The One Plane Golf Swing. Presented by Golfzone.

[rockdh1]

Sorry about the predictive text bloody phones

[rockdh1]

I recently had a lesson before watching this and lowered my send to be on plane with my shoulders this easily added 15-20 teddy in my ave drive going from 240-250 to 260-270 still git loads to improve on but its helped.me get to more par 5 in 2 and short irons into long par 4s I'm a 9hcp

[71rgb]

If only it was as easy as it looks!

[johngolfi]

I feel kinda bad for those who say that Mr Hogan wasn't a one planer, who the hell thinks that? If so explain plz im so intrested to hear...

[GolfSwingFreaktv]

It is important to stretch the hamstrings if bent over more and using one plane swing

[martinigolftees]

neat idea

[zoidberg96913]

@1Luko1 matt kuscher.

[micmayorga]

@zoidberg96913 kuchar*

[juicyfruitzy]

Great vid coach! Ignore the other negative comments. I cannot believe they are criticizing this at all. This is the swing most amateurs should be using to keep things simple and swing efficiently. Thanks for sharing!

[1Luko1]

why do you teach us the one plane swing!?

this is the swing for little children and people that never want to be really good golfers!

and... not a single pro has a one-plane swing.

and by the way... ben hogans swing was also a two-plane...

[Squidward1126]

thanks for showing us how to swing the club douche bag...what kind of crap is this

[random0runescape]

Lol i love the way you cut off him explaining about the book and website at end

[WilliamZuest]

Again, we have a whole posting group of experts. *laugh* at "you must be a chick..." *more laughter* you must be an ignorant, sexist pig, yeah.

[jamegabee]

What i would like to know is why everybody is using the club to describe the swing plane. The plane of the swing has to be in relationship to your body rotation. If you have a one plane action the shoulder and hip rotation are workin gon the same plane. The explanation the guy has given is great he covers all aspects.

One thing i would like to say is this.....why when somebody has an opinion different to your own are they suddenly a "bad" golfer or a once a week golfer????

[1910paul1]

your explanation of the One Plane swing was excellent, thank you !

[subaruturbo25]

haha i can see at frog grow golf couse on video but he work at golf tec can coach swing golf is AAA.

[sp40401]

Gyro911 --- or you completely misinformed or a just an idiot? Here's a short list of ONE plane players; Tiger Woods, Hunter Mayhan, Justin Rose, Scott McCarron, Olin Browne, Tom Pernice Jr., Boo Weekly, Chad Campbell, Matt Kuchar, Don Pooley, Michelle Wie, Joe Ogilvie, Chris Tidland, Sean O'Hair, Steven Ames, Trevor Immelman, Zach Johnson and LEE WESTWOOD to name a few.

Gyro911 ---> Stop posting you putz!

[jalan199]

@sp40401 Tiger Woods is a one planer?? You must be blind. Or obviously you have absolutely no idea what's the difference between 1 and 2 plane swing.

[sp40401]

@jalan199 LMAO -- Not only am I not blind I know exactly what I'm talking about; however, maybe I should have said he's "working on it." Is that specific enough?

[jalan199]

@sp40401 @sp40401 Tiger Woods is a one planer?? You must be blind. Or obviously you have absolutely no idea what's the difference between 1 and 2 plane swing.

[Gyro911]

@sp40401 Speaking of Putz's you do realize that Tiger and all of Sean Foley's student have vertical swing plane.. Only Jonathon Byrd swings like this who gets compared to Hogan due to the horizontal swing plane.

I'd like to see your swing, post and let me have a good laugh. I bet your another weekend golfer without an ounce of athleticism

[sp40401]

@Gyro911 Vertical, as in up & down? What a moron. Foley may not call himself a one-plane teacher but that's what he does. He doesn't want to be lumped in with Hardy b/c he wants to make his own waves which is understandable.

So now your correct b/c all of the people I listed are NOT exactly like Hogan? Changing the subject now? You must be a chick. You said there are hardly any pros "who use this technique."

You are clearly WRONG!

[Gyro911]

@sp40401 Actually Hogans swing was very lateral similar to what this guy is teaching with the elbow folded down chicken wing style. Your clearly blind and a shitty golfer for not noticing that. Foley doesnt teach his guys to do that.. Learn a golf swing before you talk

[micmayorga]

@Gyro911 Foley definitely teaches a one plane swing, moron.

[Gyro911]

Good luck squaring the club face to the Ball with this swing unless your Beh Hogan. In case your wondering why there are hardly any Pro's who use this technique

[baseballmike44]

wonder why he swings with so much damn effort with an iron.. he can reduce his backswing by 50% and hit the ball just as far and make a lot better contact and improve consistency. Interesting.

[moonergolfs]

Great explanation!

[pplschamp325]

I'll save y'all a lot of time and money. Go get "Ben Hogan's five steps: the modern fundamentals of golf"...or something like that. It is a quick read that will guaranteed improve your game and teach you the one plane swing.

[incredible753]

Just hit the fucking ball so we can see your swing

[shawlerstyle]

gr8 video. best explaination ive seen. what about the 2 plane?

[charlton3695]

A traditionally taught FLAT LEFT WRIST in the back-swing creates a two pendulum breakdown between the club head and the major muscles in the shoulders and legs. Therefore, MAXIMUM RADIUS IN THE AVERAGE GOLFER CAN NEVER BE ACCOMPLISHED.

[patkrebsgolf]

@johngolfi, Seriously, Hardy's method is crazy. You all reference Mr. Hogans swing, but when you talk about the one plane swing, you teach and talk about stuff different from what Mr. Hogan did in his own swing and against the very fundamentals that he described. The action of the golf swing happens as Mr. Hogan said, except the plane of the backswing goes more thru his sternum than his shoulders. He didn't need a high speed camera he dug it out of the dirt. Shoulders don't start the downswing.!

[westfork8]

A very well presented orientation. A person can easily put the pieces of this visualization into practice. The feeling of rotation around the spine, coupled with the level turning of the hips is like many other club/racket sports. Stay behind the ball with the 40 degree m/l of tilt, and the turning will bring the club into the back of the ball.

[danthegolfer79]

As a professional golfer I can safely say that this video is the quickest way to confuse normal golfers I have ever seen.

[stewdogg42]

@danthegolfer79 Professional golfer? Sure you are.

[Durs5]

dalton mcready proved that you dont need a backswing to hit a ball any further. Most people over extend, causing the left elbow to fold thus AFFECTING the downswing. Bio mechanically if everyone learnt to hit through a ball on the downswing, then getting to the top is irrelevant. I hit 300 yds when fully powering it, but 275 if i just start at the top. with 60% better accuracy.. Maybe thats why i score 84's ..

[redsoxfreakallover]

Also i jumped ahead to 2:46 and for a second I thought they digitally took your arms out hha

[patkrebsgolf]

There are so many bullet holes in this theory its laughable. Hogan had a very upright posture for this method and he absolutely used his hips and legs athletically better than anybody, even today players. His arm swing with his irons were below his shoulder line and his driver was slightly above his shoulder. Hogan said there was two planes and he was right. You all are chasing your tails.

[johngolfi]

@patkrebsgolf Hogan was pretty short and the one plane swing works like if you are tall you need to bend over the ball more and the shorter you are the less you have to bend over the ball. Hogan was short and therefore he could use a more upright posture. And when Hogan started the down swing he did use his hips and legs alot and that made him come down in a better position whit the arms and shoulders, and finaly Hogan took the club above the plane line and than laid it back on the plane.

[johngolfi]

@patkrebsgolf plus Hogan didn't have so many highspeed cameras if anyone at all, so if he had that and watched his swing in detail he would have tried to get the club more on plane. But anyway he was the best ball stricker ever and they didn't have a systeme caled one or two plane swing, but if you look att modern day golfers

you will see that there are home marks of the one plane swing there. The "fault" golfers do is that they have a mix of the swings

[rpolancot]

This "one plane -around- swing" dont work for me. The time the face is squared to the target line is just too little and gets me very inconsistence. I prefer a more Down the line move with more hips involved. For me a more foregiving swing.

[ilikeitwetto]

i doubt Hogan would would call himself one plane. Look up Mo Norman for 1 plane. its truely awful!!

[nikepumps123]

@ilikeitwetto best ball striker ever though. and one plane has taken on a new meaning since norman

[RelaxedGameplays]

he got wrong grip...

[loughmore09]

Dont watch this it will just confuse you. Its over complicated

[golflegg]

Buy into it or not, this is a wonderful, concise demonstration of some of the basic fundamentals of the One Plane Swing. Because we stand to the side of the ball, it is natural that there would be more than 1 proper way to swing the club to hit straight shots. Imagine how boring it would be if all the best players in the world swung the club in exactly the same manner. I wouldn't even watch! Good job on this video and keep up what you're doing!

[PlottRacing116]

Great video thanks

[TheGolfdu]

his stance is too wide for an iron, perfect for a driver

[Fullkornsglass]

Nice video. Jim Hardy's one-plane-swing well explained.

And yes, Ben Hogan is still the greatest golfer of all time. It's not really a matter of how many majors a guy can grab...

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[YTCruzer]

@Fullkornsglass - How does one 'grab' a major?

[callmemtv]

@Fullkornsglass tiger all day

[tiger2995]

@Fullkornsglass Sir you are quite correct, Mr Hogan is my Hero, followed closely by Mr Nicklaus, for the same reasons......a champion is far more than a fella with lots of silverware.....take note Mr Woods!

[bigboycat1]

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[TomokoMurakami]

What's a swing pline?

[emncaity]

Oy. Hardly anybody who thinks he has a 1P swing (or who points to an example from the tour as 1P) actually is 1P. So much hooey.

Here's a question for you: If the shoulders point 3-4 ft. outside the ball, but the arm plane is supposed to be dead level with the shoulders at the top, how are you going to hit the ball without redirecting your force downward and out of plane?

Perfect example of moneymaking abstract theory that doesn't actually happen in the real world of competitive golf.

[emncaity]

@emncaity

An ON-plane swing matters, and integrating the body with the arm swing matters. Not swinging overly upright and steep matters. There are no examples of great players who have a truly 1P swing (and yes, I'm including Hogan, when he made a full swing). Because of physique, some people will get closer to it than others; the closer you get to it, the less you have to worry about powerful body rotation breaking down the arm swing; but virtually nobody actually does it.

[nsaminder]

One plane swing is for short losers who can't get women.

Winners stand proud and tall and are coordinated & intelligent enough to use the 2 plane swing.

We can use the 2 plane swing because are hips are so toned and relaxed from all the women we are screwing not to mention the quick side phuks we get from the girlfriends of short guys behind their backs.

[bucko06]

Lol, that is the most 2-planed golf swing I ever did see

[bucko06]

I wish they'd stop calling Ben Hogan the greatest of all time... It's Nicklaus, and soon it will be Woods.

[lilgangstabowwow]

@bucko06 woods is already amongst the greatest ever, but he's got to pick it up, since he hasn't won a title for 19 months.. check that!

[johngolfi]

this has really alot of knowledge regarding the one plane swing, really good

[Golfzoner]

jreddihough, profound evaluation!

[jreddihough]

is this a brit who now lives in oz? seems to go between british and australian .

[starstruck74]

I wish more instruction would include the overhead angle. It would help to see how everything moves together. The split view is cool and I wish more instruction would have both angles, but the third would help create a better concept.

[steckleinjr]

pat and suppo you cats crack me up! this is a very solid, succinct explanation of one plane swing. for you two to dismiss him without specifically pointing out the errors of his way, quite frankly, is weak and cowardly!

[smitusgov]

I have to agree with Nicewave's post. I noticed the EXACT same thing! He swings one-plane during the practice, but more of a 2-plane when he actually hits a ball. I have the opposite problem. I take a practice swing more like a 2-plane, but then swing more of a 1-plane when I hit balls. It's very frustrating. I can shoot a 72 one day and then a 100 the next day and I've played for about 10 years. It's an awful sport. LOL

[naflack]

@pat52010

what is studying moe normans swing going to do?

at least the OPS has a system with teachers who know it and teach it. in other words i dont have to study a swing someone has already done that for me and can thus teach it to me.

[StefNowak]

Can I get a lesson off this guy?

[pat52010]

Please don't listen to this guy. Study Moe Norman's swing...nuff said!!

[teewoods]

@pat52010

stop being a ninny! this guy is giving good advice!

[seppomuppit]

@pat52010 random youtuber says no!

[nicewave1]

All sounds very plausible , but if you stop this video at the top of the backswing ( when you demonstrate the technique ) the arms are way above the shoulder plane, as in the 2plane swing , and then your arms fall straight down , so is this video incorrect , or are you unable to swing as you describe the 1plane action should be.

[emncaity]

So much internal inconsistency in any explanation of 1PS, even by competent teachers (e.g., if your shoulders are pointed 3-4 ft. out past the ball, and your left arm matches your shoulder plane on the backswing, how do you get back to the ball?). And so many examples of alleged 1P swingers who actually aren't.

[emncaity]

The truth is, there is no strict division between the two; it's a false dichotomy that is much better characterized as a continuum of planes where, as you approach a plane that is perpendicular to your spine (flatter), your swing can bear up under more rotational force, while as you get further from that (more upright), you have to rein in that rotational force more and more, until you reach a point where it's just about all lift and no rotation.

[TheBillygolfs50]

IWe can have a 1P position at the top verse a 2 P position. U can be one plane if you swing like Moe Norman. The spine is bi axis. look at where the club disects the body at adress it has to climb. Moe strated with a one plane position from the adress position which even simplified the swing more. One thing here that I see is that any movement off the ball will have an effect on the shoulder tilt. Shoulder tilt is so important for one planers. It's their angle back to impact.

[emncaity]

As for player examples: Hardly any of the great players typically cited as 1Pers actually are. Even Hogan on a full backswing wasn't quite there, although he was (and Olazabal, Immelman, and a very few more) were closer than most--which simply means those guys can go harder with rotation than other guys can. I know I'll get blasted by the loyal following for even bringing this up, but video doesn't lie--and if a true 1P action were the best way to play, you'd see it among all great players.

[emncaity]

This instructor, congenial and competent as he seems, isn't really even that close to 1P at the top (draw a line through shoulder joints v. left arm, and you'll see it). I just don't see the usefulness in creating two such distinct models (1P v. 2P) and such a bright line between them. When I've brought it up before, usu. the response is "well, of course, there aren't any perfect examples, etc."--but if there aren't, if everybody is actually on a continuum of planes, how useful is the theory?

[emncaity]

Still, there are good ideas here--although they've been advanced before. The arm-rotation thing, for instance, has been a staple of Leadbetter's teaching since the mid-'80s, and was (along with improved leg action) probably the most important aspect of Faldo's retooling; Faldo even has a whole section about it in his long book ("Golf: The Winning Formula"). And yes, it does bring the plane down and get the arm swing working more in harmony with the rotational forces (torso, etc.).

[DASH1ful]

@emncaity

I think the best demonstration of the backswing was given by given by Max Faulkner on a Peter Alliss Programme many years ago. He clearly used right shoulder joint rotation to get the lower part of his right arm perpendicular to the target allowing his arm to bend. He then levered his right back to a vertical position. The shoulers and arms will be coplanar for the reasons that I have explained on You Tube. I also provide an insight on how to get back round into the ball.

[roryhie]

@emncaity thanks for your insight, it really open my mind, pls give me more further input on Faldo's retooling; once I had that book The Winning Formula, but I left it somewhere in LA. I agree there is no strong line for 1p 2p, the swing has always been weight shift in 2 pivot, between 2 legs, 2 hips joints etc .. I don;t know since my driver is not as dependable as Hogan. Since junior days I use TW as a blue print but my swing came out like Phil ans Sergio. pls check it out on my name.

[PinehurstGolfer]

The best explaination of one plane I've heard- and I have Jim Hardy's DVDs!

Thanks!

[cockywatchman1976]

Good explanation this!

[granty1954]

I have struggled of late with power going from my game, inconsistent strikes and a few shanks rearing their ugly heads. I tried Stack and Tilt but it played havoc with my knees...

I have to say that your video was easy to understand, so today I went to the range hit a bucket of balls and immediately took it to the course .. Incredibly, my partner and I won a better ball stableford comp with 46 points. I play off a 11 handicap and today I played to 7 !!

Have you any other videos on this swing ?

[eeldergill]

Excellent explanation of the one plane swing.

[dopekr]

thats true about the elbow drop on the downswing... that was causing my swing to be too much from inside to out, causing pushes and hooks.. not to mention a shank sometimes

[qbb01]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I tried this today and you wouldn't believe the power i've been losing through my old swing. I am mainly a hip power player and this really helps to generate the power from them. I hit my drives 30metres past any place i have hit before. I normally shoot 44 over 9 today i shot 38! One hole i used a 4iron to the green is now an 8iron to the green! THIS IS AMAZING THANK YOU!!!!!

[bullsbull3]

Sam's my coach and he knows what he's talking about

[1Spyke23]

Do you have any tips to prevent the action of dropping your shoulder on the DS?

I have been hitting pushes lately and when I look at my swing on video I am doing exactly that -- dropping my club outside my plane on the DS

It makes sense that it is the shoulder.

To drop the shoulder does involve an angle change in the back I believe though.

Perhaps, to keep focused on maintaining the spine angle would work?

[samimalmstrom]

Great job on explaining and demonstrating Jim Hardy's one plane swing concept.

[iluvsoda23]

that swing did not look very 1 planish

mine is better

[golfzonetv]

What is wrong? Audio works.

[redsoxfreakallover]

@golfzonetv hah reading your comment makes me laugh

[digo74]

Audio????????