This movie is the same as my life,i can feel how they feel,i cried all the time when i saw this trailer,this is my life.I watch this every night.(Not a Jap fan btw)
If you liked this video,look for military march "Defensa de Puerto Arturo,posted by Faperdi and performed by de Chilean Army Band.Hope you to like it.
@RedMichail Not so many Poles, especially Polish officers and soldiers from military conscription (the Congress Kingdom of Poland to 100 000 soldiers, of which one quarter had a chance to participate in the fight). Rather, no Pole would not participate in it because it was not Polish case but Russian imperialism. Poles as the subjects were forced to meet their obligations.
@skreczujacasurykatka Dude in Russian "Branka" they took mainly pesant and poor peoples. Congress Kingdom had Professional Army from times of Great Prince Konstanty. From my books written by serious historical publishers, "Mówią Wieki" it is clear that the carat had mobilized about 50 thousand. Poles to fight mostly in Siberian units. Half of those men never came back to Poland. See Jerzy Wołkowicki the greatest hero of the war in Tsarist and Soviet Russia.
@RedMichail Mówią Wieki to raczej nie najlepsze źródło, by brać z niego przykład lepiej zajrzyj do jakiejś monografii a nie do czasopisma.Co do branki to raczej zwyczaj ten utrzymał się do powstania styczniowego (generalnie do początku II poł. XIX w.) w momencie gdy Rosyjskie Wojsko przeprowadziło w latach 70 XIX w. istotne reformy wojskowe prowadzące do stworzenia nowoczesnej armii na miarę tamtych lat, dlatego nie istniało już coś takiego jak branka i kantoniści nie było potrzebne
@skreczujacasurykatka Zależy od autora artykułu. Po reformach armijnych liczbę lat powoli zmniejszano. Z 25 do 20 z 20 do 15 itp aż zostało 5 lat służby co z kolei zredukowano na czas trwania konfliktu. Wojsko rosyjskie do dzisiejszego dnia przeprowadza brankę tyle że nie jest to już tak restrykcyjna forma powołania jak podczas powstań. WR w stanie pokojowym liczyło 1,1 mln żołnierzy a na dalekim wschodzie 150tys.
@skreczujacasurykatka Liczba ta bynajmniej nie wystarczała do zatrzymania wojsk Imperium Japońskiego więc żołnierzy dostarczano codziennie 4 eszelonami do stacji końcowych takich jak Dalnyj. Docelowo w rejon zainteresowania miano przerzucić 1,2 mln żołnierzy. Okręgi poborowe istniejące także w Kongresówce przewidywały powołanie pod broń 60 tys. żołnierzy z czego udało się powołać około 50tys z powodu zwyczajowego ruskiego bałaganu i szybkiego zakończenia działa wojennych.
@skreczujacasurykatka Trudno mi teraz powołać się na jakieś dokumenty bo nie umieszczono tego na internecie a Polacy niezbyt interesują się "nie swoimi wojnami". Jednak na odkrywcy jest zatrzęsienie medali za wojnę rosyjsko japońską z w jakiś sposób obrazuje ogrom siły Polskiej wysłanej na daleki wschód.
@RedMichail Po prostu wygoggluj sobie pod tytułem Polacy w wojnie rosyjsko-japońskiej a szczątkowo dowiesz się najważniejszy rzeczy. Dobrym kompendium wiedzy jest: Morskaja kampanija,Morskaja kołliekcija,Bojewyje korabli mira,Midiel szpangout,Stapiel,Eskadra,Istorija woorużenij w knigach: Fłot. No i źródła: CAW, Archiwum Państwowe, Russkij Inwalid, Prasa lokalna z okresu wojny 1904-5. A. Zbierski"Udział Polaków w wojnie rosyjsko-japońskiej na morzu w latach 1904- 1905"
Ze swojej strony polecam "Cuszimę" Nowikowa-Priboja (niby powieść ale zawarte jest w niej niezwykłe multum wypowiedzi Polaków na temat tej wojny). Wujkowi Google nie dowierzam i surfuję tylko po sprawdzonych stronach. A o polakach opisani są tylko i wyłącznie niektóry oficerowie, jak podjadę do ciotki z Krasnojarska to może poczytam coś w ichniejszych bibliotekach. Pozdrawiam!
The reason why Japan fought agaist Russia was that Russia advanced the Korean peninsula to get the right of military base. At the time LIAOTUNG of China was already Russian colony. Japan was afraid of security of TSUSHIMA AND KYUSHU. If so Japan would be disappeared. So Japan must fought agaist Russia for Korea.At the time Korea could not decide the choice Japan or Russia. But Japan won. Korea sidled up to Japan to join the annexation. If Korea choose Russia, Korea must be colony of Russia.
Им историю учить не надо. Если они будут ее знать, то им придется признать славу Российской империи и победу Советского Союза. А так, среднестатистический япошка или пиндос - патриотичный быдло-русофоб. В Японии даже денацификации не провели, как в Германии.
I have watched the movie, it is unusual view, not bad but the way, but it is full of stereotypes, which has nothing common with reality. The russian uniform does not look correct, and I have not noticed a single person that will look like russian soldure, they all more like gypsy. This movie is more like fiction than like historical.Interesting that Japaneese officers liked Leo Tolstoy, inspite of the war.
You are so humorous guy and I can agree with you in this comment. When this movie was released(1980), Russia was unfamiliar to Japanese(and even now). But When I watched Russian movie 'ORDER:TO CROSS THE FRONTIER', I cant understandwhat 'Japanese solders' said.
Yes, but his literature is too difficult for children. So we learnt his literatures digest. I guess he is the most famous man of letters in Japan in spite of foreigner. But I dont think his works affect this film because the war movie which praise of heros(sound like Hollywood) have been taboo in Japan. In short, 'Tolstoys officer' is usual solder in Japanse film. I think this tendency carry too far in Japan(the exact opposite to Hollywood).
Japaneese losses were 10 to 1 russian in Port Arthur...Common casualties of Japan army here were 110.000, among them 10.000 officers. It took 329 days to make russians to give up.But revenge was epic-in 1945 russians desroyed Quantun Imperor Army ( almost 1 mill people) for 3 weeks...Nothing to be proud of...But you can be proud for your cars and bikes!)
@Yaltasa16 Do you think defeating Japan in 1945 to be not the United States but Russia?
The thing that the Soviet Union annulled the Japanese-Soviet neutrality pact and the thing to deprive of south Sakhalin and the Kurile Islands are dishonorable histories.
It is not a war that the Soviet Union went in August, 1945. It is a theft from the half dead.
The breaking treaty without approval isnt strategy but cut off from the world.Every countries hate the shameless man who talk a haphazard remark,sound like you! In short,you russians are mere liars!
@ppg1640 Japan always thought tha they are special and the best nation. Now, read what they did during the war with China...Still civilized nation?? Have not they used the weakness of their neighbour to seize their territories?They acted lke animals, so shut up telling me who Russians are, you have so many black spots in your history that you can't judge anyone esle so shut up and do something useful.Besides, Stalin was obliged to start war accfording to the results of Yalta conference!
> Now, read what they did during the war with China...Still civilized nation??
First,trigger of Sino-Japanese War was thought that the Communist Party of China had provoked Japan for fight with the Kuomintang of China. Anyway Japan wasnt pick a quarrel with China at first. Second,if you think utilization of weakness isnt shame,why did Russian put down Katyn massacre to Nazi?In short,Russian was afraid that other countries would despise them because of their mean!?
@ppg1640 oh yes, they provoke you to invade their territory?Katyn-there is still no proov that it was made by russians!the facts are too contradicitive there.
Manchuria which was dominated by Japan wasnt Chinese(Han Chinese) territory. So to speak,it was unhibited territory. In that days, China was lawless zone and Japan was involved in their civil war(sound like recent Afghan). And you dont understand chinese(Han) history and their ethnic character. Anyway your information about Asian history is too shortage to have a discussion with me.
@ppg1640 By the way, you tell that Russia was so mean do unleash the war with Japan despite they had treaty, but Soviet Union denounced it in april 5 1945 and declared war to Japan in august 8. Japan did not declare war to the States in Pearl Harbour, so who is mean???Russia had to start war with Japan after they were done with Germany according to the Potsadam conference and coaliton treaty
@Yaltasa16 According to Wiki. in april 5 1945 Russian Foreign minister made sure that the treaty was valid until April in 1946. Because it was written clearly so in the treaty. Declaration of war with Japan when the traty was valid is obviously a violation of the treaty. You can not dispute about this. As to Pearl harbor attack, you may blame Japanese foreign Ministry, not Japanse army and people.
@hashimotomd Ha-ha, well, then don't blame Russia in anything and don't demand the islands back. Blame Stalin...Ha-ha-ha, you are to sly in your arguments
@Yaltasa16 I cannnot get what you mean. Japan and the US did not make a treaty such as Japan and Soviet. Pearl Harbor attack before the declaration of war was just a mistake of JPN Foreign Ministry. But invasion of Soviet is obviously the violation of the treaty. Do yuou have any objections? You mention of Germany. But in August 1945 Germany as an ally of Japan had already disappeared. Do you think the Axis is valid now?
@hashimotomd Yes, but Russia declared the war in advance and why you blame them for that? any country may daclare war at any time, fair or not, that is how things work.At least they declared it and Japaneese had not!!!So, blaming us, blame yourself first, otherwise you would like to show how russians bad and how poor angels japaneese are...Bull shit
Calm down! Your topic is inconherence. OK,I talk about my idea of Russian attack in 1945. First, Battles of Khalkhin Gol had nothing to do with it because it was cease fire in 1939.Second, most of Japanese dont think Pearl Harbor was validity whether they think correct in moral or not . By the way,did Russian have an obligation to attack to Japan? This story is too strange because Russian could refusal to this demand. In short, they gave priority to their interest.
@ppg1640 You ask obvious questions.First-Japan was the closest ally of Germany which was our first priority enemy.Our enemy's friend=our enemy.Secondly, every country wants to protect their interest and it is not bad at all.Third, if Russia would not have started the war with Japan, then those islands could be american or british and we don't want to have common borders with those countries.Now,talking about Khalkin Gol, lots of historicans think that soviet victory there showed to Japan to stop
@ppg1640 It'kk never do to joke when it occurs the massacre war. I have noticed that sometimes I have to repeat my argument over and over before you get it. When there is a war and one of your neignbour is the closest friend of your enemy you always need to take precautions to be ready for any scenario, especially when you have already learnt the lesson when war starts on sunday without any warning inspite of any treaty.
Talking about Finland is shame how stupid soviet generals were but simple
@ppg1640 but simple russian soldure always showed the best moral qualities and bravety.What can you expect if Stalin destroyed the best proffesional officers in the eve of the second world war?Soviets learnt how to be successful in war only by 1943. And don't forget the fact, that at the time wheb the war started Russia started military modernization reformas that only ended in 1942
@ppg1640 their expansion to the east and to start it to the south, Japan respected only the strong answers on their actions and if they were more lucky in Khalkin Gol they could have opened the second front in the most dangerous situation when Germans were not far from Moscow, and we had to keep the whole army in the east to prevent any japaneese possability.american generals confirmed the fact that if Russia would not join`the war, they could loose 1 mill people and the war could last till 1947
@Yaltasa16 Which do your nation prefer, peace or war violating the peace treaty? The discussion is summarized this. I think keeping the remote island does not pay for Russia. By the way, is a broadband such as an optical fiber available in your country? Can you watch the You Tube without feeling impatient?
@hashimotomd Man, I feel quite easy, but I stand my ground and don't think that I behave myself inappropriate unless someone had not started to offend me or my country first. If you have noticed I discuss the topic with you qiute normally. Every historical side and fact can be illuminated differently
@Yaltasa16 That is good. I think it is a justice for Russia to return the northern territory to Japan. It will help ease Japanese distrust of Russia. We Japanese are often surprised by the excuse of the communist or Russian.
I guess he will confuse speculation with fact. To make matters worse, he will confuse with dates too! In short, he translates the fact or guess as advantageous to Russian. U～mmm… If he is a person of average Russian, We cant make friends with them eternally!
@ppg1640 WE DONT care are you going to be among our friends or among our enemies. Don't be so self-confident, we will be able to protect our land, especially now, when your country is damaged by the nature...So, don't be rediculous and fix the freacking atomic stations and stop polluting the ocean with nuclear water. I can't believe how stupid you are, the nature almost destroyed your country and you still think about those islands, you r pathetic
@ppg1640 Who do you mean by "he"? I am confused. Of course a war is legal to resolve the dispute, but Soviet broke the nonaggregatin treaty, it is a serious crime against peace. I want to know how you think about this. You seem to justify the invasion of Soviet. I am surprised. If Germany had won, you would willingly accept Soviet was colonized and extinguished by Germany.
>If Germany had won, you would willingly accept Soviet was colonized and extinguished by Germany.
This comment is too strange because I didnt say 'I love NAZI'. But I think Soviet should had collapsed more early. So I think Ronald Reagan who knocked Soviet down was real hero for all the world. LOL
@ppg1640 Yes, he is a hero, so kiss his dead ass. Also you may kiss one more american ass, who nuked two japaneese cities. Everything in your head is upside down.What was worse-to take two small islands or to destroy two crowded cities? dumb ass
Please tolerate me because I didnt know you are so childish. LOL
>destroy two crowded cities
To be sure,they were our worst enemy but they are our friend now. And international relations have been continuing to change.Anyway they protect us from Russia or China. They save us when we suffered for disaster on this spring. What did Russian do for their alliances, sound like Poland or Czech? They were pushed silly communism and if they opposed to Russia, they were ran over by tanks!
@ppg1640 USA never does anything for free, they always look for profit. Yes, communism sucks but you are wrong if you think that Soviet union just used tanks to calm down people. Soviet Union invested huge amount of money in many republics of former union. They build lots if industrial factories that still work. And talking about military action, Soviet Union as well as Russian Empire never left their alliance alone in dangerous situations.Lots of examples durinf the 1 ww and 2ww as well
@ppg1640 I am sorry if it hurt you. I know of the hardship your country went through such as the dictatorship of Stahkin, invasion by Germany, the nuke disaster.
@ppg1640 "северные территории" никогда не будут японскими, они будут китайскими, и там будут военная база НОАК, а японцы будут покупать в огромных количествах лекарство от поноса и снотворное, особенно на Хоккайдо!
@hashimotomd I think we will not give anything back unless Russia will not want it. Your threats will not work with such country as Russia...WE won, we got what we wanted. IN 1904-1905 you won and got what you wanted. Revenge came,,,,Everything is fair...And stop crying like little baby again and again about those islands
I dont mind you interpret this incident as realization of Russian victory and justice.By the way,do you know Russia was suffered for a considerable loss? In 1990s,they announced 24000 lost and this is 3 times they announced before. Absurdly, they attacked Finland shortly and they lost over 300000 solders. This failure influenced WW2 because Nazi thought Russian was weakness. In short, Russian had never acted cleverly as you expect. LOL
@ppg1640 About the losses check wiki and stop talking nonsence. You could not take Port arthur for a long time even when russian army had suffered because of the revoltion...Read the memuars of your command in chief when at last they entered Port-Arthur.
OK OK Please calm down! Your commnet is too long… I can understand you have many insistances for me but I am so tired that I cant reply all your comments…sorry! To be honest, your commnet make me tired as a Japanese but you will be seriously. By the way, I suggest that 'we' talk about only 'Port Aurthor' because other political terms make a quarrel and get out of hand.
And I recommned you read 'On War' by Carl von Clausewitz, not wikipedia.
@ppg1640 Если б русские на фронте потеряли в три раза больше солдат, то страны оси , не проиграли бы войну. СССР мобилизовал 31 млн чел, Германия 24 млн, без учёта союзников и коллаборационистов, как прибалты, которые вошли в общие потери СССР.
А 24.000 на Халхин-голе, это общие с санитарными, не корректно сравнивать с японскими у которых отсутствую санитарные потери, которых не могло не быть.
@ppg1640 СССР поступил с японской империй также, как она поступала прошедшие 40 лет, так что смешно, когда японцы называют кого-то лжецом, когда самым большим вором являются японцы, и самые большие лжецы японцы, Фукусима показала это.
@ppg1640 Япония надорвётся и порвёт свою алочную пасть, требуя "северные территории" (южные куриилы), 独島 ( ), а также придётся ответить за украденные 釣魚台群島 (尖閣諸島). Все соседи японии знают какие вы лживые твари, никто вас не защитит от законного возмездия соседей. Можешь дальше улыбаться!
@ppg1640 Весь мир видит, как обнаглевшие джапы имеют территориальные споры со всеми соседями, и делают из этого выводы. Курилы не японские, а айнские территории, которому до недавнего времени было отказано в существовании в японии, народ подвергался ассимиляции, а до этого дискриминации. Японцам сколько островов не передавай, всё будут мало, поэтому японцы ничего не получат а здохнут от своего яда.
@ppg1640 Национальным меньшинствам, нужно, что б в их дела и их уклад жизни меньше влазили всякие "старшие братья". Впрочем, уровень жизни яйнов значительно ниже, чем у японцев.
＞Common casualties of Japan army here were 110.000, among them 10.000 officers
Its a mistake.In Port Arthur,casualties of Japanese were 60000 and russians were 18000(3:1).This result wasnt amazing because offense exposed to fire without shield. If win and loss of war were decided by the number of casualities only,winner of Eastern Front of ww2 would German. Please wrote to correct information.
>check wikipedia but not projapaneese historican....
I didnt expect that Russian teach me how to learn of history. LOL
By the way,did you know how Nazi evaluated Russian Army?
They said 'Russian reported 3 times military results and 1/3 times loss to Stalin'. In short, Even a Nazi thought Russian has been told a lie as half measure.
@kaguranoharu5 , учи историю, баран. Меринанское чмо сколько возилось со сраным Гуадалнаналом, и какое количество японских войск было в Квантунской армии. Какие фронты её громили.
@ppg1640 Нападение без объявления войны 25 июля 1894 года на китайцев - китайская ложь и пропаганда?
Подлое нападение на Порт-Артур русская ложь и пропаганда?
Подлое нападение на Монголию в мае 1939 года у Халхин-гола (Номон-Хан) монгольская ложь и пропаганда?
Подлое нападение на Перл-Харбор - Американская ложь и пропаганда?
Совесть имейте и не отрицайте очевидного, Япония нападала на всех соседей всегда без объявления войны. Жестокость японских военных так же известна всем.
@MrYukios Мистер интернет-тролль, прежде чем что-то писать, матчасть подучите, дабы бредом своим не смешить народ.
Суворов провел 60 сражений и все выиграл, Пугачева давить надо было, да и бузил он в тылу, когда страна одновременно три войны вела, в финскую кампанию РККА свою задачу выполнила, Катынь же - либерастическая пропаганда, на хера, скажите НКВДшникам стрелять поляков из винтовок "Маузер", ежели на вооружении мосинки? Брест вообще ни к селу ни к городу приплели. Читайте документы.
This seems like a really good movie. would really appreciate it if you could put this movie on youtube but with english subtitles. I would like to see this movie from beginning to end.
@Bobby0787 i would like everyone to see it, but i have never seen it anywhere with english subs or even dub (a dub exists, but no idea where it was released.)
This is a really great movie. People want to see us in the world. Reveals hidden suffering of Japanese militarism true. But I think it's each person is classified as anti-war movie. Will fight me think what it means. The song is"SAKIMORI-NO-UTA" "SAKIMORI" has a meaning and soldiers protecting the border.
фильм-то вроде бы неплохой. Жаль на русском нет.
MrOL1973 1 week ago
天皇陛下と日露戦争のほうがよかった。
OneofPatriotofJAPAN 2 weeks ago
Не нашел этого фильма на русском.Очень печально.
Santyoify 2 weeks ago
Там же стреляют из бластеров!
Barci91 2 weeks ago
точно,прием нормальный
Barci91 2 weeks ago
japanese retribution for its brutal past but i hope westerners could also gave some retribution
Christopher6849 3 weeks ago
This movie is the same as my life,i can feel how they feel,i cried all the time when i saw this trailer,this is my life.I watch this every night.(Not a Jap fan btw)
Pueofql 3 weeks ago
name of the movie? in inglish if can be posible
lavsivrack 3 weeks ago
Is that Toshiro Mifune? Then, I guess, it is a must-see for me.^^
FiendishFlesh 3 weeks ago
仲代達矢の乃木
丹波哲郎の児玉
森繁久弥の伊藤
三船敏郎の明治帝
これを超えるキャスティングはこの先も現れないだろう。
BL4580 1 month ago
お爺様の写真と制服同じです
乃木さんの部下だった
この映画は母と見に行き、さだまさしさんの防人の歌を聞くだけで、情景が浮かび胸が苦しくなります。
jlolefteye 1 month ago
これぞ戦争映画という感じだよね。テンションもあがるし、映画を見ただけで男らしくなったような気持ちになる。
その点、太平洋戦争モノはひたすら湿っぽいか、過度に英雄視したりでメッセージ性が強すぎる。
戦争映画をヒットさせようと思うなら、日露はいいと思うけど、あんまりないよね。また作ってくれんかなあ。
hhrhj676 1 month ago
If you liked this video,look for military march "Defensa de Puerto Arturo,posted by Faperdi and performed by de Chilean Army Band.Hope you to like it.
hindalix 1 month ago
日本は戦争に進んだのは日本を守るためだった。日本が立ち上がらなければアジア諸国の独立はなかったし、日本が戦わなければアメリカの植民地にっていたのです。我々の今の生活はないのですよ!間違った方に進んだのでなく、義を重んじ武士道精神から戦ったわけです。
1955MAKIO 1 month ago
さだまさしの
ニッポニアニッポンも聴いてみてください。
87saku87saku 1 month ago
日本は間違った方向に進んでいき…
アメリカに戦争で負け…
日本が戦争の方に進んでいなかったら、今頃 素晴らしい国になっていただろうと思う。
87saku87saku 1 month ago
この戦争は、唯一ハーグ陸戦条約が守られ、粛々と戦った戦争です。
昔、この映画も観たし、NHKの坂の上の雲も観ています。
野戦で戦闘員に死傷者が多くなれば、お互いに戦闘を中止して戦場から死傷者を運び出してから再び戦闘を開始したと、書いている人もいる。
これらの映像では、それがあまり表現されていない様な気がします。
実際はどうだったのでしょうか？
ie7y 1 month ago
@ie7y 映画本編には遺体を回収し、その最中に双方の兵士が交流するシーンが描かれています。
orangeheartneverdie 1 month ago
@orangeheartneverdie さんへ
教えて頂きありがとう御座います。
ie7y 1 month ago
いろいろ陳腐な所もあるのも確かです。
が、全体としては脚本の凄みを感じます。
osaosachannel 1 month ago
でも冬の戦闘だったのに夏のロケじゃあドッ白け
それに実際の白兵戦を表現することは出来ないし
全体的に陳腐な作品
amnotlisa 1 month ago
>『NHK坂の上の雲』同じ戦場場面で兵隊の軍服がまるで違うデザインなのは何故？
>誰か説明してください。
>『坂の上の雲』こちらが間違いと思うが？
↑どちらも明治19年に制定された同じ制服ですよ。
『坂の上の雲』ではカーキー色の防寒コートを羽織っています。
BaskOm0083 1 month ago
『NHK坂の上の雲』同じ戦場場面で兵隊の軍服がまるで違うデザインなのは何故？
誰か説明してください。
『坂の上の雲』こちらが間違いと思うが？
vfd1938 1 month ago
@vfd1938 最初、日本軍の制服はこの動画の通り黒だったんだけど、目立ちすぎて標的にされたから満州の土色であるカーキ色を戦時中に急遽採用したんです。
旅順攻略中に制服の一新があるのですが、この映画では混乱を避ける演出上、黒のまま通したのです。ちなみに制服の事情についてはもう少し詳しく坂の上の雲の本文に記載があるので、興味があったら読んでください。
poriporitakuan 1 month ago
12日にBSプレミアムでやります。
楽しみです。
amnotlisa 1 month ago
キス 接吻 口吸い
nabeken1012 1 month ago
Dear frends! Send me, please, torrent this movie!!!! Best regards from Russia!
Keef19661 2 months ago
さだままさしw
aoizeal 2 months ago
明治時代にキスなんてするのかね～？
hyakunennzyuutaku 2 months ago
@hyakunennzyuutaku ヒント：接吻という日本語
thejuggernaut951 2 months ago
@hyakunennzyuutaku
江戸時代の春画でもしてまっせ
BL4580 1 month ago
この映画はTBSでドラマ化されたんだよ！
あの頃のTBSは気合はいってたんだよなぁ～
hotchocolate1147 2 months ago
この203高地を落とした事で、日本海海戦が有利になりました。
もし落とせなかったら、日本は、ロシアの植民地になった可能性が、
高いと思います。
多くの死んでいった兵士の皆様に感謝します。
yumesky223 2 months ago
日本海大海戦（1969年東宝）の能天気な203高地、旅順攻略とは大違いだな（笑）
あれはあれで好きだけど。
m565a13 2 months ago
今の堕落した日本を見たらこの頃の日本人はどう思うだろうか？
この頃の日本人はh本当にすごかった！！！！
TOMARIN1667 3 months ago 3
今の日本人にはこの勇気と決断力はないね。竹島を韓国に奪われてもへらへらし、日本人が北朝鮮に拉致されても政府は無抵抗、中国は尖閣諸島海域を自分の庭のように航海している。ここまで舐めきられてもやっぱり国家も国民も何もしない。明治の日本人が流した血は何のためだったのか。悲しくなるばかりです。いかに大日本帝国が国家として立派であり、誇りある民族であったことか。この映画を見るたびに感じます。
hiroyuki1403 3 months ago 17
Запомните, Россия никому не прощает поражений!
Сто лет назад за поражение поплатился император Николай.
Сталин взял реванш.
Но народ помнит. И только попробуй япония укусить "северные территории" - получит войну, и не станет Японии!
Russianvarvar 3 months ago
@Russianvarvar
Не пиши херню, друг, очень прошу.
BalashovM 2 months ago
@BalashovM Russia miserably lost this war, what a shame :)
skreczujacasurykatka 1 month ago
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@skreczujacasurykatka
Fuuuuck... about what did you say? Do you try to troll me?
BalashovM 1 month ago
@skreczujacasurykatka Yeap, many Poles fought in this war. Slava to all Slavic soldiers died in this war.
RedMichail 1 month ago
@RedMichail Not so many Poles, especially Polish officers and soldiers from military conscription (the Congress Kingdom of Poland to 100 000 soldiers, of which one quarter had a chance to participate in the fight). Rather, no Pole would not participate in it because it was not Polish case but Russian imperialism. Poles as the subjects were forced to meet their obligations.
skreczujacasurykatka 1 month ago
@skreczujacasurykatka Dude in Russian "Branka" they took mainly pesant and poor peoples. Congress Kingdom had Professional Army from times of Great Prince Konstanty. From my books written by serious historical publishers, "Mówią Wieki" it is clear that the carat had mobilized about 50 thousand. Poles to fight mostly in Siberian units. Half of those men never came back to Poland. See Jerzy Wołkowicki the greatest hero of the war in Tsarist and Soviet Russia.
RedMichail 1 month ago
@RedMichail Mówią Wieki to raczej nie najlepsze źródło, by brać z niego przykład lepiej zajrzyj do jakiejś monografii a nie do czasopisma.Co do branki to raczej zwyczaj ten utrzymał się do powstania styczniowego (generalnie do początku II poł. XIX w.) w momencie gdy Rosyjskie Wojsko przeprowadziło w latach 70 XIX w. istotne reformy wojskowe prowadzące do stworzenia nowoczesnej armii na miarę tamtych lat, dlatego nie istniało już coś takiego jak branka i kantoniści nie było potrzebne
skreczujacasurykatka 1 month ago
@skreczujacasurykatka Zależy od autora artykułu. Po reformach armijnych liczbę lat powoli zmniejszano. Z 25 do 20 z 20 do 15 itp aż zostało 5 lat służby co z kolei zredukowano na czas trwania konfliktu. Wojsko rosyjskie do dzisiejszego dnia przeprowadza brankę tyle że nie jest to już tak restrykcyjna forma powołania jak podczas powstań. WR w stanie pokojowym liczyło 1,1 mln żołnierzy a na dalekim wschodzie 150tys.
RedMichail 1 month ago
@skreczujacasurykatka Liczba ta bynajmniej nie wystarczała do zatrzymania wojsk Imperium Japońskiego więc żołnierzy dostarczano codziennie 4 eszelonami do stacji końcowych takich jak Dalnyj. Docelowo w rejon zainteresowania miano przerzucić 1,2 mln żołnierzy. Okręgi poborowe istniejące także w Kongresówce przewidywały powołanie pod broń 60 tys. żołnierzy z czego udało się powołać około 50tys z powodu zwyczajowego ruskiego bałaganu i szybkiego zakończenia działa wojennych.
RedMichail 1 month ago
@skreczujacasurykatka Trudno mi teraz powołać się na jakieś dokumenty bo nie umieszczono tego na internecie a Polacy niezbyt interesują się "nie swoimi wojnami". Jednak na odkrywcy jest zatrzęsienie medali za wojnę rosyjsko japońską z w jakiś sposób obrazuje ogrom siły Polskiej wysłanej na daleki wschód.
RedMichail 1 month ago
@RedMichail Po prostu wygoggluj sobie pod tytułem Polacy w wojnie rosyjsko-japońskiej a szczątkowo dowiesz się najważniejszy rzeczy. Dobrym kompendium wiedzy jest: Morskaja kampanija,Morskaja kołliekcija,Bojewyje korabli mira,Midiel szpangout,Stapiel,Eskadra,Istorija woorużenij w knigach: Fłot. No i źródła: CAW, Archiwum Państwowe, Russkij Inwalid, Prasa lokalna z okresu wojny 1904-5. A. Zbierski"Udział Polaków w wojnie rosyjsko-japońskiej na morzu w latach 1904- 1905"
skreczujacasurykatka 1 month ago
@skreczujacasurykatka Z pewnością przeczytam i dziękuję za podanie tytułów ;-)
Ze swojej strony polecam "Cuszimę" Nowikowa-Priboja (niby powieść ale zawarte jest w niej niezwykłe multum wypowiedzi Polaków na temat tej wojny). Wujkowi Google nie dowierzam i surfuję tylko po sprawdzonych stronach. A o polakach opisani są tylko i wyłącznie niektóry oficerowie, jak podjadę do ciotki z Krasnojarska to może poczytam coś w ichniejszych bibliotekach. Pozdrawiam!
RedMichail 1 month ago
仲代達也の乃木にかなり泣かされた...完璧です
SAKURACHROME 3 months ago
日本映画の金字塔。仲代の乃木は、はまり役だった。旅順攻防戦は、永遠に語り継がれるだろう。
garireogarireiable 4 months ago 6
The reason why Japan fought agaist Russia was that Russia advanced the Korean peninsula to get the right of military base. At the time LIAOTUNG of China was already Russian colony. Japan was afraid of security of TSUSHIMA AND KYUSHU. If so Japan would be disappeared. So Japan must fought agaist Russia for Korea.At the time Korea could not decide the choice Japan or Russia. But Japan won. Korea sidled up to Japan to join the annexation. If Korea choose Russia, Korea must be colony of Russia.
kaisermuto 4 months ago
@kaisermuto У России никогда не было колоний, в отличии от западного мира.
Япония напала на Россию, как нападала на всех соседей.
Россия не победила Японию из-за первой русской революции.
Затем Япония напала на Китай и на США.
Russianvarvar 3 months ago
извиняюсь перед русскими камрадами, но для англоязычных идиотов нужно объяснять тупо и доходчиво, ибо дебилы.
Russianvarvar 3 months ago
嘘つきのアジア人にはなりたくない。
横柄な欧米人とは付き合いたくない。
日本人は道を開く為に今ある。私はそう思っている
cruiserMaya 5 months ago 2
i have this english dubbed
spannick 5 months ago
@spannick where download this movie and eng dubbs?
skreczujacasurykatka 1 month ago
@spannick Give us a link then =)
jaSindar 2 weeks ago
i have the movie but i dont have eng sub for this movie :(, anyone help me find this, please!!!
gunrose123 5 months ago
the war between Japan and Russia, the battlefield was the land of China...
Both of them were invaders only, but not Hero.
quatroandfao 5 months ago
2.38 Католический, а не православный священник
Karel69482 5 months ago
コレ、戦後にできた反戦映画？コレを見た者は、「天皇陛下と日露戦争」をみて、命と平和の尊さだけでなく愛国と防国の尊さも学ぶべきだ！
mgs0jal9hawks 6 months ago
戦場の無惨さの描写は途中吐きたくなるぐらい凄いよ
KurayoshiIchinotani 6 months ago
先ほどこの映画を見終えた。感動で身ぶるいがする思いだよ。ちゃんと十分にこの手の邦画を見ているわけじゃないけど、この映画はおそらく、他の日本の戦争映画とは別格だと思う。日露戦争は日本が勝利をつかんだ戦だけど、この映画は勝利の感動はまるで与えてくれない。戦争の持つ力、戦うことの尊厳というベースの上に、無惨な戦場の現実、戦場の狂気、それから内地の狂気、全部リアルにフィルムに収めていて、さらに戦争の中の余興、憎しみの中の武士道・騎士道、そしてそれが裏切られて行く姿までまんべんなく描いている。観終わって映画の持つ力を改めて思い知った気がした。それが強い感動を与えてくれた。
この映画では乃木希典を英雄としては描いてないね。むしろ乃木大将の持っていたであろう弱さを克明に描いてる感じだった。一方の児玉源太郎にかっこいい役は全部持たせてたね。これを演じる丹波哲郎がね、もうね、カッコよさがね、マジパないんです・・・・・！
惚れた・・・
KurayoshiIchinotani 6 months ago 29
has anyone found that the firing of the canons sounds like that in star blazers?
tomshyu 6 months ago
ロシアと日本のすべての英霊の安らかなるを祈る。命をかけて戦った者たちの祖国に栄光あれ。
tangeko1 6 months ago 3
當日俄戰爭時, 慈禧太后做什麼?
tpsyclone2008 6 months ago
Им историю учить не надо. Если они будут ее знать, то им придется признать славу Российской империи и победу Советского Союза. А так, среднестатистический япошка или пиндос - патриотичный быдло-русофоб. В Японии даже денацификации не провели, как в Германии.
MyFeldsher 7 months ago
坂の上の雲はよくできてはいるけど、あくまで小説で史実じゃないんだけどなあ～ｗ乃木も伊地知も当時としては至極全うな戦い方しかしてないし、特別に批判されるほどの無能な人間とは思えないんだけどねえ
その証拠に第2回総攻撃では第1回総攻撃の戦訓を生かして、二八センチ砲を使ったり塹壕を掘ったりしてるしね。
この映画でも当の伊地知が言ってたけど、あれだけの近代的大要塞を攻めるにしては火力も兵員も不足してたんだよ。
要塞化された敵陣地を攻める苦労はｗｗⅡの硫黄島を見ればわかるけど、あれだけの兵員数と火力の差に加えて、日露戦争時にはない戦闘機やら戦車まで動員してさえ、米軍は守備側の日本軍を上回る損害を出したんだから、言い方は悪いが、旅順の日本軍の損害対効果は悪くはなかったと思うんだけどいかがでしょうか？ｗ
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640
同意です。司馬史観を事実と思い違いされてる方が多いですね。
司馬遼太郎はたいへん優れた歴史小説家ではありますが、歴史学者ではありませんから。
Gomat666 7 months ago
@kerttksk001849
乃木叩きは的外れで、実際には海軍の無理な要求と近代要塞の恐ろしさを当時の人間が理解してなかったことによる悲劇が一番でかいんだけどなあ
10年後の第一次大戦のベルダンでも日露戦争の戦訓なんぞほとんど無視して、仏独が70万の死傷者を出したことを考えれば、6万の死傷者を多いと考えるか少ないと考えるかは難しいところでしょう？
ppg1640 7 months ago
I have watched the movie, it is unusual view, not bad but the way, but it is full of stereotypes, which has nothing common with reality. The russian uniform does not look correct, and I have not noticed a single person that will look like russian soldure, they all more like gypsy. This movie is more like fiction than like historical.Interesting that Japaneese officers liked Leo Tolstoy, inspite of the war.
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
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ppg1640 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
>gypsy LOL
> Japaneese officers liked Leo Tolstoy LOL LOL
You are so humorous guy and I can agree with you in this comment. When this movie was released(1980), Russia was unfamiliar to Japanese(and even now). But When I watched Russian movie 'ORDER:TO CROSS THE FRONTIER', I cant understandwhat 'Japanese solders' said.
Anyway we are in the same boat.
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 )) Do the children learn russian literature in school?
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
Yes, but his literature is too difficult for children. So we learnt his literatures digest. I guess he is the most famous man of letters in Japan in spite of foreigner. But I dont think his works affect this film because the war movie which praise of heros(sound like Hollywood) have been taboo in Japan. In short, 'Tolstoys officer' is usual solder in Japanse film. I think this tendency carry too far in Japan(the exact opposite to Hollywood).
ppg1640 7 months ago
やっぱり乃木の責任なの？日本人には無理だな、人海戦術なんて。
hashimotomd 7 months ago
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azumaxx 7 months ago
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azumaxx 7 months ago
清国人が満州へのロシアの侵略を自分達で阻止していたら、日本がロシアと戦う事はなかった。己が先祖の不甲斐なさを日本のせいにするなよ馬鹿中国人どもよ！
hiroyuki1403 8 months ago 29
大日本帝国万歳
中華犬と朝鮮白丁は黙ってろ
jasons758 9 months ago 2
映画の冒頭、満州の荒野で銃殺される横川省三と沖禎介のことはもっと日本人に知ってほしい史実です。日露戦争が決して政治家や軍人だけの戦いではなかったというひとつの証しとして。
Mrkensogol 11 months ago 14
japanese having heavy casualties but they got port arthur
transpose1000 11 months ago
@transpose1000 they did...Not for long time thour...Revenge had come soon and Quantun empereror armu was destroyed by russians for 2 weeks.
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
Japaneese losses were 10 to 1 russian in Port Arthur...Common casualties of Japan army here were 110.000, among them 10.000 officers. It took 329 days to make russians to give up.But revenge was epic-in 1945 russians desroyed Quantun Imperor Army ( almost 1 mill people) for 3 weeks...Nothing to be proud of...But you can be proud for your cars and bikes!)
Yaltasa16 1 year ago
@Yaltasa16 Do you think defeating Japan in 1945 to be not the United States but Russia?
The thing that the Soviet Union annulled the Japanese-Soviet neutrality pact and the thing to deprive of south Sakhalin and the Kurile Islands are dishonorable histories.
It is not a war that the Soviet Union went in August, 1945. It is a theft from the half dead.
buonaparte11 9 months ago
@buonaparte11 Man, I don't think this question bothers Japan nowdays. Every country uses weakness of their neighbour.
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
@Yaltasa16
The breaking treaty without approval isnt strategy but cut off from the world.Every countries hate the shameless man who talk a haphazard remark,sound like you! In short,you russians are mere liars!
ppg1640 8 months ago
@ppg1640 Japan always thought tha they are special and the best nation. Now, read what they did during the war with China...Still civilized nation?? Have not they used the weakness of their neighbour to seize their territories?They acted lke animals, so shut up telling me who Russians are, you have so many black spots in your history that you can't judge anyone esle so shut up and do something useful.Besides, Stalin was obliged to start war accfording to the results of Yalta conference!
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
@Yaltasa16
> Now, read what they did during the war with China...Still civilized nation??
First,trigger of Sino-Japanese War was thought that the Communist Party of China had provoked Japan for fight with the Kuomintang of China. Anyway Japan wasnt pick a quarrel with China at first. Second,if you think utilization of weakness isnt shame,why did Russian put down Katyn massacre to Nazi?In short,Russian was afraid that other countries would despise them because of their mean!?
ppg1640 8 months ago
@ppg1640 oh yes, they provoke you to invade their territory?Katyn-there is still no proov that it was made by russians!the facts are too contradicitive there.
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
@Yaltasa16
Manchuria which was dominated by Japan wasnt Chinese(Han Chinese) territory. So to speak,it was unhibited territory. In that days, China was lawless zone and Japan was involved in their civil war(sound like recent Afghan). And you dont understand chinese(Han) history and their ethnic character. Anyway your information about Asian history is too shortage to have a discussion with me.
ppg1640 8 months ago
@ppg1640 come on, in the eve of the second world war Russia also had war with Japan in Manchuria and japaneese retreated
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
@ppg1640 By the way, you tell that Russia was so mean do unleash the war with Japan despite they had treaty, but Soviet Union denounced it in april 5 1945 and declared war to Japan in august 8. Japan did not declare war to the States in Pearl Harbour, so who is mean???Russia had to start war with Japan after they were done with Germany according to the Potsadam conference and coaliton treaty
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
@Yaltasa16 According to Wiki. in april 5 1945 Russian Foreign minister made sure that the treaty was valid until April in 1946. Because it was written clearly so in the treaty. Declaration of war with Japan when the traty was valid is obviously a violation of the treaty. You can not dispute about this. As to Pearl harbor attack, you may blame Japanese foreign Ministry, not Japanse army and people.
hashimotomd 8 months ago
@hashimotomd Ha-ha, well, then don't blame Russia in anything and don't demand the islands back. Blame Stalin...Ha-ha-ha, you are to sly in your arguments
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16 I cannnot get what you mean. Japan and the US did not make a treaty such as Japan and Soviet. Pearl Harbor attack before the declaration of war was just a mistake of JPN Foreign Ministry. But invasion of Soviet is obviously the violation of the treaty. Do yuou have any objections? You mention of Germany. But in August 1945 Germany as an ally of Japan had already disappeared. Do you think the Axis is valid now?
hashimotomd 7 months ago
@hashimotomd Yes, but Russia declared the war in advance and why you blame them for that? any country may daclare war at any time, fair or not, that is how things work.At least they declared it and Japaneese had not!!!So, blaming us, blame yourself first, otherwise you would like to show how russians bad and how poor angels japaneese are...Bull shit
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
Calm down! Your topic is inconherence. OK,I talk about my idea of Russian attack in 1945. First, Battles of Khalkhin Gol had nothing to do with it because it was cease fire in 1939.Second, most of Japanese dont think Pearl Harbor was validity whether they think correct in moral or not . By the way,did Russian have an obligation to attack to Japan? This story is too strange because Russian could refusal to this demand. In short, they gave priority to their interest.
ppg1640 8 months ago
@ppg1640 You ask obvious questions.First-Japan was the closest ally of Germany which was our first priority enemy.Our enemy's friend=our enemy.Secondly, every country wants to protect their interest and it is not bad at all.Third, if Russia would not have started the war with Japan, then those islands could be american or british and we don't want to have common borders with those countries.Now,talking about Khalkin Gol, lots of historicans think that soviet victory there showed to Japan to stop
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
>Our enemy's friend=our enemy
I am so surprized to this comment. Because We Japanese think diplomacy isnt such simple! Is this Russian joke?
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 It'kk never do to joke when it occurs the massacre war. I have noticed that sometimes I have to repeat my argument over and over before you get it. When there is a war and one of your neignbour is the closest friend of your enemy you always need to take precautions to be ready for any scenario, especially when you have already learnt the lesson when war starts on sunday without any warning inspite of any treaty.
Talking about Finland is shame how stupid soviet generals were but simple
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@ppg1640 but simple russian soldure always showed the best moral qualities and bravety.What can you expect if Stalin destroyed the best proffesional officers in the eve of the second world war?Soviets learnt how to be successful in war only by 1943. And don't forget the fact, that at the time wheb the war started Russia started military modernization reformas that only ended in 1942
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@ppg1640 their expansion to the east and to start it to the south, Japan respected only the strong answers on their actions and if they were more lucky in Khalkin Gol they could have opened the second front in the most dangerous situation when Germans were not far from Moscow, and we had to keep the whole army in the east to prevent any japaneese possability.american generals confirmed the fact that if Russia would not join`the war, they could loose 1 mill people and the war could last till 1947
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16 Which do your nation prefer, peace or war violating the peace treaty? The discussion is summarized this. I think keeping the remote island does not pay for Russia. By the way, is a broadband such as an optical fiber available in your country? Can you watch the You Tube without feeling impatient?
hashimotomd 7 months ago
@hashimotomd Man, I feel quite easy, but I stand my ground and don't think that I behave myself inappropriate unless someone had not started to offend me or my country first. If you have noticed I discuss the topic with you qiute normally. Every historical side and fact can be illuminated differently
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16 That is good. I think it is a justice for Russia to return the northern territory to Japan. It will help ease Japanese distrust of Russia. We Japanese are often surprised by the excuse of the communist or Russian.
hashimotomd 7 months ago
@hashimotomd
I guess he will confuse speculation with fact. To make matters worse, he will confuse with dates too! In short, he translates the fact or guess as advantageous to Russian. U～mmm… If he is a person of average Russian, We cant make friends with them eternally!
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 WE DONT care are you going to be among our friends or among our enemies. Don't be so self-confident, we will be able to protect our land, especially now, when your country is damaged by the nature...So, don't be rediculous and fix the freacking atomic stations and stop polluting the ocean with nuclear water. I can't believe how stupid you are, the nature almost destroyed your country and you still think about those islands, you r pathetic
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@ppg1640 Who do you mean by "he"? I am confused. Of course a war is legal to resolve the dispute, but Soviet broke the nonaggregatin treaty, it is a serious crime against peace. I want to know how you think about this. You seem to justify the invasion of Soviet. I am surprised. If Germany had won, you would willingly accept Soviet was colonized and extinguished by Germany.
hashimotomd 7 months ago
@hashimotomd
> it is a serious crime against peace.
I agree with you.
>If Germany had won, you would willingly accept Soviet was colonized and extinguished by Germany.
This comment is too strange because I didnt say 'I love NAZI'. But I think Soviet should had collapsed more early. So I think Ronald Reagan who knocked Soviet down was real hero for all the world. LOL
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 Yes, he is a hero, so kiss his dead ass. Also you may kiss one more american ass, who nuked two japaneese cities. Everything in your head is upside down.What was worse-to take two small islands or to destroy two crowded cities? dumb ass
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
Please tolerate me because I didnt know you are so childish. LOL
>destroy two crowded cities
To be sure,they were our worst enemy but they are our friend now. And international relations have been continuing to change.Anyway they protect us from Russia or China. They save us when we suffered for disaster on this spring. What did Russian do for their alliances, sound like Poland or Czech? They were pushed silly communism and if they opposed to Russia, they were ran over by tanks!
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 USA never does anything for free, they always look for profit. Yes, communism sucks but you are wrong if you think that Soviet union just used tanks to calm down people. Soviet Union invested huge amount of money in many republics of former union. They build lots if industrial factories that still work. And talking about military action, Soviet Union as well as Russian Empire never left their alliance alone in dangerous situations.Lots of examples durinf the 1 ww and 2ww as well
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
>Soviet Union invested huge amount of money
Hey,Its a liberty of Russian. Did Polish or Czech hope to it?
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 Хорошо, КНР сотрёт с лица земли три города, и японцы станут лучшими друзьями китайцев!)))
5041242 4 months ago
@ppg1640 I am sorry if it hurt you. I know of the hardship your country went through such as the dictatorship of Stahkin, invasion by Germany, the nuke disaster.
hashimotomd 7 months ago
@ppg1640 "северные территории" никогда не будут японскими, они будут китайскими, и там будут военная база НОАК, а японцы будут покупать в огромных количествах лекарство от поноса и снотворное, особенно на Хоккайдо!
5041242 4 months ago
@hashimotomd I think we will not give anything back unless Russia will not want it. Your threats will not work with such country as Russia...WE won, we got what we wanted. IN 1904-1905 you won and got what you wanted. Revenge came,,,,Everything is fair...And stop crying like little baby again and again about those islands
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
@Yaltasa16
>Khalkin Gol
I dont mind you interpret this incident as realization of Russian victory and justice.By the way,do you know Russia was suffered for a considerable loss? In 1990s,they announced 24000 lost and this is 3 times they announced before. Absurdly, they attacked Finland shortly and they lost over 300000 solders. This failure influenced WW2 because Nazi thought Russian was weakness. In short, Russian had never acted cleverly as you expect. LOL
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 About the losses check wiki and stop talking nonsence. You could not take Port arthur for a long time even when russian army had suffered because of the revoltion...Read the memuars of your command in chief when at last they entered Port-Arthur.
Yaltasa16 7 months ago
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ppg1640 7 months ago
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@Yaltasa16
OK OK Please calm down! Your commnet is too long… I can understand you have many insistances for me but I am so tired that I cant reply all your comments…sorry! To be honest, your commnet make me tired as a Japanese but you will be seriously. By the way, I suggest that 'we' talk about only 'Port Aurthor' because other political terms make a quarrel and get out of hand.
And I recommned you read 'On War' by Carl von Clausewitz, not wikipedia.
ppg1640 7 months ago
@ppg1640 Если б русские на фронте потеряли в три раза больше солдат, то страны оси , не проиграли бы войну. СССР мобилизовал 31 млн чел, Германия 24 млн, без учёта союзников и коллаборационистов, как прибалты, которые вошли в общие потери СССР.
А 24.000 на Халхин-голе, это общие с санитарными, не корректно сравнивать с японскими у которых отсутствую санитарные потери, которых не могло не быть.
5041242 4 months ago
@ppg1640 СССР поступил с японской империй также, как она поступала прошедшие 40 лет, так что смешно, когда японцы называют кого-то лжецом, когда самым большим вором являются японцы, и самые большие лжецы японцы, Фукусима показала это.
5041242 4 months ago
@5041242
中国人だかロシア人だかよくわからないあなたへ
まずあなたに言いたいことがあるのなら、できれば相手(つまり私)のわかる言語で書くこと(英語か日本語)
次にまとまりのない文章をいくつも分けてだらだら書くのは、日本や西欧ではあまり利口には見えないので、要点をはっきり書くこと(ロシア人と中国人には特にこういう下手な文章が多い！)
最後に意味不明なことをガタガタ言ってるようですが、北方領土は違法にロシアが盗んだものだし、ご自分の国籍すらまともに名乗れないような人間が人を嘘つき呼ばわりとは笑止ですな(笑)
誰がどうみても言い訳のできない火事場泥棒を、足りない頭で必死に正当化しようとするからロシア人は余計に頭が悪く見えてしまうのです(中国のチベット問題も同じ)。
同じ嘘つきでも、アメリカ人やらイギリス人ははるかに利口に見える(笑)
せめてアメリカ人並みに頭の良く見える嘘のつき方でも勉強したらいかがでしょうか(苦笑)？
ppg1640 3 months ago
@ppg1640 Япония надорвётся и порвёт свою алочную пасть, требуя "северные территории" (южные куриилы), 独島 ( ), а также придётся ответить за украденные 釣魚台群島 (尖閣諸島). Все соседи японии знают какие вы лживые твари, никто вас не защитит от законного возмездия соседей. Можешь дальше улыбаться!
5041242 3 months ago
@5041242
せめて英語じゃなきゃわからんよ(English Please!) 何やら日本の領土問題をガタガタ言ってるみたいだけど
1竹島(独島)問題は、日本の敗戦で軍事的に日本が手出しできないことを良いことに韓国が竹島(独島)を強奪したのが問題→北方領土や1939年にナチスに敗れたポーランド領を強奪したソ連の真似です
2尖閣諸島(釣魚台群島)問題は、天然ガスが出ると知った中国が、歴史的経緯も無視して領有権を主張してます→もうこんなの問題外！
あのね、言っておくけど軍事的にまともにやり合えば竹島(独島)だろうが、尖閣諸島(釣魚台群島)だろうがあっという間に日本は中国だの韓国だのを叩きのめすことができちゃうの！しかし軍事力にものをいわせて問題を解決するやり方は世界各国の不信を買い(ちょうど今のロシアや中国のように)、結果として得する部分がないから話し合いでなんとかしようとしているわけなんだよ。人が大人しいからって、調子に乗ってんじゃねーぞ、おまえら！？
ppg1640 3 months ago
@ppg1640 Весь мир видит, как обнаглевшие джапы имеют территориальные споры со всеми соседями, и делают из этого выводы. Курилы не японские, а айнские территории, которому до недавнего времени было отказано в существовании в японии, народ подвергался ассимиляции, а до этого дискриминации. Японцам сколько островов не передавай, всё будут мало, поэтому японцы ничего не получат а здохнут от своего яда.
5041242 3 months ago
@5041242
都合の良いときだけ韓国やらアイヌやら普段見向きもしない話題を出すんだな(苦笑) 少なくとも日本にいる彼らはおまえらの国の少数民族より遥かにまともな生活をしているがな(少数民族であることを理由に暴力を振るわれることなど我が国では考えられないからな) それにしても君はいったい何をやりたいのかな？ とりあえず君は日本語も英語もできないみたいだし、Googleの翻訳じゃ半分も君の言ってることは理解できないよ(理解できても大したことを書いてないのは確かだが…) まあこんなところで意味のない罵倒を会ったこともない日本人に言ってないで、今度は君の嫌いな日本人を徹底して言い負かすために英語と歴史の勉強でもしたらどうだね？ その方がまだ前向きだよ(笑)
ppg1640 3 months ago
@ppg1640 Национальным меньшинствам, нужно, что б в их дела и их уклад жизни меньше влазили всякие "старшие братья". Впрочем, уровень жизни яйнов значительно ниже, чем у японцев.
5041242 3 months ago
@Yaltasa16
＞Common casualties of Japan army here were 110.000, among them 10.000 officers
Its a mistake.In Port Arthur,casualties of Japanese were 60000 and russians were 18000(3:1).This result wasnt amazing because offense exposed to fire without shield. If win and loss of war were decided by the number of casualities only,winner of Eastern Front of ww2 would German. Please wrote to correct information.
ppg1640 8 months ago
@ppg1640 check wikipedia but not projapaneese historican....
Yaltasa16 8 months ago
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@Yaltasa16
>check wikipedia but not projapaneese historican....
I didnt expect that Russian teach me how to learn of history. LOL
By the way,did you know how Nazi evaluated Russian Army?
They said 'Russian reported 3 times military results and 1/3 times loss to Stalin'. In short, Even a Nazi thought Russian has been told a lie as half measure.
ppg1640 8 months ago
Слава защитникам Порт-Артура!
Вечная память павшим на поле брани!
Через сорок лет Квантунскую армию наши деды за неделю разгромили.
Russianvarvar 1 year ago 2
@Russianvarvar
Нет.
Соединенные Штаты.
kaguranoharu5 9 months ago
@kaguranoharu5 , учи историю, баран. Меринанское чмо сколько возилось со сраным Гуадалнаналом, и какое количество японских войск было в Квантунской армии. Какие фронты её громили.
Так что молчи, дурак, за умного сойдешь!
Russianvarvar 8 months ago
@kaguranoharu5 Учите историю.
Квантунскую армию за неделю разгромили войска 1-го и 2-го Дальневосточных и Забайкальский фронты, а Соединенные Штаты здесь вообще не при делах.
И Япония капитулировала именно после вступления в войну Советского Союза, без этого, по оценкам пиндосов война продолжалась бы еще года два.
Russianvarvar 7 months ago
@Russianvarvar
細かいことで問答しても無意味です。
予測に予測を返してもこれまた無意味です。
よって一言 "Рыцарство"
kaguranoharu5 6 months ago
@kaguranoharu5 Естественно, диалог смысла не имеет, пока вы хоть немного не почитаете и не попытаетесь вникнуть в суть вопроса.
Но вы меня знатно рассмешили, когда заявили что Квантунскую армию разгромили Соединенные Штаты.
Вы в плену американской пропаганды.
Кстати, в 1904 русские обороняли Порт-Артур 7 месяцев, а в 1945 взяли его через семь дней.
Russianvarvar 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar
Вы в плену русской пропаганды.
大国同士の戦争が僅かな期間で終わるものではない。
実質的には既に終わっていたんです。
ソ連の行為は恥ずべきであり、誇れるものではない。
kaguranoharu5 6 months ago
@kaguranoharu5
1. Участвовала ли Квантунская армия в боях с 1941 по август 1945 года? Нет!
2. Была ли она укомплектована личным составом, вооружением, техникой, боеприпасами и материальными запасам? Да!
3. Смогла ли она оказать сопротивление Советской Армии? Нет!
4. Выполнила ли она боевую задачу? Нет.
Вы говорите, что Советский Союз подло напал на Японию.
А когда Япония нападала не подло на другие страны? И в 1904 и в 1941 войны начались с подлой атаки японского флота.
Russianvarvar 6 months ago
@kaguranoharu5
Не вам говорить о подлости.
Российская и Советская армия не воевала с мирными жителями.
Кто сбросил бомбы на Хиросиму и Нагасаки?
Кто устроил резню мирного населения в Нанкине?
Кто ковровыми бомбардировками уничтожил Кёльн и Дрезден?
Кто изобрел первый концлагерь?
А когда пришло время повоевать с настоящим противником, а не резать безоружных китайцев Квантунская армия обосралась.
Russianvarvar 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar
誤った知識が混じってます。
正しい知識を身に付けてください。
kaguranoharu5 6 months ago
@kaguranoharu5 Вот я и несу правильные знания в массы, одураченные американской пропагандой.
У Вас в Японии есть хорошие историки и хорошие источники, читайте их, не ленитесь.
Russianvarvar 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar
"Нанкин", китайской пропаганды!!
kaguranoharu5 6 months ago
@kaguranoharu5
Да что вы говорите?
А вырезанное китайское население Порт-Артура во время японо-китайской войны тоже китайская пропаданда?
И фотографии, гда японские офицеры рубят головы китайцам тоже китайская пропаганда?
А вспоротые животы изнасилованных японскими солдатами китайских женщин тоже китайская пропаганда?
А людоедский обряд "киматори" тоже китайская пропаганда?
Russianvarvar 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar
Нанкин
kaguranoharu5 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar
ロシア人も中国人が根っからの嘘つきということは知ってるはずだ。ところが中国人の嘘を都合が良いときだけ信じるが、普段はロシア国内では当の中国人を馬鹿にして差別する。こういう態度を'偽善'といって、最も日本人が軽蔑し、馬鹿にする態度だ。よく覚えておいたほうが良い。
ppg1640 6 months ago 4
@ppg1640 Нападение без объявления войны 25 июля 1894 года на китайцев - китайская ложь и пропаганда?
Подлое нападение на Порт-Артур русская ложь и пропаганда?
Подлое нападение на Монголию в мае 1939 года у Халхин-гола (Номон-Хан) монгольская ложь и пропаганда?
Подлое нападение на Перл-Харбор - Американская ложь и пропаганда?
Совесть имейте и не отрицайте очевидного, Япония нападала на всех соседей всегда без объявления войны. Жестокость японских военных так же известна всем.
Russianvarvar 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar
クリミヤ戦争でトルコに先に手を出したのはロシアではなかったのですか(笑)？じゃあポーランドがナチスに占領されたとき、後から火事場泥棒をやった恥知らずはだれでしょうか？あなたの大好きな中国が1894年の戦争で日本に負けて苦しんでいたとき、満州やら遼東半島をまんまと盗んだ泥棒はだれでしょう？1945年の日本から、火事場泥棒をやっぱりやったのはだれでしょう？我が国では泥棒を正当化する習慣はないものでね(笑) ところでロシアがそんなに悪い日本をやっつけたかったのなら、1941年の6月か7月でも良いと思いますが、なんで1945年の8月なのでしょうか？(笑)
ppg1640 6 months ago
@Russianvarvar ,ну как насчёт Финской?Катынь,Брест?
MrYukios 5 months ago
@MrYukios А что было в Бресте?
5041242 4 months ago
@Russianvarvar ,ну а как насчёт Финской?Катынь,Брест?
MrYukios 5 months ago
@ppg1640 兩個強盜在中國打仗，結果還恨中國人不給他們讓出地方，世界上有這種強盜麼？有，日本人！
wangbolinful 1 month ago
@Russianvarvar вроде бы господин Суворов Пугачёва Емельяна мочил,а товарищь Тухачевский крестьян газом травил,врут наверное ......
MrYukios 5 months ago
@MrYukios Мистер интернет-тролль, прежде чем что-то писать, матчасть подучите, дабы бредом своим не смешить народ.
Суворов провел 60 сражений и все выиграл, Пугачева давить надо было, да и бузил он в тылу, когда страна одновременно три войны вела, в финскую кампанию РККА свою задачу выполнила, Катынь же - либерастическая пропаганда, на хера, скажите НКВДшникам стрелять поляков из винтовок "Маузер", ежели на вооружении мосинки? Брест вообще ни к селу ни к городу приплели. Читайте документы.
Russianvarvar 5 months ago
日本人和俄国人都是畜生。
tige33r 1 year ago
日本が負けてたら文句言う相手がロシアに変わってたでしょ
だからこんな言い争いは無益だよ
weww1232 1 year ago
@weww1232 ロシアだったら、文句の一つでも言ったら、朝鮮人なんて地球上が抹殺されてたよ。そういう意味でロシアに統治されてた方が良かったかな。
SAMURAIHEARTX3 11 months ago 2
203之戰日本軍武士道精神讓俄軍喪膽 ! !
w570102 1 year ago
腰抜け中国人は死滅しろ
MrMosinnagan12 1 year ago
あおい輝彦撮影当時29か～
今の２９にこの鬼神の如き演技出来る奴いないよ。
Natsukir 1 year ago 3
清国はヨーロッパの列強に領土を捧げた馬鹿民族！さぞや日本の近代史がうらやましいだろう。先祖が不甲斐ないと子孫は精神が屈折し歴史の真実を直視できずに捏造を繰り返す。自国の安全を他国に委ねている今の日本は当時の清国や李氏朝鮮に良く似ている。自分達の平和と安全を己の血で守り抜いた明治日本を今の日本人は学ぶ必要がある。
hiroyuki1403 1 year ago
The birth of Japan as a major power
MrTennesseeVols 1 year ago
This seems like a really good movie. would really appreciate it if you could put this movie on youtube but with english subtitles. I would like to see this movie from beginning to end.
Bobby0787 1 year ago 6
@Bobby0787 i would like everyone to see it, but i have never seen it anywhere with english subs or even dub (a dub exists, but no idea where it was released.)
spannick 1 year ago 2
@Bobby0787
This is a really great movie. People want to see us in the world. Reveals hidden suffering of Japanese militarism true. But I think it's each person is classified as anti-war movie. Will fight me think what it means. The song is"SAKIMORI-NO-UTA" "SAKIMORI" has a meaning and soldiers protecting the border.
I'm sorry in strange English.
rodes99 6 months ago