Remember that the P51 (amazing plane) wing was designed by a German living in USA. Rolls engines reliability is what made that plane a success other with its dogfight abilities.
Did you see the plane start to pull to the left soon after take off? This was a problem that was resolved in the hands of a pilot familiar with the plane and in up-modeled editions. What a beauty that butch bird is!
This replica is patterned after the A-8 series, that last A series except for a few A-9. There were no more before the longnose D series. What control problem are you referring to? This was the first test hop for the new replica.
Russian designed, Chinese manufactured ASh-82 14-cylinder radial. The Fw190 replica project had a goal of an affordable warbird kit for interested buyers that would still be easy to service and repair. The ASh-82 engine is in good supply and is similar in size, weight, and power as the original BMW801 engine. The rarity of the original BMW motors and the great expensive in building one to flyable condition is why this project chose the ASh-82 engine.
@FiveCentsPlease Do you know what the price of an original working BMW801 radial engine would be? Whew!, i'd bet you it would be a pretty penny! Even one in servicable, but not running, condition must be sought after by collectors. I bet you that new engine you have isn't air cooled....correct?
It's not my airplane, this is the prototype. The ASh-82 is an air-cooled 14-cylinder radial, same as the original BMW. The BMW had supplemental force-air cooling with a geared fan. These replicas have a cooling fan mounted to back of the propeller but some owners have removed that. Regarding BMW prices, I have no numbers to provide for you and the price would depend on the original condition. Even an unused new engine would still need a very expensive overhaul to go flying.
@FiveCentsPlease Wow! I would have bet my left testee that it wasn't air-cooled! I thought, if memory serves me right (getting older) that the original radial had a fan in the back to cool the engine. I wonder if thise Chineese engines are copies/knock-offs of the original radial engines. Thanks for the info!
The BMW cooling fan was geared off of the front of the engine to rotate at 3x propeller speed. The Russian/Chinese ASh-82 has roots in the Wright Cyclone engines that were license-built in Russia, but it sometimes incorrectly described as a "copy" of the BMW, which it is not.
Not many original 801's out there still running. This bird is powered by the Chinese copy of the Russian Ash-82. Which itself is an upgraded M-25, which was a copy of the R-1920 Cyclone...
Why build a new FW-190? It has no historical value, its flight characteristics will no doubt be different from the original, and it antagonizes those who have a conscience. And by the way: where's the Iron Cross and the swastikas? Funny how this is supposed to be a replica and the very symbols of its origin - easy to replicate - are left off? Why? Oh yes; as with the rest of this plane, it's in extraordinarily bad taste...
Guess you really like attention since you keep showing up in yet ANOTHER video just to threadjack the comments with your personal bias. And now we can all sit back and watch when your comments are inevitably challenged, you will degrade this thread to petty insults because you cannot support your arguments. Just so we're all clear on that fact from the start. Cue up your Topf & Soehne ovens arguments in 3..2..1....
And you've just proven my point. The vile racist comments you have been tossing out in other threads is particularly disturbing coming from someone holding the rest of us to such a high moral standard. It looks as though you are what you profess to despise.
You must be really unhappy with your life today since you're being particularly curt. F**kface? C'mon I thought you were more articulate than that. Tsk tsk.....
Lol this beerosterm is annoying everyone in other comment areas as well. He has no arguments, keeps telling everyone the same bs.. just a low-life with no knowledge whatsoever.
One of the replica 190 A's raced at the Reno Air Races this year. was neat to see that aircraft fly in Sundays Bronze race with a Yak 3, F4U , FM-2 Wildcat, P-51 and a T-28..Hope to see more of these fly in the future.
No, this is the prototype of 20 new aircraft. One of the others ended up in the ocean during practice and the cause is thought to be a prop failure. It's already out of the water and being rebuilt. Actually two have crashed but I don't know the cause of the second accident other than it looks like a ground-loop.
@Heidelager Its obvious. Use your brain and your eyes. The British patented the first jet, yet the Germans get the credit for producing the 'first' workable prototypes. the Jumo engines in the Messerschmitt's were hellishly unreliable anyway. Further, the fanboy bullshit about Hitler delaying development is nonsense. they couldn't produce reliable enough engines before the autumn 1944 anyway.
@DannyBoy777777 My brains and eyes tell me the Germans had a fully operational and very effective jet that shot the sh#t (and shocked the sh#t) out of everything it came up against in 1945). Yours is a piss poor attempt at a waving the British flag. The Germans were (and still are) all over you poms in terms of engineering and technological know-how. That is the only obvious. :)
@Heidelager then they're lying to you. Me 262 losses were huge. Allied pilots picked them off on take-off and landing and their combat record was average to say the least. Superior? Sound ranging? Radar? Breaking the Enigma code? Ignorant fuck. To the contrary, yours if a shit attempt to prove German superiority - a complete myth since the aforementioned were copied by the Germans. Cunt.
@DannyBoy777777 Your a somewhat unsavoury and unintelligent person who resorts in the first instance to profanity. I won't be wasting any effort at any serious discussion with you. You obviously have something unbalanced "upstairs" noting your highly emotional retort. Did your UK grandfather perhaps cop something up his #rse at Dunkirk while he was scrabbling in the French sand to run away? :)
@DannyBoy777777 what, shot himself did he? :) Might explain your demented hatred if that were the case. Your a very angry little man aren't you Dannyboy? There's obviously a little psychopathology behind all that built up hatred. Tell you what my friend. Go have a little "tug" of the old fellow. :) It might relieve a bit of your tension.
@Heidelager If you understand what psychopathology was, or was someone who possessed a doctorate, you would not keep refering to these sexual obsessions. Perhaps it is you that needs relief. Why don't you try your sister, thats what they do in the southern states isn't it? Then attend cross burnings? Then expound how 'grate' the Germanic races are on the internet. I think I have exposed you for what you are. Oops. I shouldn't have used the word 'exposed'. Its propbably got you salivating.
@DannyBoy777777 ROFL You a phd? Your iliterate! Its "if you understand what psychopathology IS" (not was). Its "...it is you WHO (not that) needs relief". Its "great" (not grate). Its "probably" (not propbably).
Your not simply making spelling typos. You can't write!!! ROFL. Have you even finished high school my learned friend? ROFL Your better than a clown. PLEASE respond. This is what I love about youtube...... baiting simpletons like you!!! Your my daily humour!!! LOL
@Heidelager Its you're "iliterare!" not "your iliterate!" You twat. So I'll return the baiting nonsense in kind. Obvious typos are no indication of illiteracy. 'Grate' was but in inverted commas to indicate a spelling error because there was no more room you fool. And again.... its "You're my daily humour" not Your. 'LOL'
@Heidelager Furthermore, Mr Germanophilic fan boy idiot; "fully operational"? Look up the definition. Me 262s were not 'fully' operational. Fifty percent of the pilots killed were so by engine failure. The Gloster Meteor never suffered such problems of overheating, and mechanical breakdowns. The same goes for the German tanks designs. Go back to school you idiot.
@DannyBoy777777 Yours is a poor, poor, poor attempt at trying to promote a little UK military ingenuity. You don't do your country any service at all in the manner in which you attempt this. A message is only as good as the credibility of the messenger. You my friend, are a very poor messenger. Tanks? :) Did the Brits have anything better than their WW1 prototypes? :) I won't waste my time. German tank, jet, rocket etc advancement is established fact. Your simply an unbalanced ranting lunatic.
@Heidelager No, I don't think so. You're an agenda-driven (probabaly) Nazi fan boy. At the very least a Germanophilic twat. I havn't attempted, I've done so. German tanks? Please. Unreliable. Expensive and timeconsuming to build. The Germans didn't understand that in an industrial war of attrition its decent quality and numbers that win, not technically sophsticated BUT unreliable weapons. I'm through educating idiots like you. I'm going back to complete my PhD.
@DannyBoy777777 Nazi? Me? LOL How little you know but I have no interest in enlightening you as to how wrong you could possibly be. My only reason for replying is to laugh at your poor attempt at trying to gain credibility. Why tell me about your little Phd project? Is that meant to somehow impress me? ROFL Half my colleagues including myself have that little bit of paper. Yours though is probably coming from Bombay! And a Phd in "fiddling with yourself" perhaps? ROFL Your a laugh! Thanks!!!!
@Heidelager 'ROFL', barking like a dog? Your the demented one - if ever you though my esteem was so low that I needed to justify myself from a dimwitted, Nazi fanboy know nothing on the internet. Your breathtaking ignorance is whats funny. And you have a PhD? I think not. Your constant referrals to to masterbation says far more about you than me. Perhaps its an obssession, or the only kind a suxual pleasure you can have.
@DannyBoy777777 It's ".....justify myself TO (not from) a dimwitted .....". And it's "sexual" (not suxual) my dimwitted friend. As for your attempt at insult........ :) ....... not even worth a response other than to same LAME. ROFL (like roll on the floor laughing at a simpleton trying real hard to appear educated but is instead dumb as dogsh#t). :)
As I said in an earlier post, a message is only as good as the messenger. Your credibility is fast sinking my learned (NOT) English friend.
@Heidelager Take it into the playground at recess boys. Nice language. YouTube allows all ages to view these videos, so both of you grow up and stop the nonsense about your imaginary doctorate degrees. My Lord. Pathetic.
Heidelager - not sure why you think you have anything to boast about being German. You gave it 2 tries and lost both. Grow up. Your engineers are no better than the Brits or the Yanks. I've been to school with both - the Germans are not unique in any way.
@TheMiseryGuts You own posts don't give you any pulpit to preach from. I'd suggest you take yourself out to the playground and keep your nose out of our little shenanigans. If you want to buy in, by all means. Just don't try the dishonesty of the squeaky clean nun charade.
@DannyBoy777777 lol, you don't know me. Yes, I use Wikipedia all the time, when it's appropriate. You don't? I also use expert knowledge, professional journals, books, and the documentary record when appropriate. That's just common sense. Some Wiki stuff is very well sourced and some is nonsense, you can't make a general judgement about it, only a fool....ahhhh I see. You idiots also love the logical fallacy, I see.
@wildhippy So I do know you. Expert knowledge? Like what? Journals? Like what? And for your information, sources used on wikipedia are open to interpretation. For example, how do know the spotty cretin that wrote a certain sentence is honest? Lets say, "Mr expert of Bf 09s", Uwe Feist for example, is quoted "the 109 was faster than the Me 262 at certain altitudes" is telling the truth? What idiot would take it as red.... only the cretins that bother to read it in the first place. And no, I don't
@wildhippy The bottom line is, wildhippy, trippy, whatever, is that you have no brain. This why you defend the illogical. Your admission to using wikipedia, under any circumstances, says it all. And your pathetic retort to TheMiseryGuts turns you into the out of your depth twit you are. Please engage him further, just for my amusement. I'm a historian, an aviation historian with publications to my credit. More than enough to deal with your crap.
@wildhippy Yeah, right. You are barking up the wrong tree.
I taught aeronautics when in grad school. My Aero/Astro MS thesis was focused on 'frequency damping of complex structures' in control dynamics. What is 'your' engineering background?
@TheMiseryGuts Appeal to authority is a fallacy of defective induction, where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative.
@Heidelager No. Its quite correct to right "from". "Fast sinking", you "mean sinking fast", really not "real hard". "You own posts". Pft. Furthermore, you have proven yourslef out of depth in discussion about military hardware, as has effortlessly been proven. So like the other guy says, take your sexual perversions, misguided Germanophilic obsessions, and make like a hare.
@wildhippy Please. And what sort of Germanophilic bull shit do you have to offer thicko? "Er, I fink dat dur German were supt-perior" (laughs like a demented pratt). I've studied military history, I'd know far more than I thicko dick like you could possible comprehend in a life time. DICK.
actually JohnQuincyAdams1 ,,the USA drew on the 190's design when they made the F8 Bearcat....Grummans engineers admired the 190 and used many of of its features
I recall watching some interviews with some WW2 German Aces on the History Channel. Several claimed to prefer the FW-190 over the Bf-109. They claimed the Focke-Wulf was easier to land (wider distance between wheels), and the cockpit had better all-around vision. I'm sure some probably felt otherwise.
I think you play too much IL-2 ..And sturmovik was a 2 seater with rear gunner, much like Stuka only bit faster..U cant compare a speed machine like 190 and a sturmovik.
never played it actually. The Sturmovik was far more heavily armed than the Stuka, with machine-guns and bombs in the wings and with much heavier armour. @guthywoodry: the Tempest was a variant of the existing British generation of fighter-bombers started by the Typhoon, not based on the 190 - that's the only one I know in particular. In any case, you're hardly talking "superfighters"; what about the La-5, the Spitfire or the P-51D?
@DRAC250 actually many elements of the FW-190 were copied and put to use in the Hawker tempest. I think you underestimate just how revolutionary the 190 was.
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It is unimportant that the Germans tend to make better quality things. They surely do, and their airplanes were outstanding without doubt. But for one thing. It doesn't matter that their craftsmanship was better, considering NOBODY would have any airplanes, good or bad, had not the Wright Bros. invented them in the first place. Come to think of it, that goes for light bulbs, recorded sound, electric communication, also. American inventions in the first place. Oh, yeah--and polio vaccine too.
Silly statement, you made. The Wright brothers did not *invent* the aeroplane, but were the first to put an engine into one - manned gliders had been flying for years. If the Wrights had not done it, someone else would have - there were other inventors working on powered flight. I suggest you do a Google for "Richard Pearse" and find out how close some of those other inventors were to powered flight at the time the Wright brothers *invented* the aeroplane.
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Yeah--"if the Wright brothers hadn't, the somebody else would have". Dumb statement. Yeah, and if the Allies hadn't have won the war, then somebody else would have. And if Joe Blo hadn't been the first to scale such-and-such mountain, then somebody else would have. Terrific logic, friend.
And if Swan hadn't developed vacuum-encased filaments in 1850, Edison wouldn't have started a company to mass-produce them in 1878. huh? huh? Why aren't we talking about FW190's huh?
Oh for god's sake, here we go again. You just had to make a dick of yourself and spout on about how fucking great America is. Christ, what about all of the other 'stuff' invented elsewhere in the world. Richard Pearse, New Zealand, first powered flight! Rutherford, New Zealander, split the atom, allowing you to build more nuclear reactors. Your overblown patriotism has no place here! Oh, you fucked up the electric communication part too! France and Germany. First recorded sound, in France!
OMfucking G yourself you uncultured fool. My lessons are sound, unlike your propaganda based tosh! What, exactly, are you referring to, when you mention 'first place technic'? Go away, research, learn, hopefully from unbiased sources, before you dare to challenge those with more knowledge! Ignorant pup!
Frankwollin, quite frankly, your ignorance astounds me. We prefer to eat our sheep. While we're on the subject though, perhaps you should stop fucking close family members and give your gene pool a chance to recover. You're on a downward spiral to munterville, you ignorant hick. My research is sound. My education is sound. You embarrass yourself with your lack of intelligence.
Haha, I least I don't fuck 'em. The fart in your head seems to be manifesting itself through your keyboard. Now stop filling your mother with inadequate cum and go back to kindergarten. A basic education would help you learn the error of your ways. If you can't manage that, at least use contraception. The world does not need your offspring!
I reply in the language necessary to be understood by the fools I have to suffer when reading their pathetic comments. Do you really think I enjoy reading the 'America is coolest rule the world' retarded comments I seem to come across constantly? You want to discuss the merits of certain aircraft, fine, I'll engage you in conversation. You want to spout ill conceived and unintelligent propagandist rubbish and I'll likely call you out for the idiot you are. End of story, sunshine!
Well, it would appear that there are those of you out there that would click the little down thumb, without the intelligence to make a case in support of your churlish clicking! Defend yourselves, correct me, or go back to hicksville!
the Mustang's cooling system aerodynamics were developed by NAA's engineer Edgar Schmued or by Curtiss, although historians and researchers dismiss the allegation of stolen technology; such claims are likely moot in any event, as NAA had purchased the complete set of P-40 and XP-46 wind tunnel data and flight test reports for US$56,000.
Edgar Schmued, German-American aircraft designer (1899 - 1985) was famed for his design of the iconic P-51 Mustang and, later, the F-86 Sabre.
@ashbaume Correct but the Merlins were the USA packard built Merlins. Different tooling and made to different standards than Rolls Royce but still equal and excellent power plants. yes the Merlin copies really did make the P51.
Many, many engineers were taken from Germany to America to upgrade their technology. (The small rest of them was taken to Russia for the same reason).
If great America could participate it was not a problem whether someone was a Nazi.
Yep, thats telling it like it is. Not to mention the space program with Von Brown and his colleges who were sent back to germany after the success of the progam. One of the colleges said " we got them to the moon"
@JohnQuincyAdams1: Yes, but they have only the choice to go to America or Russia. Do you really believe that they were free to decide? Please stay by the truth for yourself!
@conzura. They were free to attempt to decide who they surrendered to. After the high ranking scientists and engineers went to the USA they said, "We certainly didn't want to work for the Russians, the British couldn't afford us so we went to work for the USA!" Lower ranking technicians were often unable to decide whom they surrendered to and were moved to the USSR to work on the Soviet defence/space programs.
@frunabulex There were good nazis and bad nazis. We offered these scientist good pay, food ,lodging, and fame. Our pilots were so well trained, we could have had control of the skies using P-40 Flying Tigers. Russia got there fair share of good scientist too. As far as who was a Nazi.....who cares.
@JohnQuincyAdams1 er no it did not...no need to get overcome with patriotism...the war is over...no doubt it was a great aircraft....good job we had all but destroyed their capacity to build more.
@helstontvx - Yes it did. Look it up. The P-51 was faster, had much greater range, had a much faster rate of climb, had a much higher ceiling and was more maneuverable.
@JohnQuincyAdams1 No one doubts that the P51D (only with Rolls Royce engines) was a great aircraft.
But at this point of time Germany has already concentrated on JET technology, far ahead of American technology. But Germany was not able to produce enough of them. Look at the Messerschmitt Me P.1101 ... does it not look like a F86 or the Gotha Go 229 not like a B2-Spirit?
@frunabulex Actually, by mid-1945 the Americans were putting the P-80 Shooting Star into service. It would have been the master of the Me262. While their technology was superb, by then the Germans were no longer ahead.
Pumping unrestricted investments into immature technological R&D can certainly improve the pace of progress, but cannot guarantee the solution of all problems inherent in new technology. The story of jet engine development in Germany during WWII is a classical example of premature introduction of immature technology into operational use.
Due to the technological immaturity of their engines they were far from being the technological marvels they appear to be.
@JohnQuincyAdams1: You have always to consider the point of time. Earlier P51 versions could not beat a FW190 or BF109 especially in greater hights.
With introduction of the P51D version the "weakness" was fixed. Also this version could not beat for example the Ta 152, Do335 or Me262 but Germany was not able to produce enough quantity to win back the sovereignty over the airspace.
@conzura That could not be more grossly inaccurate. The P-51D was more than capable of matching the performance of the Ta 152. Besides, the TA 152 suffered bad aileron reversal at high speed - the P-51D did not.
@frankwollin igornant shit. Only with GM boosters - and how many 152s had those in 1945? And aileron reversal was there. Even the most ignorant Germanophilic fanboy couldn't miss it.
FW190 airframe doesn't look much bigger than F8F Bearcat. If that is too big then P&W R-4360 Wasp Major. This should fit. Before war began P&W engines were license built in Germany by BMW(I think it was BMW). Long ago I read about this but with time it has faded. Anyone out there know more?
The F8F Bearcat and the FW-190 do not look much alike, so maybe Grumman took that philosophy of big engine/small airframe to a new level after the USAAF captured an FW-190 and was able to use it as inspiration. F8F Bearcat looks like an F6F-5 and an FW-190 mated and F8F was the resulting offspring. Axis and Allied forces both built beautiful aircraft. If the FW-190 was sole inspiration for F8F Bearcat, what an inspiration it was!!
The possible attack was forwarned years before by military stratagists and ignored...not days or weeks..Rosevelt wanted to get into the war,but also wanted to stay in power..had he asked for a declaration into it with out provocation,he would have probalby NOT been re elected..gee.....look what we have today...SSDD
YO ---- they were itching to get in they just needed an excuse, you really don't think they didn't know about the japs just look at the big picture or were we dealing with a grosse level of incompetance on the american side. and don't forget about the word expendable.........
First of all, no WWII piston powered fighter attained 464mph except in a dive perhaps. Keep in mind that only recently did highly modified Mustangs, employing contemporary technological improvements, attained such speeds at Reno. Several suffered blown engines trying to achieve 500mph. Second, speculations about a different war outcome had this or that Luftwaffe fighter been deployed all fail due to one simple fact: the U.S. developed the atomic bomb.
Germans were right behind, and do you think the states would have dropped it on countries it was not at war with? it was at war with the nazis not the countries they were in.. that could have been really bad for the states if they did that
Actually, Sneak, they weren't. This made some people question continuing development of the bomb in the U.S. The Allies killed more civilians firebombing Dresden than the U.S. did at Hiroshima, thus the essence of your argument doesn't really work. We were at war with Germany which had declared war on us, and there were many targets in Germany to choose from. The ugly but unavoidable question unfortunately is would we have dropped the atom bomb on white people. That's the essence of it, alas.
And to the Green Heart fellow, I worked on a very scrupulous air combat simulation years ago called Air Warrior. Our customers were every bit as devoted to history as you are. Thus we used only contemporary primary source flight test data to model the aircraft we featured. I too was surprised that the flight data did not mirror what the history books had said. Not trying to sound like a pompous, dismissive person. For me it was a job and our customers demanded absolute accuracy.
what i mean is i dont think they would have used it on soil of the country they were not at war with IE france, fire bombings were always on the country their were at war with Tokyo and Germany
Oh, I know and I agree that we would NEVER have used it on a country other than Germany. I think I may have missed your point originally.
And there was a piston fighter capable of 464mph but I was thinking single engine - a weak defense I know. The Dornier Arrow in-line twin was capable of that speed. It was an odd looking thing...resembled something more nautical than aeronautical. Pierre Clostermann caught a glimpse of one at the end of the war...brief glimpse :)
Well the facts speak for themselves...If the "game" dont mirror the history books...then the accuracy is false...Besides...I've flown air warrior..... Nothing compared to FA....
I'm sorry but someone needs to "re read" their history books....The TA152 attained 472 the P-47N reached 467 while the F-82 reached 465 (thats the twin mustang) which did see combat service
The He 100 and the Fw 190 should have been the mainstay fighters for the Luftwaffe.Politics got involved and the bf109 got the nod ahead of the He 100 which at 464 miles per hour was close to the attainable limit for propeller-powered aircraft.Heinkel was way ahead of his time in aircraft design.Had the Nazis backed him,the air war woulda been a diff story.
grodspc, The Heinkel He 177 could've been that bomber i reckon. Thats if the Luftwaffe didn't cut corners coupling the engines that ended up destroying the plane. And also if it hadn't been decided to give it dive bomber status too. Kinda makes you think of the mentality of the Luftwaffe high command.
Wow, I've got chills! What a great plane. Bomber crews feared the '109, but this was a whole new level of terror for the allies. Look at the extra long undercarrige. Visibility during the taxi to the runway must be real bad. Have to swerve a lot to see.
i agree (that is a FW-190A8 in the video) but the FW-109D was a great fighter and that plus the Me-262 jet would have caused havoc in the skies if they had enough time, the main problem with the Germans is they had no long range bombers like the B-17 or B-24 lucky for the allies.
They had many long range bombers with 4 engines but not in large enough numbers, and with no fighter protection in a sky full of American and British planes.
your right they did have a few long range bombers FW 200 is one i think but they never used them well the allies had the best bombers with the Lanc at night b-17 during the day it was a renlentless pounding. maybe the Germans should have had something better than the he-111 and ju-88 ju-87 during the battle of Britain they would have won more
No, the main problem with the Germans was driving out the Jewish pop, invading the U.S.S.R. and not taking out the British. Basically, just shorten the explanation - blame Hitler.
Here, Here, from a U.S. Patriot, FW 190 D Was a outstanding aircraft, in the right hands it would have put up a great fight, and equal to the Mustangs whom out numbered it 10 to one in 1945, god pitty U.S. airmen and allied airmen if in 1945 there were 200 of each pilots equal to in this aircraft such as Adolf Galland,Gordon Gollob,Joachim Maseille,Herman Graf, just to name a few. I would hate to think of the outcome.
Too late now lads. You missed your chance!
Finkie147 3 months ago
@Finkie147 <----- retard alert
MrAapenkind 2 months ago
Remember that the P51 (amazing plane) wing was designed by a German living in USA. Rolls engines reliability is what made that plane a success other with its dogfight abilities.
GaryLaaks1 4 months ago
Did you see the plane start to pull to the left soon after take off? This was a problem that was resolved in the hands of a pilot familiar with the plane and in up-modeled editions. What a beauty that butch bird is!
5inthehole 5 months ago
@5inthehole
This replica is patterned after the A-8 series, that last A series except for a few A-9. There were no more before the longnose D series. What control problem are you referring to? This was the first test hop for the new replica.
FiveCentsPlease 5 months ago
Nice aircraft. What's the engine?
juliesfar 5 months ago
@juliesfar
Russian designed, Chinese manufactured ASh-82 14-cylinder radial. The Fw190 replica project had a goal of an affordable warbird kit for interested buyers that would still be easy to service and repair. The ASh-82 engine is in good supply and is similar in size, weight, and power as the original BMW801 engine. The rarity of the original BMW motors and the great expensive in building one to flyable condition is why this project chose the ASh-82 engine.
FiveCentsPlease 5 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease Thank you for the answer. When you hear it it sounds a bit "wrong". But a real nice plane.
juliesfar 5 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease Do you know what the price of an original working BMW801 radial engine would be? Whew!, i'd bet you it would be a pretty penny! Even one in servicable, but not running, condition must be sought after by collectors. I bet you that new engine you have isn't air cooled....correct?
5inthehole 4 months ago
@5inthehole
It's not my airplane, this is the prototype. The ASh-82 is an air-cooled 14-cylinder radial, same as the original BMW. The BMW had supplemental force-air cooling with a geared fan. These replicas have a cooling fan mounted to back of the propeller but some owners have removed that. Regarding BMW prices, I have no numbers to provide for you and the price would depend on the original condition. Even an unused new engine would still need a very expensive overhaul to go flying.
FiveCentsPlease 4 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease Wow! I would have bet my left testee that it wasn't air-cooled! I thought, if memory serves me right (getting older) that the original radial had a fan in the back to cool the engine. I wonder if thise Chineese engines are copies/knock-offs of the original radial engines. Thanks for the info!
5inthehole 4 months ago
@5inthehole
The BMW cooling fan was geared off of the front of the engine to rotate at 3x propeller speed. The Russian/Chinese ASh-82 has roots in the Wright Cyclone engines that were license-built in Russia, but it sometimes incorrectly described as a "copy" of the BMW, which it is not.
FiveCentsPlease 4 months ago
Beautiful bird!! is it original BMW engine or the russian one?
HappieChickenn 6 months ago
@HappieChickenn
First short test of the prototype Fw190 replica with the Russian/Chinese engine. Twenty-one replicas were to be constructed.
FiveCentsPlease 6 months ago
@HappieChickenn
Not many original 801's out there still running. This bird is powered by the Chinese copy of the Russian Ash-82. Which itself is an upgraded M-25, which was a copy of the R-1920 Cyclone...
EvilxMerlin 6 months ago
great plane!
seattlefw190 7 months ago
Enjoy the aircraft peoples.
BJBTJF 8 months ago
Why build a new FW-190? It has no historical value, its flight characteristics will no doubt be different from the original, and it antagonizes those who have a conscience. And by the way: where's the Iron Cross and the swastikas? Funny how this is supposed to be a replica and the very symbols of its origin - easy to replicate - are left off? Why? Oh yes; as with the rest of this plane, it's in extraordinarily bad taste...
beeroosterm 9 months ago
@beeroosterm
Guess you really like attention since you keep showing up in yet ANOTHER video just to threadjack the comments with your personal bias. And now we can all sit back and watch when your comments are inevitably challenged, you will degrade this thread to petty insults because you cannot support your arguments. Just so we're all clear on that fact from the start. Cue up your Topf & Soehne ovens arguments in 3..2..1....
FiveCentsPlease 9 months ago 4
@FiveCentsPlease Great that you keep following me around, you low-rent Hitler apologist. Take a hike, fuckface, your reasoning holds no water.
beeroosterm 9 months ago
@beeroosterm
And you've just proven my point. The vile racist comments you have been tossing out in other threads is particularly disturbing coming from someone holding the rest of us to such a high moral standard. It looks as though you are what you profess to despise.
You must be really unhappy with your life today since you're being particularly curt. F**kface? C'mon I thought you were more articulate than that. Tsk tsk.....
FiveCentsPlease 9 months ago 2
@FiveCentsPlease
Lol this beerosterm is annoying everyone in other comment areas as well. He has no arguments, keeps telling everyone the same bs.. just a low-life with no knowledge whatsoever.
mrprodigy83 7 months ago
LOVE YOU GUYS FOR BUILDING THESE BABYS!!!!
ooUooUoo 10 months ago
One of the replica 190 A's raced at the Reno Air Races this year. was neat to see that aircraft fly in Sundays Bronze race with a Yak 3, F4U , FM-2 Wildcat, P-51 and a T-28..Hope to see more of these fly in the future.
PropperJ 1 year ago
Sadly it crashed June 12th 2010 during a show at Hyeres while performing a dog-fight with a Spitfire. Pilot ditched her in salt water.
probaco1 1 year ago
@probaco1
No, this is the prototype of 20 new aircraft. One of the others ended up in the ocean during practice and the cause is thought to be a prop failure. It's already out of the water and being rebuilt. Actually two have crashed but I don't know the cause of the second accident other than it looks like a ground-loop.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
AWESOME!!! Listen to that engine growl!
pdutube 1 year ago
totally hot-shit fighter plane...
SupernalOne 1 year ago
Here you have a great resto Fw-190 first flight. And people fighting about what they know of WW2 and insult each other over A plane video. Sad
freakyflow 1 year ago 2
Dont mention the WAR!
smeggels 1 year ago
@smeggels what war???? :)
Heidelager 1 year ago
@smeggels ¡Basil! lol
mac163 1 year ago
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Why does everyone forget, it ws the British that invented the turbo jet in 1930, six years before Germany.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 And whats your point?
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager Its obvious. Use your brain and your eyes. The British patented the first jet, yet the Germans get the credit for producing the 'first' workable prototypes. the Jumo engines in the Messerschmitt's were hellishly unreliable anyway. Further, the fanboy bullshit about Hitler delaying development is nonsense. they couldn't produce reliable enough engines before the autumn 1944 anyway.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 My brains and eyes tell me the Germans had a fully operational and very effective jet that shot the sh#t (and shocked the sh#t) out of everything it came up against in 1945). Yours is a piss poor attempt at a waving the British flag. The Germans were (and still are) all over you poms in terms of engineering and technological know-how. That is the only obvious. :)
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager Well, except for computer and code-breaking technology, of course. COLOSSUS and all that. The stuff that was vital to us winning the war.
wissam24 1 year ago
@Heidelager then they're lying to you. Me 262 losses were huge. Allied pilots picked them off on take-off and landing and their combat record was average to say the least. Superior? Sound ranging? Radar? Breaking the Enigma code? Ignorant fuck. To the contrary, yours if a shit attempt to prove German superiority - a complete myth since the aforementioned were copied by the Germans. Cunt.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 Your a somewhat unsavoury and unintelligent person who resorts in the first instance to profanity. I won't be wasting any effort at any serious discussion with you. You obviously have something unbalanced "upstairs" noting your highly emotional retort. Did your UK grandfather perhaps cop something up his #rse at Dunkirk while he was scrabbling in the French sand to run away? :)
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager What a revolting little cunt you are. As it happens he was a sniper - a good one.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 what, shot himself did he? :) Might explain your demented hatred if that were the case. Your a very angry little man aren't you Dannyboy? There's obviously a little psychopathology behind all that built up hatred. Tell you what my friend. Go have a little "tug" of the old fellow. :) It might relieve a bit of your tension.
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager If you understand what psychopathology was, or was someone who possessed a doctorate, you would not keep refering to these sexual obsessions. Perhaps it is you that needs relief. Why don't you try your sister, thats what they do in the southern states isn't it? Then attend cross burnings? Then expound how 'grate' the Germanic races are on the internet. I think I have exposed you for what you are. Oops. I shouldn't have used the word 'exposed'. Its propbably got you salivating.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 ROFL You a phd? Your iliterate! Its "if you understand what psychopathology IS" (not was). Its "...it is you WHO (not that) needs relief". Its "great" (not grate). Its "probably" (not propbably).
Your not simply making spelling typos. You can't write!!! ROFL. Have you even finished high school my learned friend? ROFL Your better than a clown. PLEASE respond. This is what I love about youtube...... baiting simpletons like you!!! Your my daily humour!!! LOL
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager Its you're "iliterare!" not "your iliterate!" You twat. So I'll return the baiting nonsense in kind. Obvious typos are no indication of illiteracy. 'Grate' was but in inverted commas to indicate a spelling error because there was no more room you fool. And again.... its "You're my daily humour" not Your. 'LOL'
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@Heidelager Furthermore, Mr Germanophilic fan boy idiot; "fully operational"? Look up the definition. Me 262s were not 'fully' operational. Fifty percent of the pilots killed were so by engine failure. The Gloster Meteor never suffered such problems of overheating, and mechanical breakdowns. The same goes for the German tanks designs. Go back to school you idiot.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 Yours is a poor, poor, poor attempt at trying to promote a little UK military ingenuity. You don't do your country any service at all in the manner in which you attempt this. A message is only as good as the credibility of the messenger. You my friend, are a very poor messenger. Tanks? :) Did the Brits have anything better than their WW1 prototypes? :) I won't waste my time. German tank, jet, rocket etc advancement is established fact. Your simply an unbalanced ranting lunatic.
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager No, I don't think so. You're an agenda-driven (probabaly) Nazi fan boy. At the very least a Germanophilic twat. I havn't attempted, I've done so. German tanks? Please. Unreliable. Expensive and timeconsuming to build. The Germans didn't understand that in an industrial war of attrition its decent quality and numbers that win, not technically sophsticated BUT unreliable weapons. I'm through educating idiots like you. I'm going back to complete my PhD.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 Nazi? Me? LOL How little you know but I have no interest in enlightening you as to how wrong you could possibly be. My only reason for replying is to laugh at your poor attempt at trying to gain credibility. Why tell me about your little Phd project? Is that meant to somehow impress me? ROFL Half my colleagues including myself have that little bit of paper. Yours though is probably coming from Bombay! And a Phd in "fiddling with yourself" perhaps? ROFL Your a laugh! Thanks!!!!
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager 'ROFL', barking like a dog? Your the demented one - if ever you though my esteem was so low that I needed to justify myself from a dimwitted, Nazi fanboy know nothing on the internet. Your breathtaking ignorance is whats funny. And you have a PhD? I think not. Your constant referrals to to masterbation says far more about you than me. Perhaps its an obssession, or the only kind a suxual pleasure you can have.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 It's ".....justify myself TO (not from) a dimwitted .....". And it's "sexual" (not suxual) my dimwitted friend. As for your attempt at insult........ :) ....... not even worth a response other than to same LAME. ROFL (like roll on the floor laughing at a simpleton trying real hard to appear educated but is instead dumb as dogsh#t). :)
As I said in an earlier post, a message is only as good as the messenger. Your credibility is fast sinking my learned (NOT) English friend.
Heidelager 1 year ago
@Heidelager Take it into the playground at recess boys. Nice language. YouTube allows all ages to view these videos, so both of you grow up and stop the nonsense about your imaginary doctorate degrees. My Lord. Pathetic.
Heidelager - not sure why you think you have anything to boast about being German. You gave it 2 tries and lost both. Grow up. Your engineers are no better than the Brits or the Yanks. I've been to school with both - the Germans are not unique in any way.
TheMiseryGuts 1 year ago
@TheMiseryGuts ... and do tell us who won on the playground.
TheMiseryGuts 1 year ago
@TheMiseryGuts None of your business wanker.
Heidelager 1 year ago
@TheMiseryGuts You own posts don't give you any pulpit to preach from. I'd suggest you take yourself out to the playground and keep your nose out of our little shenanigans. If you want to buy in, by all means. Just don't try the dishonesty of the squeaky clean nun charade.
Heidelager 1 year ago
@TheMiseryGuts You know nothing of engineering, obviously.
wildhippy 1 year ago
@wildhippy Neither do you dick head. I'd be suprised if you didn't use wikipedia for your 'knoweldge'. Thicko.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 lol, you don't know me. Yes, I use Wikipedia all the time, when it's appropriate. You don't? I also use expert knowledge, professional journals, books, and the documentary record when appropriate. That's just common sense. Some Wiki stuff is very well sourced and some is nonsense, you can't make a general judgement about it, only a fool....ahhhh I see. You idiots also love the logical fallacy, I see.
wildhippy 1 year ago
@wildhippy So I do know you. Expert knowledge? Like what? Journals? Like what? And for your information, sources used on wikipedia are open to interpretation. For example, how do know the spotty cretin that wrote a certain sentence is honest? Lets say, "Mr expert of Bf 09s", Uwe Feist for example, is quoted "the 109 was faster than the Me 262 at certain altitudes" is telling the truth? What idiot would take it as red.... only the cretins that bother to read it in the first place. And no, I don't
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@wildhippy The bottom line is, wildhippy, trippy, whatever, is that you have no brain. This why you defend the illogical. Your admission to using wikipedia, under any circumstances, says it all. And your pathetic retort to TheMiseryGuts turns you into the out of your depth twit you are. Please engage him further, just for my amusement. I'm a historian, an aviation historian with publications to my credit. More than enough to deal with your crap.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@wildhippy Yeah, right. You are barking up the wrong tree.
I taught aeronautics when in grad school. My Aero/Astro MS thesis was focused on 'frequency damping of complex structures' in control dynamics. What is 'your' engineering background?
TheMiseryGuts 1 year ago
@TheMiseryGuts Appeal to authority is a fallacy of defective induction, where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative.
A.
Oxon (but you shouldn't care)
wildhippy 1 year ago
@Heidelager No. Its quite correct to right "from". "Fast sinking", you "mean sinking fast", really not "real hard". "You own posts". Pft. Furthermore, you have proven yourslef out of depth in discussion about military hardware, as has effortlessly been proven. So like the other guy says, take your sexual perversions, misguided Germanophilic obsessions, and make like a hare.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
@DannyBoy777777 You're an idiot. Drunken Mics should know when they are out of their depth.
wildhippy 1 year ago
@wildhippy Please. And what sort of Germanophilic bull shit do you have to offer thicko? "Er, I fink dat dur German were supt-perior" (laughs like a demented pratt). I've studied military history, I'd know far more than I thicko dick like you could possible comprehend in a life time. DICK.
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wildhippy 1 year ago
actually JohnQuincyAdams1 ,,the USA drew on the 190's design when they made the F8 Bearcat....Grummans engineers admired the 190 and used many of of its features
mattf49006 1 year ago
amazing!! greetings from Mexico
diegovaz100 1 year ago
beutiful plane, would be a real treat to see it in person
deicide4u 1 year ago
Great clip - Thanks for sharing.
Diametrac 1 year ago
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frankwollin 1 year ago 16
I recall watching some interviews with some WW2 German Aces on the History Channel. Several claimed to prefer the FW-190 over the Bf-109. They claimed the Focke-Wulf was easier to land (wider distance between wheels), and the cockpit had better all-around vision. I'm sure some probably felt otherwise.
terrafirma91 2 years ago
Is this a scaled down model? It looks a little small for an Fw 190
freebeerfordworkers 2 years ago
The weren't very large planes... I believe this is full size.
meinshnake 1 year ago
All Anyone Ever Needs To Know:
-The Ultimate Allied Superfighters, Tempest Mk.II, Sea Fury & Grumman Bearcat, Were All Based on Research Triggered By The Awesome Focke Wulf 190
guthywoodry 2 years ago
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true, it was a very fine aircraft but it didn't spawn the Spitfire, the Mustang or the Shturmovik
DRAC250 2 years ago
I think you play too much IL-2 ..And sturmovik was a 2 seater with rear gunner, much like Stuka only bit faster..U cant compare a speed machine like 190 and a sturmovik.
Brainiac83 2 years ago
never played it actually. The Sturmovik was far more heavily armed than the Stuka, with machine-guns and bombs in the wings and with much heavier armour. @guthywoodry: the Tempest was a variant of the existing British generation of fighter-bombers started by the Typhoon, not based on the 190 - that's the only one I know in particular. In any case, you're hardly talking "superfighters"; what about the La-5, the Spitfire or the P-51D?
DRAC250 2 years ago
@DRAC250 actually many elements of the FW-190 were copied and put to use in the Hawker tempest. I think you underestimate just how revolutionary the 190 was.
pramboy09 2 years ago 3
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@Brainiac83 Unless it's busting tanks. Many, many tanks!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
you tell a b17 tailgunner about the firepower of these babies
motormonkeyNL 2 years ago
I think that may have beaten the Howard Hughes record for shortest flight :P
jaw1024 2 years ago
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holy crap 300 feet! that must be a new world record!
Derpmeat08 2 years ago
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It is unimportant that the Germans tend to make better quality things. They surely do, and their airplanes were outstanding without doubt. But for one thing. It doesn't matter that their craftsmanship was better, considering NOBODY would have any airplanes, good or bad, had not the Wright Bros. invented them in the first place. Come to think of it, that goes for light bulbs, recorded sound, electric communication, also. American inventions in the first place. Oh, yeah--and polio vaccine too.
noacronym 2 years ago
Silly statement, you made. The Wright brothers did not *invent* the aeroplane, but were the first to put an engine into one - manned gliders had been flying for years. If the Wrights had not done it, someone else would have - there were other inventors working on powered flight. I suggest you do a Google for "Richard Pearse" and find out how close some of those other inventors were to powered flight at the time the Wright brothers *invented* the aeroplane.
MarsFKA 2 years ago
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Yeah--"if the Wright brothers hadn't, the somebody else would have". Dumb statement. Yeah, and if the Allies hadn't have won the war, then somebody else would have. And if Joe Blo hadn't been the first to scale such-and-such mountain, then somebody else would have. Terrific logic, friend.
noacronym 2 years ago
And if Swan hadn't developed vacuum-encased filaments in 1850, Edison wouldn't have started a company to mass-produce them in 1878. huh? huh? Why aren't we talking about FW190's huh?
Hopfolk 2 years ago
M1 Garand was made by a Canadian man =) and the zipper too.
Acornoa 2 years ago
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Oh for god's sake, here we go again. You just had to make a dick of yourself and spout on about how fucking great America is. Christ, what about all of the other 'stuff' invented elsewhere in the world. Richard Pearse, New Zealand, first powered flight! Rutherford, New Zealander, split the atom, allowing you to build more nuclear reactors. Your overblown patriotism has no place here! Oh, you fucked up the electric communication part too! France and Germany. First recorded sound, in France!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
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frunabulex 1 year ago
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OMfucking G yourself you uncultured fool. My lessons are sound, unlike your propaganda based tosh! What, exactly, are you referring to, when you mention 'first place technic'? Go away, research, learn, hopefully from unbiased sources, before you dare to challenge those with more knowledge! Ignorant pup!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
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frankwollin 1 year ago
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Frankwollin, quite frankly, your ignorance astounds me. We prefer to eat our sheep. While we're on the subject though, perhaps you should stop fucking close family members and give your gene pool a chance to recover. You're on a downward spiral to munterville, you ignorant hick. My research is sound. My education is sound. You embarrass yourself with your lack of intelligence.
sketchmeister 1 year ago
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frankwollin 1 year ago
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Haha, I least I don't fuck 'em. The fart in your head seems to be manifesting itself through your keyboard. Now stop filling your mother with inadequate cum and go back to kindergarten. A basic education would help you learn the error of your ways. If you can't manage that, at least use contraception. The world does not need your offspring!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
@sketchmeister: If you areally as smart as you think, why do you argue on that low level?
Please consider that this is a comment blog for the fantastic FW190 and not a blog for low level argue which has really nothing to to with it.
frunabulex 1 year ago 3
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frankwollin 1 year ago
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I reply in the language necessary to be understood by the fools I have to suffer when reading their pathetic comments. Do you really think I enjoy reading the 'America is coolest rule the world' retarded comments I seem to come across constantly? You want to discuss the merits of certain aircraft, fine, I'll engage you in conversation. You want to spout ill conceived and unintelligent propagandist rubbish and I'll likely call you out for the idiot you are. End of story, sunshine!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
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Well, it would appear that there are those of you out there that would click the little down thumb, without the intelligence to make a case in support of your churlish clicking! Defend yourselves, correct me, or go back to hicksville!
sketchmeister 1 year ago
This from the wikipedia..and yes it WAS told on the history channel that way..They pretty much get things right the first time around
jg54traut 2 years ago
the Mustang's cooling system aerodynamics were developed by NAA's engineer Edgar Schmued or by Curtiss, although historians and researchers dismiss the allegation of stolen technology; such claims are likely moot in any event, as NAA had purchased the complete set of P-40 and XP-46 wind tunnel data and flight test reports for US$56,000.
Edgar Schmued, German-American aircraft designer (1899 - 1985) was famed for his design of the iconic P-51 Mustang and, later, the F-86 Sabre.
jg54traut 2 years ago
The mustang was nothing without the merlin,good airframe made great with an english/usa partnership
ashbaume 2 years ago 4
@ashbaume Correct but the Merlins were the USA packard built Merlins. Different tooling and made to different standards than Rolls Royce but still equal and excellent power plants. yes the Merlin copies really did make the P51.
Robkat3751 2 years ago
The Americans stole most of their aircraft designs from the Nazis
Bugalooob 2 years ago
Thats true and whats about the rocket technology?
Many, many engineers were taken from Germany to America to upgrade their technology. (The small rest of them was taken to Russia for the same reason).
If great America could participate it was not a problem whether someone was a Nazi.
frunabulex 1 year ago 53
Yep, thats telling it like it is. Not to mention the space program with Von Brown and his colleges who were sent back to germany after the success of the progam. One of the colleges said " we got them to the moon"
kriegmeister3000 1 year ago 5
@kriegmeister3000
Von Braun remained in the US after the moon program and continued to work for NASA for a while and then in the aerospace industry.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@FiveCentsPlease Correct, but his colleges got sent back to Germany. I knew I left something out.
kriegmeister3000 1 year ago
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@frunabulex - No engineers were, "taken". They were offered JOBS that THEY accepted. For cryin' out loud, let's be truthful at least!
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1: Yes, but they have only the choice to go to America or Russia. Do you really believe that they were free to decide? Please stay by the truth for yourself!
conzura 1 year ago 6
@conzura. They were free to attempt to decide who they surrendered to. After the high ranking scientists and engineers went to the USA they said, "We certainly didn't want to work for the Russians, the British couldn't afford us so we went to work for the USA!" Lower ranking technicians were often unable to decide whom they surrendered to and were moved to the USSR to work on the Soviet defence/space programs.
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@frunabulex There were good nazis and bad nazis. We offered these scientist good pay, food ,lodging, and fame. Our pilots were so well trained, we could have had control of the skies using P-40 Flying Tigers. Russia got there fair share of good scientist too. As far as who was a Nazi.....who cares.
acfinney 1 year ago
@frunabulex
That´s right!
MrTYPE97 7 months ago
@Bugalooob - America didn't steal aircraft designs from Germany. The P-51 Mustang outclassed the FW-190 in every regard.
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1 Not at all. FW190 had a more powerful engine (every wartime model), better weapons (20mm guns instead of .50cal).
Cougar545x39 1 year ago
Not in roll rate, firepower or acceleration. The dora also has a higher maximum speed with boost.
493175001 1 year ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1 er no it did not...no need to get overcome with patriotism...the war is over...no doubt it was a great aircraft....good job we had all but destroyed their capacity to build more.
helstontvx 1 year ago
@helstontvx - Yes it did. Look it up. The P-51 was faster, had much greater range, had a much faster rate of climb, had a much higher ceiling and was more maneuverable.
JohnQuincyAdams1 1 year ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1 No one doubts that the P51D (only with Rolls Royce engines) was a great aircraft.
But at this point of time Germany has already concentrated on JET technology, far ahead of American technology. But Germany was not able to produce enough of them. Look at the Messerschmitt Me P.1101 ... does it not look like a F86 or the Gotha Go 229 not like a B2-Spirit?
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@frunabulex Actually, by mid-1945 the Americans were putting the P-80 Shooting Star into service. It would have been the master of the Me262. While their technology was superb, by then the Germans were no longer ahead.
ahz123 7 months ago
@frunabulex ..,no it wasn't dude.
Pumping unrestricted investments into immature technological R&D can certainly improve the pace of progress, but cannot guarantee the solution of all problems inherent in new technology. The story of jet engine development in Germany during WWII is a classical example of premature introduction of immature technology into operational use.
Due to the technological immaturity of their engines they were far from being the technological marvels they appear to be.
fluffy1931 6 months ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1 Two words for you............ "patriotic F#ckwit".
Heidelager 1 year ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1: You have always to consider the point of time. Earlier P51 versions could not beat a FW190 or BF109 especially in greater hights.
With introduction of the P51D version the "weakness" was fixed. Also this version could not beat for example the Ta 152, Do335 or Me262 but Germany was not able to produce enough quantity to win back the sovereignty over the airspace.
conzura 1 year ago
@conzura That could not be more grossly inaccurate. The P-51D was more than capable of matching the performance of the Ta 152. Besides, the TA 152 suffered bad aileron reversal at high speed - the P-51D did not.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
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frankwollin 1 year ago
@frankwollin igornant shit. Only with GM boosters - and how many 152s had those in 1945? And aileron reversal was there. Even the most ignorant Germanophilic fanboy couldn't miss it.
DannyBoy777777 1 year ago
So are they using the original BMW engine? I heard they used a Shvetsov ASh-82FN radial engine--ironically the engine they use in the La-5;
nickmitsialis 2 years ago 3
I would love to see P&W R2800: if that to big then use Wright 2600.
TheSteamLocomotive 2 years ago
Steam, I think the Pratt & Whitney is DEFINITELY too large for the airframe; I don't know about the Wright though.
nickmitsialis 2 years ago
FW190 airframe doesn't look much bigger than F8F Bearcat. If that is too big then P&W R-4360 Wasp Major. This should fit. Before war began P&W engines were license built in Germany by BMW(I think it was BMW). Long ago I read about this but with time it has faded. Anyone out there know more?
TheSteamLocomotive 2 years ago
Given the Bearcat was majorly inspired by the 190, that does not come as a wonder.
Gammelpreusse 2 years ago
F8F Bearcat was created by designing smallest airframe possible around the P&W R2800; and if the FW190 was the inspiration for the Bearcat, so be it.
TheSteamLocomotive 2 years ago
Putting the smallest possible airframe around the most powerful available engine has been the german design philosphy since the 30ies. Go figure =)
You are right, btw, the BMW 812 was developed out of a license build P&W
Gammelpreusse 2 years ago
The F8F Bearcat and the FW-190 do not look much alike, so maybe Grumman took that philosophy of big engine/small airframe to a new level after the USAAF captured an FW-190 and was able to use it as inspiration. F8F Bearcat looks like an F6F-5 and an FW-190 mated and F8F was the resulting offspring. Axis and Allied forces both built beautiful aircraft. If the FW-190 was sole inspiration for F8F Bearcat, what an inspiration it was!!
TheSteamLocomotive 2 years ago
Absolutely agreed, especially the Corsair and the Lightning are true classics.
About the Bearcat - 190 connection, just do a little google search using those two planes as a search criteria. =)
Gammelpreusse 2 years ago
The first 'jump' more likely.. :) :) Nice looking plane, though.. :)
BasicModelling 2 years ago
The landing gear is not really inspiring confidence...
ppers 2 years ago
I never noticed the propeller was that big ...
GendPzTrSchmidt 2 years ago
Fw190 butcher bird........ excellent radial engine fighter.
yakovlev3a 2 years ago 5
BMW built the14 cylinder (two rows of 7 each) supercharged engine in this German bird.
sixty8panther 2 years ago
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BikerRussell 2 years ago
didn't it come with a radial engine? exept for the later longnose dora..
furiousz555 2 years ago
The possible attack was forwarned years before by military stratagists and ignored...not days or weeks..Rosevelt wanted to get into the war,but also wanted to stay in power..had he asked for a declaration into it with out provocation,he would have probalby NOT been re elected..gee.....look what we have today...SSDD
jg54traut 2 years ago
YO ---- they were itching to get in they just needed an excuse, you really don't think they didn't know about the japs just look at the big picture or were we dealing with a grosse level of incompetance on the american side. and don't forget about the word expendable.........
kriegmeister3000 2 years ago
Is this a restored original or one of the 3/4 scale models adveritized a few years ago?
PotatoGunsRule 2 years ago
Full scale, almost entirely new build (the tailwheel assemblies used were original war-time manufacture) by Flug Werk GmbH.
TsurugiJiri 2 years ago
Wow, thanks for the info man! If I had the money.....if I had the money!
PotatoGunsRule 2 years ago
First of all, no WWII piston powered fighter attained 464mph except in a dive perhaps. Keep in mind that only recently did highly modified Mustangs, employing contemporary technological improvements, attained such speeds at Reno. Several suffered blown engines trying to achieve 500mph. Second, speculations about a different war outcome had this or that Luftwaffe fighter been deployed all fail due to one simple fact: the U.S. developed the atomic bomb.
luscombe1516b 2 years ago
Germans were right behind, and do you think the states would have dropped it on countries it was not at war with? it was at war with the nazis not the countries they were in.. that could have been really bad for the states if they did that
Sneak693 2 years ago
Actually, Sneak, they weren't. This made some people question continuing development of the bomb in the U.S. The Allies killed more civilians firebombing Dresden than the U.S. did at Hiroshima, thus the essence of your argument doesn't really work. We were at war with Germany which had declared war on us, and there were many targets in Germany to choose from. The ugly but unavoidable question unfortunately is would we have dropped the atom bomb on white people. That's the essence of it, alas.
luscombe1516b 2 years ago
And to the Green Heart fellow, I worked on a very scrupulous air combat simulation years ago called Air Warrior. Our customers were every bit as devoted to history as you are. Thus we used only contemporary primary source flight test data to model the aircraft we featured. I too was surprised that the flight data did not mirror what the history books had said. Not trying to sound like a pompous, dismissive person. For me it was a job and our customers demanded absolute accuracy.
luscombe1516b 2 years ago
Dresden is still German soil
what i mean is i dont think they would have used it on soil of the country they were not at war with IE france, fire bombings were always on the country their were at war with Tokyo and Germany
Sneak693 2 years ago
Oh, I know and I agree that we would NEVER have used it on a country other than Germany. I think I may have missed your point originally.
And there was a piston fighter capable of 464mph but I was thinking single engine - a weak defense I know. The Dornier Arrow in-line twin was capable of that speed. It was an odd looking thing...resembled something more nautical than aeronautical. Pierre Clostermann caught a glimpse of one at the end of the war...brief glimpse :)
luscombe1516b 2 years ago
Well the facts speak for themselves...If the "game" dont mirror the history books...then the accuracy is false...Besides...I've flown air warrior..... Nothing compared to FA....
jg54traut 2 years ago
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jg54traut 2 years ago
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I'm sorry but someone needs to "re read" their history books....The TA152 attained 472 the P-47N reached 467 while the F-82 reached 465 (thats the twin mustang) which did see combat service
jg54traut 2 years ago
@luscombe1516b Yes, and atomic bombs fly to their targets all by them-selves, with no need for bombers requiring fighter escorts?
TheHerrUlf 1 year ago
The He 100 and the Fw 190 should have been the mainstay fighters for the Luftwaffe.Politics got involved and the bf109 got the nod ahead of the He 100 which at 464 miles per hour was close to the attainable limit for propeller-powered aircraft.Heinkel was way ahead of his time in aircraft design.Had the Nazis backed him,the air war woulda been a diff story.
barbenH 2 years ago
grodspc, The Heinkel He 177 could've been that bomber i reckon. Thats if the Luftwaffe didn't cut corners coupling the engines that ended up destroying the plane. And also if it hadn't been decided to give it dive bomber status too. Kinda makes you think of the mentality of the Luftwaffe high command.
BuddyFantastic 2 years ago
In 1943 a couple fw 190 fighter bombers in daylight dropped bombs in barking and ilford.
daggers93 2 years ago
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apatheticempathy 2 years ago
Is she with original type of engine or...?
pistonss 2 years ago
...not. See second comment.
TsurugiJiri 2 years ago
Thanks... I got it now... Sorry
pistonss 2 years ago
Wow, I've got chills! What a great plane. Bomber crews feared the '109, but this was a whole new level of terror for the allies. Look at the extra long undercarrige. Visibility during the taxi to the runway must be real bad. Have to swerve a lot to see.
jonesy97 3 years ago
i agree (that is a FW-190A8 in the video) but the FW-109D was a great fighter and that plus the Me-262 jet would have caused havoc in the skies if they had enough time, the main problem with the Germans is they had no long range bombers like the B-17 or B-24 lucky for the allies.
grodspc 3 years ago
They had many long range bombers with 4 engines but not in large enough numbers, and with no fighter protection in a sky full of American and British planes.
SmiertSpionem 3 years ago
your right they did have a few long range bombers FW 200 is one i think but they never used them well the allies had the best bombers with the Lanc at night b-17 during the day it was a renlentless pounding. maybe the Germans should have had something better than the he-111 and ju-88 ju-87 during the battle of Britain they would have won more
grodspc 3 years ago
No, the main problem with the Germans was driving out the Jewish pop, invading the U.S.S.R. and not taking out the British. Basically, just shorten the explanation - blame Hitler.
jefevonQ 2 years ago
Here, Here, from a U.S. Patriot, FW 190 D Was a outstanding aircraft, in the right hands it would have put up a great fight, and equal to the Mustangs whom out numbered it 10 to one in 1945, god pitty U.S. airmen and allied airmen if in 1945 there were 200 of each pilots equal to in this aircraft such as Adolf Galland,Gordon Gollob,Joachim Maseille,Herman Graf, just to name a few. I would hate to think of the outcome.
t10bravo 3 years ago 3
you missed Erich Hartmann. 352 air victories if im correct. and he survived the war ,too.
-salute :)
inar64 3 years ago 3
valois 5, correct
wtctribute, true, example 500000 elite men in italy during cource, they would have made a tremendus difference
DimitrisKs 3 years ago