that is not a good idea!..
fermerwuvu 1 year ago
Hate the video, very untrue and the TZM and TVP has nothing do with the RBEF , but what is the name of the song playing in the background, it is nice lol
RBEconcepts 1 year ago
Awake 311...I think it is time for change... The planet is overpopulated. Yes, it is sad that genocide is factored in. We all must die sooner or later. Is it right to kill slowly. The people and planet need harmony. This is not so far fetched. My problem is "WHO DECIDES. " I say "Who soever calls themselves elite or wise or consider themselves above all. Hoarders of Vanity and Greed, Rulers and Leaders surely will have there just reward".
switchtech2000 1 year ago
Starving, freezing, broke, drugged into a stupor. Washingtons plan for America. Two down two to go. philipnute com
zsezse215 1 year ago 2
this is BULLSHIT...simple as that...if you are not well informed about it...just shut up....
esto es pura mentira, esta persona no tiene ninguna base para hablar de una economia basada en recursos.... es pura mentira lo que dice este video.....
hay que informarse antes de hablar
deividzeitgeist 1 year ago
Paranoid delusions, how pathetic... Take some more lithium before checking under your bed for the boogie man. I bet if the maker of this clip were to ask him mother at what age did he finish potty training, she'd probably reply with an approximate age of 8 years old. Oh, and the KGB are not coming to get you either...
dawnstory69 1 year ago
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I went to the zeitgeist official discussion group. The coordinator likened democracy to "10 white men hanging a black man" not as high minded as I would have expected. That is the attitude. That some poor white red-neck like 'me' is the enemy. It was the most racially brutal thing I have heard all year and I live in the deep south. When are they going to stop using southern white men as a anything but a dead horse to beat. Their 'enemy'. Come visit Memphis before your abuse
GreenCrooksApts 1 year ago
This is absolute garbage.
KaleRay93 1 year ago
@KaleRay93 The Venus Project On The Edge (10-1/09) Part 9
minute 2 : 32
are you in favor of reducing the population of the planet Jacque¿?Fresco: No by force, by education.
That means u dont have any rights to decide how many children u want to have. He also said freedom of speach is dangerous cuz make trouble.. in part 5 or 6... listen the whole interview if u want and compare the 2 systems... ARE ALMOST THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR THE MONEY PART!- and srry for my english im from argentina. u.u
NoTraiciones 1 year ago
@NoTraiciones
You're a damned fool. He never once said you wouldn't be free to have as many kids as you want, but you would be smart enough to be environmentally conscience. If you were smart, you'll have less kids (as most industrialized countries already show this trend) but if you're a spear-chucking disease ridden creature from the other side of the globe, unprotected sex is just fine because its all that is around. Every claim you've made in this video is false. Absolutely false.
KaleRay93 1 year ago
@KaleRay93 yeah sure, thats why my country have less populations and less aids and deseases than USA, becouse we dont think u.u, Sure, thats why Ted Turner buyed lands in the south of my country.. cuz is so insecure and contaminated that is almost hell... hahahaha... What they make u belive happens in other parts of the planet that arent United States, isnt completly the truth, u know?. This dude planet have abundance for all, now he change his mind aparently
NoTraiciones 1 year ago 2
@NoTraiciones... LoL
Throughthetruth 1 year ago
WFT is this video trying to prove?
mink33 1 year ago
This has NOTHING to do ith "Zeitgeist" but in fact the oppositte!
Zeitgeist says No "money" based economy anymore. No more "isms" Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, etc..Give rights back to the people, let them think; apart from the Structures and Systems that have been fed to us from cradle to grave. This includes all Systems Political, Educational, Religious, etc...Get the facts, don't go by this sham of a production. These people want to deceive you into thinking its all part of the same.
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
Neither Peter Joseph of ZM nor anyone associated with the Venus Project advocates radical population reduction (= mass murder on a global scale). There may or may not be other things problematic about VP/ZM, but this preposterous crap is NOT one of 'em!
MCP2012 1 year ago
@MCP2012 Thank You! Iv'e been trying to spread the word on these deceitful websites that accuse the Zeitgeist movement of doing that. lazy people just won't watch it for themselves and make up their own minds.
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
@atlasshrugged2u U're very welcome! As I said, there *may* well be *other* problems with some of the VP/ZM's proposals. But it is preposterous, "loony-toons" CRAP to purport that they at all whatsoever advocate radical (or even not-so-radical) population reduction!! There is simply NOTHING whatsoever---ZERO!!---in any VP/ZM stuff that I've seen that even hints at this or could at all be construed to imply this!! So WHY is this inane CRAP being spread?! Do ur homework, people!!
MCP2012 1 year ago
@MCP2012 I know this thing is gona get big and possibly ugly as the years go on. I am an oxy moron myself because I do believe in God and have my own personal relationship with Him. I do not and never have believed in organized Religion and knew something was wrong even as a young child. However "Zeitgeist" is a welcome change and a breath of fresh air, and I fully support it and will continue because we need something to "light a fire" under the asses of people to get them to THINK. It's time
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
What is the point of this video?
Synarious 1 year ago
To the NWO group, "resource based economy" means everything for them, nothing for the rest of humanity; even after they decimate the populations of the earth. Any humans left will be the NWO slaves. Oh yes, there will be peace simply because no one will have the freedom or the strength to resist being a slave.
olga2415 1 year ago 5
@olga2415 on which planet do you live ?
jesusinshort 1 year ago
@jesusinshort I live in reality on Planet Earth.
olga2415 1 year ago
@olga2415 There is NOTHING at all whatsoever in the ZM/VP literature/vids/radiotalks that at all whatsoever supports this!! ZERO! Now, while there **may** be problems with replacing (or obviating) the (basic economic) **functions** of **money**, & also, depending on how it's done, with most sorts of central planning (see Hayek/Mises on monetary calculation & the probs of centralized socialism), what U state **here**, is, with all due respect, sheer, unmitigated, BULLSHIT!! Do ur homework!!
MCP2012 1 year ago
@MCP2012 No, you do YOUR homework. Haven't you ever been exposed to the technique of having certain writers, etc. who secretly support a concept actually write articles against it? It is a tactical way to convey the idea that an issue is being debated from all sides, effectively excluding other writers who might propose more effective solutions than the writer emplaced to create the illusion. I guess this is beyond your comprehension. Public perception is being molded. Period. It's an old game.
olga2415 1 year ago
@olga2415 "I guess this is beyond your comprehension." Thanks, Olga! Actually, tho, I think I DO comprehend that (as difficult as*that* *might* be for U to comprehend...), but what *evidence* do u have to support ur conjecture (= accusation). Now, VP/ZM may well have some quasi-Marxian/Veblenesque/Technocratic problems, especially from a Hayekian/Misesian (say) perspective. But it's nonetheless the case that we CAN accomplish much or all of the VP/ZM agenda. Ur thoughts?
MCP2012 1 year ago
@MCP2012 Well, honestly, I do not presume to know what solutions to offer to anything created by a pack of lies, disinformation, and misinformation by govt. types. Solutions require that the information utilized or acted upon be accurate; and since most of mankind's problems are caused by a pack of lies, there can be no solution. This is why mankind is where we are today. Too many lies; too much government; too many minions; too many sychophants to govt.; too much greed. Too little humanity.
olga2415 1 year ago
@olga2415 Or, upon 2nd reading of ur post here, am I misunderstanding the thrust of ur remark?! I'd **concur** w/u that the Rockefeller/Rothschild/CFR/Bilderberger bankster-fascist "power elite(s)" do indeed want what Tony de Jasay aptly calls a global PLANTATION, a NEO-*FEUDALISM*. BUT, this is precisely the OPPOSITE of what VP/ZM advocates!! No, again, there may be problems with VP/ZM, but its being secretly allied with or a "front" for NWO banksters is **NOT** one of 'em!! Best wishes...
MCP2012 1 year ago
@olga2415 I concur w/u in ur view of what it is the NWO bankster-fascists want to transform the world into. The want a global PLANTATION with them as the massas & the rest of us serfs (slaves, peons). But what evidence do u have that VP/ZM r even unwittingly (much less knowingly) "fronts" or "shills" for the NWO crowd?! They may well be (tho for the time being I doubt it), but what/where's the evidence?! Looking forward to ur reply, as always...
MCP2012 1 year ago
@MCP2012 There can be no dependable "evidence" to any of this due to the degree of disinformation and misinformation put out. There is not one of us alive on the earth that can know for CERTAIN the truth of ANY issue. In the interest of extreme caution, however, I trust no one and nothing put out by anyone in govt. [even the so-called "leaks"] LOL
olga2415 1 year ago
You show the Resource Based Economy Foundation? Now I know you haven't done proper research, the RBEF & RBOSE are both splinter groups that decided to as they put it "do what we won't." They have a rather derogatory disposition towards the ZM actually. In fact they both are very arrogant when you read their blogs & what not. They still demand from TZM an apology & an open collaboration with them & Peter J has already said "If you think RBOSE has anything to do with TZM your way off."
GalinorGustave 1 year ago
THEY like to show themselves and their future plans in subliminal messages , symbols or music tv shows & movies
I recommend everyone to watch this : THE SIMPSONS MOVIE NWO
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana
All I see is picture put together. No facts!! To point out your view.....SO if you can show us the connection. Some form of documents or maybe video. Showing the connection between NWO and ZM & TVP. But all I see is pictures NO FACTS
unloquito 1 year ago
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@ResistenciaHumanaInterestingmovement:I went to the zeitgeist official discussion group.The coordinator likened democracy to10 white men hanging a black man" not as high minded as I would have expected.That is the attitude. That white red-neck like 'me' is the enemy.It was the most racially brutal thing I have heard all year and I live in the deep south.When are they going to stop using southern white men as a anything but a dead horse to beat.Their 'enemy'. Come visit Memphis before your abuse
GreenCrooksApts 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana , There is nothing NWO about the Venus Project. They advocate no money and no government. When you hear political leaders/dictators talking about financial reform,, they mean just that. They have no plans of outgrowing the monetary system or systems of control. In fact, they wish to tighten their grips. Overpopulation is a myth, which is NOT perpetuated by the Zeitgeist Movement, or the Venus Project. There is nothing elitist about the VP or the ZM, who advocate an RBE.
frankleeseaux 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana .. I'm sorry to say this, but this is just embarrassing! There is no reason in pointing fingers and claiming others to be wrong if you don't have a solution or an alternative to present..
further more you claim "i was with the VP since the begining then i realize of the true agenda , their hidden intentions and their manipulation agenda" funny thing is that you are only 26, which needless to say, means that you have been with the V.project since many years before your birth
PhiltyDan 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana.. I'm sorry to say this, but this is just embarrassing! There is no reason in pointing fingers and claiming others to be wrong if you don't have a solution or an alternative to present.
further more you claim "i was with the VP since the begining then i realize of the true agenda , their hidden intentions and their manipulation agenda" funny thing is that you are only 26, which needless to say, means that you have been with the V.project since many years before your birth
PhiltyDan 1 year ago
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@ResistenciaHumana.. I'm sorry to say this, but this is just embarrassing! There is no reason in pointing fingers and claiming others to be wrong if you don't have a solution or an alternative to present..
further more you claim "i was with the VP since the begining then i realize of the true agenda , their hidden intentions and their manipulation agenda" funny thing is that you are only 26, which needless to say, means that you have been with the V.project since many years before your birth
PhiltyDan 1 year ago
@ResistenciaHumana Only a Conspiracy Theorist can look at a episode of the Simpsons and believe their a secret message about 9/11 in it
yxrcbszg 1 year ago
if i saw this video before i saw Aeon flux i would say is bull shit, but, you guys have to watch Aeon Flux is practically the something, a virus destroys 90% of the earth and they create some little city in the forest, were everyone lives in harmony, i deffo recommend you watching it, then re analysing VP and those people who say that resources are meant of everyone ofc that is true however what is not true is that everyone will be equal,because there will always be a group incharge
Thegreyraccoon 1 year ago 37
Thanks for the info i haven't heard about Aeon Flux anyway there has been a lot of Hollywood movies lately about viruses and end of humanity , as well as several new age films about the end of the age and a new civilitation & movies like Avatar , 2012 Movie and also series like Life after People from the American HISTORY CHANNEL the most intriguing is that all these people likes to show their future plans in >>continue Below
ResistenciaHumana 1 year ago 8
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Wow B -I -Z -A -R R -E , something is happening there is not doubt about it
but In order to understand the all real scenario you have to know everything about everything specially about the new age and the masonic nwo ..they 're in everywhere and literally in everything including the United Nations Org & and the EU,
both EU and the UN spread the new age system world wide
atravezdelaverdad 1 year ago
@Thegreyraccoon , would you seriously believe a myth based on an animated series from MTV, which was later adapted into a movie? The series was so disjointed and disconnected from even its own self, that it made little or no sense. The movie took a bunch of disjointed cartoons and turned them into a semi coherent movie for entertainment and profit alone. If there is, in fact, a NWO, then it consists of bankers, politicians, and super rich billionaires, NOT members of a grassroots movement.
frankleeseaux 1 year ago
@frankleeseaux Please, why do you think media is one of the largest propaganda tools every created ?
Thegreyraccoon 1 year ago
@Thegreyraccoon , Why? Or how? Why, would be because they are owned by those major corporations. There may have been a time when one could rely on honesty from the media. However, those days are long past since the major media buy outs by major corporations, many of which have investors from the large banking institutions.
frankleeseaux 1 year ago
@frankleeseaux i think you missed the point of my comment sorry, Well the main point was the pre-conditioning.
Thegreyraccoon 1 year ago
@Thegreyraccoon , Could you please clarify this? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "pre-conditioning."
frankleeseaux 1 year ago
@frankleeseaux Search for it one youtube you will see.
Thegreyraccoon 1 year ago
@Thegreyraccoon , that hardly counts as clarification, since you didn't even suggest what I should be looking for. Should I be looking for pre-conditioning, or media as a propaganda machine, or little dainty flowers?
frankleeseaux 1 year ago